Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2/Archive 17

What Do you get for prestigeing ?
I want to kno because im 2nd prestige and i have got nothing from it The Improviser 18:57, November 28, 2009 (UTC)

Well I'm first prestige and have gotten new challenges, create a class slots + titles and emblems. If your questioning about every prestige and getting something then I don't think you get something everytime. Dale08 10:10, December 5, 2009 (UTC)

im first prestige and i looked around on the site and you get a new title for getting level 2 on every prestige

Holographic Sight
The holographic Sight is not a link in the Modern Warfare 2 weapons template, think it should be? November 27, 2009

Error in information
It it stated that to unlock the Fall camoflague that you need 200 headshots, but it is actually 250. This needs to be rectified. 92.11.26.34 21:41, November 19, 2009 (UTC) Earth090

yup some idiot did that

Under call signs it says to acquire toxic you need to be nuked and be alive at the time. I was nuked and the round after I called in a nuke and neither my friend or I received the unlock though we were both alive at the time of both nukes.

(sp0pps) You have to be nuked, as in by an enemy player and losing the game.

In the voiceover section it states the following "Barry Pepper - A Canadian-born actor who played the Christian sniper Pvt. Daniel Jackson in Saving Private Ryan...". This was untrue Pvt. Daniel Jackson was Jewish as stated when he mocked German POW's by holding up his "magen david" and saying "juden", which is german for jew. (narofrost)

You're thinking of Pvt. Stanley Mellish (played by Adam Goldberg). The sniper frequently kissed his cross before taking a shot (asking Jesus to help him) so he's definately not Jewish :) Too

Fox News to tackle MW2
http://www.gamepolitics.com/2009/11/10/tivo-alert-fox-news-tackle-mw2

Well... It was bound to happen eventually... They're going to have a field day with No Russian, I just know it.--WouldYouKindly 02:44, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

yah, my local news station had a part on the game saying it's bad to release the game before rememberence day. Also they interviewed ww2 soliders about the game. 02:54, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Theyre probably gonna connect this with the Fort hood shooting in some really stupid way... --Slowrider7 04:00, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, knowing these TV stations, they will do that. They love the idea of things like this happening, like the GTA influencing people to go and kill real police officers. They love the idea of the bullet theory, (for anyone who knows what I am talking about). Attack Rhino 04:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Bullet theory = You can get away with more in a game than IRL? --Slowrider7 04:19, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * No, no no. Sorry, might be a bit out of you depth. It is also known as the hypodermic needle theory.

This is the general theory:


 * the messages from anything that is watched, heard or read is shot from a gun or injected from a needle into the audiences' mind. This means that any message that is presented in any media text (book, TV show, film, radio program or even game) and directly absorbed by the people in the audience. This then means that any possible ideas conveyed will be taken by the audience, such as an example of a little kid watching Superman on the TV, he then want so dress up in the costume and promptly fly like his hero, by jumping off the roof of his house. Another example is that of people wanting to, or acting out things that happen in the GTA games, like killing police officers and stealing TAXI's and other cars. There is also the ideas that Doom was the reason why the Columbine High School massacre happened, of course that is not the reason, but this al leads back o the fact that is says that people might see something violent on the TV or play a violent game, and then want to act out those events from the game or show in real life.

That was but a small taste of what this theory is about. I think that is the reason why FOX NEWS and other programs and station would jump on the idea of pointing the finger at IW for the No Russian level in the game. Attack Rhino 06:33, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Surprisingly, none of the Aussie news stations have said anything (postitive or otherwise) about MW2. That kind of amazed me, knowing Win News (for those who've seen the 'Jeff Goldbloom is dead thing, youtube it) they'll get a lot of shite wrong about this game....No field days over here, yet.... Cpt. Carebear

I wonder how the Anon will take the news... not that they have any special interest in MW2 but they have a real axe to grind with Fox News. OmgHAX! 06:16, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

What would you expect from Fox News? They claimed Mass Effect had an interactive sex scene, and instead of apologizing and correcting their "mistake," they invited the devs to the show so they could explain what it really was. All it's for is airtime, ratings, and most of all, money. Chief You know, I think I recall some no-name politician tried blaming 9/11 on Halo: Combat Evolved when if fact, it came out after Sept. 11. I guess that's videogame politics for you; we're an easy scapegoat that ultra right-wingers love to take shots at, but when it comes to the facts, they'll just toss it out window and make their opinions the truth. You know who they should send to Fox? Adam Sessler. He would totally school them and make them shut their mouths. [[User:Chief z|Chief z 15:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE-nOCy7FfE

Not only did they completely misrepresent the game, but the guy defendrtant character. The same problem my also have happened with Doc, but I can't confirm anything. I was just wondering if somebody can take Rocket's name out of the list completely. Lotsi 03:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC) 2009 (UTC)


 * don't worry, you will find out anyway. By the way, I like the .45 more anyway. Attack Rhino 06:35, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

the .45? The M1911 IS a .45 ACP weapon :P 195.35.143.19 11:11, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * Ooops, sorry. I meant the USP .45 instead. By the way, they use the same ammo, oh well. Attack Rhino 22:29, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Steam?
Ok seriously i got the game today and its taking for ever to download after i installed it on steam therefore i cannot play the game until it finishes seriously how long did it take foe everyone elses to download? SLAUGHTERER 23:37, November 11, 2009 (UTC).

I have it on steam too, but it doesn't unlock till midnight tonight. MrJoe95 14:25, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

What do you mean it doesn't unlock until 12:00 at midnight. SLAUGHTERER 23:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC).

Weapons only available in singleplayer?
So, I've been reading up on MW2, and on this wiki, it says that several weapons are only available in singleplayer. Why would IW do this? If you're going to have the guns programmed into the game anyway, why not put them in multiplayer? I'm especially pissed because this happened to one of my favorite guns, the G3. Broeman 11:06, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah that sucks, I love the G3 too. But I suppose it's because there's a lot more verity in the weapons available. It's like when you only try one thing because you only know it. Maybe their promting us to use more guns, I'm a little disappointed that the Dragunov's not gonna be in MP but I'll enjoy using the other sniper rifles as well. Cpt. Carebear

Maybe Infinity Ward didn't included them in multiplayer because adding the G3 and the FAL (a similar weapon) doesn't make a lot of sense. Both weapons are similar, but Infinity Ward prefered the FAL because it is new to the series and is much more known to people than the G3. Each weapon is balanced to be different from others, imaging if the game includes the AK-47 and the AK-103 (a newer model), how will IW make them unique from each other? Don't worry, the FAL is the replacement of the G3 in MP with probably the same stats. - SMG097HC

True, I think it's better to have a newer, more updated version of a gun than to have two that are closely related to eachother. Really good point SMG Cpt. Carebear

M16, forgot the rest. but i noticed it a few times in singleplayer but have not seen it listed anywhere in multiplayer.

The M16 is available on the 40th level in multiplayer. Anyway, I miss the M1911.--OutlawODST

Triple-A
I think the Russian anti-aircraft gun is a Tungunska, but I haven't seen one close enough to tell. Can anyone verify? OmgHAX! 15:48, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Multiplayer
When I go on multiplayer, it comes with a box saying "Connecting to Matchmaking Server...". It's being going for about 15 minutes trying to connect and I'm really disappointed. Has this happened to anyone else? Ashdude01 20:01


 * The PS3 connection server is down due to overload. The 3rd party company that runs the server is currently trying to fix this problem. 72.195.147.117 21:24, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Yeh I got that same message 22:12, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Is it happening to the PC ones as well because i want to play it when i get home today.SLAUGHTERER 23:36, November 11, 2009 (UTC).
 * MP is working fine on the PC. Darkman 4 23:38, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Well thats a Relief thanks Darkman i appreciate bro. By the way do you have it on pc? because if you do talk to me on me talk page and i can give you my steam Name and you can add me if you want. SLAUGHTERER 23:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC).

can someone put the weapon classes for multiplayer on please i haven't bought the game yet and i want to know them

PC
Does anyone know why there are two dics in the PC version?? When i actualy put in the 2nd dics it dosen't do anything except the computer saying it can't find anything.... What is it for?? --Colonel Swede 21:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

can someone put the selectable weapon classes for multiplayer on please i haven't bought the game yet and i want to know them

Original CoD
Um, have any of you who got the prestige or hardened edition of the game downloaded the original CoD with that code. And did it work? Can you play the game 22:14, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * I finally got around to playing it yesterday. It works great except that they make you use the old button setup (hard on people like me who prefer Tactical). It comes with 200 points worth of Achivements, all of which seem pretty easy. I've only played the first couple levels though, because I felt like going back to Modern Warfare 2.  Captain Baird  Comm-LinkService Record 16:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

ah thats good, Im haveing trouble downloading it for ps3 tho. I enter the code and it takes me too the ps store. I click down full game rather than demo and it starts but it takes really quick wich is wierd. Then when I go to play the game, it's not there. 21:15, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

soap
is soap's real first name john

No but Price first name is John.... John Price as revealed in the game --Colonel Swede 23:15, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

then what is soap's real name (and its not soap because when seen in the game it is always "soap" mactavish which means its a nickname)

It is Soap Mactavish. --99.8.47.225 23:59, November 11, 2009 (UTC)


 * No it's not. His first name isn't "Soap", it's a nickname. Many characters in the game have this such as "Meat". I know I saw Soap's first name somewhere, trying to find it 72.195.147.117 00:48, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think somewhere earlier it was revealed as "John" in CoD4, but whether it was true or not is unknown. PhantBat 11:44, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

John "Soap" MacTavish

I have spent a while looking for his real name just to know, it's never revealed, althought it is most likely Scottish in origin if that helps.

