Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Error in information
It it stated that to unlock the Fall camoflague that you need 200 headshots, but it is actually 250. This needs to be rectified. 92.11.26.34 21:41, November 19, 2009 (UTC) Earth090

yup some idiot did that

Fox News to tackle MW2
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/11/10/tivo-alert-fox-news-tackle-mw2

Well... It was bound to happen eventually... They're going to have a field day with No Russian, I just know it.--WouldYouKindly 02:44, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

yah, my local news station had a part on the game saying it's bad to release the game before rememberence day. Also they interviewed ww2 soliders about the game. 02:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Theyre probably gonna connect this with the Fort hood shooting in some really stupid way... --Slowrider7 04:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, knowing these TV stations, they will do that. They love the idea of things like this happening, like the GTA influencing people to go and kill real police officers. They love the idea of the bullet theory, (for anyone who knows what I am talking about). Attack Rhino 04:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Bullet theory = You can get away with more in a game than IRL? --Slowrider7 04:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * No, no no. Sorry, might be a bit out of you depth. It is also known as the hypodermic needle theory.

This is the general theory:


 * the messages from anything that is watched, heard or read is shot from a gun or injected from a needle into the audiences' mind. This means that any message that is presented in any media text (book, TV show, film, radio program or even game) and directly absorbed by the people in the audience. This then means that any possible ideas conveyed will be taken by the audience, such as an example of a little kid watching Superman on the TV, he then want so dress up in the costume and promptly fly like his hero, by jumping off the roof of his house. Another example is that of people wanting to, or acting out things that happen in the GTA games, like killing police officers and stealing TAXI's and other cars. There is also the ideas that Doom was the reason why the Columbine High School massacre happened, of course that is not the reason, but this al leads back o the fact that is says that people might see something violent on the TV or play a violent game, and then want to act out those events from the game or show in real life.

That was but a small taste of what this theory is about. I think that is the reason why FOX NEWS and other programs and station would jump on the idea of pointing the finger at IW for the No Russian level in the game. Attack Rhino 06:33, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Surprisingly, none of the Aussie news stations have said anything (postitive or otherwise) about MW2. That kind of amazed me, knowing Win News (for those who've seen the 'Jeff Goldbloom is dead thing, youtube it) they'll get a lot of shite wrong about this game....No field days over here, yet.... Cpt. Carebear

I wonder how the Anon will take the news... not that they have any special interest in MW2 but they have a real axe to grind with Fox News. OmgHAX! 06:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

What would you expect from Fox News? They claimed Mass Effect had an interactive sex scene, and instead of apologizing and correcting their "mistake," they invited the devs to the show so they could explain what it really was. All it's for is airtime, ratings, and most of all, money. Chief z 09:08, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Of course, it's always for the ratings and the money....even if it pisses off a shit load of people. Sometimes, even though I'm Aussie, I'd wish fox news would keep its bullshitting mouth shut for once. Seriously, I believe earlier this year they stated, and I quote "Prime Minister Kevin Rudd is planning to airstrike the camels in outback Australia, saying there's billions of dollars worth of meat out there." There's two reasons why that news segment was effed up: One, why would you waste weaponary on bombing camels when it could be used for better perposes, LIKE SAY A WAR. And two, why would there be billions of dollars worth of meat out there, we get more for selling them. God, and on a side note, I hate it how some people say Australia, they say it like their trying to be bogan or something. Cpt. Carebear

You know, I think I recall some no-name politician tried blaming 9/11 on Halo: Combat Evolved when if fact, it came out after Sept. 11. I guess that's videogame politics for you; we're an easy scapegoat that ultra right-wingers love to take shots at, but when it comes to the facts, they'll just toss it out window and make their opinions the truth. You know who they should send to Fox? Adam Sessler. He would totally school them and make them shut their mouths. Chief z 15:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-nOCy7FfE

Not only did they completely misrepresent the game, but the guy defending the game sounds like a complete idiot. I hate FOX News. --WouldYouKindly 02:53, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I could barely watch the thing. They make it sound like MW2 will turn the next generation of Americans into terrorists. I guess I'll go play some SpecOps now. (I did Overwatch and Big Brother with my cousin; holy shit it was badass.) Chief z 03:27, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Rockert?
So I was playing the game and I noticed that the character named Rockert who is actually named Rocket. But here's the problem, he dies and is replaced by somebody else with another name which means he is just a name in a random name generator, in other words, he is not an important character. The same problem my also have happened with Doc, but I can't confirm anything. I was just wondering if somebody can take Rocket's name out of the list completely. Lotsi 03:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

is he from TF 141? if he is then he is significant because there is a limited number of them but if he is a ranger than he probably is just a random name generator. if he is from TF 141 then look for him in the picture shown at the end of the credits of the whole task force (similar to the picture of gaz, price, vazquez, and griggs shown at the end of the COD 4)

What I meant was, Rocket is not important to the storyline in any way. He has no known background, story or personality, the only thing he has going for him is a name. Now I'm fine with him being in the list of TF 141 soldiers, but I don't think he belongs in the character section on the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 page. Lotsi 02:35, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

He is a character, and the more seen will be and stay there.Doc.Richtofen 15:58, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

PC info please
so can anyone now PLEASE tell me if there are any prestige weapons for sure? I know I'm being a nuissance but I just gotta have my M1911 OmgHAX! 05:58, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * don't worry, you will find out anyway. By the way, I like the .45 more anyway. Attack Rhino 06:35, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

the .45? The M1911 IS a .45 ACP weapon :P 195.35.143.19 11:11, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ooops, sorry. I meant the USP .45 instead. By the way, they use the same ammo, oh well. Attack Rhino 22:29, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Steam?
Ok seriously i got the game today and its taking for ever to download after i installed it on steam therefore i cannot play the game until it finishes seriously how long did it take foe everyone elses to download? SLAUGHTERER 23:37, November 11, 2009 (UTC).

