Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

Black ops sorta already came out right?
Didnt we have a blog saying that Uk would get Black Ops on the 3rd or 4th and if so wouldnt that mean it already came out?Sgt Sprinkles 21:55, November 3, 2010 (UTC)

Nope, I believe it comes out everywhere on the 9th. The only people playing it right now are the people with Jtagged Xboxes.--WouldYouKindly 22:18, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * IIRC there are also a few people playing the PS3 version as well. Darkman 4 23:07, November 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * Many people have a retail copy, and the ISO was leaked so bothe flashed xbox's and JTAGs are playing. (Along with those that managed to get a real copy). --Cc123 02:07, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah I was a bit tired when I wrote that. I forgot about the fact that some of the smaller retailers break street dates.--WouldYouKindly 02:08, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

thumb|300px|left|1 day!!!!02:01, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Well I live in the UK, my friend got it just yesterday (Pre-Ordering bastard), so I'm guessing it did come out on the 9th everywhere. ForeignHedgehog 07:54, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia
I found some trivia that the care package crate does no longer kill you by falling on you it can be seen at 3 minutes in this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDVm8yAGNpg also in that vid shows you vote out of two maps, or random map. Also new map called Nuketown (unsigned)


 * The care package is only shown to not kill team mates in core game modes in that video. No official videos have shown what happens if it falls on you or on an enemy. This tweet may hint that the care package drop can kill enemines but isn't really conclusive:
 * @DaftTank Wow. Rare. No idea! Would test personally and find out from sheer morbid curiosity, but not in the office. Traveling.


 * In response to this question:
 * @DavidVonderhaar Hey if i drop a Care Package on a person will it still count towards my killstreak?? Codemaker 22:03, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * It will not count to your killstreak, but you can kill yourself with the package if you stand right under it. (T.Blazingchamion)

new map and combat training
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r881se-RHRo here it is even through i hate ign they gave us rights to post lil bit of leaked stuff well more like unleaked it and i think the map is firing range - littleNemo

also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwhHMX7bWyM and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpLYnNb1K50 and http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JNDxHf67_g theres commando with flamethrower and some maps - littleNemo

question
are black ops and call of duty 4 amd modren warfare 2 set in the same 'universe'

Wut...I understand the question, but I...I just don't know how to answer without flaming...IIID Empire 11:34, Nov.4,10

Yes. The difference is Modern Warfare in the future. Smuff [ The cake is a lie. ] 21:52, November 4, 2010 (UTC)

Well actually I'd have to say no because well there was no mention of any events in any of the MWs. And they are made by two diffrent companys and does anyone else remember how mad IW got when Treyarch put 3 in the CoD3 title so why would they let them use the same universe. Heres how I see it theres the Modern Warfare universe the Black Ops universe the World War 2 universe and the Nazi zombies. Sniper team  82308  02:17, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

sniper team is partially right. all IW COD's have made small refrences to each other, and all treyarch's games as well. There "universes" go as followed: WW2, IW's Modern Warfare, Treyarch's World at War- Black ops and zombies.


 * The reasons being the WW2 games (pre COD4) are all very similar in the way they were played, treyarch's games were expantions excluding Cod3.


 * Modern warfare revolves around the same conflict, modified to each respected game, main characters return, and deceased main characters are referenced.


 * Black ops is classified in the Treyarch recent history (1935-present) universe. Black Ops makes refrences to WAW and main characters return in the cold war era.

all that to say Black ops is in WAW's universe at a time period similar to Modern Warfare.
 * Zombies are a stand alone universe, still in recent history, because zombies aren't considered WAW "canon". no where in WAW's canon campaign are zombies referenced.

GETreal 22:08, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

If you look at the walls of the Asylum during Ring of Steel you will notice that there are the drawings of zombies on the walls. Conqueror of all Zombies 22:13, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

it just looks like people drawn in blood.

Rc-1136 actually on the intel in black ops for the last mission redemption Ryan says The SAS is going to send him a young team cpt named johnathan (it's redacted) and it mentions this cpts last name again but it's redacted as well it's a short name cpt johnathan price is the name I'm 90% sure cpt price from iw is mentioned cpt prices name from iw is John and he was a very young SAS member during black ops

thank a bunch butthead4 Treyarch may have price in an expansion or sequel due to iw not able to use him anymore read the intel for further speculation

Black Ops Campaign Levels
There are 15 campagin levels.

