Call of Duty Wiki:ATEFI

The Alliance To End Firearm Ignorance (henceforth referred to as the ATEFI) is a usergroup founded by SaintofLosAngelesXD(m) with the assistance of Maj.Gage. The group consists of users on this wiki that cannot stand when people are stupid, misinformed, idiotic, and otherwise ignorant about firearms and firearm related subjects. We do not expect everyone to be as knowledgeable about firearms as we are, we simply expect that people have at least some basic knowledge, especially if one plays shooter video games. We have little problem with those who are aware of their lack of knowledge of firearms, though we will still correct them if they are wrong. Our biggest problem is with those who claim to be knowledgeable about firearms, but are in reality quite ignorant. If you are a member, please feel free to make additions to this page wherever you see fit!

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Examples of ignorance
Examples include, but are not limited to:
 * Misuse of terminology
 * ex. calling a "magazine" a "clip"
 * ex. calling a complete cartridge a bullet
 * Assuming every gun of a certain classification is a well-known example of that classification
 * ex. thinking every assault rifle is an AK-47, or "AK"
 * ex. thinking every submachine gun is an Uzi
 * ex. thinking every semi-automatic handgun is a Glock
 * Believing oneself to be knowledgeable about firearms only because one has played a shooter video game
 * Thinking that simply because a gun is short, it is a submachine gun
 * ex. the G36c
 * ex. the AKS-74u
 * Presuming that all guns of a certain classification share the same characteristics as all other guns of that classification
 * ex. thinking all shotguns make a "chk-chk" sound
 * General stupidity
 * ex. thinking the entire cartridge exits out the end of the barrel
 * ex. thinking an M134 minigun actually can fire infinitely as long as it doesn't overheat
 * ex. thinking all stealth missions have the soldiers using silenced MP5s
 * ex. thinking you can survive being shot in the body with a .50 caliber bullet
 * ex. thinking an M61 Vulcan can be used as a Squad Automatic Weapons
 * ex. thinking weapons are all the same
 * ex. thinking that the characteristics the guns have in game, are for real life

(We recognize that to create an enjoyable video game, it is sometimes necessary to skimp on details and accuracy, and therefore do not hold the developers in complete contempt for certain errors)

