Talk:Scavenger (weapon)

Err... Crossbow? Chubbaking 16:04, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

Silencer
In the trailer i saw, there were attachments (some of which seem moot, like a silencer) and i was just wondering if that seemed like that was a silencer on the end of the barrell. 24.7.217.249 16:55, April 28, 2011 (UTC)

It's a silencer. You can also see the silencer on an MPL in one of the videos as well... JerryWiffleWaffle 00:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

PTRS-41?
Maybe it's a souped-up version of the PTRS-41... What do you guys think?

Can't be a PTRS-41. The PTRS-41 isn't bolt-action. Daniel Smith


 * If you look close, it looks like a KAR-98k or a Moist Nugget. Slowrider7 21:29, April 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm tempted to say it's the R700 because it was around than AND it was modern at the time 1-10 00:15, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * I did notice that it looked similar to the Mosin-Nagant under the Sight... JerryWiffleWaffle 00:27, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * True it sorta does but the barrel is too long 1-10 00:45, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Moist Nugget". LOL. General Geers 10:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry... I didn't notice the bolt-action... ninjun
 * the profile looks like an HK SL8 rifle -spiderk
 * True it sorta does but the barrel is too long 1-10 00:45, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * "Moist Nugget". LOL. General Geers 10:02, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry... I didn't notice the bolt-action... ninjun
 * the profile looks like an HK SL8 rifle -spiderk
 * the profile looks like an HK SL8 rifle -spiderk
 * the profile looks like an HK SL8 rifle -spiderk

Ummm......
This weapon, Could it be an upgraded and upscaled L96A1? because, it's bolt action, it's a sniper rifle, has a similar, if not identical firing sound. Also, maybe all who buy the Escalation map pack can get the sniper rifle not only for Zombies, but for Create a Class Gloryman3 19:53, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

personally i though it was what happens when an L96A1 had babies with a crossbow. Same reload animation with the bolt action sound and firing sound it even feels the same but not for create a class a 5000 damage sniper rifle well technically it'll just be a crossbow ith a sniper scope Ztormtrooper 03:34, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Move protected
What administrator has the audacity to move protect a page while it is named improperly? Grrrr... -- CoD addict (talk) - 21:07, May 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * What's wrong with it? (I am serious btw) and I am assuming they'll unprotect it completely once the map pack is out. Carbonite 0 21:09, May 1, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't see what's wrong with it, but in all honesty I don't give a fuck if it's named wrongly. There were at least three separate double redirects to this page and it was a hell of a mess to clean up. I'll unprotect it when it's released, but until then you can wait until Wednesday 3rd. 21:15, May 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Name it to Scavenger (weapon) because I haven't seen an article the says (Sniper Rifle)  RC  ™   22:10, May 1, 2011 (UTC)

Name
Can't we call it Scavenger (weapon) like alll the others?

BTW where'd you find out what the name was?

The name is in the achievments and in the coding

Joseph Tan 02:20, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * It'll get change once the move protect is removed and I believe it was found in game coding or files. Carbonite 0 02:55, May 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * Really? Where abouts? I didn't see anything, General Geers 08:50, May 2, 2011 (UTC)

Scavenger scope
Has anyone noticed that the scope bears a striking resemblance to the F2000 Scope/Red Dot from MW2? Im not talking about the reticle. Just the appearance of it.

i thought the sight felt familar and tahts what it was huh it looks weird on a sniper Ztormtrooper 03:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Infra Dead
Infrared? Zombies have body heat? In the arctic? Bioniclepluslotr 21:33, May 4, 2011 (UTC)

I mean its the laws of nature,if a zombie is moving,its mussels thus creating friction which equals heat.even if its dead its gotta use whatever mussel its got left to move ZOMBIE BAIT 368 11:06, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I seriously doubt that the zombies move with an animal related to the clam? That horrible monkey 21:18, May 11, 2011 (UTC)

Scavenger kills romero
It has been shown in a video that the scavenger (PaP, at least) can kill romero

Link:

http://www.product-reviews.net/2011/05/04/call-of-the-dead-zombies-secrets-how-to-kill-george-romero/

Not Infrared Enough
Well I got this baby out of the box and decided to Pack-A-Punch it for fun and noticed it actually had an infrared scope. I immediately wondered if you could see Nikolai, Tank and Rictofen. You can't. Don't try. Lol. Off-note, the weapon is a total badass when PAP'd. (XThOrAx 01:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC))


