Forum:Personal Images

Notice: I'm not for deleting the images that exist on the wikia but block the ones that comes because the wikia isn't a image hosting service. Well like you see almost half of the wikia is just the "game" "pimpmygun", it's pretty much useless because the users can upload it to imageshack or else because it's personal images... You're probably asking why? It's taking up useless amount of Wikia space, which isn't much of a good things as you probably know. So I'd say ban new Pimpmygun (They can keep the ones that are existing...) Example: Dr. Feelgood uploaded tons of images of shitty (Why I say shitty is because it's pretty much useless) converts just to show (Srsly...). We could have saved a lot of space by just uploading them to imageshack (A image hoster, a host meant to host images on isn't it obvious?), proof of the crap: http://i.imgur.com/h2Pkl.png so yea, like I said we should ban these stupid images because what is the wikia about? Is it about helping the ones that needs help and providing information or it just a dump for all ideas? You decide. -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   21:43, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Talking about banning PMG pictures, basically means no personal images at all. So the images on your userpage would (sadly) have to go. Along with many other images people use to personalise there pages. -N7 (talk) 22:02, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I want to call you a idiot for not reading what I wrote... -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   08:04, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ikin, there's no limit to the amount of space we can use. If people want to have PMG pics I see no valid reason why not. If we just get rid of unused pics every now and again, like WHISKEY did yesterday and the day before, we will have no problem. M1911 small.jpgYuri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 22:03, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * No. Just no. Hell no. Fuck no . No, no, no, no, no, no, no...           ... No. There is NO point in getting rid of them, maybe we want to show our pictures without having to say, "I made this awesome Barrett 2 million Cal rifle in Pimp My Gun, but i can't post it here, so I have to put a link." If wikia had a space limit, we would have run out of space a long time ago. And if it was on some stupid image website, it would waste precious time that could be spent doing something productive like eating a sandwich, pwning Qscopers on MW2, editing the wiki, or designing a nuke, or other innocent but cool actions like that. --Bumblebeeprime09(Talk) 22:13, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Can you guys like read what I say before posting? Do like I do upload it to imageshack, look at me all my images are hosted on my Imageshack account. -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   22:16, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, we can read, and we did (At least, I did anyway.). Your argument is STILL invalid. --Bumblebeeprime09(Talk) 22:21, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

--CEBot 22:28, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well what I was saying is that all new personal images should be uploaded to imageshack, it would be a huge waste of time removing a lot of images. -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   07:56, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

No, it doesn't. I have found it hard to find images in the past, but it was more of the wiki's images of COD (ie. FP views of guns, stills from trailers, stuff like that) cluttering up the file search or whatever the hell it's called. --Bumblebeeprime09(Talk) 22:33, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, it does. I estimate about 2000 of our images are PMGs - and most of them have names that make it hard to find the file you need. And I tried searching for a picture of the M4A1 when I was trying out Rich Text Editor again, about 30 files I saw were PMGs. --CEBot 22:37, December 21, 2010 (UTC)

They put so much work into them that it would be a shame to delete them.Cpl.Bohater 22:35, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not deleting them, it's replacing them with links to the same file on ImageShack or Photobucket. The PMGs would still appear. --CEBot 22:37, December 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * What would be the proper licensing for an image like that, then? Shadowalkers  ShadowEmblem.png  Speak.  22:53, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * Public Domain. 03:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I think that if the uploading of PMGs are banned, then all other personal images should be as well. There are a myriads of other personal images that outnumber PMGs by a large margin, and by the definition given in the proposal, they do not contribute to the wiki either. 00:39, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'd support that. As the wiki is a site about Call of Duty (I suppose this should go along with the reason for there being no IRL info as well)., not a media hosting site. All these personal images can be uploaded via imageshack or photobucket and be embedded on the wiki - but having them uploaded to the wiki just makes it harder to navigate through images and takes up space (which I know we have an infinite amount of, but personal images are just a waste). -- 01:03, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how personal images are a "waste" when we could have an infinite amount on our wiki. That seems to me like a contradiction. And I feel almost like this is the whole "ban blogging" thing all over again. M1911 small.jpgYuri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 01:06, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Encyclopedias could also be picture books, but alas, they are not. We are here to build a comprehensive database on the Call of Duty series, not to be a host (without licensing in most cases) to any image desired. 02:01, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

-pmgs go all images go!
 * You're missing the point, we're not banning PMGs, we're having them uploaded to non-wiki sites such as Imageshack or Photobucket. Sactage   Give me a ping, Vasily.  IRC  War Room 02:50, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * The original title was "BAN PimpMyGun IMAGES" incase you missed that. M1911 small.jpgYüri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 03:00, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Per SOGM; Poor Grammar but excellent point. --Bumblebeeprime09(Talk) 01:21, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * ...The forum is to remove PMGs from the wiki and reupload them on imageshack, not to remove them completely - and i guess if most people decided to actually read the forum then skim through it, they might actually get that... -- 02:24, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

