Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

New Trailer?
A video on the Black Ops article mentioned that a new trailer was coming out today, but I can't seem to find it. If someone knows where/what it is, could they add it to the videos section?http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif 00:55, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

It premiers on ESPN at 10:00 PM tonight. General SkullRod  00:56, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Youtube, go to search up cod black ops and click the video by the guy named CALLOFDUTY and thats it.... it was amazing

Ak-47
I think the AK is actually an AK-74. Look at the magazine. Darkman 4 02:53, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe you're right. Also, doesn't the guy at 00:11 look a lot like Bruce Willis? Chief z 03:15, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you're mistaking it for the RPK. The RPK has the same magazine as the AK-74.

The trailer is here
According to the site, it says "Uncut"

http://www.callofduty.com/blackops?path=blackops

Ferrariguy1000 03:11, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

A Scope?
i think i saw a ACOG like scope on the CAR-15 on one part of the trailer. Can anyone Identify what type of scope it is? Ferrariguy1000 03:26, May 19, 2010 (UTC) For reference. Darkman 4 03:30, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

acording to imfdb it is a colt scope Alexcwalker 17:13, May 20, 2010 (UTC)alexcwalker

Vehicles!
All right, here's what I got:
 * F-4 Phantom
 * UH-1 "Huey"
 * SR-71 (not the A-12)
 * Mi-8 gunship
 * Mi-24A
 * random jeeps (UAZ's ?)Chief z 03:40, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sources!
Can someone cite where the statements in the opening paragraph have come from?: "Treyarch has stated that Black Ops will be much grittier than Modern Warfare 2| and that the differences between World at War and Black Ops will be as significant as the differences between Call of Duty 2 and Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare." Otherwise, this could easily be seen as conjecture. Automechtech1 03:50, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I second that motion. If something like this is not caught early on, I think it could easily slip under the radar for too long. Attack Rhino 04:46, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/05/14/oxm-scans-reveal-goldmine-of-call-of-duty-black-ops-details/ Darkman 4 04:48, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well then, I think those statements can safely be cited. Thanks, Attack Rhino 06:33, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

E3
So is it guaranteed that there will be gameplay at E3 (which is not too long ahead)? Maj.Gage Talk. 10:01, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

M21?
can someone say me where it was confirmed that the M21 will be in the game? Elberto 12:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

It is apparently in the part of the trailer when they show the blueprints. If you would look at the pages history, you would see that.   404 Error   File Not Found  Please Try Again 12:14, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Hey I believe the rifle you thought was the M21 is actually a Springfield M1903A4, which saw limited usage in Vietnam. Does anyone agree? -Tedmiester

The M21 wasn't used in Vietnam. So I'm with Ted.  Conqueror of  all Zombies  Ta lk  01:36, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Good catch Ted! General SkullRod  02:01, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks-Tedmiester

What?! Of course it was! The Army used it under the designation XM21 starting in 1969. Heck, it was their primary sniper rifle up until 1988. Chief z 15:29, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

It is true that the XM21 SWS was used in Vietnam and could be in the game, however the picture in the blueprints resembles the M1903A4 far more than the XM21-Tedmiester

Maybe it is an M14. They saw lots of use in the early stages before the AR-15s were adopted. they were supposed to be where the AR-15/M-16 is today. Then Eugine Stoner took that spot with the AR. They were supposed to be sniper, assault, and CQB specialized weapons in one selective fire battle rifle, but were too heavy and had a too low ammo capacity. Agreon Agreon

That is true, however if you find an image of an M1903A4 you can easily see the resemblance in the outline of the rifle in the blueprint picture.-Tedmiester



Where is the M60 shown?
I never saw it. Imrlybord7 12:30, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Per Bord, video/proof would be appreciated. 12:48, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

RPG-7 on Guys back at 1:07-1:08 on new Video

How does that have anything to do with the M60?   404 Error   File Not Found  Please Try Again 12:53, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Even though it has nothing to do with the M60, I still can't see anything in that photo. 12:55, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Neither can I. It's about clear as mud.   404 Error   File Not Found  Please Try Again 12:57, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

its hard to spot But it is there, Watch the video its allot clearer, i used a video Editing program and watched it in slo mo

Its either an RPG-7 or an AT4

That rifle is definitely not an M21. I'm going to remove the M21 and M60 from the list for now. Imrlybord7 13:02, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Please sign your comments with four tildes ( ~ ). No offense, but I can't see anything in that photo. It's just a blurry photo of a launcher.

