Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

Map markings in multiplayer levels?
I looked over the multiplayer teaser again just a few minutes ago and notice some grid markings on the map (B2, B3, C3) - this leads me to believe that this could be used to call out certain parts of the map to teammates. If I'm not the only one seeing this, perhaps that should be added to the multiplayer section. TheAxis.42 10:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

References?
Who editted the page to make the references be all over, can somebody fix this, because I sure don't know how to. XDEATHMAN4aP90x 20:08, August 22, 2010 (UTC)xDEATHMAN4aP90x

Levels in Vietnam
In the Vietnam article, it states that there are 3 confirmed missions set in Vietnam. This article says that we know of only 4 missions so far, and WMD is in Siberia, and Payback is in Laos. Is this a mistake, then? SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 01:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a mistake on our part. I'll fix it. Darkman 4 03:53, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, WMD is in The Ural Mountains in Russia, not Siberia. 08:44, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

More info from GamesCom
During the first preview of Black Ops, viewers noticed that the normal yellow star marker wasn't on. This time, Treyarch have removed it from Black Ops. Olin believes that there still will be on-screen instructions in the game but you will have to clear out the area or follow your group to complete a task. 07:48, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's just going to be words or a phrase with a dot underneath that will help you,no stars.Poop copter 16:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Galil ARM Proof (with dedication to Darkman 4 )


Confirmed? For me it's obvious:D Morihaus 08:30, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Added RGD-33 Proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGD-33_grenade Russian soldier is carrying 2 RGD-33 grenades. Confirmed? About shotgun: idk which model is it but it's similar to Bekas M more than to Mossberg 500 and so. (forend shape is a key to recognize shotgun) http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh46-e.htm Morihaus 08:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like a Galil to me, but I'd wait or a clearer image. . 10:31, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it does look like a Galil now. 10:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Nicely done. As for the Shotgun, I agree, especially as it makes more sense for a Russian shotgun to be in the hands of a Russian. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 01:47, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

And what ? Russians with Tavors and FN FALs in MW2, Romanian WASR-2 in BO.... Just because russians are holding it doesnt mean its russian. Oh, and shotgun seems like China Lake Gl to me.

Meh, fair enough. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 13:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ammo Counter
Maybe it should be pointed out that the Ammo Counter in Multiplayer Teaser uses numbers for ammo in the magazine also, not small lines like CoD4, WaW and MW2. BRX 10:56, August 19, 2010 (UTC)BRX

Nice Catch! That will make things a bit easier when playing now. 16:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Bling?
Do we know if bling is returningDarth smeg02 21:46, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * it looks like it will, as "AUG multiple attachments" can be found in the WMD E3 video and I think "multiple attachments" appears in the MP trailer. Darkman 4 21:54, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

ThanksDarth smeg02 22:01, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Black Ops Multiplayer info
Posted by NateRios430 on Jun 13, 2010 in Rumours | 91 commentsAs all of our readers know, one of the most highly anticipated features in the upcoming Treyarch title, Call of Duty: Black Ops, is the Multiplayer aspect of the game. To date, very little information has been released about the game’s multiplayer features and gamers have been anxiously awaiting news. We may, and I repeat, we may have found that long-awaited update.

WoodysGamertag, one of the hosts of Painkiller Already, a popular gaming podcast focusing on first-person-shooter titles, received an insider tip about Black Ops’ multiplayer mode. WoodysGamertag said that while he can not vouch completely for his sources credibility, he says his source “…is an industry insider. I was skeptical until we traded emails. It’s very difficult to spoof your domain name.”

So, without further ado, here is the intel that he received…

Perks

 * Players may chose two perks and based on those choices, a third perk is chosen for you.
 * Commando has been removed.
 * One Man Army has been removed.
 * Scavenger no longer replenishes equipment (i.e. claymores, C4, etc).
 * Cold Blooded and Juggernaut are part of an armor system that the player wears.