I have it on steam too, but it doesn't unlock till midnight tonight. MrJoe95 14:25, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean it doesn't unlock until 12:00 at midnight. SLAUGHTERER 23:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC).

Weapons only available in singleplayer?
So, I've been reading up on MW2, and on this wiki, it says that several weapons are only available in singleplayer. Why would IW do this? If you're going to have the guns programmed into the game anyway, why not put them in multiplayer? I'm especially pissed because this happened to one of my favorite guns, the G3. Broeman 11:06, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah that sucks, I love the G3 too. But I suppose it's because there's a lot more verity in the weapons available. It's like when you only try one thing because you only know it. Maybe their promting us to use more guns, I'm a little disappointed that the Dragunov's not gonna be in MP but I'll enjoy using the other sniper rifles as well. Cpt. Carebear

Maybe Infinity Ward didn't included them in multiplayer because adding the G3 and the FAL (a similar weapon) doesn't make a lot of sense. Both weapons are similar, but Infinity Ward prefered the FAL because it is new to the series and is much more known to people than the G3. Each weapon is balanced to be different from others, imaging if the game includes the AK-47 and the AK-103 (a newer model), how will IW make them unique from each other? Don't worry, the FAL is the replacement of the G3 in MP with probably the same stats. - SMG097HC

True, I think it's better to have a newer, more updated version of a gun than to have two that are closely related to eachother. Really good point SMG Cpt. Carebear

M16, forgot the rest. but i noticed it a few times in singleplayer but have not seen it listed anywhere in multiplayer.

The M16 is available on the 40th level in multiplayer. Anyway, I miss the M1911.--OutlawODST

Triple-A
I think the Russian anti-aircraft gun is a Tungunska, but I haven't seen one close enough to tell. Can anyone verify? OmgHAX! 15:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Multiplayer
When I go on multiplayer, it comes with a box saying "Connecting to Matchmaking Server...". It's being going for about 15 minutes trying to connect and I'm really disappointed. Has this happened to anyone else? Ashdude01 20:01


 * The PS3 connection server is down due to overload. The 3rd party company that runs the server is currently trying to fix this problem. 72.195.147.117 21:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yeh I got that same message 22:12, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Is it happening to the PC ones as well because i want to play it when i get home today.SLAUGHTERER 23:36, November 11, 2009 (UTC).
 * MP is working fine on the PC. Darkman 4 23:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well thats a Relief thanks Darkman i appreciate bro. By the way do you have it on pc? because if you do talk to me on me talk page and i can give you my steam Name and you can add me if you want. SLAUGHTERER 23:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC).

can someone put the weapon classes for multiplayer on please i haven't bought the game yet and i want to know them

PC
Does anyone know why there are two dics in the PC version?? When i actualy put in the 2nd dics it dosen't do anything except the computer saying it can't find anything.... What is it for?? --Colonel Swede 21:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

can someone put the selectable weapon classes for multiplayer on please i haven't bought the game yet and i want to know them

Original CoD
Um, have any of you who got the prestige or hardened edition of the game downloaded the original CoD with that code. And did it work? Can you play the game 22:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * I finally got around to playing it yesterday. It works great except that they make you use the old button setup (hard on people like me who prefer Tactical). It comes with 200 points worth of Achivements, all of which seem pretty easy. I've only played the first couple levels though, because I felt like going back to Modern Warfare 2.  Captain Baird  Comm-LinkService Record 16:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

ah thats good, Im haveing trouble downloading it for ps3 tho. I enter the code and it takes me too the ps store. I click down full game rather than demo and it starts but it takes really quick wich is wierd. Then when I go to play the game, it's not there. 21:15, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

soap
is soap's real first name john

No but Price first name is John.... John Price as revealed in the game --Colonel Swede 23:15, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

then what is soap's real name (and its not soap because when seen in the game it is always "soap" mactavish which means its a nickname)

It is Soap Mactavish. --99.8.47.225 23:59, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * No it's not. His first name isn't "Soap", it's a nickname. Many characters in the game have this such as "Meat". I know I saw Soap's first name somewhere, trying to find it 72.195.147.117 00:48, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think somewhere earlier it was revealed as "John" in CoD4, but whether it was true or not is unknown. PhantBat 11:44, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

John "Soap" MacTavish

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3
Will there be a Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 I was just thinking this because of the end of CodMW2 when Price and Soap get away on Nikolis Heli.

