Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops/Archive 14

There goes Black Ops being balanced...
Everything looked absolutely awesome, except when I saw the M16 firing in 3 round burst. I bet this one gun is going to ruin the whole multiplayer. XDEATHMAN4aP90x 13:24, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wait, they put in an M16 variant that is full-auto capable in real life then programmed it for burst fire? Sheesh... 13:29, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Has anyone thought of that possibility is because someone is just bursting or it is gonna be an attachment that increase damage and accuracy. If they say it is auto, then they are gonna make it auto. But why not more attachments like increasing the damage and strength with burst fire. GunsSwordsFlames 21:08, September 2, 2010 (UTC)GunsSwordsFlames

BAD news guys
The tactical insertion is back. I just saw the equiptment. It's there.

Damn! That sucks.... Well, the thing is okay in and of itself, the problem is when the cheaters use it to boost. 99.181.98.64 21:14, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Im Sorry i'm new to this, so this will look bad, but I wanted to add some things.
New Confirmed Weapons from the new Multiplayer Trailer: Skorpion, WA2000, Bling, Flamethrower Attachement.

Skull at end of trailer
We all know about the

skull at the end of the prestige edition trailer. But, this video points out that if you take away the skull's jaw, it looks more like an alien. Any comment on this? Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 22:46, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot the link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X19dzbd1zis Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 22:47, August 31, 2010 (UTC)


 * I saw a youtube video that had the very same thing and said: "Nazi Aliens" as treyarch's new coop, as opposed to "Nazi Zombies" I wanted to die. its basically the emblem of the SOG. nout special --Ashwilso12 22:49, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * It is definitely the emblem of the SOG. On the Black Ops website there is a screenshot of Woods with that same skull tattooed on his right arm

Oh, the dude also points out other equipment that is shown to be used when you press the up button. In the first screenshot, you see the camera spike, but there are other things in different screenshots filling up the same space. Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 23:09, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

One more thing, i had the link to the regular tailer analysis, but not the prestige edition trailer analysis. here it is. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_PCzuVdQTg&feature=related Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 23:11, August 31, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe someone should add to the article under multiplayer that the crossbow will only have 2 charges!? Jupitus 12:59, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

COD: Black Ops full multiplayer reveal today.
josh Olin said the multiplayer reveal will start at 6:00 P.M. Pacific time. Link: XDEATHMAN4aP90x 12:52, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

When's that gonna be in paris time? Jupitus 12:58, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

3AM Paris Time, 2AM GMT Kranitoko (talk) 13:59, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

What about Eastern Time, like in eastern US and Ontairio, Canada? Maj. Boner


 * It's around 9 PM. . 20:20, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I aint entirely sure, but my best guess would be around 9PM? ish. Kranitoko (talk) 14:18, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Zombies on standard edition?
I was watching this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmG4xUdImDo&feature=related) and clicked on the link in the description: http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Black-Hardened-Playstation-3/dp/B003WFLGNU/ref=pd_zg_rss_ms_vg_videogames_5?ie=UTF8&tag=twittertrack-20.

There stands under Product Features of standard PC version the following: "Wide array of play modes including single player, local multiplayer versus and online co-op and multiplayer" Is this a possibility to have zombie on PC standard version?? Or just other stuff like in MW2? Jupitus 13:24, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Unless it is backed up by Treyarch then it is false. 13:33, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well, Gamespot dude said "The wii will have no multiplayer, except co-op mode and ZOMBIE mode) meaning it could be true, as no one in the right mind buys something for the wii unless they need it like a zapper or wii gun,maybe a nunchunk, plus, Treyarch has 'wii' smarts, so prolly so. ALMOST pushed "Save page" without signin' mah comment. Specialist Grundy 22:22, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Japanese version of Call of Duty: Black Ops
should we put the fact that Japan is gonna have Call of Duty: Black Ops published and dubbed by Treyarch and Square-Enix. Since it is going to go international and related to the same game, why don't we put it in?