Members

 * SaintofLosAngelesXD(m) (founder)
 * Maj.Gage (creative designer)
 * Akyoyo
 * TristanCODfan
 * Theman1001125
 * Gen.Cain
 * Lieutenant Mikey
 * Ghost Leader
 * J-money
 * Chantufan
 * Rasmus Nicholson
 * TMILLZ13
 * EightOhEight
 * II Superlative
 * Griever0311
 * CoD addict
 * Dbx25
 * Doc.Richtofen
 * AdvancedRookie
 * Casual T
 * Achronos-117
 * Shotty729
 * Cpl. Wilding
 * Poketape
 * DEathgod65
 * TNT LotLP
 * Notthekingofmw2
 * Tehpwnage22
 * xXFlyinCowXx
 * Mishulover69
 * Pvt.Peter Kendell
 * HoRa FaLLouT 20:17, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * DevilWarrior112
 * Codfan
 * Decster97
 * Niel15
 * Mr. Pie
 * Razgriez
 * Shockwolf10
 * Steel Czar
 * Era of Anarchy
 * Yeshwa1
 * Redmax29
 * Resnov1997
 * Cheesytom
 * WhammyKing121
 * Alex Martin Rider
 * Predator B
 * Juan José Rodriguez
 * Warpanda13
 * Pvt. Reddenbawker
 * Calool
 * LITE992
 * Nickshooter23
 * Blemo
 * 7th Body
 * Brothertim
 * Armyguy277
 * Sidewinder82
 * Nelo Angelo97
 * Novangel
 * KenLee318
 * Bartekko
 * Outlaw 2-5
 * Cpl. Dunn
 * Cpt. Riley
 * Zaqq
 * Gen.Cain
 * Mikeh12
 * MerchantofDeath
 * Ak47anihilator
 * BayHarborButcher
 * Mad Miller
 * Dolten
 * Alex gunny walker
 * COOPERx223x
 * Test35965
 * Squelliot
 * Hk37
 * Captain Knutzen
 * Price25
 * Alexwalker
 * Dark Frager
 * SMS1996
 * Drjuki
 * Darthkenobi0
 * Helix Armada
 * Sith Venator
 * Chipgambino
 * Toilet Bowl Soldier
 * CodExpert
 * FAL expert
 * DarkLocustSlayer
 * /*Maj. Boner*/
 * Ukimies
 * Random Ally1337
 * Bmoreravens12
 * Shotrocket6
 * JJfighter926
 * User:StB
 * N'thro Notadee
 * EnemyOfMyEnemy
 * Spazification13
 * zombo41700
 * Coolcoolman9
 * Blinzy45
 * Rambo362
 * Ashdude01
 * ConzoMc
 * Jdcoolha
 * Salman44
 * WHISKEY35
 * Advancedwarfighter
 * 7th Body
 * Crossbowcac.png 50 cal. Talk?Crossbowcac.png. 23:18, September 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cpt.Z
 * BlinkingSky
 * alexandercw
 * Neytiri is Beautiful
 * Rampantlion513
 * Wolf merc
 * Warpanda13
 * LTC Baik
 * Psycthrash
 * oosulley
 * Sgt_Sprinkles
 * Cap.Latif
 * Chubbaking
 * Sgt. S.S.
 * Mr Winner Guy
 * WhyToasties1337
 * Jarhead68
 * Negative Axle
 * Pat5556
 * KillerKing17
 * Cpl. Ross
 * ToShootToKill
 * Skulldragon_GC
 * Cpl.DunnACRmaster
 * Darkraider09
 * Dempsy115
 * rmpcop1
 * Nohomers48
 * assassin 43
 * Smoke.
 * User:BravoAlphaSix
 * Codzombie
 * Sgt.Saber
 * Seijana
 * Griffon26
 * Ian MI
 * SEAL
 * nlmgr
 * Smish34
 * A Lonely Nomad 22:12, August 2, 2010 (UTC)
 * Dragstang
 * Gamemasta424 :D
 * Agreon
 * FinalHero13
 * Chadman1231
 * BengalMan81
 * Pokemvp 22:19, August 16, 2010 (UTC)Pokemvp
 * Cpl. SharpShooter
 * TheManOfIron
 * The mercenary 08:36, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wolverines! 14:49, August 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * xDEATHMAN4aP90x 13:31, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * 200px-Sasemblem.png JCEHunter  01:23, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * MajorWood 21:45, August 31, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sgt.Sandwich
 * Chuckleluck 16:54, September 9, 2010 (CST)
 * Doc.Pock 17:29, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sniperteam82308 22:54, September 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Flak88 00:30, September 27, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mikhail976
 * Cpl.Bohater 02:46, November 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Bennettsig.png 18:12, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * CoD1 Weapon PPSh.pngSignatureSpecialOpsGenralMinigun.pngRaygunprofile.png 22:02, October 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Mahoomushi.JPG? PWEEZ??? 13:06, November 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Cartera64
 * Sp3ctr3 130 Ki11er 07:54, December 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Conqueror of all Zombies 00:37, December 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Kunven
 * Raven&#39;s wing
 * Reznov115
 * Butthead4
 * MW_Pickup_Colt45.png User:Pvt. Trueblood Hud_aug.png 02:03, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Tagg3r
 * João Lima 20:59, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Pain Emenor 15:31, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Spaceblast
 * gic1998 (I'm sad at what happened to this group.)
 * Sparky the psychic spartan (screw the AK47, gimme an AN-94 anyday)
 * USP-269 12:19, February 10, 2011 (UTC) (G36 rules !)
 * SwissArmy2010 23:59, February 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Major Blackout
 * Waffe.png Reznov115  Talk Raygunprofile.png 19:59, February 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thumbs Up Guy
 * CzesioTheCamper 18:05, February 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * Waterloo12
 * NOVA7
 * Blahmarrow
 * Maxx1222
 * 23:42, March 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * TheEpicShot 01:24, March 31, 2011 (UTC)
 * Alexthepitboss (da boss) 02:47, April 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Gloryman3
 * 16:31, April 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Goerge4639 19:21, April 30, 2011 (UTC)
 * Commisar1945
 * FunnyRabbit
 * AJ.Bialke
 * Jar teh marksman Jar teh marksman 15:21, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
 * Aces Creed 03:40, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Aces Creed 03:40, June 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Deuce --[SwFT] NighTMarE 23:42, June 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * RC95 06:15, June 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Icommandoxx 21:19, June 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sgt. Me 20:39, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Actions taken and tactics used against the ignorant
Retaliation against ignorance by the members of the ATEFI include, but are not limited to:
 * Quizzing on technical and historical aspects of firearms
 * ex caliber, magazine size, variants, years of service, countries used by etc.
 * Insulting
 * Refusing to speak to
 * Public humiliation
 * Minimal blocking (i.e. for an hour or two) for major infractions
 * Various other payback

(Please understand that some of these punishments are not acceptable for use on the Call of Duty wiki, per our user treatment policy)

Experiences with the ignorant
Members, feel free to place examples of personal experiences with those ignorant about firearms in this section.

