User talk:SaintofLosAngelesXD(m)/The Alliance to End Firearm Ignorance/Archive 1

I would like to join
I would like to join this group. although i do not know everything about guns, i do know a little and i would like to be able to share what i kknow i also have alot of stories with the ignorant Lt. Col. Gen.Cain T C   E 13:02, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

May I Join?
I may not be the most knowledgeable about firearms, but I do try to correct people when they are wrong, as I hate people spreading false information. Based on this, may I join this group? I can provide more information if you need it. (Mikeh12 23:09, January 24, 2010 (UTC))

Requests for membership
AdvancedRookie I want to join. I am tired of people thinking there is only one variant of the AK-47.AdvancedRookie 08:40, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * You're in. Welcome to the ATEFI! 08:54, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

ThanksAdvancedRookie 09:04, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to join too, cause I like firearms in games, and real life {only for good reasons, not TERRORISM!!!OMFG OSAMA BIN LADIN!!!WTF!!!!!...sorry about that....Ok, so I like firearms in games mostly, mainly the sniper rifle. I just like to shoot people in the head 100 feet away....and hide in the grass with ghillie suits and sneaking by people. 18:40, January 2, 2010

I would definitely like to join. There's an annoying guy at my school who thinks he knows everything about guns, and I wanna check his accuracy about a lot of what he talks about. That, and although I do know about guns, I know at least some of my knowledge is incorrect and it is somewhat limited still, and I'm hoping this will help expand my understanding. -Shockwolf10 05:07, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to join because I would like to talk and learn more about guns. I can name a couple guns, but I want to learn more than just the M4 Carbine or the RPK. I also am tired of people thinkink that they know about guns from playing games, just like the rest of you. I really hope you will accept my request. By the way my name is a nickname for a famous Russian Arm's Dealer.-MerchantofDeath 11:31, February 01, 2010 (UTC)

I'd Like To Join
Hi. I am a firearms owner in real life, so I'd like to help out. I also have a story I'd like to share. My friend was talking to a friend of his about MW2 the day after it came out, and I happened to overhear. He said "Dude, have you seen the new Call of Duty? There's a new M16 in the game, it's called the FAMOUS!". Obviously he thought that the FAMAS was an M16 because of the three-round burst.

Casual T 20:09, December 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Welcome. 22:56, December 31, 2009 (UTC)

I want to join in, Im tired of people thinking clips are mags, AK-47s, and M16s being the only rifles in the world.

List of retarded things I've heard: - Uzi was made in Japan and pronounced the "utsi" - Retractable Stocks are put over the shoulder like a missile launcher - Ignorance to recoil, accuracy, and bullet drop - Pistols being more efficient then anything else. - Silencers, nuff said - All bullets being the same size

-i want to join please because im tired of people calling the fal a sniper or thinking that a minigun does not have to spoiled up b 4 shooting. Shotty729

I want join in :) nicolasm 22:14, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Count me in
Apart from my friend calling magazines "clips" I have no encounters with the ignorant of firearms, but I'd stil want to be in. Cpl. Wilding 03:22, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Just Wondering...
Isn't it a bit harsh to be doing all these things to people, like shaming them or ignoring them or insulting them? I mean, it's funny to hear people make fools of themselves by blabbing on about things that they have no idea about, but simply correcting them should work. I doubt it's necessary to go to such measures; if they don't take kindly to being corrected, that's their problem, they can be ignorant. I'm not sure why it's necessary to make them feel bad about themselves for being wrong, not everyone knows everything. Even questioning them isn't completely necessary, what if they just want to take Call of Duty for what it is, a game?

Don't get me wrong though, I have my various ignorance related grievances. I just fail to recognize how this level of "payback" or punishment for ignorance is warranted. For the most part, the people aren't even questioning your knowledge of said particulars, by reading the stories. If however, the punishments section is a joke, I'm sorry to have carried on like this. I can completely relate to all of the stories, I just feel bad for some of the people in them... >.< Icepacks 03:36, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * It is semi-serious, semi-joking. And at least in my stories, (except maybe the kid with the shotgun) they were the types of people who don't deserve to be felt sorry for. But your reaction is completely understandable, and I accept it on behalf of the Alliance. 'Cuz I can do that. ;) 06:29, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I'll join
I'm tired of people thinking they know how guns work from video games. I also hate the people that think video games will turn kids into psycho people that will shoot at everybody.--Poketape 04:45, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I want to join
I'm sick and tired of morons who base guns of video games and think they can afford guns and amunition like their pokeman cards or something. DEathgod65 06:17, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

ill join you guys
im sick of people that think all shotguns are pump action and think that an uzi and a mini uzi are the same gun Ak47anihilator 15:21, February 16, 2010 (UTC)ak47annihilator

So yeah...
All the above requests are now members. Huzzah! Remember to put the userbox on your page, guys. And I'm assuming that unsigned one was you, Achronos. 06:31, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

'nother joinee
Hey, I'd like in, put simply.