I swear I saw it on a huey helicopter. The M60 was mounted though. Ferrariguy1000 00:26, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

The Photo barely matters. Its Viet Nam and the M60 was the only LMG used. Really? I have no proof but it only makes sense ~Agreon

Better Sally pistol Image
Here, just in case no one believed me that it says 'Sally'.



13:07, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * A new image on callofduty.com (in the media section) shows the name "Sally" very clearly. Imrlybord7 13:10, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * *headslaps myself* I really need to look in places before I post. 13:12, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * lol. I was just saying for your convenience, not trying to correct you. And if anyone finds it odd that I'm not posting the pic myself, it's because a lot of websites are blocked on my school laptop. Also, for some reason the only CoD Wiki page that is blocked is Helicopter. Imrlybord7 13:15, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know, I was just making fun of myself. Why would helicopter be blocked? 13:21, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

EEEEEEEEEEEVEN BETTER SALLY IMAGE



Cool. But could you PLEASE sign you posts with four tildes ( ~ )? 16:45, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I have some explanations of the 'Sally' It is an M1911 handgun with tallies on it. the tallies might mean the number of enemy kills. Agreon 00:41, May 22, 2010 (UTC)Agreon.

RPG-7 and Machete Pics!
heres a better pic of a couple of RPG-7 in the trailer

another pic:

close up:

also, you can see a machete at 0:52

PS: i predicted black ops would have a crossbow a week before they confirmed it! :)

Alex dlc 13:26, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the pics and cool story, bro. Imrlybord7 13:43, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for close ups, Glad somone belived me bout RPG-7 :loonyface


 * i found the RPG-7 by myself, didnt need to believe anyone since i already knew it was there Alex dlc 14:25, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

It appears that Treyarch has fixed what IW didn't. They added the right side with the ejection port of the M16 so it looks accurate instead of having two sides of the left side... 81.224.143.147 13:36, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Good catch. It's nice to see them finally give a damn about detail. Imrlybord7 13:44, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * dont get it... Alex dlc 14:03, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's where the empty casing comes out of the weapon once it's been fired. 15:22, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Possible Character based on Imran Zakhaev
At 0:17, you can see a person walking. His face is very similar to those of Imran Zakhaev and Sgt. Reznov from earlier CODs. Developers might have used this character appearance again, as this face would be easily recognisable. He might be a Soviet special force operative or of another branch, as Soviet specialists were send to Vietnam in small numbers to help NVA in real life.

Well, some say Reznov may return as a high ranking officer. 21:52, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Message by Guinea Pig, 19/5/2010

If he does return, then he will of course be with the Soviet Union, and therefore, will be an enemy (maybe primary antagonist) in the game.

Random Man 0213 22:06, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

If he is and we have to kill him I won't be able to do it. He's just to bad ass lol. 00:10, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

GK logo in trailer and in GKNOVA6 site
heres a pic from gknova6.com



heres a pic of the logo in the trailer



Alex dlc 14:53, May 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * That is a very nice find. Good job! Ferrariguy1000 02:55, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * thank you! im surprised no one else noticed it. if anyone had any doubts about what gknova6 was about, this pretty much 100% confirms that its about black ops Alex dlc 07:57, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Boonie Time!
Looks like Captain Price's favourite piece of headwear is coming back. At 1:01! 15:58, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Mmmmm boonie hat

Spas 12 with Dragon's Breath


Looks like that guy's on fire. He wasn't before the SPAS was fired. 16:53, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Sweet, I didn't notice that. 16:54, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah its incendiary rounds, Its in Official Xbox Magazine UK for this month. 16:24, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

SPAS 12 is semi-auto
Look at the first person footage and the third person footage of the SPAS-12. Notice how the user does not pump the shotgun. And in the third person footage, many shots are being fired off in quick succession. This is not unrealistic, the SPAS-12 does have a semi-auto mode. 16:58, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Good catch, you're a lot better at noticing things like that than I am. 17:00, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's actually more realistic because the SPAS is usually used as a semi-automatic shotgun. Imrlybord7 17:00, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