Killstreaks

 * At this point, the highest killstreak reward is for 15 kills
 * Killstreak rewards will not count towards your next killstreak. For example: if you receive a 5-killstreak reward, the kills gained by that killstreak will not move you towards your next killstreak reward. Killstreak rewards may only be earned through your main weapons.
 * Pavelow will return as a killstreak, although it has a feature unique to Black Ops.
 * UAV will return as a killstreak.
 * In addition to the Pavelow, there will be two other types of helicopters earned as killstreaks.
 * There is no Emergency Airdrop, but there is a Care Package killstreak reward.
 * The SR-71 Blackbird will be available as a killstreak reward.
 * Tactical Nuke will not be returning.

Weapons

 * The FAMAS will return, but not in a 3-round burst firing capacity. It will be fully automatic.
 * There will be no gun from the M4 family.
 * The M16 will return, still as a high-powered, high-accuracy weapon.
 * The tactical knife is no longer available, while a new knife will be available in it’s place: the ballistic knife. A ballistic knife has a detachable, spring-loaded blade designed to be fired a distance of approx. 6 meters at a rate of 39 MPH (63 km/h).
 * The claymore is classified as equipment, thus the Scavenger perk will not replenish it.
 * Grenades are not classified as equipment and will be replenished by Scavenger.

New, confirmed guns include:
Additionally, players will be able to bypass the Crouch position and go directly from Sprint to Prone. In effect, players will be able to sprint and drop flat onto their belly without having to crouch first.
 * SIG commando – Assault Rifle
 * RPK – Light Machine Gun
 * Skorpion – Submachine Gun
 * PSG1 – Semi-auto Sniper Rifle
 * MAC11 – Machine Pistol

That is all of the intelligence that we have so far, and of course it must be taken with a grain of salt. Modern Warfare 2 gamers can remember back to a similar article being posted months before the game’s November release chock-full of misinformation.

Time will tell if this news is true, but with E3 less than 24 hours away, be certain to check out our live-blog for continuing updates throughout the entire E3 expo. There is sure to be plenty of great gaming news and, of course, the highly-anticipated Black Ops info!
 * uh, thanks for the copy and paste? Darkman 4 03:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry dude, this has been posted on the wiki, like 4 time already, we all know who Woodysgamertag is. Everyone knows OMA and Commando will not be returning. Ya came on it late. Maj. Boner 04:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

weapons
assult rifle

ar-15

l85

sniper

l96aw

smg

mini uzi

mp5

grenade

rgd-33

shotgun

morihus

That has to be the most poorly designed and incompltete list I have seen yet. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 02:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't get the point of this either. Darkman 4 03:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^^^ Agreed. Maj. Boner 04:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

^^why sb did use my name(mispelled wrong :/)btw. add rgd-33 and Galil ARM. Morihaus 06:01, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * wow, this was pointless, incorrect, and just dumb. cant posts like this be erased? Alex dlc 12:49, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, but they can't be deleted. 12:51, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * These Weapons I found looking on bos sitesCoD1 Weapon PPSh.pngSignatureSpecialOpsGenralMinigun.pngRaygunprofile.png 18:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

KS-23 and Makarov pistol?
One of the summaries from today's press at Gamescom says that there's going to be a KS-23 shotgun and Makarov pistol in the game. Should we add those to our weapons page, or wait until we have a few screenshots? Darkman 4 03:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'd wait until we get some screenshots. Then again, we have the G11 and China Lake GL on the page. (BTW, you misspelled "add" like "ass." :P) Chief z 04:35, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Their are screenshots of russian soldiers with a unidentified pump action shotgun with a wood, curved stock. It would make sense because russia has never had a offical Russian shotgun in a cod game, always some american shotty. Maj. Boner 04:45, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Leaked SP gameplay:D
http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1617

crappy video,but some new info is present:

04;16 - shotgun icon - KS-23 04:28 - AK-47 icon 04:41 - C4 or Semtex in "C4 mode" 11:11 - FP View of AK47:D 11:49 - Galil ARM :D Eh...Confirmed? 12:03 - KS-23 Notice foresight and overall size. 12:40 - icon of LMG with bipod : RP-46(PK ancestor) Morihaus 06:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the shotgun icon at the start is the SPAS-12. Also, the AK looks way better than the screenshots made it out to be. Darkman 4 06:52, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