 * Proof: link
 * Relase Date: 11/18/2010 GunsSwordsFlames 20:08, September 1, 2010 (UTC)GunsSwordsFlames

Unprotect
I'm going to unprotect the page around 6 PM EST so that registered users can edit the page when the MP reveal is on. Don't screw this up everyone. Darkman 4 20:23, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure that is a good idea?!  Helljumper "Noble Team ready for combat insertion." 20:24, September 1, 2010 (UTC)
 * We've done this with other BO trailers and reveal events, and nothing bad has happened. Besides, IPs still won't be able to edit; only registered users will. Darkman 4 20:29, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I promised I'll help. People can help correct my grammar in case I typed something wrong on it. but I will still try to be accurate as possible GunsSwordsFlames 20:26, September 1, 2010 (UTC)GunsSwordsFlames

@GunsSwordsFlames- I'll help also, but i'll prolly be a janitor muppet. Specialist Grundy 22:26, September 1, 2010 (UTC) (I.E. correcting Grammar and Translating, also Cleaning up spam or false,only if I know it is,statements)

Okay, its semi-protected now. Have fun! Darkman 4 22:27, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I will also clean up vandalsim.Sgt Sprinkles 22:30, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds like a plan. XDEATHMAN4aP90x 22:57, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Its 10:00 EST and nothing IS HAPPENING!!! XDEATHMAN4aP90x 02:07, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Hardened Edition (game.co.uk)
Hi all. I know Ive asked about this before but does anyone know when game.co.uk is going to pull its thumb out and put the hardened edition up for pre-order? They have got standard and prestige editions up but not the hardened edition. I would go to another site but, due to low funds and a large amount of gift cards, game.co.uk is the only place where I can afford to preorder from (and I do so want those maps... and the avatar outfit :3 ) Anyone? Ouroboros Omega 22:34, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Patience is the key, lad. Specialist Grundy 22:49, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Ive been patient for a month now, I dont want to come off as impatient or childish but they should have put them all up at the same time. Ouroboros Omega 22:54, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

I've been patience for over a year for a new wii multiplayer game, yet, they denied it, Do you think I am pissed? Hell yeah, Am I still patience to see if that is false? Yes, I am,lad. Now you can wait a smear 70 days if I can wait over 400. Specialist Grundy 23:15, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

You have a Wii?!? Man, do I feel for you... well not really but you get the idea. That console had promise but ultimately that promise was wasted when the console became a family console built on thin-spread novelty rather than a normal console with easy net access (like the 360 or ps3). Im sorry but I cant feel sorry for you and besides the game is out in 68 days, if I wait that long how am I meant to preorder it and get the maps and the avatar outfit? Ouroboros Omega 23:23, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Permission
Can I or someone add "The DS version of the game has Wi-Fi Connection symbol, or multiplayer, as the wii version does not, as possibe the wii will not have multiplayer, like call of duty 3, unlike Modern Warfare Reflex and World at War." I wouldn't like something to be deleted, so I may ask for permission now on, I hate when someone deletes something I spent weeks or days on.Specialist Grundy 22:57, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

Gun Game
Hey so we shuld include a trivia thing about Gun Game cuz dat mode/mod originated from Counter Strike so we should put tht on da main COD: BO page or on the article of Gun Game wen we make it Omnicube1 23:57, September 1, 2010 (UTC)

The trivia can be moved to the Gun Game page later when one is made I guess. I checked the CS wiki, Omnicube1 is right, the game mode is markedly similar. Link: http://counterstrike.wikia.com/wiki/Gun_game Ouroboros Omega 00:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Wager Trailer
There is a new trailer relesed with many new weapons and gamemodes to add to the wiki

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCP1g0dcUFE&feature=sub

here's a link to the trailer. (JayPeezey 03:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC))

weapons
weapons:

M14

M16A1

CAR-15

AK-47

AUG

FAMAS

SPAS

WA2000

MP5k

AWM

Skorpion

makarov

python

grim reaper

rpg-7

china lake grenade launcher

M203

Ithaca

death machine (minigun)

crossbow

Sorry its not organized, these are all the weapons so far ;) Codfan 03:12, September 2, 2010 (UTC)Codfan

Many Updates!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_8mPoloBo

Lots of stuff:

LAW rocket Launcher

WA-2000

Tomahawk

M14

Handhld Minigun!!!

