Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

Weapons??
I knew some weapons in vietnam like MP5, MP5k, M4A1, M40A3, M21, M60E4 or M60E3, M240, M16A1 or M16A2, M14, CAR-15, ,AT4, FIM-92 Stinger for the allied force while for the enemy are AK-47, SKS, AK-74u, Dragonov, RPD, RPK, Makarov, RPG-7 and others soviet weapons i dunno.

Others.. Mines, Bomb Gas

the M4A1 and the M134 minigun are not on the weapons page but are unmistakabley included

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops Bearded Hoplite 12:03, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

One thing, it's impossible for the M4A1 to appear in Black Ops, at least as far as Vietnam is concerned. So... from what I've been able to tell, what looks like an M4A1 is a CAR-15. Another AR-15 (M16) variant.

Oorah! 12:31, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

34A
Whatching the second trailer, directly after the space race slide there is a picture of a rifle and the lettering 34A. Operation 34A was "a highly-classified U.S. program of covert actions against the Democratic Republic of Vietnam (DRV or North Vietnam), consisting of agent team insertions, aerial reconnaissance missions and naval sabotage operations. Though begun in 1961 by the Central Intelligence Agency, in 1964 the program was transferred to the Military Assistance Command, Vietnam Studies and Observations Group (SOG) during Operation Parasol/Switchback. The SOG was the cover name for a multi-service unconventional warfare task force under the direct guidance and control of the Pentagon." To quote wikipedia page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_34A this obviously is part of plot and afirmes the player will take part in those missions.
 * highly likely considering the locations and time placement. bit speculative however, i mean it is just 2numbers and a letter. but if it does have relevance you are def on to something. guess we'll just have to wait eh --Ashwilso12 20:41, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

M16?
Jarhead68 20:59, May 24, 2010 (UTC) When you look at the character who has the M1911 that says "sally", on his back, there are two AR-15 platforms. The one on the right is a CAR-15 or XM177E2, you can tell by the extended flash suppresor, while so the one on his right side is what I belive to be an M-16, you can tell this by the long skiny barrel, the only other weapon that looks moderately like that is the M4, and that wasn't even in existance until the late 90s. So, either m16 will return, this will have parts set in the 90s, or the guys at treyarch messed up.Jarhead68 20:59, May 24, 2010 (UTC)

Actually......the M16 has been around since the 1960's so the guys at Treyarch did not mess up. 23:17, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think he's referring to the M4. Darkman 4 23:25, May 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yo, i think it is M16A1 or M16A2 for sure. The picture maybe is a M4 or CAR-15 or other weapon like that. Blaziken8942 06:46, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

The "There is a rumor that Activision may make user pay to play online" or what ever it is, should be removed from trivia. It's just a rumor that EVERY! CoD fan knows about.  Conqueror of  all Zombies  Ta lk  00:18, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Could've made a new section. But isn't it a little hypocritical to tell all users who edit the page not to include rumours, and then go and add ones yourselves? F Brushfire 12:25, May 26, 2010 (UTC) It's most likely a CAR-15 since it has a shorter barrel than the M16 and, like they said, the M4 wasn't available 'till the 90's. 135twilight 22:48, May 27, 2010 (UTC)135twilight
 * ^ hahaa yes! --Ashwilso12 20:42, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Per the guy above, it is a CAR-15. 22:47, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Story
Has anyone noticed that the trailer strongly hints some sort consiricy theory? I'd add it myself but the page is locked down. General Geers 10:54, May 26, 2010 (UTC)

Well, the idea is that you are some type of spy, because you are doing observation work in the Urals, but then again, you are a front line soldier for some of the Viet Nam part. And then again, the torture instruments in the trailer are suspicious. I do believe it is geared around cold war conspiracies, sorta like if you search GKNOVA6 in Google groups, you get all sorts of pages related to JFK Assassination conspiracies. Also, people add things you have noticed about the main player. Agreon 23:19, May 26, 2010 (UTC)Agreon

The character seams to be a lefty. When your Sergent or whoever that is throws the SPAS-12 at you, it is caught like you are a leftie shooter. Just an observation. The guns are held like they are for a right handed though. Agreon 23:19, May 26, 2010 (UTC)Agreon

Well, I'm right handed and I catch with my left hand, so I don't think that him catching with his left hand and holding his gun like a right handed person is very signifigant. I think you may be right about the conspiracy theory though. General SkullRod  10:22, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

I agree with SkullRod, I think he caught it with his left because of the way it flew at him. Just a fluke. General Geers 10:58, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, if you note, it looks as if the guy that threw it to you was holding it himself, meaning he would be holding the grip in his right hand. That means, when he throws it, the grip is lined up with your left hand. Thus, there's really no other way to catch it.