 * Not surprising, assuming that the cold probably froze everyone (except zombies, for whatever reason). Bioniclepluslotr  02:39, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

Wonder weapon
I think that we can class this weapon as a wonder weapon... Because an explosive sniper does not exist in real life... Knightofgrenoble 01:15, May 5, 2011 (UTC)Knightofgrenoble

I already consider it one. It's better than the Thundergun in my book. (XThOrAx 01:21, May 5, 2011 (UTC))

I agree Knightofgrenoble I think it should be considerd a wonder weapn,not just a weapon.ZOMBIE BAIT 368 11:08, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

I would say this is more of a wonder weapon than the V-R11 is, however unlike the Thundergun and the Wunderwuffe, it's damage isn't infinite. It begins to create crawlers at about round 35, so the Thundergun and Wunderwuffe are superior to it.

I think it is a wonder weapon too. First, the explosion is very particular ; no explosion is like this in real life. Besides, like Knightofgrenoble said, no explosive sniper exist in real life. Finally, it kills in one hit until round 35 and is good to get rid of Romero, so it is definitly a Wonder Weapon.

I also think it is a wonder weapon because of the explosion made by it, not only that it is a yellow burst but of its range too. Also, this game is set in the Cold War and they could not have this kind of technology in our world back than. Don't be stupid, it's a wonder weapon. Also, to the person who commented 2 paragraphs up, how the f*** did you get that far? Absorr Total Gamer Talk 18:52, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

i agree it may look like a sniper rifle mixed with a crossbow but the explosion looks unearthly sort of like the arrow realeased gas( maybe element 115 was used in teh arrows) Ztormtrooper 03:38, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Anyone else realize the name?
In Ascension you can spell Hyena using the lander. Hyena must be a someone's name. Someone find some info GOOGOGOGOGOGOG. (XThOrAx 01:23, May 5, 2011 (UTC))

Well, a Hyena is a rather scavenger-like animal, so it's already justified. I doubt it would strongly refer to any person. Cool fool 02:47, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

What does that have to do with the gun Scavenger? CoaZ Talk  02:53, May 5, 2011 (UTC)

The Scavenger upgraded is called the Hyena Infra-Dead

Nothing in the story of zombies has [a] "hyena' in it. I read the Kassimir Mechanism node page and it said LUNA was next to HITSAM and HYENA in the code, but HYENA has an unkown effect. That's freaking scary. Nik nik2121 02:15, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Actually at Der Reise written on a chalk board in the animal testing labs is the word Hyena,I think the hell hounds resemble hyenas mixed maybe with another bigger dog.So it vey well could be part of the story,Fluffy could have been a hyena??ZOMBIE BAIT 368 11:12, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

Not a Wonder Weapon?
I was just wondering why this weapon isn't listed as a Wonder Weapon, because I'm pretty sure it falls under that category seeing as it only appears in zombies and seems like an unrealistic gun like the other Wonder Weapons

This gun definitely sounds like a Wonder Weapon - considering that it's a unique and very unrealistic weapon that's extremely effective and can only be obtained from the mystery box. In all honesty, it sounds more effective than the V-R11 (I'm on PS3, so I can't actually can't try it yet). A mod definitely should move this to the Wonder Weapons category. 68.110.27.209 01:57, May 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think this is a Wonder Weapon. Wonder Weapons are all sci-fi looking and fire energy or other sorts of non-solid projectiles. The Scavenger is just a fictional sniper rifle. Bioniclepluslotr  02:00, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * doesn't the smoke released by the arrows or whatever is shot look interesting as if teh arrows had a gaseous 115 in it huh huh maybe the energy is in the arrows Ztormtrooper 03:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)
 * doesn't the smoke released by the arrows or whatever is shot look interesting as if teh arrows had a gaseous 115 in it huh huh maybe the energy is in the arrows Ztormtrooper 03:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

Reload Animation
anybody else noticed that it has the same reload animation as the Intervention from MW2? just sayin'...

-Its the reload animation of the l96a1, not the intervention, its just similar because they are both magazine fed bolt action rifles Fastandslow7 01:04, May 15, 2011 (UTC)

Title error
I'm done being polite about this. What do you people not understand about naming pages properly? "Weapon" is not a proper noun. So why would we capitalize it in a page title? -- CoD addict (talk) - 01:21, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

It a title format thing. Nik nik2121 02:17, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

HYENA INFRA-DEAD --> LINK TO ASCENSION?
The gun upgraded is called the HYENA Infra-Dead. Remember how with the letters and the lunar landers in Ascension, the word Hyena was programmed in?