Thumbs Up Guy

I'm not a gun wizard but I know my way around.

1:So I meet two of my classmates after school and we talk about zombies.

Me:I'd take something light,with common ammo,and packs a punch.

Craig (who is okish about gun):I'd take a sniper so they would never get close.

Reece (the biggest fire arms fail evar) I'd use one those machine gun things.The AK.

So the next day we grab some BB guns and meet at reece's.I brought a Mac and the M9s.

I grab Reece's M16A1 and a M9.

Craig:Reece do you want this Thomson?

Reece:Yes! I love that machine gun.

The next week at lunch we discuss are varioute guns.

Me:I like the M16 series.They look pretty nice.But they do have a bad track record in my opinion.

Craig:The Tommy guns awesome to me.

Reece:I like machine guns.

Me:Like what/

Reece:The Uzi (OOuuzu as he pronounced it).

Me; HAHAHAHAHAHA.Thats a SUB MACHINE GUN.

Reece:Its still a machine gun.

I start to fill up with anger.

Me:How about the SCAR-L?

Craig:Dude he dosen't know anything about guns.

I completly ignore him.

Reece:Is that the machine gun on planes?

ME:AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Me: GET THE HELL AWAY FROM ME.

Me to Craig:This soo getting put on the ATEFI page

Kunven

 * 1) One day i was in my car with my cousin and a friend and my friend beggan saying he want to be in the rangers just becuase he love the spawn music in Modern Warfare 2 (which is great) and then my cousin says its is better to be a terrorist WTF!
 * 2) My cousin thinks the intervention it is called intervention and when i say to him that its real name is Cheytac M-2000 (not intervention assholes) he thinks i am lyng.
 * 3) One day i was talking with a friend about the Desert Eeagle and a firend come and he think i was talking about and eagle in the dessert LOL.
 * 4) My cousin thinks in the war you can "create yor class"
 * 5) One day i was playing search and destroy and i wast the last one and a friend come and i was going to camp when my friend says fire your machine gun and i was using and ACR i respond to him the ACR is not a machine gun idiot, then when i turn back i was dead lyng in the floor FUCK!
 * 6) One friend thinks that the Strela-3 is a prototype Stinger LOL
 * 7) I was talking to my best friiend about the RPG-7 when he says to me i wish the RPG-7 fire straight like it does in real life.
 * 8) One of my cousin friends thinks the Galil is made in United States it is made in Israel
 * 9) I fucking hate when my online friends see a revolver whatever revolver it is they called it the 44.Magnum even when i show the Mk Webley
 * 10) My cousin thinks the Cheytac M_2000 is more Powerful than the Barett M82 (not barett 50.cal idiots) just because he thinks bolt action rifle looks better and more powerful
 * 11) I was watching a video of the MIcro- Uzi when i read in the comments is not Micro is Mini when it was clearly a Micro-Uzi

JCEHunter
Although I'm only 14, i am very militarily saavy and a WWII intellectual (no not a *haxor* nerd or fps whiz)
 * =Pronunciation=


 * 1) Little MW2 5yrolds thinking that 'Martyrdom' is a made-up word or pronounced as *martydomm*.
 * 2) Idiots saying they'll use 'Snipers' ...not 'Sniper Rifles'.
 * 3) 'Awg Habbar' instead of 'A-U-G_H-B-A-R'
 * 4) Saying FAMAS in only 1 pronunciation and saying that it matters...Whereas it's only abbreviated words. F.A.M.A.S.
 * 5) Other countlees things...(not at mind)
 * Real life Instances
 * 1) Where people think that the M16, FAMAS, and M93 Raffica in real life are ONLY Burst-fire.
 * 2) Where little kids give even littler kids misinformation about...(military, guns, etc.)
 * 3) Where every single lever-action gun ever made is the (similar to) the Model 1887.
 * 4) When people think the PTRS41 is a Sniper Rifle...Anti-Materiel rifle idjits...
 * 5) Where the *Guhvare* becomes the *Gooer*.
 * 6) Where people think that U.S. Marine Scout Snipers quickscope.
 * 7) When little kids think the Green Berets was founded because of the *Barrett(-beret- pronunc.) .50 cal*
 * 8) Where every single gun made by Barrett becomes .50 Caliber.
 * 9) Every single gun made by Izsmach becomes an AK.
 * 10) Every single German (even today) are Nazis *sarcasm* and Japanese are 'Japs' (MoH RS.)