But I agree, there seems to be a bit more to the story than the typical Vietnam and other places stuff. I mean, Treyarch probably isn't making a bunch of random missions placed throughout different countries, at least, I hope not. Surely there's some interrelating theme between them all (and don't call me Shirley).

Oorah! 15:04, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

^^Rumored on G4 that the missions will be set in Cold War, WWII, Vietnam, and other major battles. Hope this is NOT the case. KillerKing17 22:58, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well it's been confirmed some missions will be in Vietnam and in Russia. Not sure what they mean about WWII though. I think Vietnam will be the beginning of the game, and the rest will be missions Russia or elsewhere (ala MW2). PhantBat 14:52, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Trailer music
Just thought I'd let you all know, it's: "And your world will burn" by Cliff Lin.

Sorry if this isn't uncommon news. 69.254.53.223 23:28, May 27, 2010 (UTC)

Isn't uncommon? Haha, that's fine, nice find. General SkullRod  02:11, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah thanks. Do you know what the COD5 trailer song is? General Geers 06:55, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Which trailer? I might be able to find the song. By the way, this is the 69.254 guy. I just logged on because I was lazy. Iwalkalone332 12:50, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

The longer one that has "No Rules" No Fear" "No Mercy" "Only Chaos". Sorry not sure about the specific type. General Geers 01:48, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

First Look event
http://forums.xbox.com/32744858/ShowPost.aspx one of the lads who were invited on the CoD:BO first look thing, they arent allowed to post anything about it utill 12 pm est but this cheeky chappy did. tbf there isnt anything here which we dont know, maybe except some more details about certain SP levels. at the first look event they only played 2 single player levels, no Mp. bah --Ashwilso12 13:47, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

Black Ops World trailer Revealer: SPAS-12 special ammo
Hello, my name is Tom_LV69

I wanted to talk about the world trailer of the Black Ops game, here is a point i want to make.

Link to the world Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFC61XTjtSI

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The world premire trailer revealed a bit about the SPAS-12 shotgun.

Follow the world trailer link above to YouTube and watch the video and pause it at 1:04 minutes.

If you look closey, it looks as if the SPAS-12 is firing incindary or "Dragon's-Breath" shotgun rounds, could this be true??

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Tom_LV69

Tom LV69 19:31, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is firing Dragons Breath. Darkman 4 19:33, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, we already have a page on it see: Dragons Breath. Doltensig.jpeg 19:35, May 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes it is, in fact I reported this some time ago. Check back on the last archive. 19:34, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is similar to the Left 4 Dead 2 Incenary Rounds but why only SPAS-12 can use while other can't? This suck when can't use on other weapon. Blaziken8942 06:50, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * When did we say that? Doltensig.jpeg 22:48, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Treyarch Developer Interview

 * New gametrailers interview with some high ranking big wig at treyarch. http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-call-of/100689 http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-2010-call-of/100687 pretty common stuff but he says the guy with the tattoos' name is woods. we will see him in various parts of his military career (in part 2). i seriously bet you play as a character, time progresses and your previous character is now the antagonist, so you have to kill youself. --Ashwilso12 20:08, May 28, 2010 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/user/machinima#p/c/6656FE6D5A4D6973/4/WHvTPiqWbKs

Call of Duty: Black Ops
The page needs updating as IGN have confirmed that the PC version of Black Ops witll have dedicated servers.

Actually the Treyarch developer said it himself in an interview.

Two in depth looks at both of the trailers

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq3Odln-0DQ&feature=fvhl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292tCSCvFQY&feature=channel

Citation for PC Servers

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=246438

Missions
Could someone add "Slaughter House " in the Missions? M901 (TALK) 23:59, May 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Darkman 4 00:17, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Found more mission info: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/28/call-of-duty-black-ops-preview-and-screenshots/
 * General Geers 10:57, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Found more mission info: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/05/28/call-of-duty-black-ops-preview-and-screenshots/
 * General Geers 10:57, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * General Geers 10:57, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

New screenshots
As above:

http://gallery.thatvideogameblog.com/call-of-duty-black-ops/

Morihaus 05:56, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Those are all from the trailers. Nothing new except the angle of the shot. Sorry. General Geers 07:38, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Weapon(?)
if you look at 0:17 in the debut trailer there is a report on some sort of gas and a variant of tabun. As far as I've figured it says:


 * unkown* to be underway involving varaints of Tabun,


 * unknown* and an unknown gas of *pothly(?)* far greater potential.