Try looking at the charachter breifing for FNG on CoD4. I think it said his name was John

Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3
Will there be a Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 I was just thinking this because of the end of CodMW2 when Price and Soap get away on Nikolis Heli. There will be no modern warfare 3. I have leaked info that infinity ward is starting over with there next game.

Also when the Rangers take back Whiskey Hotel they talk about launching a counter attack against russia.... --Colonel Swede 23:46, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

Almost certainly. The ending sets up a sequel perfectly.--WouldYouKindly 23:49, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

The fact that Soap and Price become war criminals seems like they're going to fight underground now, no longer with UN support. Makarov's still alive, too. I hope IW brings them back in a convincing way. OmgHAX! 23:53, November 11, 2009 (UTC)

There damn well better be a Modern Warfare 3. I hate cliffhangers. Except the mission. That was a great mission. 02:36, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

MW2 showed exactly how to do a cliffhanger (I'm looking at you Halo 2) even though I hate them. At least with this one I had a huge sense of satisfaction. How you kill him was fucking amazing. Chief z 03:30, November 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, that was probably the most badass kill I've ever seen in a game. DarkSPC.pngSpc. SoLAXD(m) Talk 04:08, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I wrote in my blog about a MW3, I think it was all planned, IW is trying to unseat HALO as the greatest video game trilogy of all time. We should have a suggestion section in the forum. Great way to end the second part though. PhantBat 11:42, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I hope MW3 tells us how Price got in that prison,and a lot of other things between mw1 and mw2. 01:58, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think that soap and price will join kamarov and the loyalists from cod4 to take back russia and gain the UN's support Supermaverick5 07:31, November 14, 2009 (UTC)Supermaverick5

do you think they'll have a flamethrower like waw?

Actually, there may not be a cod:mw3, as a lot of us players won't buy the game if they here that towards the end you kill delta force style U.S. troops as an S.A.S man.--Slacky!!! 14:03, November 14, 2009 (UTC) I see your point, but those troops were Shepherd's own private squad. plus people will still buy cod:mw3 if it comes out.

I had been thinking of this since the first archive! Look in the first trailer. before the big 2 lights up there is a 3 right next to it. No Coincidence. --Joem25 15:08, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It's not a matter of Single Player sucking; rather, Infinity Ward royally screwed up the Multi-player with the discontinuing of dedicated servers (at least for the PC version). There has to be another sequel to COD:MW2 because 1) Soap, Price, and Nikolai continue to live, 2) Kamarov has to make some sort of re-appearance (they would not have dropped him completely for the game when he did in fact rescue you in COD:MW), 3) the ending of the game is the perfect set up. As soon as Nikolai says "Da... I know a place," the screen cuts to the credits, just like a cliffhanger movie. All hope in Infinity Ward would be lost, and IW's name would be tarnished because of their failure in delivering another fascinating sequel. --Who123 19:30, December 02, 2009

Do you not just think they will bring out extra single player DLC? with a good part of the story in?

wasn't there something about ghost getting his own game on a DLC??

campaign
The levels are not in chronological order. The mission where you must get to the White House is directly after the level where Price launches the bomb.   Critchell   Sniper  00:43, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I just fixed the order, it looks somewhat like the order in the game. Lotsi 03:00, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think someone needs to permanately edit the plot section, clarifying Shepherd actually wanting Makarov to start the war and payed him to do so. That's why he kills you in Loose Ends; his name is the DSM you retrieve, he doesn't want the war to end, simply for America to counter-attack and do alot of damage. The whole game is based on Shock and Awe from COD 4; making revenge the main theme of the game.

Too bad he didn't pay Makarov to do anything. The DSM contained information about his plotting to take over the military. Or something. It contained something about him wanting revenge about Shock and Awe. The war starts because Makarov noticed Allen wasn't Russian, and that if he left the body there, Russia would want war. Shepard didn't want to start it. Being Shepard's elite squad, the squad would obviously want to see what was on the DSM, so he kills you so you can't find out.

Does anyone think that the two modern warfare games make Americans look bad, I mean in the first one we get nuked and the limeys take revenge for us, now in MW2 a Lieutenant General is a traitor, and the brits have to save everybody again. I don't know it just something I noticed, I liked the modern warfare games, but I liked the WW2 ones better, I mean with Call of Duty 2 you got 27 single player levels for $20 less then MW2, also the graphics were pretty good in COD2 in addition you get a pretty historical game.

9.5
Guess what? Gametrailers came out with a review on Modern warfare 2 and gave them a 9.5! Wow! In truth I thought they would give them a lower score, with the lack of dedicated servers on the PC and stuff like that. This game is awesome!

Here's a link:

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-hd-modern-warfare/58370

Random Man 0213 01:34, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Raptor
I'm having some trouble figuring out who this "Raptor" fellow is. In Wolverines! the objective is to respond to the Russian invasion and all of a sudden it's like "There's Raptor! Let's go save him!" I'm thinking he's some Russian informant because right next to him in the meat locker is an AK-47. Then in Exodus the murdered HVI was killed by what seemed to be the same NPC models from No Russian (suits with combat vests). Chief z 03:39, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think the HVI was one of Shepherd's people from Shadow Company, since the HVI's bodyguards were wearing the same uniforms as Shadow Company. As far as Raptor goes, I have no idea who he was. PhantBat 11:42, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

OK. I'm going to go edit those two pages because whoever wrote it thought they were the same person. Chief z 12:53, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

yeah he was some guy search raptor on this wiki.

2 Discs PC
Ok When i bought the game i had opened it and i saw 2 discs and i said what the F*** is this. Whats the 2nd disc meant to be for? i haven't tried it yet and i sure won't try it as i am to busy playing online multiplayer then looking at what the second disc is. Anyone know what it's meant to be for? SLAUGHTERER 11:47, November 12, 2009 (UTC)>

No offence, but what do you think its for? its for installing the game... its not like its uncommon, esp considering cod6 is 11gig --Ashwilson12 16:09, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

You need both discs to install the game. At least I did, and every PC gaming friend I have. Have you actually played the game yet? You shouldn't have been able to even complete the installation without the use of both discs. Not all of the game files are contained on the first disc. 00:38, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

The first Disc is for Installing single player and multiplayer but the second disc isn't for anything as i haven't tried it yet so basically the first disc is to install both single player and multiplayer. SLAUGHTERER 23:59, November 12, 2009 (UTC).

mistake in trivia section
Early in the trivia section its stated that there is a motorcycle in the hardened edition art book strongly hinting toward it in the campaign but in the book they say they went through many ideas of chase scenes before they came up with the snowmobile chase. It probably means they were thinking about using a motorcycle chase instead of snowmobile and the picture is just concept art.

modern warfare 2
Does Modern warfare 2 take place in the year 2016? because i think i herd someone say that it takes place in that year and Modern warfare took place in 2011? is that right? SLAUGHTERER 11:46, November 12, 2009 (UTC).

Yes. Chief z 12:51, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

Thats pretty cool. SLAUGHTERER 03:52, November 13, 2009 (UTC).

Intel Pieces???
Can anyone tell me what the intels in MW2 are used for? I collected all 45 of them and there is no "Cheats" menu or something. Or do you have to complete the SP on all difficulties to unlock that? If not, what is their use? 92.229.122.203 23:25, November 12, 2009 (UTC)

They are in both Modern Warfare's and both are only used for achievement purposes. I collected all 45 and nothing happens just beat 2 achievements.

From what I can tell, it may be only used for achievements/trophies. I haven't collected them all yet, so I can't be sure. Did you check the options menu? That's where it was in CoD4. Chief z 03:45, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hey I was wondering if the intel locations have been posted, couldn't find them on the page.

yeah... can they post the classes that you don't make yourself as well like the ghost and war fighter on cod4.

There are none of these now you get create a class in split screen now as well.

I'm looking up achievement hunter for intel locations. OmgHAX! 20:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

spec ops
do u have to beat the game to unlock it or is it available at the beginning of the game

Its available from the start. Its completely seperate from campaign. OmgHAX! 01:51, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

I have a question. I am going to buy this game this weekend,, but my dad was wondering if it would work for an 80 Gig ps3. I think it will, but I wanted to make sure. AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield 02:14, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Of course it will, the gig size does not make a difference. Doc.Richtofen 16:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for clearing that up. Now i can tell my dad to stop worrying. :)AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield 21:49, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

can two people play co-op spec ops on the same xbox split screen

Yes. You click Spec Ops and the Splitscreen, and it'll let you play to player on the same Xbox.