Operation 40 -- Vorkuta -- U.S.D.D. -- Executive Order -- S.O.G. -- The Defector -- Numbers -- Project Nova -- Victor Charlie -- Crash Site -- WMD -- Payback -- Rebirth -- Revelations -- Redemtion

Here is a picture I took as proof: (Removed it) --Cc123 02:05, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Leaked. We can't use it. If we do, then Activision might take legal action.[[file:R700iwi.png|80px]]Sgt.Sandwich | Talk shop | Combat record [[file:Emblem-burgertown.jpg|30px]] 02:06, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is leaked therfore we cant use it
 * 121.218.234.218 02:13, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh. Sorry, didn't realize that. Seem's dumb that they would take action against an informational site, but w/e. --Cc123 02:38, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries mate, just a few days more and we can post everything. --LOST-The Cartographer 04:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ahh. Sorry, didn't realize that. Seem's dumb that they would take action against an informational site, but w/e. --Cc123 02:38, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries mate, just a few days more and we can post everything. --LOST-The Cartographer 04:09, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Multiplayer Gametypes
In the 1 hour gamespot video at about 2:25 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDVm8yAGNpg), David Vonderhaar says that there are possibly Hardcore, Core, and Barebones variations for each game mode.


 * So you know the game as probably 'core' and a lot of people also know the 'hardcore' version of the game which removes the HUD and makes the game deadlier. But there's also a 'barebones' variation of every game mode; or there could be... - David Vonderhaar

He then goes on to describe what the barebones variation consts of. The gametypes section should probably be updated to reflect the fact that there will be a barebones variation on some game modes. David Vonderhaar also posted a tenative list of game modes in the CoDHQ forums That was over a month ago, so that list probably isn't current anymore. It does demonstrate that the playlists probably won't be organized like MW2's playlists were and will probably be organized more like WaW's playlists were. codemaker 18:19, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Spellcheck
Maybe it's just the "American" spelling but isn't it "Theatre" not "Theater"? 124.148.160.197 14:05, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

This wiki uses American English.Sgt.Sandwich | Talk shop | Combat record  14:06, November 6, 2010 (UTC)

What are you trying imply with those quotes?

Leaked info
All mentions of "Redemption", "Rebirth," "Project Nova" and the achievment/troph list need removed. As the only confirmation we have of them is from a leaked achievment list. 76.4.78.222 14:11, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Project Nova does exist. You can watch the entire level being played at gameanyone.com. --LOST-The Cartographer 18:21, November 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thats even more leaked info but it was a good mission.Sgt Sprinkles 14:43, November 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Finished watching those vids, and Rebirth and Redemption also are levels. However there is also one in between called Revelation(s).  Can't wait to play it! --LOST-The Cartographer 01:18, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding Leaked Info
Can you please not delete any more leaked info? It's gonna be put back up in 2 days (depending on your time zone) anyway. On a side note, new zombie power up: http://au.gamespot.com/ps3/action/callofduty7workingtitle/show_msgs.php?topic_id=m-1-57022392&pid=960188. General Geers 09:07, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Sacrificial Lamb trophy
It sounds easy doesn't it? Kill six zombies after getting hit with a bolt from a PaP crossbow. The trick is, the PaP crossbow shoots red lasers that have the same effect as the Monkey Bomb. So by shooting somebody with said crossbow you are potentially damning them as all zombies will follow the marked player. 124.148.160.197 15:43, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Yep most PaP other weapons are support weapons but since its leaked we cant add that.Sgt Sprinkles 15:52, November 7, 2010 (UTC)

Black Ops Weapon Damage
Can anyone confirm the damage stats for Black Ops weapons are accurate?

Youre going to have to wait for the game to come out mate - littleNemo

Prestige Unlocks
Are these confirmed or leaked??? Or was this already leaked? http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/news/black-ops-multiplayer-info-week-44

I wonder what the difference between face tattoo and facepaint is... - Nomats3

all Black ops Prestige emblems from 1-15
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVc7nb3XJMQ here it is its likely real due the fact we have seen number 14 and 15 in gameplays - littleNemo

Black Ops jeep
After the n00b azuris wouldn't do it on IRC, I'm doing a formal request here.

Apparently, there is a special Call of Duty: Black Ops jeep on sale for $30k. Source here.