Griffon26

 * My brothers Carter and Chandler were playing like soldiers and Chandler said "Alright carter, you can have the sniper rifle," and Carter said "Yes!!!" and started making deranged noise by flicking his tongue at impossibly fast rates. I was truly afraid that he was going crazy.
 * Also when I was looking on the trailer for Call of Duty: Black Ops it showed a Spetsnaz troop with an AK-47 and in the comments some guy said look at 1:78 and is that gun an RPK-77.
 * When i was young and still playing Medal of Honor (Not the New One which is awesome) I always called the M1911 the Colt .45 :P
 * @ Dragstang Actually it is an AR because Heavy Barreled Automatic Rifle. Keyword RIFLE

Sorry, but I couldn't let this stay this way. Griever isn't talking about errors other people have made, keep making, but he's only listing things that could happen, and not per say have been stated on this page. Asides, you read the entire page? And what about it's history, people could have edited it. Shit, people most likely edited it. TNT LotLP 20:53, September 8, 2010 (UTC)

I know cause I read it all the time, but he said he was tired of seeing ignorance from users of the ATEFI so I must have read it wrong. Griffon26GRIFFON26 OMFG 19:06, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

SaintofLosAngelesXD(m)

 * I was talking a guy who saw an rifle (Beretta RX4 Storm) and called it an AK-47. I proceeded to quiz him on the AK-47. When I asked him what "AK-47" stood for, he said "Awesome Karbine 47-bullet clip". When I asked him what caliber it was, and he said .50 BMG, which he referred to as "the bullet the Deagle shoots", and he also thought "BMG" stood for "big massive gun". I subsequently ordered him out of my house.


 * I was at my friend's house, and his son (my godson) was playing war with his friends. One of them was running around with an Airsoft model of an M1014. Every time he "fired" it, he would make a "chk-chk" sound. I pulled him aside and said, "I'm terribly sorry, but the M1014 does not make a 'chk-chk' sound," much to the amusement of my godson.


 * I was at a cafe with my girlfriend, and a little kid was talking to his friends about Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. He made an ignorant comment, and I proceeded to correct him. Here is a rough outline of the conversation that followed:
 * Kid: ...yeah, I just wished flashbangs existed in real life. Man, that would be friggin' sweet.


 * Me: Uh, kid? Flashbangs do exist.


 * Kid: *Kid stares blankly* No they don't.


 * Me: Yeah, they do. They're used pretty heavily by the S.A.S.


 * Kid: Dude, what are you talking about? The S.A.S. isn't real. Tryarch just made it up for Cod Mod 1.


 * Me: Uh, three things. First, the S.A.S. is definitely real. Second, Infinity Ward made CoD4, not Treyarch. Third, Cod Mod 1? Who the hell calls it that?


 * Kid: Oh, I guess now you're going to tell me that they actually make a full auto shottygun.


 * Me: Uh, yeah, they do. The AA-12 has been around since the '70's, actually.


 * Kid: Whatever man, you're fuckin' retarded.


 * Me: What are you, like eight years old? Don't swear at me. And I'm retarded? How about you try checking Wikipedia sometime?


 * Kid: Huh, I suppose Wikipedia told you that Predator missiles are real too.


 * My girlfriend: Okay, kid, you're obviously an idiot, so you can just shut up and have fun with the rest of your life. Let's go, Spencer. *We get up to leave*


 * Kid, to his friends as we're leaving: Holy shit, those guys were dumb. So, does anybody else think Ghost is Gaz? 'Cuz I've got a few theories... *I tense up in anger*


 * My girlfriend: Just let it go, sweety, just let it go.

Maj.Gage

 * My friend at school asked me "Did you strike the firing pin in the bullet?", and I replied "The firing pin is in the gun, not the bullet dumbass."