Also, I laughed loudly about the story of you, your girlfriend and those kids thinking that predator missiles aren't real. And seriously, who the hell doesn't believe flashbangs exist? They probably think AC-130's can fly for about 40-45 seconds until they have to go.

But still, the more the merrier, eh? I know enough about guns to not be a dumbass about them. I know quite a load and can identify most pistol/rifle cartridges by just looking at them, I even own a non-discharged .50 BMG round with all the propellant taken out. Wait, how is that relevant? Ah hell, I just want in, okay? xd --TNT LotLP 18:45, January 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * You're in, welcome to the Alliance! 18:52, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

I want to join
I was sitting at a restaurant. behind me were little kids talking about tactical nukes. They honestly thought that they didn't exsist. LOL. hell i'm just tired of retarded people thinking OH I PLAYED MODERN WARFARE 2 SO I KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT GUNS! i can tell some guns just by the sound and alot by the looks. can i joinI? XXFlyinCowXx 22:40, January 1, 2010 (UTC)xXFlyinCowXx

Can I Join
Can I join the alliance --Pvt.Peter Kendell 20:27, January 3, 2010 (UTC)User:Pvt.Peter Kendell

May I join?
Yeah, I have ALOT of stories and I want to post two. Here they are.
 * I HATE how almost everyone thinks all shotguns can't shoot far, while there ARE long-range shotguns.
 * I also hate how people want to join the military JUST because a game makes it look cool. I have had so much bickering with my friends about it, but Americans can be REALLY stubborn sometimes. They all say that the the Military is good "Because you can get a scholarship" FIRST OF ALL 75% of all homeless people are retired Military members that had their mind fucked up from war. SECOND The highest cause of suicide next to depression is cause of wars. THIRD What's the point of having a scholarship if you either are physically disabled or mentally and mostly even both! Fucking ignorance, yeah this comment doesn't have to do with firearms but it's true, oh and I want to become a member of ATEFI.--Mishulover69 02:17, January 4, 2010 (UTC)


 * You guys are both in. 03:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

Just Curious
Isn't this a little extreme, seeing as how not everyone in the world is knowledgable about firearms (myself included, only i don't make an idiot of myself by pretending to know about them, unless i've actually done research on the firearm in question). Seriously all it takes is a little correction, not the crap you have on the main page.

Can I join? I have a friend who thinks an AA-12 shotgun can only shoot like 10 feet! Infinity Ward screwed with the range of the gun in MW2 for a reason. In real life, an AA-12 shoots a maximum of 200 yards. My friends think that when you aim into a crosshair of a sniper scope and the point is on a head, it'll end up as a headshot at like 2 miles away. My friends actually thought the AUG HBAR in MW2 was originally an LMG. My sister thinks that the Russians still use an AK-47 in their armed forces. They may not know as much as me, but it still makes me sorta angry. For these reasons, I wanna join the firearm whatever ignorance thing that you started. Codfan 06:53, January 4, 2010 (UTC)Codfan

Joining
Heyy, I'd Like To Join.

I read the main Alliance page, and I found the story about Saint and the group of eight year olds hilarious. Predetor's aren't real? Haha. But, one thing I'd like to put, just in case you may consider my request, I consider myself slightly ignorant to some gun facts, and I'm not only joining this alliance to correct and laugh at people with COMPLETE weapon ignorance, but to also become less ignorant myself.

Thanks. Decster97 07:42, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

A Join
Hey, can I join? DevilWarrior112 08:15, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'll join
Well, I actually don't know that much about firearms. But I do know a helluva lot more than those idiots you encounter. Niel15

I'd like to join
I would consider myself rather knowledgeable about firearms and would like to join. I've had quite a few encounters with the ignorant and have shut many an ignoramus up. Anyone who knows firearms, at least to the extent that I do, would know that firearms work nothing like they do in video games. I understand if someone doesn't know because they don't need to, but ignorami who think they're Ranger/SAS/whatever material just because they play Call of Duty annoy me. Count me in. Mr. Pie 07:02, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Count me OUT!
All you guys who want to join the ATEFI are morons. Who, in their right mind, wants to give some poor fool a 20-minute lecture on how a FAMAS isn't pronounced "famous"? Jesus. Not everyone is in the know about firearms like you are. You ATEFI guys are all just saddos who have nothing better to do with their time than this f-- garbage. Peace, 109.76.82.84 16:46, January 5, 2010 (UTC) PS: FYI, an AK-74U is NOT spelled AK-47U. Learn to read properly.