Also when the Rangers take back Whiskey Hotel they talk about launching a counter attack against russia.... --Colonel Swede 23:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Almost certainly. The ending sets up a sequel perfectly.--WouldYouKindly 23:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

The fact that Soap and Price become war criminals seems like they're going to fight underground now, no longer with UN support. Makarov's still alive, too. I hope IW brings them back in a convincing way. OmgHAX! 23:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

There damn well better be a Modern Warfare 3. I hate cliffhangers. Except the mission. That was a great mission. 02:36, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

MW2 showed exactly how to do a cliffhanger (I'm looking at you Halo 2) even though I hate them. At least with this one I had a huge sense of satisfaction. How you kill him was fucking amazing. Chief z 03:30, November 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that was probably the most badass kill I've ever seen in a game. DarkSPC.pngSpc. SoLAXD(m) Talk 04:08, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I wrote in my blog about a MW3, I think it was all planned, IW is trying to unseat HALO as the greatest video game trilogy of all time. We should have a suggestion section in the forum. Great way to end the second part though. PhantBat 11:42, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I hope MW3 tells us how Price got in that prison,and a lot of other things between mw1 and mw2. 01:58, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think that soap and price will join kamarov and the loyalists from cod4 to take back russia and gain the UN's support Supermaverick5 07:31, November 14, 2009 (UTC)Supermaverick5

do you think they'll have a flamethrower like waw?

Actually, there may not be a cod:mw3, as a lot of us players won't buy the game if they here that towards the end you kill delta force style U.S. troops as an S.A.S man.--Slacky!!! 14:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

I had been thinking of this since the first archive! Look in the first trailer. before the big 2 lights up there is a 3 right next to it. No Coincidence. --Joem25 15:08, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

campaign
The levels are not in chronological order. The mission where you must get to the White House is directly after the level where Price launches the bomb.   Critchell   Sniper  00:43, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I just fixed the order, it looks somewhat like the order in the game. Lotsi 03:00, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

9.5
Guess what? Gametrailers came out with a review on Modern warfare 2 and gave them a 9.5! Wow! In truth I thought they would give them a lower score, with the lack of dedicated servers on the PC and stuff like that. This game is awesome!

Here's a link:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-modern-warfare/58370

Random Man 0213 01:34, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Raptor
I'm having some trouble figuring out who this "Raptor" fellow is. In Wolverines! the objective is to respond to the Russian invasion and all of a sudden it's like "There's Raptor! Let's go save him!" I'm thinking he's some Russian informant because right next to him in the meat locker is an AK-47. Then in Exodus the murdered HVI was killed by what seemed to be the same NPC models from No Russian (suits with combat vests). Chief z 03:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think the HVI was one of Shepherd's people from Shadow Company, since the HVI's bodyguards were wearing the same uniforms as Shadow Company. As far as Raptor goes, I have no idea who he was. PhantBat 11:42, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'm going to go edit those two pages because whoever wrote it thought they were the same person. Chief z 12:53, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

2 Discs PC
Ok When i bought the game i had opened it and i saw 2 discs and i said what the F*** is this. Whats the 2nd disc meant to be for? i haven't tried it yet and i sure won't try it as i am to busy playing online multiplayer then looking at what the second disc is. Anyone know what it's meant to be for? SLAUGHTERER 11:47, November 12, 2009 (UTC)>

No offence, but what do you think its for? its for installing the game... its not like its uncommon, esp considering cod6 is 11gig --Ashwilson12 16:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

You need both discs to install the game. At least I did, and every PC gaming friend I have. Have you actually played the game yet? You shouldn't have been able to even complete the installation without the use of both discs. Not all of the game files are contained on the first disc. 00:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The first Disc is for Installing single player and multiplayer but the second disc isn't for anything as i haven't tried it yet so basically the first disc is to install both single player and multiplayer. SLAUGHTERER 23:59, November 12, 2009 (UTC).

mistake in trivia section
Early in the trivia section its stated that there is a motorcycle in the hardened edition art book strongly hinting toward it in the campaign but in the book they say they went through many ideas of chase scenes before they came up with the snowmobile chase. It probably means they were thinking about using a motorcycle chase instead of snowmobile and the picture is just concept art.

modern warfare 2
Does Modern warfare 2 take place in the year 2016? because i think i herd someone say that it takes place in that year and Modern warfare took place in 2011? is that right? SLAUGHTERER 11:46, November 12, 2009 (UTC).

Yes. Chief z 12:51, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thats pretty cool. SLAUGHTERER 03:52, November 13, 2009 (UTC).

Intel Pieces???
Can anyone tell me what the intels in MW2 are used for? I collected all 45 of them and there is no "Cheats" menu or something. Or do you have to complete the SP on all difficulties to unlock that? If not, what is their use? 92.229.122.203 23:25, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

From what I can tell, it may be only used for achievements/trophies. I haven't collected them all yet, so I can't be sure. Did you check the options menu? That's where it was in CoD4. Chief z 03:45, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was wondering if the intel locations have been posted, couldn't find them on the page.

yeah... can they post the classes that you don't make yourself as well like the ghost and war fighter on cod4.