And then it goes off screen. Also you can see a sniper rifle in the background at 0:16.
 * unknown* every member of the S.O.G train in the field.

OK, found full message: The White House Washington Dispatched N.S.C. Jul 24 3:00 PM '61

Top Secret

July 21, 1961 Memorandum For: Director, --- <--JCOS?

SUBJECT: Transmissions from a suspected numbers station near the --- embassy containing alarming and cryptic references

Research appears to be underway involving variants of [Tabun, Sarin, Soman] and an unknown gas of possibly far greater potential for devastation. Every member of the S.O.G. team in the field should be briefed. Yesterday, a new transmission involving [Plutonium and Uranium] was also intercepted but was lost before the transmission completed. All foreign agents listening to numbers stations should be vigilant to these keywords. Recent chatter has reached a fever pitch.

CIA operatives have been assigned to the program, and additional support is requested. Have all reports forwarded to the White House, and present an interim review of the situation no later than July 31, 1961.

/S/ John F. Kennedy

{blacked out signatures}

If anyone has an image enchancer try and work it out and post it here. General Geers 09:58, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Dedicated Servers Confirmed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4N2OPwOwbyo&playnext_from=TL&videos=iq-i_DG5aQA&feature=sub

Right at the end, Treyarch man says, "And yes, the PC version will have dedicated servers" -  10:32, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

I loved the way the guy said that too. Like, with a little smile towards IW. 22:38, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

co-op,zombies?
treyarch states that the coop mode will be a different story to campaign, does this hint at a zombie mode? can someone back me up with the actual quote?

86.31.244.243 10:34, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

According to what I've read. There's an entirely different campaign for co-op. General Geers 10:59, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it may be zombies. 22:41, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Proofread what you write
"Rumors that Activision is planning on charging a fee for the multiplayer use of Call of Duty: Black Ops have popped up, cuaing some panic amogst fans."

Yeah, I don't think "cuaing" and "amogst" are words. Anyway, not only this this just a rumour that you admins tell the members not to put on the page all the time, but it's also a rumour that is probably bs as it came up when MW2 came to be released. Shouldn't even be on the page, truthful or not. F Brushfire 13:55, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Charging for gameplay?
Can you confirm this? Like any links from IGN or Xbox or something? This has been a rumor for a lot of upcoming games, ever since WaW, and typically it's people starting it who do not like the Game/Company/Title. I've heard a lot of rumors from multiple sources on PS3 charging their gameplay, but nothing on CoD:BO being charged indvitdually. I would consider this a rumor and take it off the article unless evidence can be given.

I don't like Activision, but I don't think their that evil to where they'll charge the gamers, that's just idiotic on their part.<3 PFC.Stockholm 15:20, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

'''Just read above, sorry for the double post on the same topic, I just skimmed over your post before I posted this, and figured it was on proofreading, not the charging. PFC.Stockholm 15:21, May 29, 2010 (UTC)'''

Final Box Art
Found this on Xbox Live Marketplace heres link http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/media/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80241560855/?p=1&of=0&bt=0&sb=1 it should be the first thing you see besides perhaps a log in -Absorr&#124;Wikia is the best...ia 17:26, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, you can also see the box art at the end of the trailer. 18:22, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

AK-74?
Is the AK-74 going to be in the game? AK-47's magazine is curved more like a circle, and AK-74's isn't, like this one in the picture from the Uncut Reveal Traielr.