About SPAS: It looks like he picked this shotgun and later used it. He didn't pick any shotguns until his shotty appeared:d In conclusion he picked KS-23.:D btw. confirm RP-46, IMI Galil ARM, KS-23 and RGD-33 Handgrenade. Morihaus 07:08, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not adding the RP-46 because the footage is a bit too grainy to make out what it is, but if there is higher quality footage showing it, then it'll be put up. The RGD-33 isn't being added yet because there have been multiple cases of items appearing on a character model but not actually being used in-game (like how the MW2 Ghillie Suit model has a M1911, but it is never used). Darkman 4 07:20, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed:D Morihaus 08:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

So the Galil is confirmed, Ak has a better skin, some kind of RPK-type machine gun, and 15 mintues to drule at! Maj. Boner 14:30, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it just me or do I keep seeing the soldier with the DG-2 from the Der Riese promo picture in the background at some point? 11:47, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * i see it too, its just a watermark added for the callofdutyzombies site Alex dlc 14:16, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * check out this article that reviews some stuff but also gives a new look at the previously mentioned human shield and others, in single player http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/8/19/gamescom_2010_explosive_call_of/
 * check out this article that reviews some stuff but also gives a new look at the previously mentioned human shield and others, in single player http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/8/19/gamescom_2010_explosive_call_of/


 * A better quality version is available here, though it only shows part of the screen. --Sentinel 101 17:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, nevermind. Another user already posted it below, but I hadn't seen that before. --Sentinel 101 17:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Callsigns
We should put in MP that something like callsigns (big pic, small emblem) appears in Black Ops. BRX 09:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)BRX

unknown shotgun
im sure you have all seen the image with the shotgun on the guys back. its clearly a pump action shotgun with a wooden stock, but which one? i think its probably one of these 5: mossberg 500, winchester 1200, franchi 720, bekas m12, or remington 870. what do you guys think? Alex dlc 12:53, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The winchester 1200 doesnt look like that so it cant.Sgt Sprinkles 13:22, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

nevermind guys, its the KS-23 for sure! i think it can now be added to the weapons list Alex dlc 13:44, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Easter Egg weapons?
Do you guys think Easter Egg weapons like the Ray Gun from CoD5 will be present in Call of duty Black Ops? Poop copter 14:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

That would be cool, but also brings up another question. How do people find easter eggs like that? How could someone just jump into those puddles and stay long enough to get the ray gun? How could he know? 14:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how they find it,but you can always search youtube! lol Poop copter 14:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Live Interview was EPIC FAIL...
^I've just seen this crappy interview with Olin and Hank and it was booooring as hell....Maybe part with 25 killstreak : Chuck Norris Invasion was funny...A bit....Morihaus 16:36, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're going to dodge every MP question you ask until September 1st, and no one seems to care about the campaign, so what did you expect? 16:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * they are telling us stuff we already know
 * they are telling us stuff we already know

Yeh they said that there mp trailer on Sep 1st will make people say, "Holy Shi*" Must be sommething big??? 20:38, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

''I hope it's something big. Maybe some Zombies?IIID Empire, 14:16, Aug.20,10''

Selective Fire Weapons
In the various teasers, trailers and playthroughts that have been released, there have been a few weapons shown that fire fully automatically in Black Ops, but in other titles had semi or burst fire capabilites. I wonder if in create a class 2.0 there will be an option to change the fire mode on certian weapons.

(JayPeezey 04:22, August 21, 2010 (UTC))


 * Before CoD 3, on the PC you could do that by hitting the M button. YuriKaslov 04:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I miss the those selective fire days. Now it would actually be useful to have the option. --LOST-The Cartographer 07:01, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Leak in HD!!!!!xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKtnJkjxhog&feature=player_embedded

03:10-11 - KS-23 icon.

03:00 - unknown revolver(?!!!!!) with silencer(python with silencer??:D) Link: Real life Python with silencer

http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/357colt-python.jpg

but maybe it's Nagant M1895 with suppressor attached(it was used in RL by KGB)

04:07-08 - unknown LMG with bipod(RPD/PKM/RPK?[rather this]))

09:00 - ger.Armbrust Varabler Zoom - eng.Crossbow with variable zoom.(+icon) - Variable Zoom as attachment?