Hey guys, try this SP weapon set out.
Glock 18 + Akimbo Mini Uzi. Loads of fun. (If you cant tell I just got my game, thank god for generous bosses paying early! Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!) --Slowrider7 03:57, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

do u think UMP.45 + ranger akimbo would be good?

Akimbo on what gun? I havent tried the Ranger yet, but no not the UMP. Try Akimbo MP5K. --Slowrider7 04:29, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

akimbo on ranger the sawed off shotgun thingy

what about vector rds + ranger with akimbo scavenger, stopping power and ninja. can u get grip on pistols and ranger??????

MW2 shatters records, and other news
We all saw this coming. Modern Warfare 2 has the biggest launch sales in history across all forms of entertainment. To put that in perspective, GTA IV grossed $310M worldwide in it's first day. MW2 matched that in the US and UK alone. The Dark Knight opened with $150M and Halo 3 made $300M in its first week. PS3 servers crashed due to the influx (there's the explanation for you PS3 guys).

Among other news, Micrsoft is bringing out the Banhammer on users who've modded their Xbox to play pirated discs (although some were wrongfully banned). And my favorite, an Austrailian military bomb-sniffing dog is found after 14 months MIA by US forces and returned alive and well.

Links: Chief z 04:06, November 13, 2009 (UTC)
 * MW2 record: http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/-modern-warfare-2-breaks-day-one-entertainment-sales-record/1372471
 * Xbox bans:http://videogames.yahoo.com/events/plugged-in/wave-of-bans-hits-xbox-live/1372276
 * MIA dog:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/ap_on_re_as/as_australia_afghan_retreiver_returns

Damn, that is awesome news about the dog. Attack Rhino 06:08, November 13, 2009 (UTC)

Hey the game was in my opinion the most anticipated game of '09 this was proven when the game was pre-ordered by 3 million people for all systems and sold 4.7 million copies of the game in the first 24 hours!!!Supermaverick5 07:36, November 14, 2009 (UTC)Supermaverick5

Cool news about the dog, always good to hear our doggie diggers are alive and well....and you slept Australia wrong, And I so totally knew the MW2 would kick Halo's arse. GO COD SERIES! :D Cpt. Carebear 9:21PM (AEST)


 * Sorry about that. But yeah, I always like stories about military dogs. I watched a special on the Military Channel about a Marine in Afghanistan who found a dog after a battle. He adopted it and sent it home to his wife. Very touching. Chief z 12:16, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

It's good to hear some good stories that come out of war, though maybe, sometimes (I think), there should be more about what's actually going on...and not about the bullshit politicians who are trying to get a pay rise. That's all we hear, Ruddy saying "We will not pledge anymore troops to the war." Man he sucks, this is coming from a 14 year old kid too. Cpt. Carebear

AA-12
Just to let you know i have fixed up the level you unlock the AA-12 shotgun for your secondary weapon as it was incorrect and it has now been put to the correct level. Hopefully that's the right level i am 100% sure it is anyway. Anyways just to let you's all know so that people don't freak out and say who changed this and stuffed it up blah blah blah. SLAUGHTERER 15:07, November 13, 2009 (UTC).

MATCH CLASSES
DOES ANYONE KNOW THE WEAPON cLASSES FOR MULTIPLAYER AND ALSO THE ONES THAT AREN'T ON XBOX LIVE AND STUFF.

please

yeah sum 1 shud aye! liambobjobs 8:42 November 14 2009

why don't you do it?

cant i havnt got it yet :( liambobjobs 8:47 November 14 2009

o nether have i. i gonna get it thursday

sum1 should put them on!!! liambobjobs 10;47 November 15 2009

put them on!!!!!!!!!

yeeah put them on! liambobjobs 3:31 November 15 2009

yaaaaay put them on

Uhmm just a quick notice please sign when you are finished writing in a talk page as it hard to know who is talking if it is just one person or the other. so remember to sign please. SLAUGHTERER 11:07, November 15, 2009 (UTC).

Ok then callofdutynut2 4:21 November 2009

Gold Weapons?
Is there Gold Weapons in Modern warfare 2?SLAUGHTERER 04:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC).

i thought the fall camouflage was replacing it

None that I can find... But Urban camo is just as good if not better than gold. Slowrider7

I have Urban camo after all the hard work trying to get to 30 headshots but i can really aim because of my computer on my tv screen i really want it of there it was my mums idea not mine. SLAUGHTERER 11:05, November 15, 2009 (UTC).

Ign Review
http://pc.ign.com/articles/104/1043744p1.html - They gave it a 9.5 out of ten. Though, they didn't take too kindly on the short, rushed single player campaign. 13:21, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

Prestige goggles
Finnaly got 'em and they are sweet:) Real NVGs! Only downside is visual restriction, but doesn't matter! They are great!--Slacky!!! 13:53, November 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * There's a knob in the front by the camera for focusing, and once their focused they're freakin' amazing. --Joem25 22:42, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

sons of Bit**** can i have a go please lol i want to see what they are like badly. SLAUGHTERER 08:30, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

if you use pro on a perk do you get the normal perk aswell?
i was wondering if you use a perk with pro is the pro and non pro one perk?

Yes, you get the benefits of both perks. The Gamer 13 22:51, November 14, 2009 (UTC)

thanks it inst really made clear on the wiki and some of the pro parts of the perk seem worse than the normal part of it

I was wondering the same thing. I ,however, have a glitch with my Commando perk where I run out of sprint after a while.--OutlawODST

but commando is faster melee and pro is vault obstacles faster.

You guys are retarded MARATHON is infinite sprint, MARATHON PRO is vaulting obstacles faster, and COMMANDO PRO makes you immune to FALL DAMAGE. CoD addictCoD addict

DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD post the classes that you don't make yourself as well like the ghost and war fighter on cod4.THE OFFLINE CLASSES THAT YOU DON'T CUSTOMIZE YOURSELF.

are you the one that did the other match class thing? liambobjobs 2:59 November 2009

maybe...

lol liambobjobs 3:13 November 2009

TAR-21
Well I have to say this is my favorite gun, but the reason I am posting this is because it seems to have extremely high damage for an automatic assault rifle. Especially with stopping power, this gun is unstoppable. Anyone else seeing this? 11:06, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

The LSW also seems to be very powerful compared to other machine guns. I'm trying to figure out the damage of these guns through trial and error. I think the TAR's damage is 40-30, as it only requires 1 hit at any range in hardcore, and that it seems to kill in 2 hits at close range with stopping power in core. 11:11, November 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I like the TAR-21 too! :) I also like the UMP .45, the SCAR-H, M4A1, and all the LMGs...

I haven't tried the TAR-21, even though I unlocked it. I don't know, but the SCAR-H is has this hold on me; high stopping power and the ironsights kick ass. That thing totally wrecks, and now that I got Scavenger Pro and most of the attachments (missing extended mags) it's even better. I'm averaging top 3 in Team Death. But I guess I'll try it out, seems to get great praise (402 says it's his favorite gun). Chief z 11:49, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah the Tar-21 is great but the only beef i have with it is the accuracy, i agree with Cheif Z that the SCAR-H is hands down the best assault rifle on MP. I have 3 different classes for it including one with a thermal on it for maps like wasteland and underpass...try it out BUTLER412

NATO
I began thinking yesterday. When Russia attacked the US why didn't NATO help them? Isen't NATO a military pact between the US and several other countries??

it takes time to send troops

I always wish they would show what Canada did. Like, i don't think Canada would just stand there and be like "meh, the US is gettin attacked. Whatevs". And i agree. NATO would get their ass over there ASAP


 * How much time is it between first contact and the EMP from the missile? Attack Rhino 05:18, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I've been thinking the same thing, since NATO would possibly help the US, unless it bought the Airport attack as a covert US strike or just wanted to "sit this one out". I think if there is a MW3 I think we would see NATO involvement. PhantBat 12:15, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

split screen
is there split screen for spec ops

yes, on consoles OhDeeEsTee 15:28, November 17, 2009 (PST)

Yes, there is split screen. When you go to Spec Ops just go to split screen then join the 2 controllers. (Charper2013)

A way to get the PC version to work on multiple computers if you have bought the game
I am not sure if this will 100% work but i am trying it tonight.If in your house or you have friends that want the game then this might work.You install the game on your own steam account.So this is the only account that your copy of MW2 will work on as it is registered to steam once installed.On someones elses computer(Friends or family that want a copy and dont want to pay for it) you log onto your steam account and download the game to that computer.Then you go onto the internet and download the non steam fix which enables you to play the game without logging onto steam.Im not sure if multiplayer will work with non steam fix but it might.I will post tommorow if this works or not and hopefully it does.I recommend downloading the non steam fix from Gamecopyworld. ?Whipsnap? 19:38, November 15, 2009 (UTC)

MP Map List
One of the maps is listed as 'Uprise'.. I'm fairly positive it is called 'Highrise'.