My mind is flashing to multiplayer... People are gonna trigger-spam them. Hope they put a firecap on them. 17:03, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

You do realize that the M1014, Double-Barreled Shotgun, Striker, Ranger, and M1014 were all semi automatic and pretty well balanced, right? And the AA-12 was full auto, and even that wasn't terribly OP. Imrlybord7 23:27, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, but in MW2, the SPAS was the best shotgun (in terms of damage and range), if it does the same damage/range in BO, well, then, you know what might happen. But yes, I get your point, those were balanced. 04:44, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

They obviously wouldn't make it semi-automatic and maintain its insane one shot kill range. Although they might make it almost that good if it is a primary weapon. Imrlybord7 16:42, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

That's the problem, we don't know if they're primaries or secondaries yet. All we can do it wait and see. 16:45, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Treyarch have said that they're not fans of secondary Shotguns. Doc.  Richtofen  15:07, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Looking Forward
I can't wait for this game. Real good news is that it's by Treyarch, who i adore. And, best of all... There's AUGs! You may think that's no big deal, but i really like AUGs. Reply to this message if you're also excited about Black Ops. 195.93.21.36 17:44, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

P.S: I really like SPASes as well. 195.93.21.36 17:44, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

HQ Pics plz
http://www.imagebam.com/gallery/22ef467e9704cb03975af50ea041048c/1 enjoy --Ashwilso12 17:47, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * imagine in the character played lee harvey oswald. that would probs top the MW2 no russin' contro --Ashwilso12 17:48, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Boonie Hat guy
There's some speculation on the MW2 forums that John Price from the MW series is gonna appear in Black Ops. Seemed unlikely to me, so I took a picture from the trailer and decided to post it here aswell. --Sentinel 101 17:49, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Na, it's not him. 22:08, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

I'm gonna be really realistic for a second. A person named Price has been in at least 3 COD games so far, that I know of In MW2 and Classic, he plays a very similar roll. He was broken out of prison and became some commander quickly. They have similar looks. Now, will I be surprised if this turns out to be the same, or another, Price? Nope! Agreon 00:48, May 22, 2010 (UTC)Agreon
 * Classic
 * Modern Warfare 2 & Modern Warfare

AK-74 and Weapons
At the new trailer, 0:30, there are 2 soldiers in snowy woodland. The one on the left seems to have an AK-74 or at least a 5.45 caliber AK rifle. This means we might have the AK-47 as well as the AK-74.

Message by Guinea Pig, 19/5/2010

Lab?
I believe the game could have a part involving the main character being in a lab. in the begining of the vid, you hear : let him rest, he might remember. and near the middle, somthing about raising volts could suggest torture. the character wildly looking around with blurred vision hints at probable kidnapping through drugging. anyone agree with me?

Price25 18:19, May 19, 2010

MP5 Prototype?
Can someone tell me how they figure the MP5 is a prototype? It was in production long before the AUG or SPAS-12Apepa 22:43, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's the EXACT same look, although I don't know the magazine size. Just trust me. 22:35, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures?Apepa 22:43, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Real life or in the trailer? I can get real life pics. 22:44, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

The gun being carried by the recurring squadmate at the beginning of the 15 second teaser which announced when the big trailer would come out looks exactly like the MP5k prototype, just with a barrel that was about an inch longer. Imrlybord7 23:28, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, take a look at the verticle grip, and an inch on the berrel falls within the margin-of-error. 23:30, May 19, 2010 (UTC)

this was the first prototype of the mp5k made in 1976. check this website http://www.hkpro.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=91:mp5k-series&catid=9:the-submachine-guns&Itemid=5 Alex dlc 07:53, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Bearded Guy
Since the user Ukimies totally deleted this subject without clarifying the issue. Maybe he can inform us as to where it says that the bearded guy in the trailer is the main squad leader? Huh? You work for Treyarch or something, jackass? I don't appreciate you deleting my discussions just because you want to assume things and make a total ass out of yourself.