09:38 - Makarov icon and model

09:45 - RPK(without 74:D)icon

10:33 -ballistic knife in action(+later replenish of it)

btw. so-called RP-46 is just blurred RPK.:D Morihaus 15:11, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Has anyone noticed Weaver's wearing an eyepatch now?--Sentinel 101 17:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I noticed it too:P. Maybe they want to add him "veteran level kick-ass" look?xD

EDIT:Important!!!! I've also noticed sth in the "unknown revolver/handgun thing with silencer"...It's morphing from pistol to pistol w/ silencer and then to revolver(with silencer) that looks more like single-action ol' colt rather than double-action(notice grip length and shape)..really, really weird...:? Morihaus 17:57, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ability to fight while gibbed.
In one of the videos of the Treyarch community, they show that soldiers could still fight while "missing an arm". Some of the Treyarch community were showing how people could reload a handgun with one hand. Anyone else think that might be a feature? YuriKaslov 20:51, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It would be really stupid, and unrealistic if it where a feature. If you're missing an arm you would quickly start bleeding to death, and plus there would be the shock too. MacMillan said it best "Nice Shot. I think you blew off his arm. Shock and blood loss will do the rest." 21:02, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Yuri has a point. However who's to say you lose an arm? all you need is a broken, or mangled one to cause you to use one arm in combat. Maybe at some point your arm is severely wounded, and your only choice is to fight with one hand? It's seems highly probable to me. --LOST-The Cartographer 21:07, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it'd be like how Zakhaev got his arm torn off anyway. It's very easy to gib people in WaW, so why not? YuriKaslov 21:10, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It said "missing an arm" so i thought it'd be more like how Zakhaev lost his arm, if the character is using one arm because it was injured then that would make more sense. 21:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

^ "missing an arm" could also mean that soldier simply cannot use his second arm at the moment of reloading the pistol (carrying sth etc.)not literally "missing an arm":D Morihaus 21:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

General, Zakhaev was shot by a speeding 50 cal bullet that goes by faster then the speed of sound, then was shot in the body or head, then the energy just TORE open his arm and the wind and hitting the ground helped it come off, Yeah, He'd be pretty shocked, but he lived, plus, he was in Chernobyl, where a nucleur disaster went off, with radition, So, you gotta think, with all THOSE factors, I'd like my arm be torn off just by a M40 or AMW, Imran was tough, he got over it, and it is possible, I mean, I'd love that, I mean, who doesn't love the armless dude that can put a whole mag in his gun in less then 30 secs? i'd take me around 2 hours to reload with one hand, but it very possible, there are soldiers who got a arm or leg blown off, and just pull out a pistol and just shoot, think of Last stand or Second chance, you can be shot in the neck ,and somewhat survive. Specialist Grundy 22:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Jut because it happens in a game doesn't mean it's the same in real life Grundy. You do know that even if you were hit in the arm or the leg with a .50 cal round you'd still likely die from the kinetic energy wave smashing into the rest of your body. --LOST-The Cartographer 00:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe theres a part in the campaign where the player loosses an arm and they have to fihgt with the other? Hunter Steven 01:41, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

WA2000 confirmed?
http://callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=263014&sid=b07dcce5b450dcb6e095cc4e1c22dc6f#

Makarov, KS-23 are already on the list because of it(and the're confirmed). Why not to add WA2000?

Also this "only mods can edit BO article rule" is pretty annoying for me. I want to add some confirmed and legit news but I can't and mods don't appear frequently:/ Said.:P Morihaus 21:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Save it, Keep it till it is comfirmed or in the game, I mean, we do not want a 'nam mw2, the one thing that made mw2 suck, is that we knew everything 'bout it. Specialist Grundy 22:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

No, we haven't seen it in gameplay, so it doesn't go in the article. 02:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Clan tags on the guns?
If you notice the M16 (First gun on the trailer) and you look at the back of it, theres clan tags, the same as the owner, which his name is seen when he kills someone, Does this mean we get to really MAKE our own gun? Making tags,scopes and R dots? And perhaps camo? I mean,Do we get to go rambo all out? Clan tags on our buttstocks, custom bullets, scopes, and I think it was comfirm that cold blooded and Juggernaut are like a suit, Meaning this will be bad-ass already? Specialist Grundy 22:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where have you been for the past few weeks? This has been known for a long time, it's a part of Create a Class 2.0 Sgt.Frank Woods 22:56, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Besides, that ain't M16, but Commando. BRX 23:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)BRX