Small change. Actually, probably would have been quicker for me to register and change it myself! sorry.

I'll have all of the weapon stats within a week or two
Also, sorry for my recent inactivity, but, you know. Oh, and I already hit 20 kills in a game of Hardcore Search. :) Imrlybord7 08:02, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thats epic what level are you because i am a level 35 ;) lol SLAUGHTERER 08:26, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

I'm a level 53. My stats are awful though because I suck at everything except SnD, which I just started playing. Imrlybord7 14:03, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Voice Actors section update
Added Lance Henriksen to the Voice Actors section and altered Curtis Jackson's entry due to the fact that he does not portray any major characters in the game. His presence in the cast is maintained strictly for the sake of trivia. Removed Ken Lally's entry due to irrelevance Devilskin oi 19:31, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Edited voice actors to make bios for Kevin McKidd and Keith David more relevent Devilskin oi 19:05, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Someone should add General Shepard voiced by Lance Henriksen, he is another popular actor best known for his work in the Alien series. 68.37.225.92 08:15, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Citation needed for Curtis Jackson's role as V/O of Navy SEAL announcer in Multiplayer. Not to be crass or racist in any way, but the Navy SEAL announcer does not sound Black - he definitely sounds Caucasian. I know it was well published (via Infinity War press releases and the Twitter stream of Robert Bowling {fourzerotwo}) that Curtis voiced some of the individual soldier voices during multiplayer, but I can find no official Infinity Ward source listing him as the SEAL announcer. This needs to be verified or removed. Witness 00:32, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

Special Ops
Just something about allthe Special Ops levels.

Are they really necessary on the main page of the game? I mean, sure, we should have an overview, and a link to the main Special Ops page if there isn't already one, but I'm just not sure the names and descriptions of all the levels are necessary.

Modern warfare 3?
Is there going to be a thing such as modern warfare 3? i would just like to know thats all. SLAUGHTERER 09:10, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

Don't ask that. The answer is too obvious. --SSDGFCTCT9 11:21, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing there is going to be a third one am i correct? SLAUGHTERER 20:24, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

I think that soap and price will join kamarov and the loyalists from cod4 to take back russia and gain the UN's support Supermaverick5 06:24, November 17, 2009 (UTC)Supermaverick5

I hope there is, that would be sweet! Charper2013

Raptor - Wolverines! VIP
There seems to be a heap of confusion over who this codename "Raptor" is. Some are saying he's the president, some say he's a Russian from "No Russians", and on the whole people are saying he could be part of the senate, a member of cabinet, a commando solider or a general.

There seems to be a vibe that he's an important guy, with him becoming the teams primary objective. So obviously he isn't a random civvie or something. What is the verdict of Russian/American/British? Could someone post a picture of him? [Play out Wolverines! for five minutes to reach him in the meat locker.

Finally, his helicopter has the insignia of the 23rd Infantry, so maybe that is a clue?

- I don't think we can use the chopper for any evidence, as it also has the Air Combat Command insignia and says US Air Force on the side. The only thing that indicates any sort of affiliation is that you find and AK-47 next to him. I've done some CSIing in the game, and here's what I found: Chief z 11:41, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * AK-47 next to Raptor
 * HVI in "Exodus" seems to have been killed by someone he trusted ("No signs of forced entry"). Russian troop in the hallway has same tattoos as Makarov's men in "No Russian." There's also bloody footprints leading away from the panic room and the troop.
 * Shepherd wants both men secured; they possibly have evidence of his scheme.
 * Briefcase in "Exodus" contains unknown contents, possibly evidence.
 * Raptor can't be the prez: when Foley's squad reaches the bunker in "Second Sun" Dunn says "I hope they got out in time." Surely he would have not have mentioned them if Raptor was the prez. (If Raptor was the prez, Dunn would have recognized him since Foley ordered him to check Raptor.)

- Cheers Chief, if you have it on PC could you get a screenshot of his face? Would help his page and can easily be taken when prone and in his lap lol.

Your ideas makes sense mate, but does the presence of an AK-47 mean anything? Just wondering to be honest, and also going by what you're saying, do you think he's an American that knows too much and a target from Shepard, someone who could have been killed like the bloke in Exodus? -

Unfortunatley, I use the Xbox and I don't have a capture card (but going prone is how I got a closeup of the tattoos, hehe). However, I'll ask some people on the site to get some pics. As far as Raptor and the unnamed VIP go, I'm thinking they're Russian informants with connections to Makarov. If Makarov knew who this unnamed VIP is, it would explain how one of his men knew where to find him. Raptor, on the other hand, has much less evidence going for him. If he is Russian, it would explain the presence of the AK-47 next to him. It could have been picked up from the battlefield (Take this! Defend yourself! etc.), but I have a theory: when you start in Wolverines!, paratroopers are just beginning to land. There wouldn't have been enough time for them to regroup and converge on the Burger Town, much less with Rangers defending it (When you turn into the alley after you smoke the BTR, Russians seem to be regrouping). Instead of going out looking for a gun, it would have made much more sense for the Rangers who secured him to give Raptor their sidearm, unless he already had a gun with him. As far targets for Shepherd, I'm certain about it ("Then that's just one more loose end" and Shepherd personally assigns you to secure the VIP in "Exodus"). Also, the fact that Raptor has a codename calls his identity into question: why is he so important that he must keep his identity secret? It brings to mind Gone in Sixty Seconds where instead of calling the car by it's name, you say its codename so that anyone listening in hasn't got a clue who or what you're talking about. Man, I didn't realize how much I wrote. Anyhow, I'll continually look into this. Chief z 14:40, November 16, 2009 (UTC) - I've also done the mission again, and it seems as though when Foley names him, it's a little informal? Like simply saying 'Raptor has gone there' leads me to believe that the other Rangers would know who Raptor is. - I went to look up the 23rd on Wikipedia, apparently both Colin Powell and Norman Schwarzkopf and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge served in that unit as well. I'm thinking it's a code in game for a Cabinet Secretary either Defense Secretary of Homeland Secretary, besides we see the Defense Secretary with Shepherd later as well. Anybody know if anybody important lives in King George County? PhantBat 15:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC) - Interesting stuff there Batman, might lead to some interesting possiblities. If you're on PC could you get a picture of Raptor in the meat locker? Just prone and zoom into him as far as possible. Personally I think that the next Modern Warfare game shgould bring him back, he just seems to damn ilusive. Maybe he's an undercover agent? But if he's just a bloody businessman from America then that is anticlimatic to say the leastRaptor

I found a couple of things on the HVI in "Exodus": Also interesting to note, with the amount of blood around him, he's managed to keep his white shirt clean.
 * He has a cell phone in his hand (possibly calling someone?)
 * He has a black eye. The only signs of injury I found on him was blunt force trauma. No bullet wound (then again, no NPCs have bullet wounds).

Oh, by the way guys, I've started a forum topic about this here. Seems like we're crowding the talk page, and it's getting increasingly harder to find this section. Anyhow, I migrated everything that was said here to the forum, and I think it's best if we continue it there. Chief z 13:19, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Diffrent accounts?
Can you make diffrent accounts for PC instead of just one on steam? SLAUGHTERER 10:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC),

Cleanup
OK, I don't know if anyone else is thinking this, but I think the MW2 page needs a major cleanup. I think it should be compared to the CoD:4 page (like removing perks and weapons sections).   Maj.Gage   Talk . 11:18, November 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * That is very true. It seems too cluttered and full of stuff. I am thinking that most of the multiplayer info should be taken out, as it is just a repeat of what is said on the mutli page. I also think that the same thing should be done with Spec Ops, as both give unneeded info, that their respective pages already show. Attack Rhino 12:09, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Working on it. I've downsized the weapon list to include only a brief overview and the weapon box. Gonna try the SpecOps and the perks/attachments now. Chief z 11:15, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Ghost may get his own game
Found it on IGN. Here's the quote from Fairbrass himself: "I did in the last game a voice for a character called Gaz and in this game I'm now voicing a guy called Ghost, who now just got a spin-off comic of his own and they're talking about another little game to go with it."

Full article: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/104/1045373p1.html

Perhaps some DLC levels with Ghost? Because according to this, we might be getting additional online services in the future. Only time can tell. Chief z 14:04, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Now that would be sweet RaptorMW3 02:53, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Ghost's days were numbered so I wouldn't count on it.

Deagle
Does anyone know what attachments the Deagle takes?

Proberly as all the same other pistols i guess. SLAUGHTERER 20:25, November 16, 2009 (UTC).

The pistols all vary though...and the Magnum's the blank spot of the ones I know...