Akyoyo

 * I was talking to my "cousin" (his real relation to me is a little more complicated), and he was playing with some airsoft pistols. He was only about 7 years old, so, needless to say, he called the magazine a clip. I tried politely convincing him that it's called a magazine, but he swore left and right that it was called a clip, because of the sound the magazine made going into the magazine well. I told him with that logic, toast should be called "Errch", an onomatopoeia of the sound you make when you eat it. But he's seven, so it was no use.
 * Another little kid thought that my airsoft gun was an "AK". I was using a pistol.

J-money

 * I'm pretty sure this is a ATEFI worthy story since it is a NO BRAINER: So there's this guy that goes to my school, his name is Zach, but for this purpose we will refer to him as Sack. So we were playin some CoD4 one day and he was getting pissed cause he was sucking really bad, which he does all the time. So he said (sorry for the caps lock) "I JUST FIRED A WHOLE ROUND INTO THAT GUY AND IT DIDN'T KILL HIM." He was using an SMG or an assault rifle. I said "Dude I hope didn't take one round to kill him, I think you mean a magazine instead of round." And he started getting pissed again.

Rasmus Nicholson

 * I was in school class, the last class (yay!) well I was talking with my friend about the tommy gun then in recess we continued talking about it, untill 2 kids talking about UMP started saying: did you know that the 45 of the UMP is not of the caliber but is the year it was designed? then the other kid said: you´re dumb are you right? the 45 is for the clip size! Oh shit you can imagine the rest.


 * I was hanging out with friends on starbucks, just when I see a bunch of kids talking about MW2, then in a few seconds a kid says: you know what would be cool? that EOTech really have the reticule! Well I just calmly said: dude, EOTech technology uses the reticule. kid: of course not! its like saying that heartbeat exist´s! me: well, my dad serves service at Colombian army and he mounted an EOTech on his M4, even I have one in my home and it works perfectly. After that the kid maked silence, I just go back to my home.

Ghost Leader

 * (Random YouTube comment I read once)
 * "No, no, you got it all wrong! The M16A2 fires 3 round bursts and full auto, the M16A3 is a 7.62mm belt-fed version of the A2 designed as a heavy machine gun, there's no such thing as an M16A4, the M4 fires 2 round burst, 3 round burst, and full auto, and the M4A1 only fires full auto and has a quick-change barrel. Trust me, I'm a staff sergeant in the US Coast Guard!"


 * Needless to say, I laughed for days at this comment. XD


 * Here's another good one: Apparently the reason the AK is so reliable is because the round has an anti-jam mechanism built into it. XD

CoD addict
Typical shit said by my friends:


 * The Ranger is a real shotgun.


 * The FAL shoots .50 BMG.


 * Shotguns can only shoot for 20 yards in real life.


 * All lever action shotguns (sometimes even rifles) are "Models." FUCK!


 * It is rightfully so that the M9 and the USP .45 do the same damage.


 * It is possible to reload two weapons in each hand faster than with one in both hands.


 * Silencers shouldn't reduce range, because the ammo definitely doesn't need to be subsonic to actually be quiet and not fuck up the silencer.


 * In the military, dropping your rifle to pick up a shit terrorist gun won't get you in trouble.


 * You can really kill someone with a knife that is lobbed from 75 feet away.


 * The Desert Eagle is the ultimate tactical combat pistol.


 * You can see infrared lasers from a Claymore.


 * Riot Shields really can block bullets from a high powered rifle.


 * You get to "pick" which weapon you use before combat.

On this wiki, I once saw an edit that said "It seems, when you reload an M4 in game, you press and indvisible button on the side of the gun". An impersonal "you," a spelling error, two punctuation errors, and ONE BIG FAT CASE OF FIREARM IGNORANCE!
 * U-M-P is pronounced "Ump," likewise, the F-A-L is the "Faal" and the A-U-G is the "Ogg."
 * The M4 and M4A1 are the same.

Casual_T

 * After I bought my M14S, my dad refinished the stocks. When my sister saw it she said "OH MY GOD, is there a gun in that?"
 * NO! Its a stock idiot!


 * I was looking at pictures of guns on a school computer (after school) and a guy said "Why do you like guns?" I said "Why do you like Xbox 360?" He said "Cause it doesn't kill people." So this guy plays 360 for the specific reason that it WON'T kill anyone.


 * My friend was talking to a friend of his about MW2 the day after it came out, and I happened to overhear. He said "Dude, have you seen the new Call of Duty? There's a new M16 in the game, it's called the FAMOUS!". Obviously he thought that the FAMAS was an M16 because of the three-round burst.


