Forum:Personal Bans

When this block came to my attention, I remembered another forum which mentioned that there cannot be personal blocking by the admins. You cannot block a user simply because you found the word "fag" offensive, it turns out that other people weren't offended by it at all (especially considering the fact it was directed towards a video game character) and would not have issued a block had they found out first. Also, there have been other users using the word "fag" before (even a case of someone calling TMOI a "fag" directly), and no action has been brought up against them. Administrators blocking users simply because they do not like the user or personally found something offensive cannot be happening, it is biased and generally unfair.

On a side note, certain users have made pissing TMOI off a pastime and it appears they are doing this in an attempt to break him. This is a huge breach of COD:UTP and is a very major offense. Things like the following list of examples cannot be happening:


 * This is unnecessary, just because it was Dan's choice doesn't mean TMOI cannot remove it.
 * Oh come on. That's just being a dick. Where did it say you can't edit your own talk page?
 * That's called barracking, and it's very intimidating for anyone.
 * Comment: "course the user with the Soviet insignia thinks Obama is a good president." - flamebait

These sort of things really need to stop. It doesn't matter how annoying he is, he's user and COD:UTP applies to him as well. 22:16, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

There has been admins using "fag" too, as you well know.nlmgr 22:21, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Administrative tools are not something to use when it's personal. Adminship is supposed to be serious and proffesional. Blocking someone personally doesn't show that they are proffesional. while I do agree that "fag" is a very nasty word to say, if I, or anyone else, were to find it offensive and no one else did, I would just leave it be. --CodExpert 22:25, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

This makes me think of when Bord banned TMOI after what he said to me; he asked Chia about it, who said he would've done the same thing. Shotrocket6 22:30, July 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * But that's an impersonal ban, it's not a problem. 22:32, July 27, 2010 (UTC)

Personal blocks should be stopped, that's just to show the administrator's immaturity; that he can't seperate personal feelings between his administrative tasks. Administrators should keep their cool and act professional, they shouldn't be using offensive words like "faggot" and they also shouldn't be using offensive or unnecessary comments, like the ones Callofduty4 stated. I find all of these issues to be pretty common in our administrators. 23:53, July 27, 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks dude, I hope now the admins will stop being idiots and making blocks because it offends them.

I would also like to add, in IRC, when Griever was given TWO MERE pieces of evidence of a huge breach of CoD:UTP when someone said "Fag" he refused to block them (Obviously he has something against me) and his reason was "Well, I am not going to retro-actively dig up every case of someone saying the word and block them", yet he was only given, like I said, TWO MERE PIECES of evidence. There is obviously a huge breach of CoD:AEAE here and I will not stand for it.

I don't know what to say right now, considering i'm the person mentioned in the proposal. I generally do not use language like that and have already apologized. I do agree with the issue at hand. Do i need to mention religion in this? What about something like that?

Guthix, You called him a fag and all you had to do was apologize, While TMOI used fag against a FICTIONAL characher and got blocked. No flame war intended. I think It was a HUGE, BIG, ACS MODULE BREACH in CoD:AEAE. Like TMOI said above, If TMOI said something to a FICTION charachter and got blocked, That IS a major ACS MODULE breach in CoD:UTP.  2nd Lt.  BravoAlphaSix  01:33, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes you are right. Editors are judged based on past offences. Thats hardly fair.
 * I still think Guthix needs a nice block. TheManOfIron (Talk) 01:40, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * In fact, Bravo, thats a REALLY good point. TheManOfIron (Talk) 01:40, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * @TMOI, please don't bring that up, I've already apologized and is hardly relevant to this.
 * I demand you make make a template yourself that says you are sorry so can put it on my userpage. TheManOfIron (Talk) 01:43, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * If only i could make templates...
 * Make a template that says I am "Banana penis crazy awesome". TheManOfIron (Talk) 01:45, July 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Are you insulting me or is that a joke?
 * I;m serious. Make me a template saying I am banana penis crazy awesome. TheManOfIron (Talk) 01:52, July 28, 2010 (UTC) P.S. due to the signature policy, you MUST attach a time frame to your template. You can do this by adding for ~'s or some other way IDK.

Stay on topic please. 01:55, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I want a userbox! TheManOfIron (Talk)

Banana penis crazy awesome. TheManOfIron (Talk) 02:19, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

What about your vote in the request for featured article page? You simply opposed to be different, and when I removed it you said I was overstepping my bounds, called people birdbrains, and said I was only defending it because it was the article I nominated. This behavior should not continue.  Poketape Talk  03:55, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I guess I didn't make it clear enough. This is what I said. "AT LEAST IT IS BETTER THAN SAYING "Per mr birdhead loli want a sandvich" SO STOP ACCUSING ME OF THINGS TO MAKE ME LOOK BAD, (indian accent) DANK YOU, COMEAGEN! (/indian accent) TheManOfIron(Talk)

"Fag" qualifies as hate speech, something that is clearly prohibited. And I pretty much only issue warnings for that word, but I might have blocked someone for using it once (although it was definitely in conjunction with other things, that wasn't the only offense). Also, DA is gay (I know that isn't much of a reason to let her use the word, but in a lot of places that would count for something) and what TMOI did at the time was so reprehensible that I did not hold any users responsible for what they said to him for the first few minutes, although if the insults had continued against him I would have issued some more warnings and/or blocks. Imrlybord7 05:21, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

CoD:AEAE... So, because it was a video game character and offended nobody, it still counted against something, but when a user DIRECTLY assaults ME with it, it counts for nothing? Ok, that makes perfect sense. TheManOfIron(Talk)

TMOI has a point ya know.  2nd Lt.  BravoAlphaSix  06:23, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Administrators should not block users because they just don't like him/her. It's unfair (don't say "entire world is unfair", the more unfair things you do, the more world will be unfair), and, administrative rights given to users on this wiki to make wiki better, not to dominate in conflicts. Administration should block users for directly breaking the rules. Everyone have their own opinion about man. TMOI violated COD:UTP sometimes, so, he can be blocked. 06:37, July 28, 2010 (UTC)



Personally i think i should have been banned for what i said, but banning me right now will not help anything. Only one user actually put on my talk page that what i did was against the rules, and even that came a week after the incident. Admins have prejudice against certain people. Thats just how things are. It can be tough to change that.14:28, July 28, 2010 (UTC)