Either an AK-74 or a AK-47 with a special magazine/ammo. Slowrider7 17:48, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like an AK-74 with a special Magazine. -- CodExpert 17:50, May 29, 2010 (UTC)


 * I mentioned this a while ago. I'm guessing the art team got messed up and made the "ak-47" an "ak-74". That's happened in other games, such as Rainbow Six Vegas. For now, the page will continue to say "AK-47" unless in-game footage of the Create-a-Class screen calls it otherwise. Darkman 4 18:18, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ask the ATEFI, I'm sure they can lecture you on it. For all I care, it's a Kalishnakov, It's a primere trailer, and the game isn't finished yet, so that may be a beta gun, that just works until they program a more detailed weapon. <_< PFC.Stockholm 20:29, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * nah, that's pretty detailed. Its very likely to be a final model. Darkman 4 01:28, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ask the ATEFI, I'm sure they can lecture you on it. For all I care, it's a Kalishnakov, It's a primere trailer, and the game isn't finished yet, so that may be a beta gun, that just works until they program a more detailed weapon. <_< PFC.Stockholm 20:29, May 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * nah, that's pretty detailed. Its very likely to be a final model. Darkman 4 01:28, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm, it's hard to say on a game, but as Darkman said, it will stay AK-47. 22:43, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

I cant wait to see what it looks like :D  Gman 111  23:36, May 29, 2010 (UTC)

Character/Roles
I think you'll be apart of some BA Team. Kinda like your squad could be like everyone is as skilled as Rambo.Or you could be with some kind of Spec Ops team. Probably gonna be in Vietnam war or Cold War or even Desert Storm. I dunno post if you have ideas.

Sign your posts please.nlm gr  22:39, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Is any admin going to add Woods as one of the Characters? Just sayin Qw3rty! 23:27, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Done. Darkman 4 23:30, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yay Qw3rty! 23:32, May 30, 2010 (UTC)

Quote at the top
I believe the quote at the top of the page is incorrect. I'm pretty sure the correct quote is "A lie is a lie." Of the 2 trailers released so far, I've never heard "Every war is a lie" said once.

It's "Every war is a lie". I think why it says that is the controversy about the Vietnam War and the person who said that opposes wars(Vietnam War). Talk 00:34, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Erhm ,it's so obvious he said "A lie is a lie". Really he doesn't say every war is a lie.

Ever121 07:39, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Playable Characters
http://www.ausgamers.com/features/read/2906900

apparently u play as two different people mason and hudson. and reznov is returning.

There's a pic of the M60 in that link. Please add! Chief z 06:40, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * But it's on the helicopter, that doesn't mean it will be able to be used normally... 09:47, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * But it does appear in the game. We could note that it's in a mounted form. Chief z 12:44, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * What do you guys think about the possibility of your character leading the squad GenCain sig.jpg T  C  E   B 12:23, May 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes! We have a voice!


 * "Yeah, it's going to be four-player online stand-alone - a unique experience to the single-player. We're also supporting two-player split-screen, but we can't really talk about it." Zombies? Doltensig.jpeg 12:30, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, Josh also said that players would like the co-op mode. So it must be zombies. 22:50, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Customizable Outfits?
Can someone tell me the link where it says player's appearances will be customizable? Thanksnlm gr  18:51, May 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * http://prestigegamerz.com/forum.html?func=view&catid=152&id=90839 Imrlybord7 03:43, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

Reznov = General
Link

This isn't cofirmed, but remember the high-ranking official-looking-guy in the trailer that looked similar to Reznov? Just throwing that out there...  Maj.Gage  Talk. 20:53, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Reznov's back!
It's been confirmed! I ws reading on a website and Josh said the Reznov would be back. Rampage...ENEMY AC-130 ABOVE... 23:08, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Vehicles
I hope there will be vehicles on the regular disc because the last time there wasn't I had a FREAKIN' ARM SEIZURE! I want them on the disc not a map pack! InFeCtEd32 23:21, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

They put it in with the Map Pack because of two reasons. One, for you to pay them more money. And two, they couldn't fit it with the game disc.  M901   [Wanna Talk?]  00:19, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * I thought there were vehicles in like two of the default WaW maps? Darkman 4 02:49, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, Roundhouse, Outskirts, Seelow and Downfall have tanks to drive.  09:59, June 1, 2010 (UTC)

SR -71 Blackbird ,AUG
if im correct the blackbird will make an appearence

the AUG will make an return, i hope the black bird is available in campaign

AND I WANT CO-OP campaign, maybe a countinuation of NAzi zombies

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Yes your right and yes there will be zombies. You will be able to pilot the Blackbird in the mission WMD. But we already knew all this. Please check if the information your providing is already there.

General Geers 01:20, June 1, 2010 (UTC)