Hey, sign your messages, and calm down, or, start a flame war and gat banned. Pick one.66.42.217.22 00:54, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I didn't delete anything. That'd be a violation of COD:DDD. I don't know where you got it from that I deleted your discussions. I don't work for Treyarch. I'm not a jackass. I never said he was the main squad leader. You should check your proof before you start flaming blindly at users. And sign your comments, it makes you look unprofessional. 17:41, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Now that I think about it, I can't remember what I did. I just lost all my pride. :( Though I did see what Bord wrote on your page, it was an accident. 17:44, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Fee on Multiplayer?
That is Ridicoulusly stupid.  Squelliot Wanna Talk?   Glorious edits   00:57, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

"It is rumored that Activision is planning on charging a fee for the multiplayer use of Call of Duty: Black Ops."

When I saw this, I screamed like; "WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATT?!" Maj.Gage Talk. 01:50, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

It is actually been thrown around by Activision higher-ups when MW2 came out. I think money-grubbing Bobby Kotick has something to do with this. Whether they do or not remains uncertain... Automechtech1 02:44, May 20, 2010 (UTC) well, xbox live is already charging to play online. but if we have to pay to play online on ps3, i will not buy this game. this better be a fake rumor Alex dlc 07:55, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I SERIOUSLY hope someones trolling. as if activision havent screwed people and their own staff out of enough money, the heartless bastards --Ashwilso12 07:24, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well dah, its just Microsoft being greedy bastards. The PC generally does not have it (except for maybe the very occasional title), Sony was also clearly thinking straight too. I would hope that the Activision Brass are not so engrossed in profits -take that back: are not more engrossed in profit margins than they normally are that they would do something as idiotic enough to make MP fee charging. I think that if it ever came to the PS3 or the PC, a reasonable amount would just desert they user base. Attack Rhino 12:55, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Microsoft has nothing to do with this. They aren't allowed to have anything to do with something like that (i.e. it's the publisher's business) and they wouldn't make any money off of it (in fact, they would lose money). But I doubt this is going to go through. Imrlybord7 16:38, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * It'd be too controversial in my opinion. We've gotten free multiplayer for three years now; why would Activision start charging for it? Plus it's just a rumor at the moment; nothing is official right now. 16:41, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * When I saw that, I had the same reaction as Gage. I really hope they don't do it considering I just renewed my live account a month ago. So technechlly, we do pay for multiplay. Just a large amount once a year. If they do this, I'm not playing multiplay on the game. I may not even buy it, although it looks like it's gonna have a great campaign. I think i heard this rumor when Modern Warfare 2 was coming out. Anyway, I'm sure it's just a rumor. 7th Body 19:59, May 20, 2010 (UTC)7th Body
 * When I saw that, I had the same reaction as Gage. I really hope they don't do it considering I just renewed my live account a month ago. So technechlly, we do pay for multiplay. Just a large amount once a year. If they do this, I'm not playing multiplay on the game. I may not even buy it, although it looks like it's gonna have a great campaign. I think i heard this rumor when Modern Warfare 2 was coming out. Anyway, I'm sure it's just a rumor. 7th Body 19:59, May 20, 2010 (UTC)7th Body

Cut the Modern Warfare "Tie-Ins"
I think that we should cut everything relating to characters from Modern Warfare from this page. no information has been given as far as i know. i hate thinking a great game could be ruined with characters i couldn't care less about. KrakerJakk May 19 - 8:58
 * Don't bother. People are going to keep doing this up until everything is known about the game. That is just how they are. They read far too much into all of this, you will just be wasting your time. P.S I fixed ya last sentence for ya. Attack Rhino 01:28, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree with OP, wtf is that about a soldier who looks like price? no he doesnt, just because he owns a hat doesnt make it so. edit inbound. --Ashwilso12 07:27, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

re-protected
Wow, the page has been semi-protected for less than a day and crap speculation is already pouring in. Time to make it so that only admins can edit the page again. Darkman 4 02:09, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Listen up!
Okay, I have a few things to say:

I watched the "Uncut" trailer, and I saw the CAR-15. It should be added to the weapons list. Also, I think that the pistol, "Sally" is Price's pistol. Also, doesn't this pic look like Price?