Be prepered for awesomeness! Ferrariguy1000 03:13, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

btw the death machine is an XM214 microgun a 5.56 caliber that wieghs 28 lbs. not the mi34 minigun a 7.62 caliber that weighs 65 lbs (not counting power sorce)Thedeerhunter 09:38, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

there is also lightweight n sleight of hand in the trailer. Plus, they say PROMoiz1224 04:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

L72 LAW
The L72 LAW can be seen in the Wager Match Trailer (JayPeezey 03:13, September 2, 2010 (UTC))

Wager Match Pres.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kg_8mPoloBo

Twitter
"M14, AK47u, MP5K, Enfield, Uzi are in. " Darkman 4 03:21, September 2, 2010 (UTC) "Secondaries are pistols, crossbow, and launchers." Darkman 4 03:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

What's this gun?
I noticed a unusual looking gun on the kill gun thing. It looks funny. Anyone know what it is?



Ferrariguy1000 03:35, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

its the WA2000Thedeerhunter 09:08, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Probably the L96. Darkman 4 03:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look closely on the pistol grip, as well as the shape of the gun, and where the scope is positioned, you will see that it is a WA2000. Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 01:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look closely on the pistol grip, as well as the shape of the gun, and where the scope is positioned, you will see that it is a WA2000. Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 01:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

ASP
On twitter, someone mentioned ASP pistol: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASP_%28handgun%29

Thought it was noteworthy. Ferrariguy1000 03:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Added. Darkman 4 03:54, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Perks
The perks I saw were Lightweight, Sleight of Hand and Steady Aim. Pro versions are returning and Lightweight looked like in was in a blue tier and Sleight of hand and Steady Aim were in a red tier. (Ninoaguila 03:48, September 2, 2010 (UTC))

Here's the list i got from a liveblog

Tier One Perks - Lightweight. Scavenger. Ghost. Flak Jacket. Hardline.

Tier Two Perks - Hardened. Scout. Steady Aim. Sleight of Hand. Warlord.

Tier Three - Marathon. Ninja. Second Chance. Hacker. Tactical Mask

YuriKaslov 03:55, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Reticules!
This is awesome! According to some Twitters and videos, they have confirmed: Dot, Semicircle, Line with dot, Circle, Smiley, Arrows Horizontal, Arrows Vertical, Arrows with dot, Boxes, Burst, Circle within a circle, Circle with dot, Circle with Crosshairs, Circle with inner line, Circle with outer line, Circle with arrows, Circle with triangles, Outer crosshairs, small crosshairs, Large crosshairs, Diamond, Diamond outline, Heart, Radiation, Skull, Square, Square outline, Star, 3 dots, Treyarch, Triangle, Outer triangles, x, X with dot, yin yang. Ferrariguy1000 04:18, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Got the Big Picture now.
Literally: http://bigpwner.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/5944_01_0028_20100820-JQ7G31.jpg

Looks like a G3 on the right. Ferrariguy1000 04:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely the G3. And YES! They're wearing jeans! I can make my 'Nam SEAL with jeans and tigerstripe shirt and boonie hat. Chief z

I'm not sure, but the Russian dude in front looks like he has a unusual looking gun. Looks like either a SA-80 or G11. What's your guess? Ferrariguy1000 04:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * yeah, that looks like an L85. One of the Tweets said that there was an "Enfield" in the game. I guess this confirms it. Darkman 4 04:57, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't take the risk of putting it up the weapons list though. (well, there's nothing to lose other than the SA-80 though, right. :D) Ferrariguy1000 04:59, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * To me it looks like a famas with a sort of red dot/ new sight. TangoDown95 20:18, September 2, 2010 (UTC) TangoDown95

The guy getting esploded looks like he has the WA2000. As for the guy up front, it's hard to tell, for me at least. Could be the G11, FAMAS, or another bullpup rifle. Chief z 06:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Its not a G3 its a HK21. G3 still hasnt been confirmed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV89EZG6GVk g3 nor g11 are on assualt rifle list, unless its the last unlocked one. --Ashwilso12 09:20, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed it. Thanks for the correction. Chief z 11:33, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Does anyone else want that saw in the top right corner to be able to hurt people or is it just me? TangoDown95 20:19, September 2, 2010 (UTC) TangoDown95

hAlso, does anyone else notice the 8 ball logo and the clan tag, "PWN" on the side of the gun? Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 01:36, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Killstreaks confirmed
http://bigpwner.com/2010/09/02/black-ops-killstreaks-revealed/ Chopper gunner is back, I hope it's more balanced.