The Magnum and Deagle have the same attachments (FMJ, Akimbo, Tactical Knife). I havn't used the other pistols yet, but i think they are the same + a silencer option. |TMB| Fumbles on PC :)

That is true, but for the USP .45 and M9, They also come with the Extended Magazines.IIID Empire 17:35, Dec. 11, 09

EMP/ Tactical Nuke
I think it's worthwhile putting in the EMP is the only thing that stops the nuke. Lhj 20:27, November 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * I tried it on splitscreen and it doesn't work. But if anyone can PROVE you can do it online, by all means, put it on. OmgHAX! 20:36, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I know that in the private match a friend and I attempted this in the Nuke was stopped. But once again, not proved in normal online. Lhj 20:39, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Avatar pictures
We need screen caps of OpFor, militia and Spetsnaz characters, and perhaps TF 141, Rangers, SEALs and shadow company as well. All I can find online are the promotional pictures. Anyone got the PC version or a capture card? OmgHAX! 21:54, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sources on these two "facts"?
On the fact scroll on the home page it was stated that popular Modern Warfare maps from the first game would end up in the second, where was this posted and if true why is it not mentioned in the DLC section? Also the fact about a "Halo 3 like" video DLC coming later where is this from? Sources please? - Asian Inferno 23:07, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

Thats from way back i saw an interview where this was stated, i forget who was interviewed. --Cpt Jack House 12:12, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * what i meant was the "Halo 3 like" vid sharing was talked about, the Old maps returning seems unlikely as IW said i didnt not work with the new engine (killstreaks, new perks, etc.) --Cpt Jack House 12:14, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

Found it (Video Sharing) and added the source to the "Downloadable Content" section, still can't find the comment/interview on old maps though. Asian Inferno 23:08, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize
can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! can someone please put on the multiplayer slots that you don't customize!!!!! liambobjobs 8:39 17 November 2009

Ok to start of with i don't think you will get any attention because you have spammed the word four times and you haven't explained why you want them on there. Next time could you please... Please explain why you want certain things put up on the site. SLAUGHTERER 10:04, November 17, 2009 (UTC).

Are you freaking cool guy? I've seen you posting this for ages, when a simple Google search brings these results;

Grenadier FAMAS SPAS 12 Frag Grenades Stun Grenades x 2 Scavenger Perk Stopping Power Perk Commando Perk Copycat Deathstreak

First Recon UMP45 .44 Magnum Semtex Flash Grenade x 2 Marathon Perk Lightweight Perk Steady Aim Perk Copycat Deathstreak

Overwatch L86 LSw AT4 Semtex Flash Grenades x 2 Bling Perk Stopping Power Perk Steady Aim Perk Painkiller Perk

Scout Sniper Barrett .50 Cal USP .45 Tactical Insertion Smoke Grenade Sleight of Hand Perk Coldblooded Perk Scrambler Perk Copycat Deathstreak

Riot Control Riot Shield PP2000 Blast Shield Stun Grenade x 2 Marathon Perk Hardline Perk Commando Perk Painkiller Deathstreak

Next time ask Google, you absolute cool guy. BLOB 10:54, November 17, 2009 (GMT).

BlOb, you might wanna make that using enters. This guys smart brain can handle long sentences with all Capital Letters Like This. P.S.: Liam, says your rank get a life rank retards --Slowrider7 12:10, November 17, 2009 (UTC)

you guys are too nice to me and too harsh on yourself and to nice to me calling yourself rank retards and calling me cool your nice all DA best Liam liambobjobs 6:58 November 2009

Blob your acting like a real retard but liam i was just mentioning something but please accept my apologie but seriously Blob i am just saying he should explain why he wants them up so do me a favour please and don't make a fool of yourself and also i'm sorry liam for saying that but next time could you please explain why you would like them up there and the rest of the people may be able to help you out mate. :) its cool and i shall have a look for you.

Slaughterer, Blob, everyone else, I told a mod about this idiot. Im gonna try to get him IP Banned so that he cant even make a new account on his computer.

Who me or him LOL.

slowrider prolly meant him.

...nothings happened yet lol liambobjobs

Can mods please fix this page?
http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Gary_Sanderson

Theres is no proof that is Roach. --Slowrider7 12:22, November 17, 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought there was proof on Cliffhanger, oh well. Attack Rhino 06:53, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

- No proof Sgt. Sanderson is Roach? Doesn't every mission have his name as 'Roach' Sanderson?

How much proof do you need? When you start a TF 141 mission it say's Sgt Gary "roach" Sanderson. - Uh dude, it's the same person. If it wasn't the makers would put Gary "Roach" Sanderson...

Let's Rock N' Roll Y'all
This is a paragraph from the section "Game Crazy preview event" of the MW2 page.

"On August 25, 2009, a demo was shown for Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 with the team in Rio De Janiero. The demo started off with Sergeant Gary "Roach" Sanderson, Captain "Soap" MacTavish, Royce, and Meat running through a street chasing an important associate of Vladimir Makarov. I wanna rock and roll all night girls and boys. Also civilians are running for their lives from the enemies. Then MacTavish tells Roach to shoot him in the leg and he successfully does. Later Soap and another member close down a gate and are ready to interrogate the man while Royce and Meat accompanies Roach to continue down into the favelas where the upmost, intense action occurs. Soon civilians again run away, enemies spot the team members and shoot at them. Royce said to Roach to continue to fight from the rooftops. But the demo then ended without any further action of the level."

Anyone else see anything wrong with this? Sure, it's funny, but let's keep this page informational. It's been there for a while now. I'm surprised it hasn't been fixed yet.

71.107.56.188 07:31, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out. I took care out it, so now it's time to find the person who put it there in the first place. Chief z 14:14, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

It's called vandalism, not attempted humor. Every page is technically supposed to be 100% informational. That guy was a parasite, not an editor. Imrlybord7 14:26, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Found the guy who did it and I brought it to Chia's attention; so, all taken care of. Chief z 15:55, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

any one wanna add me on Steam for those PC gamers?
Hey guys i was wondering if anyone who plays it on PC wanted to add me on steam if you would like to add me on steam talk to me on my talk page. - Hey mate if you're on PC, could you get a screenshot of Raptor? He's the VIP in the Wolverines! mission.

Yeah i shall i have seen him around a few times.

Weapon stats from testing
All damages are 100% confirmed, rates of fire are estimations (good ones, though). Imrlybord7 14:25, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I was originally going to post something along the lines of "I will be deleting and rewriting all of the weapon pages soon. I don't even need to look at them to know they are shit," but I felt that that was overly judgmental and egotistical. Then I went to the L86 LSW page. It was shit. Imrlybord7 14:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

Also fix the AA-12. Im gonna give you the benefit of the doubt to make that alot better than a Wikipedia copypasta and random lines of crap. --Slowrider7 21:08, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

NPC Knifing
I'm playing Wolverines! and I see Sgt. Foley actually knife a guy in front of him (I even heard the slash); it wasn't even scripted. Anybody else notice other NPC's doing the same? Chief z 15:59, November 18, 2009 (UTC) -- lol I've never seen that happen, and you mean that he knifed a teammate right? Must be something gone wrong I guess, and also were you playing that mission to find out intel on the elusive Raptor :D

Sorry, I meant knifing a Russian. It's the first time I've seen one of the NPC's use a knife that wasn't scripted. But you are right about the second part; still getting info on Raptor. Chief z 10:38, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

TF 141
is roach possibly in the picture of TF 141? i was thinking far left standing up

na mate thats Cpl.Dunn if roach is in that then he would be far right under the word "Mr" but he probably isnt in there because IW dont make charcters faces, they make the player imagine them. ?Whipsnap? 22:09, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

1st lieutenant title
I have a rank level of 37 and i have not unlocked the 1st lieutenant title yet. Anyone know whats going on?

Probably just a glitch. Beat a challenge or something and re-check. Remember Slaughterer, not very many people have been playing enough to get that high so early, so we might not have any clue how to get certain things. --Slowrider7 02:33, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Good point but i am a level 38 now and still haven't got it.

Im level 23. Fail eh? --Slowrider7 12:13, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

I'm around there as well and I do have it.. weird ehh.

I am a level 44 now and i got it at level 39 i think i cant remeber.

Can the COD Wiki do this or is it the actual Wiki format standard?

 * First off I just wanna say I posted it here because this is the second most important page on this wikia.**

Is it possible to turn off or block summarys for talk pages? Seriously, I dont think anybody will be saying anything important enough the post a summary. Is that possible or its that a permanent function of the Wiki system? --Slowrider7 03:50, November 19, 2009 (UTC)

Wiki has incorrect entry
Under the TRIVIA section it lists:

"This is the first game to have killing unarmed civilians as an objective."

I played through the level with out harming a single civilian, so it could not have been an objective. I was forced to shoot at the opposing force after the civilian section, but soldiers/police officers are not civilians.

173.12.132.217 16:49, November 19, 2009 (UTC) Autobott

== Will the map packs have more Spec. Ops like Trearch did with nazi zombies. Nzombieslaya

Probably slaya, but this is the wrong place for that question. Please make a new section. And Autobott, ill change it. --Slowrider7 03:02, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

also, id like to point out that this statement is incorrect. Postal was. this game really isnt that controversial, when put up against a game like postal. just sayin'.