Boom. There goes your mind. Go find stuff about it now. - The Man With The Plan

Even though I just read someone put the same thing. Someone should totally go on Ascension with both of these downloaded and see if something happens when you spell Hyena this time. To act like some idiotic rumorist, "OOH MAYBE YOU'LL GO TO PARADISE WHO KNOWS????" But seriously. Someone should do it just to see if something does happen. - The Man With The Plan

maybe you take the lunar lander and crash into Nuketown where another zombie map starts. :P I wish. Nik nik2121 02:18, May 6, 2011 (UTC)

AWSOME
well how many zombies will it kill at once like 24?

Damage
the damage stats the word "high" which is an inaccurate guess by som1 but could this gun have infinte damage?

well i don't know making it infinte havn't gone far enough but we should have a discussion about it before you make guess

according to the wiki its 5000 not pack a punched and 11000 pack a punched Ztormtrooper 03:41, May 29, 2011 (UTC)

The Damage CANNOT be 5000 Non-PAP and 11,000 PAP, the Scavenger is a OHK until round 34. Round 34 Zombies have 9000 health. There is also no noticeable damage difference between the PAP and non-PAP versions, they both are 2 hit kill weapons after round 34.

im adding infinte
well since no one changed it i i will add infinte just because it is very powerful upgraded acts like a gersch device if u kill them all u won't see them


 * Not infinite. It's an explosion, like a grenade, so it deals high damage, but won't kill enemies further away, just hurt them. Bioniclepluslotr  02:02, May 12, 2011 (UTC)

crawlersfu
it says around round 35 it make crawlers there no proof in this


 * Try it yourself. Bioniclepluslotr  02:03, May 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * well i hve ps3 could u do it and link it would be thankful
 * well i hve ps3 could u do it and link it would be thankful

It is a wonder weapon
It is totally a wonder weapon. If you agree then change it so it is in the wonder weapon category.HCSnDFTW 23:47, May 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Didn't someone already discuss this with you? It's not a Wonder Weapon. Carbonite 0 23:51, May 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wonder Weapon: A weapon that is so powerful, or has such abilities that make it from out of this world.
 * Scavenger: A goddamn sniper rifle.- Diegox223  Talk  23:54, May 17, 2011 (UTC)

What is unwonder weaponish about the Scavenger? It fires a torpedo that has delayed fire and explodes in a furious red and orange explosion. It obviously could use one-fifteen.HCSnDFTW 00:27, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Again, didn't someone discuss this with you in great detail already? Carbonite 0 00:30, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wonder Weapon?
Not the first to say this though, but I seriously think this weapon should be classified as a Wonder Weapon, as it doesn't exist in real life or elsewhere in the game, it has very high damage, it special in some way (a sniper that uses explosive rounds) and is apparently made by Group 935 as its logo appears on the side of the weapon. If Ray Gun is a Wonder Weapon, this should be too. I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be.  MLGisNot4Me talk 07:15, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Its not a wonder weapon as all the others the reason is that this is jsut an fantantsic crossbox because the ray is plasma the wunderwaffe electricity and the thunder air winter howl's ice v-r11 the ability to turn people back into human and the gersch device is a black hole therfore it cannot be a wonder weapon but i do see where your getting your point from (Demseystyle1 14:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC))

Translated into readable writing: Its not a wonder weapon as this is just a fantastic crossbow because the Ray Gun uses plasma, the Wunderwaffe uses electricity, the Thundergun uses air, the Winter's Howl uses ice, the V-R11 turns people back into humans and the Gersch device creates a Black Hole, so the Scavenger can't be a wonder weapon but I do see your point of view.

My actual statement:

The Ray Gun is a Wonder Weapon because of the achievement Aquire Waffle Weapons from World at War, which confirms that it is a Wonder Weapon.

Wunderwaffe literally means Wonder Weapon, and is part of Aquire Waffle Weapons.

As for the Scavenger, it might not be classified as a Wonder Weapon due to the fact it only has one usage:

Like how the Winter's Howl is designed to be useful with escapes and reviving.

The Thundergun is known as the DG-3 by Richtofen, which is the sucessor to the DG-2, which makes it a Wonder Weapon and the Thundergun is required to complete the Kassimir Mechanism.

The Monkey Bombs are also part of Aquire Waffle Weapons, thus becoming a Wonder Weapon.