Anyone mind of adding that?  Commander W567123daniel Wanna Talk? 00:27, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

Price
How much does the hardened edition cost in Australian dollars? Hunter Steven 05:43, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

The game needs some additional information. First, you need to add a Nazi Germany or at least remants of nazi forces to the enemy list, as well as british commandos. You fight them both in an arctic level "Project Nova".

Also, large body of WW2 weapons are in the game, namely Mp40, Stg 44, Kar98k, Ppsh-41, Sten, Mossin-Nagant. At least they are in single player, so they are still in game. Regardless they are in multiplayer or not.

I have no idea what this has to do with the hardened editions price. Hunter Steven 08:44, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

WW2 elements in this game
This game features a nazi germans as enemies at the "Project Nova" level, you also fight british commandos. Its a flashback mission and it means loads of WW2 weapons are in the game as well. Like Mp40, Stg44, Mosin-Nagant, Ppsh-41, Sten gun.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5z_xScKj9g

The End that Marks a New Beginning
Well, here it is, with just 6 hours left until the game is released, all of us (or most of us) will finally get our hands on Call of Duty Black Ops. The last couple of months have really gone by really fast (as if you didn't know). Heck, it feels like yesterday when we heard Black Ops coming out this November 9th. Since their creation, our Black Ops articles have slowly grown with bits of information coming from here and there until they became the articles they are today. Countless users have provided the admins with new info, videos, correctional errors, pictures etc over the past few months to make the articles stand out from other websites crack at them. The end of all this however, will mark a new beginning. Our hard work doesn't end here, no; we now get to finally take Black Ops apart piece by piece to further expand our Black Ops related articles. So now, go play the game, enjoy yourself, send some zombies to their graves, and then get ready to come back and edit, because this wiki is gonna get crazy for the next few weeks, and remember, NO ONE EDITS ALONE!

Special thanks too all of those users who have helped expand all Black Ops related articles over the months. 23:17, November 8, 2010 (UTC)

right on!

if i could figure out how i'd give u a standing ovationGETreal 02:21, November 9, 2010 (UTC)

Fantastic speech! er... text, whatever. I am really hoping that this game is well balanced, I don't want it to end up like another game *cough* MW2 *cough.68.218.185.232 02:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)*

URA! Wii version will bring the fight to their land. Their blood. They will have a taste of what it feels like to be made fun of. No longer will we have to deal with it, Comrades. Lol. JK. I am really excited for the game. I really do want some scum zombies to stop cumming and die. Trayvin talk 00:44, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

sign the pettion at my talk for some exapsion packs butthead4

Black Ops Program Files
I just played my first session of black ops. Fantastic game but I'm a bit annoyed with steam support. Firstly the launch shortcuts are Internet shortcuts so my SP shortcut is just a white page with the Internet explored icon. Secondly, and the main reason I'm annoyed is that Steam hasn't followed the usual path of C:/Program Files/Activision/Black Ops so now I have know idea where the IWDs are and I want them cos they have the SFX files. Is there any way to make the installation path like the one above? I don't mind reinstalling but I want to avoid that if possible. IWD locations would be greatly appreciated. 124.148.160.197 11:13, November 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * c:/program files/steam/steamapps/common/black ops presumably? my copy for the pc is still in the post, rage levels ███████████████ 100% --Ashwilso12 15:31, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ashwilso12 is right. Steam saves files of games that, in my own words, "are from companies that are loosly connected to Valve, I.E. Activision, Bethesda, etc". You cannot change this, or Steam won't be able to read where your files are. Thusly, if you DID move it, you might be able to play Single Player, but no co-op or Multiplayer support is availible. DJRosetta 15:50, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * (PS: It's 'cause', not 'cos'. When you find the 'o' in 'because', I believe using that won't be a pet peeve of mine. :P)
 * Thanks. Also, "cause" has a different meaning. Its much clearer if you just say "cos". General Geers 11:03, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Zombies
So I was playing on Call of Duty 7 and I clicked on (spoiler) zombies. So it can up with this level in a theater and has modern weapons. It showed that they got put in the teleporter and disappeared. Did they go through time to modern or did they obtain other weapons. Also there is paintings of all the the past men and the zombies are alot faster. Finally if you buy a perk like quick revive (its in the first room for 500$) if you get down then you go down with a Akimbo C-3000 from Der riese but get back up. Plus it has two other maps which i havent played yet.