I actually belive carmageddon was one of the first civillian casualties. Elesium 18:10, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

modernwarfare2.com
what is going on with the modern warfare 2 site? it has a section on the main page that says its for registered members of Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 and will open soon. does anyone know why it hasnt opened yet? or what its for? havoc131

Modern warfare 3 footage
Brought to you by the Onion. OmgHAX! 18:22, November 20, 2009 (UTC)


 * Cant be real. 18:59, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty sure it's fake, well.....it is. hahaha. We havn't even seen a trailer for COD 7 yet lol 20:30, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Lmfao. Win. --Slowrider7 21:24, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

If you notice its all just footage of S.S.D.D., which leads me to wonder: do the NPCs there actually have funny quotes? I haven't noticed at all. OmgHAX! 23:51, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

That gave me a good laugh. But Hax, just go around and listen to what they say, it's hilarious. Here's my two favorites: Chief z 10:42, November 21, 2009 (UTC) Also
 * "Look at the way you hold your gun. It's like you're in the Civil War."
 * "Hey Private, you ever seen a grown man naked?" And yes, someone actually says that.
 * "You still gay?" CoD addict 01:42, November 22, 2009 (UTC)CoD addict

Well we know for sure Infinty Ward is making a Modern warfare3 because in mw2 u get on the heli at the end and go some where and then comes to the credits and then you like What the Fu**. That means there is gunna be a Modern warfare 3 i think thats what cod7 is maybe. Who knows really.

I doubt that COD 7 is gonna be MW2 because I'm pretty sure Treyach is making it. MW series is made by IW not Treyach. Maybe it'll be out in two years time, man some games' cliffhangers are worse than soap operas. Cpt. Carebear

MW2 tops sale charts
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/technology/973094/modern-warfare-2-sales-top-a590-million Okay, so we all had a feeling MW2 was going to be kick arse, but it smashed a few records. It even beat the gross earnings of Harry Popper 6 (hate that movie) and GTA IV. It's going to be hard for IW to top this one. :D And it's surprising Nine MSN didn't have a field day on the game.... Hahaha, Cpt. Carebear

Archive time
It's past that time already. We usually archive around 40 sections, but we're already pushing 60. Chief z 10:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Agreed mate, who is the moderator that will change this? RaptorMW3 02:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Original Style Deagle?
I noticed in the mission "Wolverines!" when you find "Raptor" there is a Modern Warfare 1 Desert Eagle next to him (Silver, not black, no laser sight under barrel). Unfortunately, you can't pick it up. Broeman 17:43, November 21, 2009 (UTC)

Cpl. Dunn also has one in S.S.D.D. 17:49, November 21, 2009 (UTC) -- The legend of Mr. Raptor lives on lol Maybe that's a sign he was in COD4 somehow?

GUYS URGENT
Guys this is really urgent i need to know how to make 2 Modern warfare 2 account on the one steam account.

Sorry man I have no idea, but hopefully you have the answer by now man RaptorMW3 04:08, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Timing Issue
Apparently the No Russian mission was at 8:40am on Day 3. The mission Wolverines! - a Russian invasion in retaliation, is in the following afternoon. Unless Makarov had his plans set in stone, his air force ready to go and the infantry primed this is impossible - to make invasion plans within 24 hours?


 * I would think it is still nigh impossible to be able to give a coherent, aggressive and very strong invasion within a week. There is really no point trying to think about MW2 in a very surgical and logical way, as it does not know the meaning. In nearly the whole game is there (for what I know) any logical and sound actions and reaction taking place. Do not try and understand what IW have done here, as it is not sound and possible enough for these events to take place. Attack Rhino 10:49, November 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Either its bad writing or simply Ultranationalists waiting for an excuse to invade. Knowing them, they would have prepared the invasion forces long in advance. OmgHAX! 21:56, November 22, 2009 (UTC)


 * Whoa, whoa. The Russians that attacked are not Ultranationalists.LW556DCJ 05:14, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

It's Russia which is under government control from the Ultra party right?RaptorMW3 07:38, November 23, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, they are still Russian Federation. You can see the Federation Armed Forces patch on their shoulder.

Theres no doubt that irl russia has their guns pointed at the states 24/7

IW Forums
You know i have been looking on the IW forums and i have seen so many people complain about no dedicated servers for PC i am laughing my arse off because they complain everyday about no dedicated servers i mean seriously they haven't even tried the game out to see what it is like because it has no dedicated servers. They all cancelled there pre orders because they have no dedicated servers for PC and they think IW failed for PC for MW2 but i think that IW net is an ok thing i mean you level up really quickly i seem to enjoy meeting new people all the time and having a little chat with them also getting good kills from people and also completing alot of good challenges. Really i don't think IW failed for PC gamers i mean sure i really do want dedicated servers back but i am not complaining about them i think IW net is really really good.

From what I've read, IW made PC players play the game like it was on a console (no stat tweaks, custom maps, etc.) I really don't see why those PCers are complaining; you'd be playing the greatest selling piece of entertainment in history just like everybody else. But hey, if they want to bitch about it and miss out, it's totally up to them. Chief z 13:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Early Detection callsign
I believe that the early detection callsign may be gained from getting x-number of first bloods in multiplayer. I definitely didn't get it from a UAV and I did get maybe my fifth or tenth first blood in the match that I received the callsign. Just wondering if this was the case with anyone else, because then the page could be changed. Nautilus1515 I think I have it, but I also have no idea what it's actually for :D RaptorMW3 13:30, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

what unlocked this emblem?
Not sure what I did to unlock this emblem and I can't find it on any lists anywhere. 70.211.122.222 23:04, November 22, 2009 (UTC)JBerd

MW2 banned in Australia?
I herd something about Modern warfare 2 been banned in australia after that russian airport mission that you do and the people who already have it are able to still play it but people who don't wont be able to play it. They say it could be banned by this Xmas is it true?


 * No, it was not banned. I think the media got to it and made out to be something much worse. Two of my friends have played it, they have also played the No Russian level also. Attack Rhino 11:26, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Ah ok well thats good to know for the people who don't have it yet :).
 * We just get a 'skip mission' option at the start of the game, however I don't think Australia will be banning MW2 anytime soon to be honest. Has Russia lifted the ban yet? RaptorMW3 13:29, November 23, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, there's a skip mission option in the paused part (also a skip mission all together before the game) but I think it's better, I'm not sadistic or anything, with that in there because it gives the plot a better background as to why there's a Russo-American pre-war going on. Gotta love those physcotic Russians like Makarov (personally the best characters in MW2). It's just the politicians wanted to get some airtime by pissing off every youth in Australia (they didn't do too well.) Cpt. Carebear 24 Nov. 8:31PM

Oh yeah i had that message at the start and i was like What the Fu** is that so i just clicked yes and what ever. I also finished campaign mode as i loved playing multiplayer more than campaign and i love throwing the knife at Sheperd.

deleted and posted in callsigns..

Intel
I've found all the intel but it doesn't seem to do anything. Is it there just for the achievements? OmgHAX! 20:58, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

Yer, thats all it does im affraid unlike COD4 --GUNN88 09:39, November 26, 2009 (UTC)

Emblem missing
There is an emblem missing from the list on the Callsigns page.

It's a chicken.

You can see it on EMBLEMS-03.jpg (second column from right, bottom row).

I have no idea how I unlocked this, but it may have accompanied the "Squawk Box" or "Skeet Shooter" titles on TITLES-11.jpg, which also feature a chicken. I have not unlocked the "3xt4 cr1zby" title. Ender013 21:18, November 25, 2009 (UTC)

i have 270 headshots with m4a1 and no Weapon Specific Title =( 250 Headshots (reticule on head)). and i have also over 1000 kils and no Weapon Specific Title (500 Kills (grey) emblem ) please help

Sniper Archer - Loose Ends
I want to edit his page, does he have an American or British accent? He has a pretty important role in the mission Loose Ends so can someone find that out for me?

British, I kinda wrote that on his page. Chief z 09:01, November 29, 2009 (UTC)

Spoiler
Hey i cant figure out how but this REALLY needs a spoiler warning.

Modern Warfare 2 Plot Summary
This sentence: "The heavily wounded Soap stumbes through the crash site and chases Shepherd, but Shepherd knocks him out and stabs him with a Knife. As Soap lay dying, Shepherd and Price fight. By ripping the knife out of his own chest, Soap manages to kill Shepherd with a knife throw to the head. Nikolai then arrives to extract them. Price warns Nikolai that they will be international fugitives for what they've done, but Nikolai insists he knows a safe place to take them." needs to be rewritten to:

"The heavily wounded Soap stumbles through the crash site and chases Shepherd, but Shepherd knocks him out and stabs him with a Knife. As Soap lays dying, Shepherd attempts to finish him off, but Price attacks Shepherd in the nick of time and the two fight. By ripping the knife out of his own chest, Soap manages to kill Shepherd with a knife throw to the head. Nikolai then arrives to extract them. Price warns Nikolai that they will be international fugitives for what they've done, but Nikolai insists he knows a safe place to take them."

It can be found on the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 page, in the plot summary.

Shouldn't it be as Soap LYES dying revenge quotes ==

I noticed that alot of the quotes that are shown when you die are about revenge. Which is (thank God) a hint at a modern warfare 3 were US gets revenge on russia/makarov.