Ferrariguy1000 05:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

A......Double barrel shotgun (Over under)
http://www.1up.com/media/03/8/4/0/lg/702.jpg

Looks fancy with those designs. Ferrariguy1000 06:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

looks like a browing i have one thats a little less fancyThedeerhunter 09:18, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

weapons i saw in multiplayer reveal wager match trailer
ok, there was the reveal yesterday, and the only thing i could find today without much searching was the wager trailer. i saw the following weapons (note this only includes the weapon names i saw in the HUD (like when swithcing weapons..), and really obviou ones:

weapons i saw:

M72 LAW (0:15) China Lake (0:20) RPG-7 Crossbow Khaca (?) (0:38) Balllistic Knife MP5K (1:40) Skorpion w/ Dual Wield (1:43) Makarov Dual Wield (1:47) WA2000 (1:53) Death Machine (?) (2:17) M14 (2:41)

M1 Garand


 * Where did you see an M1? It would be cool if it were in there, but I think you misidentified it as the M14. --LOST-The Cartographer 19:17, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * 1. The Khaca is the Ithaca, a shotgun. 2. I have never seen the Khaca. 3. Sign your posts. Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 01:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)




 * Oops, i meant to say i have never seen an M1 in black ops. Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 01:40, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

All of the new images released today
http://www.1up.com/do/media?cId=3173532&sec=IMAGES

Darkman 4 06:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Laser sight
have you guys seen this? its a laser sight on the m202. http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3200/picture2lw.png

PS: deathmachine looks awesome!!!! add it to the article already! Alex dlc 07:21, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

HK21
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/2425/picture3z.png Alex dlc 07:49, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

what shotgun is this?
its in the TDM montage video from gametrailers

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/3302/picture4na.png

Alex dlc 07:57, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

its this one! http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/images/013253m.jpg Alex dlc 08:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

correction: this is the right one!!! im sure. http://www.great-lakes.org/graphics-2/Beretta/Beretta-682-Trap-Combo.jpg Alex dlc 08:31, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

nope is the ithica pump shotgunThedeerhunter 09:11, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

your right, the icon is of the ithaca. but the baretta is also in the game. its the one with over/under barrels. and then theres the stakeout shotgun. Alex dlc 09:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

its not the Ithaca. its the Olympia Alex dlc 17:19, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

attachments
-Dual Wield

-Thermal sight

-Red dot seems to look a bit less like bad company 2 and more mw2

-extended mags

-flamethrower attachement

tho im sure all noticed anyway.

also another weapon at 0:43, you dont see it tho, hes in the middle of switching it out

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ithaca_37

--Ashwilso12 08:00, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

holly crap flamethrower attatchment thats badassThedeerhunter 09:12, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

New weapons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAM5AZxmT_M Here shows somethings in create a class. 65.164.193.133 08:07, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

cool. where did u get that? Alex dlc 08:32, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

btw the death machine is an XM214 microgun a 5.56 caliber that wieghs 28 lbs. not the mi34 minigun that weighs 65 lbs (not counting power sorce)Thedeerhunter 09:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

beretta proof
beretta is visable in one of the Gametrailers videos. go check it out. its also in this screen http://twitpic.com/2kgxp1 and this is an image to compare http://www.great-lakes.org/graphics-2/Beretta/Beretta-682-Trap-Combo.jpg Alex dlc 09:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

OK, but what the *EFF!* is a "baretta"? 10:35, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

cant you see the images? its a over/under barrel shotgun Alex dlc 11:02, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

stakeout proof
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/4391/picture9k.png Alex dlc 09:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

what launcher is this?
not sure what this is, its not the chinalake, not the m202, not the rpg... http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/7138/picture10qw.png Alex dlc 09:46, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

nevermind, its the m72 law Alex dlc 09:56, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

==Arch angels name should be changed == In the create a class gameplay the arch angel is called the valkyrie rockets