Andyfaulk 01:22, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

PC Glitch
Can somebody add something about the glitch where the game kidnaps all your CPU and everything lags like Crysis on a Commadore 64? I don't really know the specifics. General Geers 11:01, November 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * the whole game is a glitch on pc atm --Ashwilso12 12:53, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

NO PROGRESSION IN SPLITSCREEN
It's difficult to find this information online, and it needs to be in the article - there is no leveling or progression of any kind for splitscreen local play.

INTERACTIVE MENU SCREEN
I found out yesterday that you can actually look around in the menu screen by moving the Right Thumbstick. i just thought this was really intresting. if you look to the right, you see the screens seen on GKNOVA6.com. and if you look down you see a man that appears to have been recently tortured EDIT: i just found out that the man is Mason --Newraiden23 22:39, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Also if you press both bumpers then you can break free and move around. If you go to the computer and type in DOA then hit "enter" it brings you "dead ops" which is a arcade-type game. You also unlock an achievement.

And I don't think, in team deathmatch, that extra points for headshots and other bonuses will be added to the team's score. It is just normal team deathmatch with normal scoring.

Clean-up
With the release of the game, this article is in need of some major clean-up to be up to the same standard as our other game articles (ie. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2). I still see some information that has either been clarified by the release of the game, or completely incorrect. Additionally, a great deal of this page, as well as others, remains in the future tense. 18:09, November 11, 2010 (UTC)

controversy
i saw on the news and wikipedia that 1 day from release there was controversy saying that cuba condemed the game where they kill a castro double can somebody add this

Cuba has condemned the release of the game as it has special forces trying to kill a young Fidel Castro.[91][92] The Cubadebate website said it would also turn American children into sociopaths.[91][93]

Some critics have questioned events depicted in the single-player campaign stating that they push "the lines of good taste."[94] Among the noted scenes are the torture of a restrained prisoner and thesummary execution of unarmed, surrendering enemy combatants.[94] from wikipedia

battlepiplu 02:37, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

black ops multi player
the web site running black opps is rubbish you cant play with freinds when they send you an invite ggrrrrr

You cant invite friends to certain matches where boosting is common or something like that(free for all,wager matches...) 71.198.193.69 23:23, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Editing multiplayer options for split screen
I wanna know y with split screen i cant edit time limits, kills, or any of the emblems and stuff. Do i need the playstation network in order to do so

iranian embassy
treyarch said that there would be a level about that in close quarters will atleast i saw it on the main page and in talk session saying that this wad real (before release) how come it isnt in the game? - littleNemo

Treyarch NEVER said that, it was only speculation. I would have enjoyed it, though. (Posted by a ghosted)

Equipment in Weapon Templates?
Is there any particular reason why the equipment (Claymore, C4, Jammer, etc.) are not on the Black Ops weapon template? gamemasta424 Talk 02:30, November 18, 2010 (UTC)

Crossbow
does anyone know the name of the real life crossbow thats used in black ops

Crossbow
does anyone know the name of the real life crossbow thats used in black ops

Please add the Prestige Emblems 1 to 15 (PICTURE HERE!)
http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w226/jacko_058/d482c78994.png

Also remember to sign up to www.nextgenupdate.com

1 of 100,000 laser cel?
I just opened my Black Ops copy and found that it had a 1 of 100,000 laser cel. Has anyone else gotten one, and why have I never heard of this yet?

SamSniped 12:42, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

What? Slowrider7 13:19, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

From http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/09/14/black-ops-pre-order-bonuses/ - "Pre-ordering Black Ops with Amazon will earn you a limited edition laser cel. For those unfamiliar with the term, a laser cel is an image that is printed on Mylar (or Melinex, as it is called in the UK) rather than paper or another easily damageable material." Apparently, it only comes with the first 100,000 pre-order copies. SamSniped 16:12, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

Campaign
For the campaign pages, shouldn't we use the pictures that show up when you pick that mission in the game? 68.9.251.140 22:57, November 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's a good question, actually. We used to, but eventually came to the conclusion that we can show of the wiki's talent for capturing pictures better by adding a really good one rather than the template picture supplied. We still use them on multiplayer though, it's easier to identify maps that way. Smuff [ The cake is a lie.  ] 23:00, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

what
the heck is the co-op campain about

Zombies, and sign your posts. IIID Empire 15:05, Nov.21,10

Perk/class images for all factions
I decided to take screenshots of all 8 multiplayer factions character models; they are here in an imageshack album if anyone wants to use them here on the wiki. They're completely free to use by anyone for whatever means. Here's the album: http://img80.imageshack.us/g/arcticspetsnaz.jpg/

--Pyrosity 21:18, November 22, 2010 (UTC)

Ranked Leaderboard
Multiplayer leaderbard:

Does anyone know what a "ranked match" means? For example, it says that in monthly leaderboard you must compete in 25 ranked matches to have your stats show on the list, and for weekly its 5, all time its 50. I played 4 straight hard core ffa games and for monthly it stayed at 23 games played?

does this have anything to do with me not prestiging and staying at 50? any insight?