I'm looking up achievement hunter for intel locations. OmgHAX! 20:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

spec ops
do u have to beat the game to unlock it or is it available at the beginning of the game

Its available from the start. Its completely seperate from campaign. OmgHAX! 01:51, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I have a question. I am going to buy this game this weekend,, but my dad was wondering if it would work for an 80 Gig ps3. I think it will, but I wanted to make sure. AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield 02:14, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Of course it will, the gig size does not make a difference. Doc.Richtofen 16:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up. Now i can tell my dad to stop worrying. :)AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield 21:49, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

can two people play co-op spec ops on the same xbox split screen

Yes. You click Spec Ops and the Splitscreen, and it'll let you play to player on the same Xbox.

Hey guys, try this SP weapon set out.
Glock 18 + Akimbo Mini Uzi. Loads of fun. (If you cant tell I just got my game, thank god for generous bosses paying early! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!) --Slowrider7 03:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

do u think UMP.45 + ranger akimbo would be good?

Akimbo on what gun? I havent tried the Ranger yet, but no not the UMP. Try Akimbo MP5K. --Slowrider7 04:29, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

akimbo on ranger the sawed off shotgun thingy

what about vector rds + ranger with akimbo scavenger, stopping power and ninja. can u get grip on pistols and ranger??????

MW2 shatters records, and other news
We all saw this coming. Modern Warfare 2 has the biggest launch sales in history across all forms of entertainment. To put that in perspective, GTA IV grossed $310M worldwide in it's first day. MW2 matched that in the US and UK alone. The Dark Knight opened with $150M and Halo 3 made $300M in its first week. PS3 servers crashed due to the influx (there's the explanation for you PS3 guys).

Among other news, Micrsoft is bringing out the Banhammer on users who've modded their Xbox to play pirated discs (although some were wrongfully banned). And my favorite, an Austrailian military bomb-sniffing dog is found after 14 months MIA by US forces and returned alive and well.

Links: Chief z 04:06, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * MW2 record: http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/-modern-warfare-2-breaks-day-one-entertainment-sales-record/1372471
 * Xbox bans:http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/wave-of-bans-hits-xbox-live/1372276
 * MIA dog:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_as/as_australia_afghan_retreiver_returns

Damn, that is awesome news about the dog. Attack Rhino 06:08, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hey the game was in my opinion the most anticipated game of '09 this was proven when the game was pre-ordered by 3 million people for all systems and sold 4.7 million copies of the game in the first 24 hours!!!Supermaverick5 07:36, November 14, 2009 (UTC)Supermaverick5

Cool news about the dog, always good to hear our doggie diggers are alive and well....and you slept Australia wrong, And I so totally knew the MW2 would kick Halo's arse. GO COD SERIES! :D Cpt. Carebear 9:21PM (AEST)


 * Sorry about that. But yeah, I always like stories about military dogs. I watched a special on the Military Channel about a Marine in Afghanistan who found a dog after a battle. He adopted it and sent it home to his wife. Very touching. Chief z 12:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It's good to hear some good stories that come out of war, though maybe, sometimes (I think), there should be more about what's actually going on...and not about the bullshit politicians who are trying to get a pay rise. That's all we hear, Ruddy saying "We will not pledge anymore troops to the war." Man he sucks, this is coming from a 14 year old kid too. Cpt. Carebear

AA-12
Just to let you know i have fixed up the level you unlock the AA-12 shotgun for your secondary weapon as it was incorrect and it has now been put to the correct level. Hopefully that's the right level i am 100% sure it is anyway. Anyways just to let you's all know so that people don't freak out and say who changed this and stuffed it up blah blah blah. SLAUGHTERER 15:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC).

MATCH CLASSES
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE WEAPON cLASSES FOR MULTIPLAYER AND ALSO THE ONES THAT AREN'T ON XBOX LIVE AND STUFF.

please

yeah sum 1 shud aye! liambobjobs 8:42 November 14 2009

why don't you do it?

cant i havnt got it yet :( liambobjobs 8:47 November 14 2009

o nether have i. i gonna get it thursday

sum1 should put them on!!! liambobjobs 10;47 November 15 2009

put them on!!!!!!!!!

yeeah put them on! liambobjobs 3:31 November 15 2009

yaaaaay put them on

Uhmm just a quick notice please sign when you are finished writing in a talk page as it hard to know who is talking if it is just one person or the other. so remember to sign please. SLAUGHTERER 11:07, November 15, 2009 (UTC).

Ok then callofdutynut2 4:21 November 2009

Gold Weapons?
Is there Gold Weapons in Modern warfare 2?SLAUGHTERER 04:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC).

i thought the fall camouflage was replacing it

None that I can find... But Urban camo is just as good if not better than gold. Slowrider7

I have Urban camo after all the hard work trying to get to 30 headshots but i can really aim because of my computer on my tv screen i really want it of there it was my mums idea not mine. SLAUGHTERER 11:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC).

Ign Review
http://pc.ign.com/articles/104/1043744p1.html - They gave it a 9.5 out of ten. Though, they didn't take too kindly on the short, rushed single player campaign. 13:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Prestige goggles
Finnaly got 'em and they are sweet:) Real NVGs! Only downside is visual restriction, but doesn't matter! They are great!--Slacky!!! 13:53, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * There's a knob in the front by the camera for focusing, and once their focused they're freakin' amazing. --Joem25 22:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

sons of Bit**** can i have a go please lol i want to see what they are like badly. SLAUGHTERER 08:30, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

if you use pro on a perk do you get the normal perk aswell?
i was wondering if you use a perk with pro is the pro and non pro one perk?