Seriously, you "Tacticool" kiddies need to get a life.

I need to get a life? Me? Look at you, you retarded bitch! >:( Fact remains, all ATEFI members are retarded noobs and losers. You don't even have the guts to let me know who you are! And you're lecturing ME???93.107.209.39 20:11, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

I want in!
I'm sick of all the tards talking about how a p90 is so awsome or the MP40 is "so beast!" and the bitches calling the M1887's the Model's! I am also sick of people thinking that my knowledge of firearms is all from Call Of Duty! I got interested in the military/ police/ firearms back in 2004 in 4th grade, now everyone just thinks i like guns from call of duty when my knowledge extends way beyond that also i kinda blame IW for it(I know I shouldn't though) and to the guy above fuck you asshole.

To those above
Codfan, you're in, as are you Devil Warrior, Niel15 and Mr. Pie. Decster, learning about firearms is an excellent reason to join the group, so you're in as well. The unregistered user above this message, I'm sorry, but you have to be a registered user to be an official member, so create an account and you're in! And to those opposed to this group, that's fine, you're perfectly entitled to your opinions, and I could not care less what you think of me or this group. 00:46, January 6, 2010 (UTC) Yeah sorry I forgot to log in! lol, my user name is redmax29 same with my gamertag & psn


 * Uh, dude? I think it's a good idea to sign the post with 4 tildes. so that we can verify the username and all that, you know?--TNT LotLP 18:00, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'll join
I sick and tired of people who think the AK-47 is the only assault rifle. Count me in :)

Steel Czar 04:48, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

i'll join
i am in the USAF so count me in.

i need to join!
At school: M4= M4A1 carbine pistol= M1911

and everyone thinks a rpg is a bazooka!-Yeshwa1

New section
All above requests are accepted. And to all, remember to sign your posts. 22:40, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

I want to Join
I hate someone thought that every gun has an AK on it and how my friends wants to join the military just because it was fun in the game. Also, one of my friend thought the TAR-21 fires tars.

Sorry
Above is Resnov1997. I forgot to write it. User:Resnov1997 January 7, 2010 20.43 UTC.

I would like to join
I do not know much about guns to be honest and I want to be enlightened by the ATEFI--Cheesytom 15:29, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Hey i'd like to join,i have alot of stories about people at at school who claim to know EVERYTHING about firearms when they think every pistol is called a Glock,and they think a fully automatic shot gun is impossible because the BULLETS are too big,yea they think shotguns shoot bullets.

I would also like to join because i have always had a fasanation(sorry for mispelling) with any kind of firearm and i would like to learn more MG42 vs M60

Request for to join the group
Hello all, I would like to join this group because I'm sick of people being so stupid when it comes to firearms, and acting like they know all about them. A secondary reason that I want to join is that I want to help promote the knowledge of firearms and want to learn more about them myself. WhammyKing121 23:37, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

I'll join too!
Count me in! I know a lot of people who mistake different pistols for glocks (facepalm) -Batman Rider 01:35, January 10, 2010 (UTC)

Acceptance
Everyone above that signed their posts is in the group. I'll no longer be accepting requests from unsigned requests. So remember, sign your posts! 01:06, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join?
I want to help you correcting such mistakes. -Predator B 14:06, 17 january, 2010

I request permission to join, as not only am I tired of people claiming stupid stuff about firearms on Xbox Live, but I'd like to learn a little bit more about them, too. Corporal Juan José Rodriguez Reportin' for duty. 13:46, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

HEY I want in
I just can't stop hearing people saying they'll put a 12 gauge up my BUTT or saying they'll snipe me frome a mile away. THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO SHOOT A GUN.Warpanda13 13:49, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