The Gersch Device is essentially a Monkey Bomb which is a Wonder Weapon, however it is vital in completing the Mechanism in Ascension too.

The Matroshyaka Dolls are a unique grenade all together, and also are vital in the Mechanism.

The V-R11 is a Wonder Weapon because it does not damage, and it's only purpose is similair to the Monkey Bombs/Gersch Device. It is also required (Pack-A-Punched) to fend of George A. Romero and plays a role in the Original Characters Trapped easter egg.

The Scavenger, however, is essentially a Crossbow that does more damage (note to the above message), plays no (needed) role in any easter eggs, is not needed to kill George A. Romero, does not do infinite damage (as opposed to the other primary Wonder Weapons, aside from the Ray Gun, Winter's Howl (however, the Howl does no initial damage, but instantly kills on a second shot) and V-R11) and aside from it's appearence, is not unique in any way, as opposed to the other Wonder Weapons.

--Gruntijackal, the impending demise draws near 15:16, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

However... The weapon does not exist in real life, and all your reasons for calling the other weapons wonder weapons (Appearance, Easter Egg usage, Intended use(Which is stupid in its own right as there is no intended use for any of the weapons, just suggested use), etc.) are not enough of an argument. The Scavenger has a unique design, uses a non-existant type of ammo with ridiculous range, was created by group 935 and, based on game files, is more potent than a ray gun, So I do beleive it should be a wonder weapon.

Also, just a correction, The V-R11 is not required to deal with George. In fact it only sends him away with no reward.

Damac1214

Well i thank you for correcting my grammer and i see your point but if you notice as i said before its just like a crossbow but with amazing damage nearly all the wonder weapons has a purpose but the scavenger its just an gun with high damage (78.149.171.97 21:20, May 18, 2011 (UTC))

Oh and another thing (which I forgot), you can have more than one Scavenger at a time. This is much unlike the other primary Wonder Weapons (except the Ray Gun). --Gruntijackal, the impending demise draws near 06:29, May 19, 2011 (UTC)

I forgot somthing aswell all the wonderweapons does somthing normal guns wouldn't do. and since when can get more then one(Demseystyle1 20:19, May 19, 2011 (UTC))

You have been able to have more than one Scavenger since Call of the Dead came out. And the V-R11 is required in Original Characters Trapped, not suggested. The Thundergun is required for the Kassimir Mechanism. And if the achievement calls the Wunderwaffe/Monkey Bombs/Ray Gun waffle weapons, then they are 'waffle' (wonder) weapons. The fact that the V-R11 (upgraded) is the only weapon to deal with George in 1 shot is also worthy of wonder weapon status. If the Wonder Weapons wern't unique, they wouldn't be wonder weapons. Also, the Scavenger does not have a ridiculous range, considering that the sniper rifles have the same range. --Gruntijackal, the impending demise draws near 11:28, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

It IS a wonder weapon. There is no such thing as a sniper that shoots explosive sonic boom thingies out of it. Who CARES if it's not needed in any eatereggs or in any acheivmens. It IS a wonder weapon. HellHoundSlayer 12:11, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

There's also no such thing as a Pack-A-Punch machine, should we consider all the Pack-A-Punched weapons Wonder Weapons? They don't exist. All the weapons in zombies should be wonder weapons because of them magically appearing off chalk drawing or from a wooden box. --Gruntijackal, the impending demise draws near 19:28, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Look all wonder weapons have somthing different then any other gun as i said before as the ray gun uses plasma, the wunderwaffe uses electricity the monkey bomb distarcts zombies the thundergun blows zombies away the gersch device is a black whole the dolls are cluster bomb and the v-r11 turns zombies back into human

so they all have it's purpose in a trophy or easter egg or boss unlike the Scavenger which uses invention reload it's non pap scope is like any sniper and it is bolt actionn like a few guns and like the croosbow you have to wait for it to explode i admit that i get your point as a wonder weapon BUT it has nothing unique

(Demseystyle1 22:17, May 21, 2011 (UTC))

So Winters Fury isn't a wonder weapon cause no one has mentioned it and it's not usable in an easter egg?

Call of the Dead guns
I added a trivia to the Lightning Bolt, which needs to be added to the scavenger too. I cbf'ed to make an account right now so I'd appreciate if someone else did.

H. Yena?
Can we get some reason to put this in? Right now it sounds like simple speculation. 216.137.195.238 04:28, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Most things on here is speculation. But the trivia section should be speculation's home.