Yes, you get the benefits of both perks. The Gamer 13 22:51, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

thanks it inst really made clear on the wiki and some of the pro parts of the perk seem worse than the normal part of it

I was wondering the same thing. I ,however, have a glitch with my Commando perk where I run out of sprint after a while.--OutlawODST

but commando is faster melee and pro is vault obstacles faster.

You guys are retarded MARATHON is infinite sprint, MARATHON PRO is vaulting obstacles faster, and COMMANDO PRO makes you immune to FALL DAMAGE. CoD addictCoD addict

DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD post the classes that you don't make yourself as well like the ghost and war fighter on cod4.THE OFFLINE CLASSES THAT YOU DON'T CUSTOMIZE YOURSELF.

are you the one that did the other match class thing? liambobjobs 2:59 November 2009

maybe...

lol liambobjobs 3:13 November 2009

TAR-21
Well I have to say this is my favorite gun, but the reason I am posting this is because it seems to have extremely high damage for an automatic assault rifle. Especially with stopping power, this gun is unstoppable. Anyone else seeing this? 11:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The LSW also seems to be very powerful compared to other machine guns. I'm trying to figure out the damage of these guns through trial and error. I think the TAR's damage is 40-30, as it only requires 1 hit at any range in hardcore, and that it seems to kill in 2 hits at close range with stopping power in core. 11:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I like the TAR-21 too! :) I also like the UMP .45, the SCAR-H, M4A1, and all the LMGs...

I haven't tried the TAR-21, even though I unlocked it. I don't know, but the SCAR-H is has this hold on me; high stopping power and the ironsights kick ass. That thing totally wrecks, and now that I got Scavenger Pro and most of the attachments (missing extended mags) it's even better. I'm averaging top 3 in Team Death. But I guess I'll try it out, seems to get great praise (402 says it's his favorite gun). Chief z 11:49, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

NATO
I began thinking yesterday. When Russia attacked the US why didn't NATO help them? Isen't NATO a military pact between the US and several other countries??

it takes time to send troops

I always wish they would show what Canada did. Like, i don't think Canada would just stand there and be like "meh, the US is gettin attacked. Whatevs". And i agree. NATO would get their ass over there ASAP


 * How much time is it between first contact and the EMP from the missile? Attack Rhino 05:18, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I've been thinking the same thing, since NATO would possibly help the US, unless it bought the Airport attack as a covert US strike or just wanted to "sit this one out". I think if there is a MW3 I think we would see NATO involvement. PhantBat 12:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

split screen
is there split screen for spec ops

yes, on consoles OhDeeEsTee 15:28, November 17, 2009 (PST)

A way to get the PC version to work on multiple computers if you have bought the game
I am not sure if this will 100% work but i am trying it tonight.If in your house or you have friends that want the game then this might work.You install the game on your own steam account.So this is the only account that your copy of MW2 will work on as it is registered to steam once installed.On someones elses computer(Friends or family that want a copy and dont want to pay for it) you log onto your steam account and download the game to that computer.Then you go onto the internet and download the non steam fix which enables you to play the game without logging onto steam.Im not sure if multiplayer will work with non steam fix but it might.I will post tommorow if this works or not and hopefully it does.I recommend downloading the non steam fix from Gamecopyworld. ?Whipsnap? 19:38, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

MP Map List
One of the maps is listed as 'Uprise'.. I'm fairly positive it is called 'Highrise'.

Small change. Actually, probably would have been quicker for me to register and change it myself! sorry.

I'll have all of the weapon stats within a week or two
Also, sorry for my recent inactivity, but, you know. Oh, and I already hit 20 kills in a game of Hardcore Search. :) Imrlybord7 08:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thats epic what level are you because i am a level 35 ;) lol SLAUGHTERER 08:26, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

I'm a level 53. My stats are awful though because I suck at everything except SnD, which I just started playing. Imrlybord7 14:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Voice Actors section update
Someone should add General Shepard voiced by Lance Henriksen, he is another popular actor best known for his work in the Alien series. 68.37.225.92 08:15, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Special Ops
Just something about allthe Special Ops levels.

Are they really necessary on the main page of the game? I mean, sure, we should have an overview, and a link to the main Special Ops page if there isn't already one, but I'm just not sure the names and descriptions of all the levels are necessary.

Modern warfare 3?
Is there going to be a thing such as modern warfare 3? i would just like to know thats all. SLAUGHTERER 09:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

Don't ask that. The answer is too obvious. --SSDGFCTCT9 11:21, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing there is going to be a third one am i correct? SLAUGHTERER 20:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

I think that soap and price will join kamarov and the loyalists from cod4 to take back russia and gain the UN's support Supermaverick5 06:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC)Supermaverick5

Raptor - Wolverines! VIP
There seems to be a heap of confusion over who this codename "Raptor" is. Some are saying he's the president, some say he's a Russian from "No Russians", and on the whole people are saying he could be part of the senate, a member of cabinet, a commando solider or a general.

There seems to be a vibe that he's an important guy, with him becoming the teams primary objective. So obviously he isn't a random civvie or something. What is the verdict of Russian/American/British? Could someone post a picture of him? [Play out Wolverines! for five minutes to reach him in the meat locker.