Also, did you know that on the Black Ops site, there's a count down till the game comes out? Conqueror of  all Zombies  Ta lk  03:47, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

We already know that there's a CAR-15, but technically it could be a similar looking AR-15 variant. And I highly doubt that Price will be in the game, not to mention that there is absolutely no reason to believe that Price's pistol was ever named or had anything to do with the name "Sally." Imrlybord7 03:52, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I know that there is no reason to beleive that Price's pistol is named, but you never know. And the CAR-15 isn't on the weapon's page.  Conqueror of  all Zombies  Ta lk  03:57, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

IMO that guy doesn't look anything like Price either, he has a mustache, yes, but this guy's 'stache is a lot thinner and smaller than Price's. There isn't much of a facial resemblance either. --WouldYouKindly 04:30, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, I agree with WYK. He doesn't look like price. No facial resemblelance. Attack Rhino 07:00, May 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * not to mention the m1911 has only appeared in EVERY single main call of duty title --Ashwilso12 10:40, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * So? That doesn't mean it's Price's. 11:48, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

AUG?
Isn't it an LMG, not an AR? F Brushfire 15:09, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

there is different versions of the AUG. in MW2 they used the LMG version. i think the one in Black Ops will be the assault riffle version. Alex dlc 15:36, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Not many Assault Rifles use bipods, that's mainly for bigger artillary. General SkullRod  16:49, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * at least they havent included a bipod at any rate, that make the guns in mw2 look ugly lol --Ashwilso12 16:17, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Activision will make us pay to play??
Who the hell wrote that it was rumored that Activision might have us pay to play multiplayer? What the hell? I'm taking that down or somebody else can unless there is proof, I mean honestly why the hell would you think that?? We pay for XBL that's it, they can't make us pay.Habbyboy12y 17:04, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

It's a valid rumor. Get over it. General SkullRod  17:05, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

http://dlb-network.com/2010/02/activision-subscription-fees-for-call-of-duty/ There is loads of blogs and stuff about it. Over teh interwebs. 17:06, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I honestly see it as more likely for it to be in the MMO rather than this game. I see it as very unlikely for it to be in this game. More importantly, we've been told time and time again NOT to add rumours to the BO page, so remove it unless you want to be a hypocrite. It may very well happen, but until it's confirmed don't add it to this page. F Brushfire 18:01, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think that it's a load of bull.  Conqueror of  all Zombies  Ta lk  00:53, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Was that... directed at me? F Brushfire 14:13, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you could presume that it was not directed at you, instead being directed at the rumour. Attack Rhino 16:07, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Brushfire, that was directed at the rumor, not you. General SkullRod  16:32, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I've assumed as such on this site before and it as. Just making sure lol. F Brushfire 21:42, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Guys, that will NOT happen, common sense. 21:44, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Reznov is back!!!!
http://systemlink.gamersguidetolife.com/2010/05/new-call-of-duty-black-ops-details.html

As above^^ Morihaus 17:21, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Why the picture? Anyway In the most recent xbox mag, it said an enemy looked like reznov. Easter egg perhaps? 17:37, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Reznov is most likely going to be an enemy, and could be a primary antagonist. Sob... I just can't shoot him... He's just too awesome...

Random Man 0213 19:15, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

Wait if Reznov is back... Then Dimitri must return! Shame Roebuck or Polonsky can never come back. 20:26, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

The guy in that picture isn't Price. He has a similar beard but not the same face. Also, in the world premiere trailer he says "Ready when you are" just before they breach through the window with the arctic AUGs, however he does not have an English accent.-Tedmiester

Reznov back?! *Gage proceeds to pelvic thrust quite rapidly* BLAAARGH! YES! Maj.Gage Talk. 00:38, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Don't get too excited. We might have to kill him... *Flashback to Shepherd's death...*

Random Man 0213 00:40, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

tally Marks
I was on the Call of Duty:Black Ops website, and I saw that on the picture of the guy holding the two pistols, the left one has tally marks on it. http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/File:Logo_Black_Ops.jpg#filelinks
 * Maybe it means how many VC/NVA/Russsians/whatever he has killed with the handgun, and made a kill tally of it… I guess. Attack Rhino 05:38, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * That reminds me of Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway. The sniper who marks his kills. 7th Body 19:35, May 21, 2010 (UTC)7th Body
 * That reminds me of Brothers in Arms: Hells Highway. The sniper who marks his kills. 7th Body 19:35, May 21, 2010 (UTC)7th Body