 * We got this about 2 weeks ago. 02:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Commando will appear a lot
I have found the Commando will appear a lot in the story. I think this becuase in 1966 the army bought 2,815 Commandos, and it was used a lot by SOG. Maj. Boner 01:35, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Umm okay? --LOST-The Cartographer 20:33, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

News
The first entry under the news section states The twitter update really stated the Nazi maps would be included in Hardened and Prestige editions of the game. It doesn't guarantee Zombie co-op though it does suggest it. I believe this should be changed for clarity in case Activision is trying to mislead us. Kingartie 21:04, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Nazi Zombies has been confirmed to be in Black Ops, following a Twitter update from jd_2020. http://twitter.com/jd_2020"

Old news, buddy. Nice try though.IIID Empire 14:07, Aug.22,10

enough with the nazi zombies thing!! the zombies were only nazis because WAW was in WW2. not all zombies are nazis, black ops can have zombies but they dont have to be nazi. Alex dlc 13:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

shotgun
How come the ks23 shotgun has been deleted because it is that shotgun 82.1.234.136 00:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

shotgun
How come the ks23 shotgun has been deleted because it is that shotgun 82.1.234.136 00:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Gameplay
In the leaked gameplay of WMD i saw a npc use the ballistic knife and I you can choose the crossbow fire mode during battle because he goes from regular bolt to explosive.Darth smeg02 02:44, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Crossbow
In the leaked WMD footage when the person fires the crossbow the ammo counter counts down as if all the arrows are in one magazine.( when the person shoots the counter goes from 20 to 19)Hunter Steven 05:53, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Why Galil ARM and KS-23 were deleted? By who? ~They were confirmed -_- ...Morihaus 08:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cause until Black Ops is released, we aren't going to make any speculated articles. Mainly when it comes to weapons, as the weapon name might change in game, etc. 12:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * but it has been confirmed to be called KS-23 in the game. theres a screenshot of it and you can pick it up. this is not speculation, its 100% proof. http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/images/weapons/shotguns/ks-23/ks-23-pickup-confirmation-large.jpg Alex dlc 13:32, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * oh, and why is the G11 still in the article? it hasent been seen in gameplay or anything. Alex dlc 13:38, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Copyright violation. We had a problem with copyright infringement with leaked MW2 information, Activision alerted Wikia staff. We're not letting that happen again. 14:03, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * well, allright, makes sense. but i still think the G11 has few reasons for being on the article. Alex dlc 14:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was confirmed in a GKNOVA6 thing, GKNOVA6 is affiliated with Treyarch. 14:18, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * wasnt the flamethrower also mentioned in that gknova6 thing? and one last thing, the KS-23 is also clearly visible on one of the newest screenshots released. im pretty sure those screenshots were not leaked, so those would proove the ks-23 is in the game even if the leaked videos cant be used as proof Alex dlc 14:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

^good point. KS-23/Makarov/WA2000 were legally confirmed by guy from callofduty.de.....(Makarov link) Also Galil was confirmed by me(:D) because of "Prestige Edition Trailer" not any of these leaks.....To sum up, KS-23/Galil should return(Makarov is still there). And I agree with "Wiki Rulers Council" to not add any new info based on any leaks. But there is also a little hole in this way of thinking...:d I mean not to confirm officially...but on a Discussion Page - free-talking cannot be censored IMO. btw.With all of this censorship and licking Activision's ### I feel like I'm in PRP(PRL) or Soviet Union...My toleration of Kotick's and Activision's plans of supreme power and their $-baths has borders...If they break I won't buy any of their games. I'll pirate them:<!!! Morihaus 14:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

SAS weapons
There has been a lot of speculation that there will be an SAS mission. So I was thinking about what weapons there might be in that mission. I was thinking that the starting weapons would probably be something like the MP5 and the Walther PPK. What do you guys think? --