 * actually the quotes refer more to this game; makarov's revenge for Zakhaev's death, Shepherd's revenge for the loss of his troops, Soap's revenge for Shepherd's betrayal. OmgHAX! 15:03, December 1, 2009 (UTC)

Shepherd needs to get his priorities straight.

Modern warfare 2 flags.
Number 317 is Finland, can someone edit that info? Monkeyface Fin 08:59, December 2, 2009 (UTC) Monkeyface Fin

Alexi Borodin
How did the Americans expect Makarov to believe that a guy with an american accent was a Russian? He even says during the level something like 'I've waited a long time for this' in a massive accent of NY. So no wonder the tattoos were not enough.

Since he was just being used as a tool to justify a Russian attack on America, Makarov and his group could have just played along with his bad Russian acccent. Or IW didn't see it as a big deal. Automechtech1 07:33, December 3, 2009 (UTC)

The tiny mistake that started a massive war? lol and he looks like an American i'd guess, talks like an American and I don't think could even speak any Russian! I know they say 'No Russian' or whatever, but seriously if the RUSSIANS never spoke their own language - what did they do?

Actually, it was another guy who had the NY accent, I think Lev. Makarov killed Allen because Shepherd paid him too. Shepherd wanted the war to start as a way to get revenge for the COD 4 mission 'Shock and Awe' on the ultranationalist Russia.

Shepherd doesn't want revenge, he wants to unleash America's full military might, and lead America to becoming the center of power and influence in the world. To do this, he worked with Makarov to organize a terrorist attack to force Russia into invading America. Shepherd gave Allen to Makarov to instigate the war. Automechtech1 00:55, December 7, 2009 (UTC)

Multiplayer tips/ideas
We really ought to have a page for mw2 mp tips and tricks

If we have one, I'll start it. I know alot tricks and easter eggs.

Please remove spoiler picture on main page
The picture titled "Makarov kills Alexei in No Russian." While it is a very nice picture, I don't think it is appropriate to have a spoiler on the main page describing the game. 71.63.155.111 07:02, December 6, 2009 (UTC)James

Multiplayer skins
Anyone have a link to the multiplayer skins for this game? XavierGTR 12:38, December 6, 2009 (UTC)

unmarked challenges?
ive had 2 moments where ive gained what seem to be challenges only there is no XP bonus and it is not seen anywhere after unlocking it.

The Loner - get a 10 killstreak with 0 killstreak rewards

Never Forget - Knife an enemy in the back after he damages you.

--Cpt Jack House

I've gotten a few of those as well. infected - you've been infected or something and something with getting nuked by the enemy

EMP Info typo
A minor error I noticed when looking through the killstreak rewards. It says "...destroys enemy killst_eaks and disables..."where I think you mean Killst-r-eaks.

Hired gun
i can personally confirm that hired gun is unlocked after achieving counter-c4 II in the elite challenges of the game

Weapons of MW2 (Primary)
I noticed the FAL assault rifle is not present in this photo...

Weapons of MW2 (Primary).jpg http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/File:Weapons_of_MW2_(Primary).jpg

Blood = Kool Aid
The on screen, low health blood looks as if it's fruit juice; Infinity ward obviously doesn't know that blood is a dark red and opaque rather than a bright red and clear.

...but it looks good anyway :)

Infinity ward obviously doesn't know that blood is a dark red and opaque rather than a bright red and clear.
 * .....and you obviously dont understand that darkness would limit your view and hinder your gameplay.

I think that the blood looks like jelly on the screen. - GarrattH

The Veins adn coloring effects from COD4 were cooler. It looks like the player is turning into the hulk after getting shot too many times.IIID Empire 07:51, Dec.12,09

Campaign Wallpaper
I'm trying to find the picture behind the campaign box, the one of the guy with the skull on the face/ski mask type deal. facing left with the weapon pointing towards the bottom left.

anyone know where i can find it?

You talking about Ghost?IIID Empire 07:52, Dec.12,09

Weapon Labeling error
I notice the pictures of the primary and secondary weapons say they're for Modern Warfare 2 in general, but they're missing the guns from the campaign, so they're just the guns from multiplayer

I've never signed a post (or even posted anything) on any sort of Wiki- anything page, so if I sign it wrong could you just tell me what to do with it...?

OmniCyper VX1

the riot shield is missing aswell liambobjobs 21st december 10:20am

Quotes
I want to add some quotes to lesser known charcters, how is this done? Is there an 'insert quote' button or something?

Strange
I wonder why the Wikipedia article on the game is more informative than the CoD wiki entry? I think the article requires some serious expansion. Torinir 07:40, December 13, 2009 (UTC)

I will look into that mate RaptorMW3 08:10, December 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Part of that is because that for the Wikipedia article, that's all the information on the game they have, right there on that page. We don't need to explain everything that thoroughly, as we have separate articles for everything.  06:12, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

9/11
Game has nothing to do with 9/11 but yet you talk as if it does in the description. Should probable take this out.

C4 vs. EMP?
Are C4 Charges and Claymores affected by EMP's? Ive never called in enough EMPs to notice. (Ive gotten one. From a care package. I fail I know.) --Slowrider7 03:52, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

STD Title
I think i've figured out how to get the STD title. First thing you have to do is get the infected title. Next you have to knife a certain amount of people while you have the infected title as your title. I'm not sure how many it is. I would guess about 50.

71.13.32.43 02:44, December 17, 2009 (UTC)Simocat19

But how does someone get the Infected title in the first place? I know, I know; get knifed by someone with it on. But how did the first person get it? If I am confusing you, sorry. This question of mine is confusing me too.IIID Empire 19:50, Dec.16, 09

I'm guessing they started some of the game designer people with it and then it just started to filter around.

71.13.32.43 16:57, December 17, 2009 (UTC)Simocat19

Jeez. I won't be expecting that title anytime soon.IIID Empire 10:29, Dec.17, 09

you get the STD title by knifing someone with it already. hence the joke of it " you raped them with your knife and suffered the consequences".

Ya, I just got the STD Title a few minutes ago. I saw someone with the Infected title, but he wouldn't knife me. It sucked, lol. If someone has the Infected title, I'll do a private match with them.IIID Empire 13:08, Dec.18, 09.

Thanks for the info, next time I do my rambo slash matches I will put Infected on to give everyone an STD.


 * You don't have to have Infected as your title to get STD, I have never ever used it as my title yet I have the STD title.Crimmastermind 06:23, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Kreigler
Seriously why has no one made a page on kriegler yet? And am I the only one that thinks Raptor could be Kriegler?

Kreigler
Seriously why has no one made a page on kriegler yet? And am I the only one that thinks Raptor could be Kriegler?

Seriously why does this need two pages ha, anyway man Kriegler is one of the IW guys, I think he's head of animation or something, and I swear he has his name on everything, so why would he need ANOTHER reference to himself? RaptorMW3 12:36, December 20, 2009 (UTC

Yeah his name keeps popping up all over the damn place. It was on cod4 and now on cosd6 online maps, porbably so online players will remeber the name. Ive seen it on the maps Derail, Underpass, Highrise, everywhere is there anymore info about huim, he's probably a really major character for mod3

Well he was orginally the VIP in mile high club but I doubt raptor is him or he will be a major character in mod3

Whoever can edit this page...
Yeah so right under the heading "Special Ops" someone's put in a little plug for his youtube channel. If you're not going to remove it, at least correct that spelling. A har har har.

Cheftacular 05:36, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * It's gone. Thanks for catching that!  05:45, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I tried editing it out and it's not in the article when trying to edit it. He must have put it into the actual source of the article or something.  Anyone know how to fix that?  05:49, December 21, 2009 (UTC)


 * He's a smart one isnt't he RaptorMW3 02:17, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Overkill
The new secondary weapons option does not negate the use of the Overkill perk it "obviates the need" for Overkill. Negate refers to neutralizing or countering the effect of something. Obviate refers to removing the need for something.67.177.13.104 04:44, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Add bit to trivia
Trivia section mentions that some Special Ops missions are based on game campaign levels.

It should be added that some of the Special Ops missions are also based game campaign levels from Call of Duty 4, down to using the exact same map.