Lee enfield and M14 returning
Its in the create a class sneak peak pause at assualt rifles.Sgt Sprinkles 10:59, September 2, 2010 (UTC) Pics or it didn't happen. Also, sign your posts. 10:55, September 2, 2010 (UTC) I can confirm this 1000% hes right. I think the "enfield" is the SA80 cause a 100 year old rifle wouldnt make any sense A Lonely Nomad 11:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

the Enfield is an Assault Rifle, not a sniper. (someone put it under snipers) Alex dlc 11:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I did have pics bur fraps is being a jerk.Sgt Sprinkles 11:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

"a 100 year old rifle wouldnt make any sense" Didn't stop them using a 120-year old shotgun. 11:06, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also, "Lee-Enfield" refers to a specific weapon (the bolt-action WWII rifle). So if it is an SA80 series weapon you've got your facts screwed. 11:09, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Also if you see hutchs gameplays the AWMs name is L986A1.Sgt Sprinkles 11:11, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

You do know that in the 60's/70's the Enfield wouldn't have been over a century old. More like 70-80 years old. Also the Brits used the Enfield as the standard rifle till 1957, but even then it was still commonly used. Lastly Sprinkles is right it "Lee-Enfield" not Enfield. --LOST-The Cartographer 19:29, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Enfield assault rifle
theres only one enfield (in the game) and its an assault rifle. theres no enfield sniper (in the game). this is the enfield assault riffle( pic). if your wondering how i know, i know because this was already a rumored weapon. it was on the toy gun wall in the treyarch offices. its also called cadet l98a1. the L96a1 is the sniper, but thats not called enfield ingame

http://www.rifleman.org.uk/Images/Enfield_Cadet_RHS_breech_open.gif

Alex dlc 11:30, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Right. Time to shoot this down. There is an Enfield sniper rifle. (clicky!). There are also several rifles under that name, including the SA80 series and the Lee-Enfield, as it refers to any weapon designed and produced at the Royal Small Arms Factory in Enfield, East London. Also, the rifle you posted isn't a toy, it's a real weapon.11:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

i know theres an enfield sniper, but that has nothing to do with the game. the only time you see the word enfield in the game is under the assault riffle section. so good for you if you found a sniper thats also called enfield. but its got nothing to do with black ops. and i know the pic i posted isnt a toy, im not stupid. im saying it looks exactly like the toy gun that treyarch had in their office. i think i was pretty clear on this, but maybe you still dont get it Alex dlc 11:39, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

It looks exactly like the one they had because it's a toy version of an SA-80 series weapon. It wasn't that one because it didn't have the larger charging handle, making it an L85 rather than an L98. 11:41, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

fine, maybe its an l85, but all i was saying is that there is no lee enfield sniper in the game. if you think theres a lee enfield sniper in the game, show proof Alex dlc 11:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

At what point did I make that claim? 11:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

not you. someone must have heard that "enfield" appears in the create a class screen, and they added "lee enfield" under the sniper section of the article. can you agree with me that the enfield in the game is an AR, and that its the l85 or l98 or similar to the toy gun? http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb21710/common/skins/common/blank.gif Alex dlc 11:47, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

If it's an AR, then it has to be the L85 or L22. The L86 is an LSW/DMR, and the L98 is a target training rifle. 11:48, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

its an AR for sure, 100% because you clearly see it in the game as an AR alongside the other ARs. now, i dont know exactly what model it is (l85, l86, l98a1...) all i know is that it looks like the image i posted with the large stock, bullpup.... and we can know this because it was on the toy wall, the scorpion was also there and its been confirmed. Alex dlc 11:53, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

If that's true then it's the L85, since that's the only one that fits. I'd wait until we actually have pics though before passing judgement. 12:01, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

enfield is the second AR you can buy http://img825.imageshack.us/img825/1627/picture12g.png Alex dlc 12:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I meant pics of the actual gun in game for working out what variant it is, but whatever. 12:09, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

oh ok, well if it dosnt end up looking like the image and like the toy gun, then it would just be a big coincidence. it might change a bit from the picture, but im pretty sure it will have the same general shape Alex dlc 12:18, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

You can see a picture of the Enfield AR at 2:14 of the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G94SolEtpnc