Removing social images would be massively unpopular. Why would we remove something many editors enjoy just because you (somehow) have problems running through images? 03:15, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

New proposal
Since my computer is lagging like an ütter fücking bitch, I'm starting a new section: How aboüt we limit the number of personal images per üser to 5 or 10, and they must be tagged with, as well as having the üser's name in the filename? Yuri Kaslov  02:05, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

I am still against it. Ikin shouldn't have made this in the first place, and his/her friend CEBot isn't helping out. Bumblebeeprime09(Talk) 02:07, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do I even know CEBot? -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   08:01, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * CEbot is Azuris I think. M1911 small.jpgYüri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 10:52, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, two of the most powerfül administrators are for it. We're oütnümbered and oütgünned. We have to consolidate in order to win even a slight compromize at this point. M1911 small.jpgYüri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 02:10, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * All editors are equal. 02:22, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * per bovellCoD1 Weapon PPSh.pngSignatureSpecialOpsGenralMinigun.pngRaygunprofile.png 02:24, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Way to COMPLETELY ignore everything I just said there, Bovell. M1911 small.jpgYüri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 02:38, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Completely ignore everything you said? Your point was that because two people who the community gave administrative rights to are not in agreement with what other people are saying in this topic, everyone should just give up. I could have just chuckled, and closed out of the tab. Instead, I reminded you that our power has no effect on how consensus is determined. So please, assume that my points in a discussion are out of good faith regardless of what my stance is on the proposal. 13:18, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bovell, if you truly believe that, you're lying to yourself. M1911 small.jpgYüri Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 16:27, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. It's completely correct what he said. My opinion doesn't matter more than yours, and yours does not matter more than mine. AEAE is closely linked to CONSENSUS and both of these are core policies when it comes to debating changes in any forum. It means that the wiki isn't ruled with an oligarchical system, and I think that is outlined in COD:NOT. 16:35, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you wanted to block me, I doubt any of the other admins would even lift a finger to stop you if I didn't raise a fuss about it. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri  <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 16:50, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Per Bovell. Not only that, but that is way too many rules to be effectively enforced. We need to keep it simple. Shotrocket6sig.png 02:24, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * Too many rules? It's actually a fairly simple system, akin to not allowing base categories on pages. Just slap the category in there and move the file if necessary. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 02:38, December 22, 2010 (UTC)


 * I know this is off-topic, but why is there two dots over every one of Yuri's U's? Now on topic, I have a ton of personal images and I am not willing to give them up. I will stand for my decision. /Plants feet firmly on ground/ --Bumblebeeprime09(Talk) 13:01, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * That's just me adding the umlaut to the u's. No biggie. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 16:26, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * READ THE FUCKING PAGE BEFORE POSTING. -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   13:05, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Take a chill pill Ikin. ← Bravo Five-Nine  Talk 13:26, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dude, these people can't even read the page, they think we are going to remove images... People need to learn how to read (I think cod4 thinks that way too) -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   13:52, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * No, Ikin, I read the damn thing three times. What you propose has no purpose whatsoever, because if I wanted to use an image I would just upload a new one to the wiki instead of wasting three hours looking for one image (or, I would click on the image where it is already posted and use the filename from that). Not everyone wants to do things the hard way, and those who do are obviously either taking the whole encyclopedia thing WAY too seriously, or they're strong proponents of the clusterfuck that is bureaucracy, and anybody who supports bureacuracy MUST be an employee for the MVA. I mean, why would I want an imageshack account, just to post a few images on wikia when wikia has an inset device for doing JUST THAT? Why waste my time and effort on something so small? If you're on multiple sites and want to upload the same image to all of them -- that would be a reason for a single person to get a third-party hosting site account. But not everyone here is on that many sites! By all means, go for it yourself, but don't force other people to do the same, just because you, in some utterly infathomable way, can't find an image. First and foremost, you COULD just upload a new image to the wiki if you can't find the one you're looking for. Secondly, not everyone wants to or needs to post pictures on different sites! Hell, in all of my 9 years on computers, I've NEVER uploaded a single goddamned image on any site apart from wikia-hosted sites and the WeGame homepage, because I don't want to, and I don't NEED to.

Damn, that got really dragged out. It was like two sentences to start with. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  16:26, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * I have to agree with Yuri on this point. Shotrocket6sig.png 16:40, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Poor you :(, RS.wikia is better then COD.wikia and it uses imageshack for personal images and the wikia images for the wikia and that goes great. -- http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/8379/14085287.png   16:43, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Pardon me, but what the hell does the location of images have to do with how good a wiki is? Shotrocket6sig.png 16:47, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Per shotrocket. Ikin, you didn't even offer a good counterargument. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 16:51, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Also, the RS wiki may be bigger, but to say that it is better is very opinionated. Shotrocket6sig.png 16:55, December 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * In any case, she didn't even respond to my counterproposal. Actually, NOBODY did (apart from a dismissal by you, Shotrocket) . It's the very same system used on The Vault. And it works great there. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 16:58, December 22, 2010 (UTC)