Finally, his helicopter has the insignia of the 23rd Infantry, so maybe that is a clue?

- I don't think we can use the chopper for any evidence, as it also has the Air Combat Command insignia and says US Air Force on the side. The only thing that indicates any sort of affiliation is that you find and AK-47 next to him. I've done some CSIing in the game, and here's what I found: Chief z 11:41, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * AK-47 next to Raptor
 * HVI in "Exodus" seems to have been killed by someone he trusted ("No signs of forced entry"). Russian troop in the hallway has same tattoos as Makarov's men in "No Russian." There's also bloody footprints leading away from the panic room and the troop.
 * Shepherd wants both men secured; they possibly have evidence of his scheme.
 * Briefcase in "Exodus" contains unknown contents, possibly evidence.
 * Raptor can't be the prez: when Foley's squad reaches the bunker in "Second Sun" Dunn says "I hope they got out in time." Surely he would have not have mentioned them if Raptor was the prez. (If Raptor was the prez, Dunn would have recognized him since Foley ordered him to check Raptor.)

- Cheers Chief, if you have it on PC could you get a screenshot of his face? Would help his page and can easily be taken when prone and in his lap lol.

Your ideas makes sense mate, but does the presence of an AK-47 mean anything? Just wondering to be honest, and also going by what you're saying, do you think he's an American that knows too much and a target from Shepard, someone who could have been killed like the bloke in Exodus? -

Unfortunatley, I use the Xbox and I don't have a capture card (but going prone is how I got a closeup of the tattoos, hehe). However, I'll ask some people on the site to get some pics. As far as Raptor and the unnamed VIP go, I'm thinking they're Russian informants with connections to Makarov. If Makarov knew who this unnamed VIP is, it would explain how one of his men knew where to find him. Raptor, on the other hand, has much less evidence going for him. If he is Russian, it would explain the presence of the AK-47 next to him. It could have been picked up from the battlefield (Take this! Defend yourself! etc.), but I have a theory: when you start in Wolverines!, paratroopers are just beginning to land. There wouldn't have been enough time for them to regroup and converge on the Burger Town, much less with Rangers defending it (When you turn into the alley after you smoke the BTR, Russians seem to be regrouping). Instead of going out looking for a gun, it would have made much more sense for the Rangers who secured him to give Raptor their sidearm, unless he already had a gun with him. As far targets for Shepherd, I'm certain about it ("Then that's just one more loose end" and Shepherd personally assigns you to secure the VIP in "Exodus"). Also, the fact that Raptor has a codename calls his identity into question: why is he so important that he must keep his identity secret? It brings to mind Gone in Sixty Seconds where instead of calling the car by it's name, you say its codename so that anyone listening in hasn't got a clue who or what you're talking about. Man, I didn't realize how much I wrote. Anyhow, I'll continually look into this. Chief z 14:40, November 16, 2009 (UTC) - I've also done the mission again, and it seems as though when Foley names him, it's a little informal? Like simply saying 'Raptor has gone there' leads me to believe that the other Rangers would know who Raptor is. - I went to look up the 23rd on Wikipedia, apparently both Colin Powell and Norman Schwarzkopf and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge served in that unit as well. I'm thinking it's a code in game for a Cabinet Secretary either Defense Secretary of Homeland Secretary, besides we see the Defense Secretary with Shepherd later as well. Anybody know if anybody important lives in King George County? PhantBat 15:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC) - Interesting stuff there Batman, might lead to some interesting possiblities. If you're on PC could you get a picture of Raptor in the meat locker? Just prone and zoom into him as far as possible. Personally I think that the next Modern Warfare game shgould bring him back, he just seems to damn ilusive. Maybe he's an undercover agent? But if he's just a bloody businessman from America then that is anticlimatic to say the leastRaptor

Diffrent accounts?
Can you make diffrent accounts for PC instead of just one on steam? SLAUGHTERER 10:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC),

Cleanup
OK, I don't know if anyone else is thinking this, but I think the MW2 page needs a major cleanup. I think it should be compared to the CoD:4 page (like removing perks and weapons sections).   Maj.Gage   Talk . 11:18, November 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * That is very true. It seems too cluttered and full of stuff. I am thinking that most of the multiplayer info should be taken out, as it is just a repeat of what is said on the mutli page. I also think that the same thing should be done with Spec Ops, as both give unneeded info, that their respective pages already show. Attack Rhino 12:09, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Working on it. I've downsized the weapon list to include only a brief overview and the weapon box. Gonna try the SpecOps and the perks/attachments now. Chief z 11:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Ghost may get his own game
Found it on IGN. Here's the quote from Fairbrass himself: "I did in the last game a voice for a character called Gaz and in this game I'm now voicing a guy called Ghost, who now just got a spin-off comic of his own and they're talking about another little game to go with it."

Full article: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1045373p1.html

Perhaps some DLC levels with Ghost? Because according to this, we might be getting additional online services in the future. Only time can tell. Chief z 14:04, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Deagle
Does anyone know what attachments the Deagle takes?

Proberly as all the same other pistols i guess. SLAUGHTERER 20:25, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

The pistols all vary though...and the Magnum's the blank spot of the ones I know...