Uzi
In the team deathmatch footage before the person kills someone with the FAMAS in the bottom left corner it says someone killed another person and there is a mini-uzi symbol. Hunter Steven 11:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

this is very possible since the mini uzi was another weapon that treyarch had on the wall of toy guns. so if theres an icon of it in the game, i think its confirmed. i havent seen the icon though Alex dlc 11:54, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

what TDM video are you talking about? Alex dlc 12:08, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

ok, i think i found it. the video didnt look great so i cant tell if its a mini uzi, but it is similar. its definitely not a scorpion or a mac11

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/8972/picture14lx.png

Alex dlc 12:25, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Looks like a full size, judging by the stock. 12:29, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

yeah, it might be a UZI. only uzi i knew untill now was the mini uzi in mw2. but maybe this one is better. Alex dlc 12:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Mac 10 is actually called MAC11 in game
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/8981/picture11j.png Alex dlc 12:01, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

M16
Theres in game M16 footage in this videohttp ://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLYY-7Q8878&feature=channel sorry I couldn't link it( I don't know how) Hunter Steven 12:05, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

and?? theres also m16 gameplay in the Gametrailers video, m16 was already confirmed Alex dlc 12:09, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

AK-74u in game shot
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1262/picture13kc.png

note: it says M14 because hes changing to the M14 after getting a kill with the AK-74u Alex dlc 12:15, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

GL/Shotgun?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIPhXswlnU

~1:14 ^^ WTF is this? Shotgun?

Also later some CZ74 gameplay Morihaus 14:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

thats the stakeout shotgun Alex dlc 17:21, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Update the page
We need to update this page and add all of the multiplayer info from the recent event. Here is a list of videos that should be analyzed and added to the page by a registered person.

Create a Class: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAM5AZxmT_M&feature=player_embedded

Team Death Match Gameplay With Commentary: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

Wager Match (Gun Game) Gameplay With Commentary: Part 1 Part 2

Another Wager Match (Gun Game) Gameplay With Commentary: Part 1 Part 2 Part 3

Sth new
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLYY-7Q8878

^gun game

Many guns one by one...including clear view of HK21, M60 and more Morihaus 15:33, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

And the rest of gameplay...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2FopStMJok Morihaus 15:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

new footage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkBWuWyrmp4

confirms g11 in multiplayer, shows of HUD of certain killstreaks etc etc.

also shows accompanying text for equiptment, such as TACTICAL INSERTIONS WTF Ashwilson12 15:54, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

also ALL EQUIPMENT DETAILED!!! Jammer(placeable scrambler device)/Tac.Ins(eh..)/c4/claymore/motion sensor Deep Impact as a Tier2 perk ASP in action Morihaus 16:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

It's the CHINA LAKE, not the Thumper
Please, I'm pretty sure it's not the Thumper in the game, but its pump action cousin, the China Lake! Stop adding that it's the Thumper!

Random Man 0213 16:26, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I think he's right. Also look at "sth new" - ~1:14 and some time later unknown shotgun(before mac11 akimbo swap) Morihaus 16:46, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

New SMG Spoted:d also G11 proof!!!! by Morihaus
Spectre M4 SMG and G11 - for now - unconfirmed:D Proof on the way. Morihaus 17:10, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/callofduty7workingtitle/news.html?sid=6274928&tag=topslot;img;1&mode=previews

EDIT:G11(game model + killfeed) Spectre M4 SMG (game model + killfeed) Unknown shotgun/gl (mentioned in "sth new" article) killfeed Unknown SMG killfeed(not MP5k nor Spetre, sth else) EDIT: TEC9? LOL GTA: Black Ops?xD



(I'm a good gun-spotter, mommy! Am not I?:D)Morihaus 17:39, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: This "unknown sth" shotgun is a High Standard HS-10 Shotgun. Yeeees!!!! I'm invincible!!!!!xD Morihaus 17:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

where is this unknown shotgun? im pretty sure they have all been spotted already. show a pic or a link of the unkown shotgun please Alex dlc 18:04, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

in my "gl/shotgun?" title(on this page with video) (1:14 - few seconds later) there is an unknown shotgun with carrying handle raised. IMO there's only ONE bullpup shotgun matching these requirements : High Standard HS-10 Shotgun or its variant.