Scavenger=Sniper Version of Wunderwaffe/My view on if its a Wonder Weapon
Alright, Now I know theres a lot of controversy between whether the Scavenger is a wonder weapon or not. Personally, I think it is, but thts not important right now. I maybe the only one to think this, but, isnt the Scavenger just a Sniper version of the Wunderwaffe DG-2. Think about it! Both were created by Group 935, both hold 3 rounds, both hold 6 Pack A Punched as well, same amount of reserve ammo, and has a chain affect on the zombies. In WaW, the Wunderwaffe could kill 24 zombies in a row, so does the Scavenger in Call of the Dead. What I think is that, the Wunderwaffe didn't have an amazing affect as far as range, so when they found Peter and Harvey, they designed the Scavenger, it was made to be a long ranged Wunderwaffe, so it could demolish tanks, planes, and troops. But, the war ended and all of it was lost. Now, Hyena can be spelled in Ascension, so, I think that the Russians got their hands on it, it wasn't featured in Ascension because of the Russian fighting ways. Remember, Russia manufactured SMG's at the millions, thinking fill the air with lead. They didn't want old bolt action rifles like the Mosin Nagent, because they needed troops fast, and it required less training. The Scavenger was a bolt action gun, so it had no use to the Soviets, thus, it was sent to Siberia, which was in the USSR during the time in Black Ops. Because it possibly contained Element 115, it infected the crewmen, causing the zombie outbreak. Thats my theroy. As for it being a Wonder Weapon, it is. Again, it doesn't matter if it was used in an Easter Egg, or if it acts like a crossbow. The Thunder Gun in someways, acts like a LAW Upgraded, except zombies don't get up. And even if it not being in an Easter Egg is the main reason why it isn't a wonder weapon, the Fly Trap Easter Egg doesn't need a Wonder Weapon, it could be used by any Pack A Punched gun. You think a Thompson, BAR, or Kar98 upgraded is a Wonder Weapon. And the fly trap is in Black ops, if the buyer got the Hardened/Prestige Edition.Americangunner521 20:51, May 26, 2011 (UTC)

I'm just gonna throw in my two cents here, nice theory. One issue though, the Scavenger does not cause a chain affect, it simply destroys anything thats in its explosive range (much like the Thundergun's blast). The Wunderwaffe hits one, then takes time to spread to each individual zombie, as opposed to destroying them all.

Who added wonder weapon
Just a little bit interested how is this gun a wonder weapon i mean all wonder weapons has something unique ill explain:

The Ray gun uses plasa not normal round (No other gun is like this)

The Wunderwaffe DG-2 is electricity and links a chain and has infinte damage(No other gun is like this)

The Monkey Bomb has a monkey attachted and distarct zombies(No other grenade like this apart from the Gersch Device which is another wonder weapon)

The Thundergun is a compacted amount of air that can blow zombies away and has infinte damage but only close range(No other gun like this)

The Winter's Howl is a gun that can turn the zombies into ice and freeze them(no other gun like this)

The Matryoshka Dolls is a bunch of grenades that go in random direction and it has infinte damage(No other grenade like this)

The Gersch Device that suck zombies into a black hole (no other grenade like this but it simliar to a monkey bomb)

The V-R11 is a gun that turn zombies back into their human form and get's rid of romero for a round if shot in the water(No other gun like this)

The Scavenger is a gun that is bolt action shares simliar reload of the intervation and like a crossbow it will not explode straight away (Not unique)

(Demseystyle1 15:04, May 27, 2011 (UTC))


 * Just because it reuses animations doesn't mean that it's not "unique". It matches all the basis for all other Wonder Weapons: rarity, low ammo, extremely powerful, made by Group 935, and is not a real weapon in any sort of way. There has never been an explosive sniper rifle in Call of Duty. Bioniclepluslotr  02:59, May 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Rarity? All weapons have the same chance of dropping. And it can be used by more than one person, making it more of a 'common' weapon from the Box if anything. The Ray Gun is an exception, as nearly all sources from the Zombies storyline and achievements point to it being a Wonder Weapon.


 * On another point, the Winter's Howl has shown no sign to be created by 935, and is a wonder weapon. I'm pretty sure that the Matryoshka Dolls and the Gersch Device were not made by Group 935 (as the Gersch Device was made by Yuri, who's not part of 935). Group 935 makes a lot of weapons, but just because they make it doesn't make it a wonder weapon. The V-R11 also shows no sign of being made by 935. Half of the confirmed wonder weapons aren't made by Group 935, should we consider them to be normal weapons beause of this? No.