I want to join the ATEFI.
I am not exactly perfect about firearms (I don't know a lot of the abbreviations mainly), but I am tired of hearing all my friends call guns machine guns and people who think they know all about military and guns just because they watch a lot of the military channels. I also have a story. I was walking back to my class with one of my friends (he watched only the military channels) and he said "You know the M1 carbine is still in service?" I replied "It's been out of service for about 40 years!" He says "The Coast Guard still has it on boats sometimes so it's still in service." IDIOT! Anyways I would love to be in the ATEFI. Pvt. Reddenbawker 19:58, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Can i join?
i am not a huge firearm fanatic as i live in britain

but i do my research and i have m favourites-e.g the mp7/qbz 95- I hate people who think every gun is an uzi/m16/AK/every shotgun goes boom chik chik clicka clicka clicka

p.s long live the fact that the m14 is automatic, not just semi! Calool 21:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)caloolCalool 21:08, January 18, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks to all for signing your posts. You're all in. 01:31, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to join
I have a problem with these little kids who talk and talk and talk on Xbox Live. Here's some examples of their ignorance.


 * Thinking that shotguns can only shoot as far as they can in-game
 * Thinking that no-scoping a sniper rifle makes to bullet go anywhere but straight.
 * Believing that the Model 1887 has the perfect range for a shotgun.
 * Thinking that the Model 1887 is the first shotgun ever made.\
 * Saying that the Model 1887 is a "noob weapon" despite it being unlocked at level 67.

Some people say this group is a bad idea because we correct little kids. There's nothing bad with correcting anybody. If we don't correct them, they'll believe everything CoD shows them. LITE992 02:26, January 20, 2010 (UTC)

In
You are in for sure. 22:19, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

i need to join
im angry with people who think every thing in about the gun is true compare real life to games please can i join

Blemo's Request to Join
Dear Mr. SaintLA,

I would like to request to join your usergroup, because I am sick and tired of going onto YouTube, and watching people ridiculously arguing about what they learned from video games. I've had people tell me: "Oh, this gun is awesome, but it rapes so-and-so in this game", or "Colt .45 and M1911 are not the same thing because this game didn't say so", and even "I play Call of Duty, therefore, I'm an expert on Call of Duty guns". Hehe, if that is true, they'd know that the technical (and arguably much more professional) term for "gun" is firearm.

Anyway, I'm glad that this issue has been addressed, and I was interested to be a part of it.

Thanks, and Best Regards,

--  Blemo http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif TALK • CONTRIBUTIONS • EMAIL • MESSAGE


 * You're in for sure. To the request above his, I'm sorry, but you'll have to sign your post. 01:38, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

May i join?
I epicly hate people who do this

It annoys me to the highest level

Especially when they talk about guns wrong!!!

So anyway, please let me join :-) 7th Body 03:51, January 23, 2010 (UTC)7th Body


 * Request accepted. 20:07, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Joing the ATEFI
Yes i would like to join ,i am an ameture gunsmith with my fire arms only .I am getting tired of everyone flipping out about control and how a "Gun" can kill a pearson when infact it is an in-animate object.Also i am tired of the shear lack of knowledge and respect that is posed for the firearms in our society as a wholeBayHarborButcher 04:47, January 25, 2010 (UTC)BayHarborButcher

Can i please join?
i would like to join based on this one occurance: while playing CoD3 my brother said that the AK-47 was a chinese assult rifle. i told him it was Russian, he chose not to believe me, so i went to AK-47 on wikipedia, that shut him up.

Can i join
I really want to join i know a shit load about guns every one around me knows that i have even corrected Colonel`s that have goting this round im not currerntly in the armed fores (weel tecnicly im its realy scrued up) and i always have wanted to go in the military but some dman Cod games come out and now other pepole want to join becuse they think it would be cool i know how tuff the military is. in all i want to join Armyguy277

Membership request
I'd like to join the cause.

I'm sick of people thinking that:

Sniping is as simple as aim-shoot. No need to readjust when aiming at a target at 100m compared to 900m. Basically thinking bullet drop is non-existant. Thinking you can fire a barrett or cheytac from the hip

People who think shotguns can only hit someone within 10ft.

People who think you can dual-wield shotguns, let alone reload them one-handed.

People who think you can accurately use two handguns at once. My friend and I own similar handguns and even at 10ft it's hard to hit a human-sized target.

People who think that weapons are cheap. Many people have no idea that a single javelin system costs somewhere near $200,000. And most guns in the game cost 10k+

People who think stun grenades, flashbangs, or tactical nukes don't exist.

People who think EMPs cause temporary damage

People who think that claymores are like in that one infomercial..."set it, and forget it" and actually use lasers.

People who think that a riot shield is completely bullet proof, or that you can stand in front of a shotgun and not be pushed back/knocked over.