Link
We Need Some Linkage for the first air calvery division. I just created the page Warpanda13 21:39, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

What?
Why is this page locked? It doesn't make any sense. I understood the block to non-users, but this is ridiculous. It needs to be open to the community because if someone finds out some information they can put it up immediately. The whole idea of a wiki is to be able to edit it. Seriously, what is our motto? NO ONE EDITS ALONE. Now we are going against our own motto. What is that about. Please unlock it, for the community. -- Alex Martin Rider 23:48, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * its protected to prevent idiots from putting false info/what they think should be in the game on the page. That's happened a lot before. Darkman 4 00:19, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, you take the motto seriously? lol Darkman 4 00:19, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, we tried that and the article went to crap in a matter of hours. Users and anons alike can add information on this talk page for us to put into the article. Besides, everyone is supposed to provide proof of the information they are adding on this very page, so it isn't much of a difference. Imrlybord7 00:20, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Calm down man, I'm a little upset too but still, the admins had a valid reason for protecting the page. You see, some users were adding their own ideas to the page which gave out false info. Don't worry though, the protection will probably be lifted in another week when things calm down. 00:20, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Alright, I guess I just don't understand why someone would do that. I know I would NEVER do something like that. By the way, yes I do talk our motto seriously. That's why we have a motto isn't it. If no one takes it seriously, then I don't know why we have it. I take it completely seriously. -- Alex Martin Rider 01:05, May 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, if I'm quite honest I'm not that bothered, though I also understand why others may be. I used to fix some grammar errors and change the layout slightly, add stuff I found out and whatnot but it's not that big of a deal. The main reason for this is that EVERYTHING that goes on that page is discussed here first. Simple as. The main reason for that is to provide proof that what you are saying should be put on the page. Also, I do agree on the last point. Why the hell have a motto if it means nothing to you? It's not a slogan. F Brushfire  14:13, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Link Viet Cong to Viet Cong
We need a link for the Viet Cong. I recently edited the page --Omnicube1 00:14, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Paying for multiplayer?
What is that supposed to mean? Do you have to buy the multiplayer like a map pack? Thats a low blow Activision, dont do it please!

It's only a rumor at the moment. 17:30, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't Activision make enough off of all the other games they publish? Unbelievable. This had better not happen. Especially Xbox players, who have to pay for XBL would have to pay again for more multiplayer. LITE992 19:19, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Once again, just a rumor. 20:02, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

If they make us pay, then f**k activision. I can play BC2. Bumblebeeprime09 Talk 03:19, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

The AK matter, once more
Since a lot of people have been noticing that a lot of the AKs we've seen are either AKMs, Norinco 56s, or AK-74s, I propose that we put in some of those as possibilities. Provided, they're probably all gonna be the same gun when the game/beta/whatever comes out, and that gun will likely be called an AK-47 (as that's the name most people are familiar with), but I figure it wouldn't hurt to be accurate. Soul Embrace 19:30, May 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Who cares what it really is? Everybody knows what an AK-47 is, so let's just keep it that to prevent confusion. Darkman 4 20:00, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Quinton Flynn?
For those of you who don't know, Flynn's the guy who voices Raiden for MGS2 and MGS4, At the part of the trailer where the guy says "We live in a world where seeing is not believing". Kinda sounds like the Raiden from Metal Gear Solid 4, What do you think?  Squelliot Wanna Talk?   Glorious edits   20:57, May 21, 2010 (UTC)

Some sort of Black Ops event
http://twitter.com/jd_2020/first-look-2010

This is a twitter according to the official Call of Duty: Black Ops that talks about some event about the game. Does it sound interesting enough pay attention to? Ferrariguy1000 01:23, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know. Maybe. Bumblebeeprime09 Talk 03:16, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

The real question is; why weren't any of our admins/major editors invited? I'm hurt. Darkman 4 03:33, May 22, 2010 (UTC)