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh26-e.htm gameplay http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmIPhXswlnU (1:14 - 1:22) it was "sharphooter" mode (rotating weapons) i believe. But this could be sth like "care package" reward - as a "Death machine" idk. Also "killfeed icon screenshot" (clear not as at this ^ video) - image with blue dot in the centre/next to your post.(killfeed remember:D)

Also I spoted (I think i'm right:D) Spectre M4 SMG, Interdynamic MP9(I'm almost 100% sure about that) and G11 in-game(in-action) video below(somewhere)....Morihaus 18:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

oh sorry, i missed that strange shotgun. it could be hs10. wheres the tec9? Alex dlc 18:45, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

^Interdynamic MP9 I should have written:D Killfeed (another screen)Morihaus 18:51, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

MAC-11
There was a MAC-11 in real life. Should we make a new page for the MAC-11 or keep the info on the MAC-10 page?

Random Man 0213 17:21, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

a few things
who called it a thumper? of course its the china lake, why would anyone call it a thumper? also, someone added M40 to the snipers? wheres proof? Alex dlc 17:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

The Tomahawk
For some reason it is listed under "Lethal Grenades", when actually its not. Its the Native American throwing axe, so its more like a knife and should be put under Equipment instead. Also, for some reason it is a Red Link, but when I go to create the article for it it already exists, but yet somehow its still a red link. That doesn't make sense.

Yo bro, its under Throwing Knife at the moment.  Helljumper "Noble Team ready for combat insertion."

of course the tomahawk isnt a grenade. everyone knows its an axe. but in the game its in the same section as the frag. this should not be put under equipment since equipment is stuff like claymore, c4.... Alex dlc 18:02, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

G11 proof
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/9061/picture16l.png Alex dlc 17:52, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

hk 21 machine gun
on youtube, if you search for the video, "seananners plays the gun game pt 1" and pause the video at 0:49-0:50. look in the bottom right hand corner and you will see he is using a hk21 machine gun this is not on any website i have seen so i wanted this to be remedied.

the HK21 has already been found hours ago. Alex dlc 17:57, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Enfield
enfield does look like that toy gun treyarch had. we still dont know the exact model (l85, l98....etc)

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9707/picture17uc.png Alex dlc 17:59, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

That's not an L85, that's the XL64, a genuine prototype version of the SA80 family.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L64/65 Darkman 4 18:09, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

dude, i never said it was an l85, that was just an example of what it might be. calm down! Alex dlc 18:23, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * I didn't mean to insult you; I was just surprised that they added a real prototype. Darkman 4 18:25, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * And one which would actually exist at the time... 18:34, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * why would you be surprised of that when the MP5k is a prototype?
 * why would you be surprised of that when the MP5k is a prototype?


 * and who added that HS10 shotgun? wheres the proof? Alex dlc 18:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * nevermind, it does look like a hs10 i guess Alex dlc 18:47, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I Wonder If...
The M3 Grease Gun will make a return in BO? It would be rather odd for it not to considering the it was the main SMG of US military, especially in the special forces, up until the early-mid 80's. Here's to hoping! --LOST-The Cartographer 19:15, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

New stuff not added yet
First is all the wager game mode and all of its game types

then some guns

m240 submachine gun

m14

scorpion akimbo seen in video

wa2000

and i think its called death machine

and a gun that looks like a p90

plz add and dont say anythings not true cuase it is and i have proof http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fh0hGb2RUA0


 * Good Lord did you even look at the friggin comments? This info has been posted and reposted two dozen times already! also look at the friggin main page! All this info was has been added already! Check before you post! --LOST-The Cartographer 19:42, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * def not added yet Ashwilson12 21:03, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Like what? The WA2000 has been added, the death machine has, the Skorpian has, the M14, and the "M240" & "P90" looking guns I can guarantee are among the ones added. --LOST-The Cartographer 01:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Deep Impact as a Tier2 perk
^ I believe i saw in Creat-a-Class video(for a glimpse of a second) near the end - bullet image on the red(orange?)background also i one of the videos there is exactly THE SAME image in a killfeed(bullet on a red background/the same backg. as for knives, i believe)...idk what it meansMorihaus 19:41, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * We got all the perks already. YuriKaslov 19:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

^He He He...Overworked mind can see different things...You're right, sir!Morihaus 20:19, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