There are too many to mention. Can i join?Brothertim 15:47, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

May I join?
I would like to join this group because half my friends get over half their gun knowledge from the Call of Duty series. Sidewinder82 02:31, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Section
Brothertim, Sidewinder, and Armyguy, you're all in. I can't accept that unsigned post though. Lo siento. 19:19, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Request to Join.
Normally i'd leave you people to rot in the dirt. But, after several instances of severe ignorance, no, scratch that, complete dumbassery, i have decided to submit my request to join. Here is a small list of 5 things i put up with;


 * People who believe you can fire a Desert Eagle insanely fast and not break your wrist


 * People stating that the Intervention is a WEAPON and not a WEAPON'S SYSTEM!


 * People who believe everything shown in videogames is a lie concerning weapons (Seriously, one jackass claimed half the stuff in CoD is false, including Flashbangs, the AA-12, the ACR, and the FAMAS)


 * People who pretend to own firearms, but when you ask them about it, they make false statements and dodge the conversation. Again, met one jackass, claimed to own an M16, stated it fired in all types of firing mode (Bullshit), fired .50 BMG (Bullshit) And said it had an attached Masterkey Shotgun and M203 grenade launcher, ACOG scope and an extended magazine. After this i proceeded to correcr him on all the mistakes and quizzed him until he cried and literally cried to his mum. Seriously he went "Mummy! Make him stop!", needless to say, the mother felt the wrath of gun-nerd scottish 13-year-old.


 * People who can't pronounce weapon names correct, and say stuff like "ACR means Automatic Cumshot Rifle lulz"
 * People who can spend 5 seconds writing in english.

--Nelo Angelo 97 19:36, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

May i join please?
I hate people who know nothing about firearms. My friends all have airsoft and paintball guns, and I can't stand how they think that an airsoft replica of an actual gun is exactly like the actual one. I always end up explaining to them how much they are wrong. I also ended up explaining to my friend that FMJ bullets aren't hollow. Yes, he thought they were. He also believed that thermal scopes could see through glass, which I promtly corrected him on. Please allow me to join. Sactage 20:04, January 30, 2010 (UTC)

Would you kindly let me join? (What do you mean, wrong gam-Oh.)
Just a question first, you could also expand this to cover military things as well. I hate little 8 year olds who really think the army is like this, that. Also I would like to join :) Also I do believe real soldiers use .50 BMGs >> --Novangel 19:22, Feburary 3, 2010 (UTC)

Can I join?
My friends think that AA-12 can use FMJ in real life......and they also think the riot shield can with stand anything.I just correct them and they think I'm wrong!(Stupid!).So i'd like to join this group.--KenLee318 13:12, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

I'd like to join 2
Only thing that happened to me is 2 boys fightning airsoft MAC-10 and called them UZI's (not only they were wrong about the gun, But they also were wrong calling MAC-10 that looks similar to MICRO UZI not the big one) mostly because my friends have enough knowledge about firearms ( and in my language you can't call a magazine a clip :--) ) Bartekko 17:02, February 6, 2010 (UTC)

Permission to join?
Boy have I got stories for you guys. Plenty, at least 25 stories that all relate to world war 2 and beyond...

History teacher bringing in a cap gun and claiming that "his father used this during 'Nam". Me losing my cool.

Explaining to a 45 year old COD player that half of the stuff he claims isn't real, is.

Showing the end result of firing .50AE Deagles in both hands, with a diagram.

Pulling up all weapon info for MW2, comparing it to real life, and doing a history report about it.

Proving to classmates that I can "hit a target from 600 metres away and then showing them what would happen if it were a real person.

Heres a good one:

Kid 1: Dude.. My dad owns a M16 that has an M203.

Me: M203's are banned in Australia under the illegal weapons act.

Kid 2: I've seen it. It shoots like the one in COD4. And he owns a .50cal.

Me: *Brings up on phone the illegal weapons act of 1974 and shows what you can and can't have.

Kid 1 & 2: Whatever dude. I could kill you with my tactical knife. *Note that I put the words "Tactical Knife" without capital letters. He didn't pronounce it properly.

2-5

Can I Please Join?
I�hate it when someone says "Man, look at that Uzi" yet it is an ACR. My friend does that a lot and I get really pissed. Another thing that I really hate is when someone calls a Desert Eagle a Deagle. It is a Desert Eagle not a god damn Deagle! Cpl. Dunn 01:05, February 10, 2010 (UTC)

I want join it, guys!
I hate "reloading ak with new clip with 30 bullets". I want join, nothing else to say.Zaqq 13:42, February 12, 2010 (UTC)