 * The Ballistic Knife, Crossbow, M72 LAW and China Lake all feature low ammunition and high power.


 * And for future points, Element 115 can neither support nor deny a weapon's status as a Wonder Weapon, as Pack-A-Punch weapons, and a lot of Zombies equipment and utilities are powered by the element.
 * To Help Bionics point:
 * A. The Scavenger can not be used by more than one person, never seen that happen anywhere, so yes it is rare.
 * B. The Ballistic Knife, Crossbow, M72 LAw, and China LAke are not high powered. Just being explosive, at least in zombies, does not give a weapon high power. On round 13 the crossbow no longer kills efficently, the ballistic knife can't by round 9 and the LAW and CHina LAke can't efficently kill after Round 16. The Scavenger, like most killing wonder weapons, is an effective killer even past round 30, just like the Wunder-waffe, Ray Gun, Thundergun etc.
 * C. Pack-a-punch weapons are just upgraded weapons. They are not really applicable to this debate just because 115 upgrades them. Equipment and Utilities aren't really weapons in general, so i don't know what your trying to say when you say that its silly that being powered by 115 makes a weapon a wonder weapon.
 * B. The Ballistic Knife, Crossbow, M72 LAw, and China LAke are not high powered. Just being explosive, at least in zombies, does not give a weapon high power. On round 13 the crossbow no longer kills efficently, the ballistic knife can't by round 9 and the LAW and CHina LAke can't efficently kill after Round 16. The Scavenger, like most killing wonder weapons, is an effective killer even past round 30, just like the Wunder-waffe, Ray Gun, Thundergun etc.
 * C. Pack-a-punch weapons are just upgraded weapons. They are not really applicable to this debate just because 115 upgrades them. Equipment and Utilities aren't really weapons in general, so i don't know what your trying to say when you say that its silly that being powered by 115 makes a weapon a wonder weapon.
 * C. Pack-a-punch weapons are just upgraded weapons. They are not really applicable to this debate just because 115 upgrades them. Equipment and Utilities aren't really weapons in general, so i don't know what your trying to say when you say that its silly that being powered by 115 makes a weapon a wonder weapon.
 * C. Pack-a-punch weapons are just upgraded weapons. They are not really applicable to this debate just because 115 upgrades them. Equipment and Utilities aren't really weapons in general, so i don't know what your trying to say when you say that its silly that being powered by 115 makes a weapon a wonder weapon.


 * The Scavenger can be used by more than one person, and like I said before all weapons have the same chance of dropping, otherwise it wouldn't be a 'mystery' or a 'random' box. Just because you've never seen that happen doesn't make it so.
 * They still have high power, if you look at their damage it is considered high. Plus, not killing 'efficiently' is rather redundant when we are talking about the Scavenger, which can kill you when you fire it further away than the other explosive weapons. That's not very effective. I also advice you not mention PhD Flopper as it causes you to be immune to all the explosive weaponry previously mentioned.
 * Aside from the Ray Gun (which is an exception due to other things confirming it being a Wonder Weapon), the Wonder Weapons all do infinite damage. The Winter's Howl might be random, but it instantly kills when it actually does damage on all rounds. The explosion made by the V-R11 has infinite damage. The Wunderwaffe, Thundergun, Gersch Device and the Matroyshaka dolls always kill on every round. The Monkey Bomb can gib a zombie, but only when it is on the very edge of it's explosive range or if another zombie is in the way the damage is cushioned.
 * Utilities still use 115, and did I mention that they were weapons?
 * Additionally, 115 is used in a Pack-A-Punch machine, thus the weapons are obviously effected by the 115, and if your point is applied to this debate, then the Scavenger has shown no sign of being powered by 115, in radios or in gameplay. Not that it matters.
 * Hehe, thats funny. You mention that it's a good killer past round 30, when that's when it begins to lose it's power.

Still not confirmed as a wonder weapon
Now that what i say into your mind before you argue back the Scavenger is not a wonder weapon the reasons saying this is because nothing special

Bolt-action

Normal Scope (Not PaP)

INfraded scope (you can get this online)

Variable zoom (other sniper pap have this)

(Demseystyle1 10:43, June 4, 2011 (UTC))

Along with everything else said above, right?

Well you don't have to believe me i mean my thought

(78.146.18.7 11:16, June 5, 2011 (UTC))