Theatre Mode
Can sombody with editor rights to the main page please link a Theatre Mode page, please? I'd like to add a description of how to use this feature and how to export movies out of the game. Thanks

Won't Back Down?
Shouldn't "Won't Back Down" by Eminem have a page like the other musical easter eggs? I noticed it had a page earlier that got deleted. gamemasta424 Talk 20:04, November 24, 2010 (UTC)

Zombie Maps
Quick question: I am getting the WaW zombie maps soon. When I download it, can my friends, who don't have the maps, play the WaW maps with me?--With care and happiness,  Supermutantslayer450' YOU. LOSE. 00:16, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, I've tried this before. it will boot your friends from the lobby. IIID Empire 17:26, Nov.26,10

FAMAS and AUG an outrage?
Does anyone else agree that the FAMAS and AUG should have damage reductions? For example: The Galil and the FAMAS kill in the same number of bullets in core modes. The difference being: The FAMAS fires nearly 200 rounds per minute faster. This also applies to the AUG. Does this seem inbalanced?

If you are going to complain about those, complain about the AKs-74u.12:16, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Guest
Does black ops support microsoft guest? Hunter Steven 23:34, November 27, 2010 (UTC)

Who is the woman from Black Ops?
emmanuelle chriqui

that smoking lady is in intro video, broadcasting numbers, and in the mission U.S.D.D. you pass by a woman smoking, and the game then goes into a slowmotion view, and then the females voice starts broadcasting numbers again.

You can see her here.

Also, it's suggested that she's the one who was announcing numbers. 188.120.234.45 04:45, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

The woman that is seen smoking in U.S.D.D. is named Sarah. And I think the other woman is the one girl (I forget her name) that brodcast on her own radio signal to U.S. troops; telling them that they can't win and playing Anit-War music. Conqueror of all Zombies 03:21, November 30, 2010 (UTC)

Stealth?
"Black Ops features considerably more stealth than any other entry in the Call of Dutyseries."

I beg to differ, in MW2 you have a lot more stealth than Black Ops. In MW2 you have the first half of "Cliffhanger", the first half of "Contingency", the first part of "Just Like Old Times" and the beginning of "The Only Easy Day... Was Yesterday". Black Ops has the first part of "WMD", the first part of "Victor Charlie" and some minor moments at the beginning of "Operation 40", "Executive Order" and "Rebirth". In MW2 you also had the Spec Ops missions "Hidden", "Evasion" and "Acceptable Losses"

In my opinion you are hidden for a longer time in MW2, you kill more ememies while hidden; "Modern Warfare 2 features considerably more stealth than any other entry in the Call of Dutyseries."