 * My teacher on an M1 Garand "Is that a bolt action?"


 * I generally just get a lot of BS from my friends in German class about any gun in any CoD.
 * eg.
 * -The Steyr AUG is NOT an assault rifle they say. It clearly says LMG.
 * -The TAR-21 means Top Assault Rifle.
 * -The TAR-21 has actual tar to lubricate it as oil, hence the name.
 * -The whole M1 Garand ping sound and mid-clip reloading argument. Come on, don't argue with me, I own one.
 * -Them thinking that the Desert Eagle is general issue.
 * -All M16s are full auto.
 * -Clip/mag and cartridge/bullet arguments.
 * -"When they put the AK74U in CoD4, they spelled it wrong. It's supposed to be AK47U".
 * -Gewehr is pronounced as GOO-ER.

Poketape

 * I hate when people say they love the Model 1887s and how the army must still use them everywhere because of how powerful they are in the game.

Chantufan
OK, I have heard people call the listed guns the listed WRONG names.

FAMAS isn't a famous

FAL isn't a fall, fail

Gewehr isn't a goo-er

Thompson isn't a tommy gun, thompson (without silent H)

UMP isn't a ump, hump

SCAR isn't a scar (I usually don't care if SCAR is said this way as long as people know that it's a SCAR, not a scar.)

Desert Eagle isn't a deagle

Cheytac 200 isn't a Intervention (The Cheytac Intervention is actually a weapons system ,not a weapon for those not in ATEFI.

TNT LotLP
I saw a cellphone picture of one of my co-workers firing what looked like some kind of LMG, mainly due to the magazine of the weapon (hard to make out, it was very blurry) so I said. "Huh, don't know what you're firing there, but it's some kind of light machine gun/support weapon." to which he replied. "No dude, it's a MAG!" Bah, seriously?

Also, a friend of mine at work claimed that the intervention was the best sniper rifle EVAR!!! Of course, I proceeded to ask him questions. I asked him, "what cartridge does it fire?" -- "what?"-- "....wat kind of bullet does it shoot?" -- "Oh, the same as the Barret" -- "....No" "Of course it does, you noob! If they had interventions in the army when they invaded Iraq, they would have been easily able to shoot all of the taliban right now cause the gun is super accurate and powerful" -- "And where on earth was the US army planning on getting all of their marksman Interventions? Not to mention that they would have to get a lot of specialized ammo." -- "No dude, of course not, they use that bullet from the barret. they put that in machine guns all the time, I'm sure they have lots of it" "But it doesn't use that ammo" "Yes it does" "..don't you think they would be better off with... I dunno, M21's? to put it in COD terms?" "You mean the M21 EBR" "Yeah... that doesn't exist in real life, but still" "it does!" "Let's discuss that some other time" "But why do you want to use that pussy sniper instead of like.. the barret?" "Well, .50 BMG is pretty heavy. it's handier to carry around 7.62*51. Besides, there sure as hell won't be an ammo deficiency. "...what? 7.61? what?" "The bullet the M21 fires" "The M21 EBR?" "...for the sake of argument, yes." "So..." "what?" "That means that it fires a bullet about 14 times bigger than the barret?" "What? No. What gave you that impression." "Well, you said that that other bullet was .50 and that other one was 7.62. and .50 is definately a lower number."

"Please. stop. talking. to. me."

II Superlative
Things that people have believed:

That the Barrett 50cal is actually called that, not the M82A1.

That the FAMAS is only capable of burst fire.

That you can actually fire a Barrett M82A1 or Cheytac Intervention accurately from the shoulder or hip.

That the recoil involved in dual wielding two heavy 120 year old lever action shotguns is actually controllable and that it wouldn't break your fingers when you try to spin-cock them.

P

Cpl. Wilding
My friend's dad was listening to us talk about WWII bolt-action rifles, like the Springfield and Kar98k. He commented to us that we were wrong and that you could just keep pulling the trigger then pull the bolt back and reload. I told him that my grandfather has a Korean bolt-action rifle, and that he told me that to use it you need to rotate the bolt every time you fire. He kept insisting he was right. I told him that he doesn't understand the concept of "bolt-action" and to please locate and research the term on Wikipedia. He hasn't talked to me directly since.

