Forum:Location of maps revision

Hi, it's Tigernose. Recently, I have spotted that on the articles for maps on Call of Duty 4 (and possibly on maps of other games), the locations are estimates and are more or less factually incorrect. Here's a list of maps, description and their location stated in the description or in single player:

* Ambush - Large desert town. [Saudi Arabia (unnamed country in game)] * Backlot - Medium sized construction site and town. [Saudi Arabia] * Bloc - Large Ukrainian apartment bloc very close to Chernobyl. [Pripyat, Ukraine] * Broadcast - Fairly Large television broadcast center. (part of the Variety Map Pack) [Saudi Arabia] * Bog - Small desert bog. [Saudi Arabia] * Chinatown (Carentan) - Large Town. Windows/buildings everywhere. [San Franciso, USA] * Countdown - Open launch pad. Huge sight lines and dangerous maneuvering. [Altai Mountains, Russia] * Crash - Downed Sea Knight in a desert town. [Iraq (unnamed country in game)] * Creek - Big map of the great outdoors around a creek. [Altai Mountains, Russia] * Crossfire - Small desert town. Intense interior fighting and strong firefights. [Saudi Arabia] * District - Large urban town with a market in the middle. [Saudi Arabia possibly, Middle East definetly] * Downpour - Big rainy Russian farm. [Russia] * Killhouse - Small SAS training facility. [Credenhill, UK] * Overgrown - Large overgrown rural Russian area. [Russia] * Pipeline - Russian trainyard. [Russia] * Shipment - Tiny Russian shipyard. Fast paced action with no hiding. [Russia] * Showdown - Small desert arena. [Saudi Arabia] * Strike - Large urban desert town. [Saudi Arabia possibly, Middle East definetly] * Vacant - Deserted Russian office. Intense interior fighting. [Russia] * Wet Work - Medium-large cargo ship. [Bering Strait] * Winter Crash - Crash at night with snow and a Christmas tree in the middle of the map [Iraq]

Now, most of these locations have been gathered by looking at the satellite images in the cutscenes before their single player counterparts, and the rest of the locations are either stated in the map description (also in game) or the level location in single player.

However, if you look at the articles of these maps, you can see that a lot of the Russian maps have been claimed to be located somewhere else. There are many reasons for this:
 * Landmarks in the map bear resemblence or are identical to a single player location (i.e. Downpour and Overgrown look like the Azerbaijan missions. Shipment and Vacant look like the Pripyat missions.)
 * Infinity Ward seem to state that any map in a CIS country is "Russian". The previous point can disprove that they are in Russia.

We need to really sort this out. My main concern was in Shipment, where on the talk page, there is a discussion on where it is. In game, you can see that there is a river (Pripyat has a river and is the name of a river), landmarks of Pripyat, Arabic writing and the game description states it is in Russia.

You'll see on the talk page there are many theories of the location, but we need to agree here and now for a solution that should apply to all maps with an identity crisis.

Also, feel free to add maps onto the list from other CoD games, although I didn't find many unidentified maps since they all seem to match to a singleplayer mission. But if you are going to add them, leave to spaces so "nowiki" applies to the text.

So any ideas on how we should solve this issue? Should we follow the game description, use landmarks or something else? Maybe even contact IW and Treyarch? I dunno, but it needs to get sorted otherwise we're posting unconfirmed and incorrect information on our articles.

Thanks for reading, -- Tigernose    Chat  •  Edits  19:57, February 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * Oh yeah, the Arabian maps that have USMC vs OpFor also have an identity crisis. The Middle Eastern country the war takes place in was never named, however using the satellite images, some users have accurately used real-life cities and countries to pinpoint their location. Is this right? -- Tigernose  Throwing_knife.png  Chat  •  Edits  19:57, February 12, 2010 (UTC)