TheOnlySimen 23:27, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nearly all of the levels in BO are stealth-related. YuriKaslov 23:30, November 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * Except for "WMD", "Victor Charlie" and "Rebirth", none of the levels are stealth related, it is open firefights, choppers, boats, motorcycles and miniguns. Their is very little stealth in Black Ops. TheOnlySimen 12:22, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, nearly all of the levels had stealth in them. Conqueror of all Zombies 03:18, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just saying it has stealth does not make it so. Examples halp get the point across. So...
 * Black Ops
 * 1) Operation 40: began as a stealth mission, eroded shorty after
 * 2) Executive Order: began as a stealth mission, again cover blown shorty after
 * 3) Victor Charlie: stealth elements, not a stealth mission.
 * 4) WMD: stealth maintained for decent time, longest instance of stealth in the game
 * 5) Rebirth: sneaking around for 5 minutes, little stealth
 * Modern Warfare 2
 * 1) Cliffhanger: begins as stealth mission, cover blown ~halfway through
 * 2) The Only Easy Day...Was Yesterday: began as stealth, cover blown a few minutes in
 * 3) Contingency: begins as stealth mission, cover blown ~1/3 through mission
 * 4) Loose Ends: attempt stealth mission, but fails at beginning
 * 5) The Enemy of My Enemy: the entire mission, up until the end, can be played in stealth
 * 6) Just Like Old Times: stealth mission, maintained until ~1/3 in
 * Now, this is just campaign, since this is where the statement is directed. Missions not listed may include stealth elements since...it's the smart thing to do in war. But, looking at this, it's not correct to say Black Ops features "considerably" more stealth than MW2, or any CoD game. Hell, Black Ops campaign was one big Michael Bay movie... Automechtech1 06:59, November 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok...
 * 1) Only Easy Day wasn't too stealthy. Large explosions and almost being seen by a Little Bird isn't stealth
 * 2) How the hell is Loose Ends stealthy at all?
 * 3) Scilencers don't mean stealth
 * That makes Black Ops with the most stealth. Conqueror of all Zombies 06:01, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Did you even play MW2 or Black Ops? I don't think you even read anything I said, because I said Loose Ends was an "attempt" at a stealth mission. And if you look at the time spent in stealth rather than attemtping to match the points on a "every mission is equal" basis, you'd realize that Black Ops features almost no stealth. However, I really don't care if you think Black Ops is the most stealthy game since Metal Gear Solid 4, but the important thing is that the original quote is absent from the page. Automechtech1 07:56, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Did you even play MW2 or Black Ops? I don't think you even read anything I said, because I said Loose Ends was an "attempt" at a stealth mission. And if you look at the time spent in stealth rather than attemtping to match the points on a "every mission is equal" basis, you'd realize that Black Ops features almost no stealth. However, I really don't care if you think Black Ops is the most stealthy game since Metal Gear Solid 4, but the important thing is that the original quote is absent from the page. Automechtech1 07:56, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Synopsis
In the start of the article it would be good to have a short summary of what the game is actually about:Answer the question: ' what is Black Ops?' here.

Nice article nonetheless!

Wiebren Munk

question
how the hell can i play the co-op campain?Butthead4 18:41, December 4, 2010 (UTC)

mrmorozov987: This isn't the forum. Besides, they announced a couple months they were cancelling the co-op campaign mode. Play some zombies.

will
there be an expansion pack?Butthead4 16:57, December 5, 2010 (UTC) Butthead4

Could we add something to the Wii section of Black Ops?
One difference between the Wii and other consoles not listed on the main page for Black Ops is that, in the 15th and last level called "Redemption," the 360/PS3/PC versions start out with the player controlling a helicopter and destroying targets located around the ship. Then, the helicopter gets shot down and the player is forced to bail out. On the Wii version, however, the level immediately starts out with the player jumping out of the copter.

I don't know who is able to edit the page for Black Ops, but to whoever can, it'd be great if you could add this. Here's links to the different versions as proof:

360: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edGme93Sdv8

Wii: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1re8UF1kfoE

UPDATE: I just wanted to give a huge thank you to whomever updated the main page with my info.

russian attachements
im seeing awful lot of trivia on ak 47 rpk and dragunov and ak 74u and kiparis first of all the infared acope and acog scope are different because THEY ARE REAL LIFE ACOGS THAT WERE MADE FOR THE AK FAMILY sure kiparis may be russian but its not from the ak family and those scopes were made only for them treyarch didnt just choose that they get unique scopes like they didnt chose that aug will be an assault rifle HBAR stands for heavy barrel remember THE AK FAMILY HAS UNIQUE IR AD ACOG SCOPES - littleNemo
 * Cool story bro. YuriKaslov 16:52, December 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * This is how you do it:Coolstorybro.gif]][[file:Menu mp weapons colt.png.Sandwich | Talk shop | Combat record [[file:Emblem-burgertown.jpg|30px]] 16:56, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Intel locations
Do you think you can show where you can find the intel pieces in each of the missions?Makarov29 06:51, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Wii
I think that we should add the fact that on the Wii, numerous problems have been occurring. This has also happened to me three days ago, and when I googled it, I found out it has been happening to A LOT of Wii users. The CD is too heavy for the Wii's laser, causing it to overwork itself to read the disc, which then causes the laser to stop functioning completely. This leads to the Wii's RRoD, which is the 'An error occurred, please press the Eject button and refer to Wii manual for further instruction." Maj. Blackout 03:21, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe by saying Call of Duty: Black Ops causes many problems for the Wii including laser overload. Or something like that. Sniper team  82308  03:25, January 5, 2011 (UTC)