AndarielHalo 14:58, December 23, 2009 (UTC)

Challenges
Why no challenge listings? - Terry S

the mp playlist is incorrect headquarters is listed under headquarters and headquarters pro, and hc search is listed as hc search and ricochet: hc s&d, also they have a hc hq playlist now someone needs to revise this

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 challenges. -Niel15

Sweet, thanks. But maybe the titles/emblems/level requirements could be linked to each as well. When someone gets the gumption at least. - Terry S

Veterans day and links to pages
Veteran's day is November 11, not November 10th. That is a huge mistake that needs to be corrected as soon as possible. 75.15.164.18 04:30, December 25, 2009 (UTC)

The challenges and prestige mode need to be linked someway to the main page. It is currently hard to find the two pages.

what do you think about them changing the model 1887's range?????
they shouldn't change this shotguns range as i see it they should put all the shotguns range up as they are unrealistic and very short!!!!! very grumpy!!!! liambobjobs 26 december 1:14pm
 * That's ridiculous. The last thing shotguns need is more range. And I think regarding the M1887s they're only altering the Akimbo form. 97.97.40.193 06:11, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

If anything they should cut the damn range in half-- I lost over 9000 lives in the blink of an eye because of that and IW just fuckin' watched. Slider

General Sheperd *SPOILER*
Yeah i completed campaign like a month ago but i wanted to bring up the question on General Sheperd being alive. If you completed campaign you should know that in the end of the level "End Game" Soap throws a throwing knife at General Sheperd landing in his left eye. Thats just it, it landed in his EYE. Your eye is not necessary for you to live so isnt it possible that he is still alive? Will he appear again in MW3 with an eyepatch? Thoughts be posted on this thread. Mattaboogum
 * Meh, if shepherd is once again the mystery antagonist in MW3 and he like emerges from the shadow in the last level with an eye patch on his left eye and says something really deep then I owe you 20$ Slider
 * Um... the optical nerve that connects the eye and brain means that there is a direct way into the brain without going through the skull. So Shepard should be dead. But if he came back with an eye patch.... I wouldn't be sure whether to laugh or cry. --Azncutthroat 18:46, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Drug Reference/ Language ESRB Ratings
Tell me if I'm wrong but I believe that the only drug reference in the game is the pot themed callsign titles (i.e. Blunt Trauma and Joint Ops) and emblem. If IW would have just kept these distasteful titles and the emblems out of the game they could've lost the ESRB warning and maybe gained a few sales.

Also, I think the only example of language in the game is in Endgame (you know the one), they could have worked around that too and cut the ESRB warnings in half. Slider

Yeah i think the rating may have something to do with a massacre at a Russian airport, just maybe

Those Poppyseed fields also might be why

AK-47
The AK-47 on mw2 is dissapointing as the recoil is much larger than the one on cod4 also on cod4 most people used the gun with no attachment and was probaly the best primary wepon on the game but that is not the case on mw2 as the ACR has been voted the best gun on the game by most players

(Mr_Lazy95)

the AK 47 in COD 4 had no recoil. it had the animation but thats it. the bullets always went to where you were first aiming. i thing its an improvment from COD 4. havoc131

Dead Man's Hand
I got the Modern Warfare 2 guide for christmas and I found a picture of the death streaks from the original version. The copycat symbol had a picture of a cat instead of a face and there was another death streak called Dead Man's Hand... Does anyone have any idea what this could have been. just interested. Ashdude01 22:18

Hmm, it might have just been a different name for the Last Stand death streak, with 'dead man' referring to the player bleeding out. Fascinating discovery, Ash. Supercancer 20:14, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Modern Warfare 3 Ideas
There are many loose ends in MW2, like what happened to Makarov? Where is Nikolai going to take Soap and Price? What happened to Ghost? (He didn't get petrol poured on him) What about SGT Foley, Cpl Dunn and the Rangers mounting a counter attack against the russians? Did shepherd actually die? (The knife may of only penetrated the eye, not the brain, like in casino Royale) What about Kamarov from CoD 4, is he fighting the Russians in Russia or is he on their side?

II Helljumper II 09:28, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Modern Warfare 2 Plot
Should the | plot be divided into Act I, II and III format? (Oh shit, forgot to sign tildas. Sorry!) --Azncutthroat 19:35, January 1, 2010 (UTC)

Take down spoiler templates?
Hey guys, now that Modern Warfare 2's been released, d'you think we should take down the spoiler warning templates? I'd do it myself, but some of the pages have locks on them. 109.78.124.168 21:09, January 2, 2010 (UTC)

Definitely not, it's still a brand new game that thousands of people are still just purchasing now. Removing the spoiler warnings would be very unfair to someone who has only played a few levels of the game just to have the game ruined for them. Supercancer 20:38, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hm. Good point. 109.78.124.168

VIP
Hi, can anyone tell me what VIP is? Ashdude01 18:54

Depends, what do you mean by VIP and where is this feature? Dale08 19:07, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, it depends on how it's used. If it's describing a person then it means 'Very Important Person'. Supercancer 20:16, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

No, I meant a hidden game type in Modern Warfare 2. It is called VIP and I just wanted to know what it was and how you played it. Ashdude01 16:52

global thermonuclear war and 1 flag ctf exist, vip, apparently exists but there are no videos or anything of it :/ another hidden mode is called arena which is "Round based capture the flag, with one flag in the middle of the map." http://www.themodernwarfare2.com/ --Ashwilso12 17:39, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

ok thanks Ashdude01 17:44

Too much trivia?
I agree, most of the trivia is simply nonsense. My biggest problem with 99% of wikia pages are the horrible HORRIBLE pop culture references and inferrences that someone sees that is either irrelevent or at best a stretch. I removed the horrible GI Joe reference, which has absolutely nothing to do with the game whatsoever. Devilskin oi 19:34, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but there seems to be an excessive amount of trivia for MW2. Hell, most of the articles have more pieces of trivia than anything else, and most of it is just over-analyzing something that occurred during a level or something, or just loose movie referencing. Should we do something about this? I mean, I don't want to go and clip half of an article's content away just because of what I think should be done.

Now that I look more into it, it seems as though people aren't even sure what the definition of 'trivia' actually is, there's practically nothing but skepticism and personal explanations for every small detail in the game.Supercancer 20:21, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

anyone who can edit?
the playlist section is a bit messed, Hardcore Search and destroy appears twice, as does Headquarters (pro) and old skool was never a game type. thanks --Ashwilso12 22:38, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Why so touchy?
I think that only fans of the CoD series should be editing the wiki because I have seen so many trivia points on levels and characters that practice more attention to detail than my mother, and that's saying something. Anyway, to the point. I have nothing against detail, in fact I embrace it but I don't think that the game was designed to be a perfect replica of modern day combat. I worked on Crysis and Farcry 2 and what seems easy (eg. Designing a car/boat/plane/helicopter/tank/gun) costs a lot more than people might think. Another point of mine is that creating a perfectly realistic experience is to expensive, not to mention that it would be boring. A game like CoD : MW2 relies on it's Cold War-ish concept of the future. American soldiers in Afghanistan don't have balls-out conflicts with militia and Russia won't be invading anybody any time soon (I hope). This is why I despise The Sims and life-simulators as a whole. The concept of the genre is sick and twisted, waste your life creating a digital one for characters that don't exist. Anyway, the point is that making a completely realistic game is a waste of time and money. The game was created to be a fun, entertaining and enthralling experience that, albeit short, frequently graces 11 on the "Epicometer". There, I have exhausted my massive stockpile of complaints. I will now adjourn to the nearest GameStop store to buy Crackdown. 138.130.158.188 03:06, January 6, 2010 (UTC)Finnish Jerk138.130.158.188 03:06, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Guys,

I've basically had enough of the game already. Between the IW P2P crap, care package speed knife glitchers and just now ran into 8 hackers with 2 of them on the same side challenging each other who can get a nuke first. I like the game but between the hackers, compulsive knifers, leave game only to join the same or another with a hacker raping everybody, had enough. I'm still going to play just to finish a few things, but I've had enough and Coming from WaW, I think I only saw one or two incidences of foul play, so what makes MW2 so different. I think that it is the fact that the "servers" can not be policed and so the games are good if you get a good host but the lack of any admins makes it too easy for the hackers to continue.

Sorry for mentioning the H word, but just play ground war for a while and you'll soon see one if you have not see one in action.


 * Cool story bro. oh btw this isn't a personal cry box, sorry --Ashwilso12 15:15, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * He can say what he likes. I totally agree with you. I HATE people who play to knife. It's so stupid. TBH MW2 has been one big disappointment. Until IW fixes the shit they've made by (I quote another user) "throwing worms at their keyboards", it's a rubbish game. 18:37, January 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * Playing to knife is brilliant! and its not like its over powered, bullets>knife. just shoot them in the face, its not like they are a hard target when then run at you head on in a straight line is it --Ashwilso12 17:34, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

Spawn system
I think the Spawn system of MW2 is not so erratic as some people may suggest.

It goes like this:

There are defined exact locations where people spawn on each map (usually around the edges, but you can learn them all map by map).

In some team games like TDM, CTF etc you will spawn at a spawn location which is close to a team mate (I don't know how it picks team mate however).

If you stand really close to a spawn point, you can suppress it, but already at a small distance, people can start spawning there.

So basically, learn the spawn points for each map and keep your eyes on them 'cause that's where the enemy will be spawning and come stabbing for your back.


 * Well, when you spawn behind and in front of enemies without using tactical insertion, the spawn system sucks. Its basically just the same as CoD4's spawn system, and is the most disappointing aspect of the game.Crimmastermind 23:42, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

I'm not saying it sucks or not, but I'm saying it's predictable. Learn the exact locations & you won't be surprised as much. If an enemy is sneaking by, or attacking you, then chances are that his team mates will be able to spawn around him. Just be aware. The spawn system is not so random as you may believe.