MAC-11 dual wield in multiplayer
While watching some BO multiplayer videos i noticed in sharp shooter it said MAC-11 Dual wield if you pause when the name come up you can see that its a mac-11 not mac-10.Sgt Sprinkles 20:36, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

can you read? i posted this before!!!! Alex dlc 21:22, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Oh i never saw it sorry.Sgt Sprinkles 21:25, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

What happened to Stopping Power??
Stopping Power is one of the most popular perks in the COD series, but it looks like it isn't being included in Black Ops. This means Black Ops will be the very first game to not have this perk. Since we don't know what the effects of the perks are at the moment it is possible that the effects of Stopping Power have been put into one of those perks, but with a different name. Or maybe it just means that Treyarch just got rid of it, similar to how Infinity Ward got rid of Juggernaut because of the complaints surrounding it. Could that be the case here? 99.181.98.64 21:11, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

It was horrifically over-used, and I salute Treyarch for having the brains and balls to take it out. A Lonely Nomad 21:13, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

But it might have been merged into one of the other perks. Just like how Dead Silence got merged into Ninja in MW2. Until we know what the effects of all these weird new Perks are we can't really say the effects of Stopping Power are really gone, but in any case it does look like it won't be called that anymore. 99.181.98.64 21:18, September 2, 2010 (UTC)


 * None of the perks present would seem to have stopping power as a pro effect, they most likely removed it. 21:23, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

I hope it doesnt appear in Black Ops in any form.

Uhm, all of the CoD games before CoD4 didn't have Stopping Power. 21:23, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

Stopping Power was only there to balance out Juggernaut. Since that's gone too... 21:20, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

So much love for Treyarch for taking stopping power out. it was beyond a joke in the first place, how due to its nature some weapons would benefit so much more than others. perhaps now people will use the other perks in the game. Ashwilson12 22:40, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

its an MPL, not a mp9
http://world.guns.ru/smg/walther_mpl_2.jpg Alex dlc 21:25, September 2, 2010 (UTC)

need proof
looking for proof of Strela, Cz75, ASP, PM63 thanx Alex dlc 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sign your posts, and that stuff was all in the CaC menu. YuriKaslov 21:50, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * i always sign my posts, this time i just forgot. and if you say they are in the CaC menu, that still dosnt help. i mean, show me the video where they apear. Alex dlc 22:43, September 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Watch the Create a Class 2.0 vid. The Cz75 is listed. --LOST-The Cartographer 03:32, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

New video
G4TV showed this video: http://g4tv.com/videos/48464/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Character-Customization-Commentary-/

It show's some more gameplay and character/ emblem customization. You can mix emblems.XDEATHMAN4aP90x 00:17, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reticlesl

 * Dot
 * Semicircle
 * Line with dot
 * Circle
 * Smiley
 * Arrows Horizontal
 * Arrows Vertical
 * Arrows with dot
 * Boxes
 * Burst
 * Circle within a circle
 * Circle with dot
 * Circle with Crosshairs
 * Circle with inner line
 * Circle with outer line
 * Circle with arrows
 * Circle with triangles
 * Outer crosshairs
 * Small crosshairs
 * Large crosshairs
 * Diamond
 * Diamond outline
 * Heart
 * Radiation
 * Skull
 * Square
 * Square outline
 * Star
 * 3 dots
 * Treyarch
 * Triangle
 * Outer triangles
 * x
 * X with dot
 * yin yan

Duckcall00 00:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

About the Tacs.
I think treyarch will prevent the tacs from being places within a certain distance from each other.

Thumper
I saw thumper in gameplay....we should add it.

Oh i think I saw M1 Garand too..

china lake and m14Sgt Sprinkles 01:45, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

how annoying. its china lake and m14. shut up. oh and i saw a ferrari in the game, we should add it....... ¬¬ Alex dlc 02:01, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

beretta = olympia
update: beretta = OlympiaAlex dlc 02:17, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

confirmed in g4tv video

PM63 SMG
New SMG (or at least not posted), PM63 seen at 1:37:

http://g4tv.com/videos/48452/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Wager-Match-Gameplay-Video/?quality=hd

Ferrariguy1000 03:05, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Split screen online
has anyone noticed the option to have split screen online? -- IDave Ja VuTalkcontribs 03:44, September 3, 2010 (UTC)