EMP/ Tactical Nuke
I think it's worthwhile putting in the EMP is the only thing that stops the nuke. Lhj 20:27, November 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried it on splitscreen and it doesn't work. But if anyone can PROVE you can do it online, by all means, put it on. OmgHAX! 20:36, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I know that in the private match a friend and I attempted this in the Nuke was stopped. But once again, not proved in normal online. Lhj 20:39, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Avatar pictures
We need screen caps of OpFor, militia and Spetsnaz characters, and perhaps TF 141, Rangers, SEALs and shadow company as well. All I can find online are the promotional pictures. Anyone got the PC version or a capture card? OmgHAX! 21:54, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sources on these two "facts"?
On the fact scroll on the home page it was stated that popular Modern Warfare maps from the first game would end up in the second, where was this posted and if true why is it not mentioned in the DLC section? Also the fact about a "Halo 3 like" video DLC coming later where is this from? Sources please? - Asian Inferno 23:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thats from way back i saw an interview where this was stated, i forget who was interviewed. --Cpt Jack House 12:12, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * what i meant was the "Halo 3 like" vid sharing was talked about, the Old maps returning seems unlikely as IW said i didnt not work with the new engine (killstreaks, new perks, etc.) --Cpt Jack House 12:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Found it (Video Sharing) and added the source to the "Downloadable Content" section, still can't find the comment/interview on old maps though. Asian Inferno 23:08, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize
can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! liambobjobs 8:39 17 November 2009

Ok to start of with i don't think you will get any attention because you have spammed the word four times and you haven't explained why you want them on there. Next time could you please... Please explain why you want certain things put up on the site. SLAUGHTERER 10:04, November 17, 2009 (UTC).

Are you freaking cool guy? I've seen you posting this for ages, when a simple Google search brings these results;

Grenadier FAMAS SPAS 12 Frag Grenades Stun Grenades x 2 Scavenger Perk Stopping Power Perk Commando Perk Copycat Deathstreak

First Recon UMP45 .44 Magnum Semtex Flash Grenade x 2 Marathon Perk Lightweight Perk Steady Aim Perk Copycat Deathstreak

Overwatch L86 LSw AT4 Semtex Flash Grenades x 2 Bling Perk Stopping Power Perk Steady Aim Perk Painkiller Perk

Scout Sniper Barrett .50 Cal USP .45 Tactical Insertion Smoke Grenade Sleight of Hand Perk Coldblooded Perk Scrambler Perk Copycat Deathstreak

Riot Control Riot Shield PP2000 Blast Shield Stun Grenade x 2 Marathon Perk Hardline Perk Commando Perk Painkiller Deathstreak

Next time ask Google, you absolute cool guy. BLOB 10:54, November 17, 2009 (GMT).

BlOb, you might wanna make that using enters. This guys smart brain can handle long sentences with all Capital Letters Like This. P.S.: Liam, says your rank get a life rank retards --Slowrider7 12:10, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

you guys are too nice to me and too harsh on yourself and to nice to me calling yourself rank retards and calling me cool your nice all DA best Liam liambobjobs 6:58 November 2009

Blob your acting like a real retard but liam i was just mentioning something but please accept my apologie but seriously Blob i am just saying he should explain why he wants them up so do me a favour please and don't make a fool of yourself and also i'm sorry liam for saying that but next time could you please explain why you would like them up there and the rest of the people may be able to help you out mate. :) its cool and i shall have a look for you.

Slaughterer, Blob, everyone else, I told a mod about this idiot. Im gonna try to get him IP Banned so that he cant even make a new account on his computer.

Who me or him LOL.

slowrider prolly meant him.

Can mods please fix this page?
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Gary_Sanderson

Theres is no proof that is Roach. --Slowrider7 12:22, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought there was proof on Cliffhanger, oh well. Attack Rhino 06:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

- No proof Sgt. Sanderson is Roach? Doesn't every mission have his name as 'Roach' Sanderson?

Let's Rock N' Roll Y'all
This is a paragraph from the section "Game Crazy preview event" of the MW2 page.

"On August 25, 2009, a demo was shown for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 with the team in Rio De Janiero. The demo started off with Sergeant Gary "Roach" Sanderson, Captain "Soap" MacTavish, Royce, and Meat running through a street chasing an important associate of Vladimir Makarov. I wanna rock and roll all night girls and boys. Also civilians are running for their lives from the enemies. Then MacTavish tells Roach to shoot him in the leg and he successfully does. Later Soap and another member close down a gate and are ready to interrogate the man while Royce and Meat accompanies Roach to continue down into the favelas where the upmost, intense action occurs. Soon civilians again run away, enemies spot the team members and shoot at them. Royce said to Roach to continue to fight from the rooftops. But the demo then ended without any further action of the level."

Anyone else see anything wrong with this? Sure, it's funny, but let's keep this page informational. It's been there for a while now. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed yet.

71.107.56.188 07:31, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I took care out it, so now it's time to find the person who put it there in the first place. Chief z 14:14, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's called vandalism, not attempted humor. Every page is technically supposed to be 100% informational. That guy was a parasite, not an editor. Imrlybord7 14:26, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Found the guy who did it and I brought it to Chia's attention; so, all taken care of. Chief z 15:55, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

any one wanna add me on Steam for those PC gamers?
Hey guys i was wondering if anyone who plays it on PC wanted to add me on steam if you would like to add me on steam talk to me on my talk page. - Hey mate if you're on PC, could you get a screenshot of Raptor? He's the VIP in the Wolverines! mission.

Yeah i shall i have seen him around a few times.

Weapon stats from testing
All damages are 100% confirmed, rates of fire are estimations (good ones, though). Imrlybord7 14:25, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I was originally going to post something along the lines of "I will be deleting and rewriting all of the weapon pages soon. I don't even need to look at them to know they are shit," but I felt that that was overly judgmental and egotistical. Then I went to the L86 LSW page. It was shit. Imrlybord7 14:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also fix the AA-12. Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt to make that alot better than a Wikipedia copypasta and random lines of crap. --Slowrider7 21:08, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

NPC Knifing
I'm playing Wolverines! and I see Sgt. Foley actually knife a guy in front of him (I even heard the slash); it wasn't even scripted. Anybody else notice other NPC's doing the same? Chief z 15:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC) -- lol I've never seen that happen, and you mean that he knifed a teammate right? Must be something gone wrong I guess, and also were you playing that mission to find out intel on the elusive Raptor :D

Sorry, I meant knifing a Russian. It's the first time I've seen one of the NPC's use a knife that wasn't scripted. But you are right about the second part; still getting info on Raptor. Chief z 10:38, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

TF 141
is roach possibly in the picture of TF 141? i was thinking far left standing up

na mate thats Cpl.Dunn if roach is in that then he would be far right under the word "Mr" but he probably isnt in there because IW dont make charcters faces, they make the player imagine them. ?Whipsnap? 22:09, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

1st lieutenant title
I have a rank level of 37 and i have not unlocked the 1st lieutenant title yet. Anyone know whats going on?

Probably just a glitch. Beat a challenge or something and re-check. Remember Slaughterer, not very many people have been playing enough to get that high so early, so we might not have any clue how to get certain things. --Slowrider7 02:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Good point but i am a level 38 now and still haven't got it.

Im level 23. Fail eh? --Slowrider7 12:13, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm around there as well and I do have it.. weird ehh.

I am a level 44 now and i got it at level 39 i think i cant remeber.

Can the COD Wiki do this or is it the actual Wiki format standard?

 * First off I just wanna say I posted it here because this is the second most important page on this wikia.**

Is it possible to turn off or block summarys for talk pages? Seriously, I dont think anybody will be saying anything important enough the post a summary. Is that possible or its that a permanent function of the Wiki system? --Slowrider7 03:50, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wiki has incorrect entry
Under the TRIVIA section it lists:

"This is the first game to have killing unarmed civilians as an objective."

I played through the level with out harming a single civilian, so it could not have been an objective. I was forced to shoot at the opposing force after the civilian section, but soldiers/police officers are not civilians.

173.12.132.217 16:49, November 19, 2009 (UTC) Autobott

== Will the map packs have more Spec. Ops like Trearch did with nazi zombies. Nzombieslaya

Probably slaya, but this is the wrong place for that question. Please make a new section. And Autobott, ill change it. --Slowrider7 03:02, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

modernwarfare2.com
what is going on with the modern warfare 2 site? it has a section on the main page that says its for registered members of Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and will open soon. does anyone know why it hasnt opened yet? or what its for? havoc131

Modern warfare 3 footage
Brought to you by the Onion. OmgHAX! 18:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Cant be real. 18:59, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's fake, well.....it is. hahaha. We havn't even seen a trailer for COD 7 yet lol 20:30, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Lmfao. Win. --Slowrider7 21:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

If you notice its all just footage of S.S.D.D., which leads me to wonder: do the NPCs there actually have funny quotes? I haven't noticed at all. OmgHAX! 23:51, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

That gave me a good laugh. But Hax, just go around and listen to what they say, it's hilarious. Here's my two favorites: Chief z 10:42, November 21, 2009 (UTC) Also
 * "Look at the way you hold your gun. It's like you're in the Civil War."
 * "Hey Private, you ever seen a grown man naked?" And yes, someone actually says that.
 * "You still gay?" CoD addict 01:42, November 22, 2009 (UTC)CoD addict

MW2 tops sale charts
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/973094/modern-warfare-2-sales-top-a590-million Okay, so we all had a feeling MW2 was going to be kick arse, but it smashed a few records. It even beat the gross earnings of Harry Popper 6 (hate that movie) and GTA IV. It's going to be hard for IW to top this one. :D And it's surprising Nine MSN didn't have a field day on the game.... Hahaha, Cpt. Carebear

Archive time
It's past that time already. We usually archive around 40 sections, but we're already pushing 60. Chief z 10:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed mate, who is the moderator that will change this? RaptorMW3 02:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Original Style Deagle?
I noticed in the mission "Wolverines!" when you find "Raptor" there is a Modern Warfare 1 Desert Eagle next to him (Silver, not black, no laser sight under barrel). Unfortunately, you can't pick it up. Broeman 17:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Cpl. Dunn also has one in S.S.D.D. 17:49, November 21, 2009 (UTC) -- The legend of Mr. Raptor lives on lol Maybe that's a sign he was in COD4 somehow?

GUYS URGENT
Guys this is really urgent i need to know how to make 2 Modern warfare 2 account on the one steam account.