Mr. Pie

 * A friend and I were online when we met some little kid (I can't remember his tag, but it had "jew" somewhere in it) who claimed to own an AK-47. Immediately, we called BS and proceeded to ask him what caliber "his gun" used. Right after we asked him, though, we heard him put his microphone down and, shortly after, the game started to lag, enough for us to claim that he was looking on Wikipedia for the answer when he came back. His response: "Why are you talking about something that has nothing to do with the game?" which was ironic because the game we were playing was Gears of War, making what we said as irrelevant to the game as irrelevant as anything he said. After a few more minutes of verbal abuse from us and the couple on our team (they sent us friend requests afterwards), the little snot quit.


 * The reason I don't read my local newspaper anymore: "They were seen firing rounds of cartridges." It's one thing not knowing terminology, but a very different thing to spam jargon you don't understand.


 * In history class, we were watching a movie on the Civil War, and our teacher paused to explain bayonets and their use. My friends and I nearly fell out of our seats laughing after a student asked, "So, you put the bayonet on and you can shoot a knife from the gun?"


 * Team Deathmatch on Crossfire:

Ignoramus: What's everyone using?

Me: M14.

Ignoramus: M14 sucks dude, use an M16, it's the best gun.

Me: Shut your face. The M14 would have kept Ivan out of Korea and your little .223 BB-gun lost 3 wars.

Ignoramus: (shuts up for the rest of the game)


 * An employee of a local airsoft shop keeps an airsoft gun he uses on people who call machine pistols such as the MAC-10 "Uzis." I've seen it happen. Respect.


 * Zombie discussion with my friends in English class. A kid was talking about how the M1A1 Carbine, or "the gun on the cover of the Zombie Survival Guide" would be the best gun to have. I told him that one, not having a folding stock, the weapon is not an M1A1 but an M1, two, there is no all-around best weapon in a zombie invasion or otherwise, and, three, that the M1 Carbine is far from the best choice for rifles because .30 Carbine is quite rare (he thought it shot .30-'06). His reply: "Well, you'll still want me on your side because I get a lot of headshots in Combat Arms." Haven't taken him seriously since.
 * Couple of potheads in my drafting class, I know I shouldn't take them too seriously, but one day, they were fairly convinced that the AK-47 was a .50 caliber weapon.

Razgriez

 * A big issue, is listening to anyone say "Well the 1994 U.S. Assault Weapons Ban prevents dangerous Machine guns from being made available to the public and criminals". This annoys me to no end for several reasons. 1. the AWB did NONE of that. Fully Automatic weapons have been banned/restricted from Civilian ownership since before World War II. It banned weapons by features or looks such as pistol grips, detachable magazines (any kind, even 5 or 10 shot rifle/pistol magazines) . One of the most ardent supporters wanted to ban barrel shrouds (for those that don't know, a barrel shroud is a vented metal or plastic device that surrounds the barrel to allow better aim/safer control of the gun, and to prevent burning you're hand on the hot barrel after prolonged firing, YES even Single shot, or semi auto guns can have their barrels heat up. I've seen someone burn their hand by touching a break action single shot 20 gauge shot gun after a good number of shots were fired from it). When asked what a Barrel shroud was, she replied "I actually don't know what a barrel shroud is... I believe it is a shoulder thing that goes up.". 2. Just because a weapon may be based on an assault rifle, does not make it an assault rifle. there are Civilian legal semi auto fire arms, like those based on the AR-15, popular for target shooting and hunters.
 * People who call Assault rifle or Semi Automatic rifle based on an Assault rifle, "Machine Guns". Semi Automatic Trigger, + 10-15 round magazines does not constitute "machine gun"
 * I'll admit.. I was one of those guys who used to go "DUDE How come the XM8 isn't in games more often" ... Up until I learnt about some of the issues with the gun...Now I'm the one giving glares to those who say that XD.
 * Any time I hear some one go "Guns kill people!". I cringe everytime I hear that before having to gently remind them, its an inanimate object. It doesn't wake up in the morning and go "You know what, I hate my life and everyone today... I'm going to go on a shooting spree followed with a case of suicide by cop". It's amazing how no one shouts "Knives kill people!" everytime they butter their breakfast muffins or dinner rolls.
 * The KS-23 Shotgun from BO, apparently to some people means "Kill Shot" or "Kill switch". It's doesn't mean that at all..

Redmax29
Just PM me for examples but I have too many examples! here's one there is no such thing as the best gun, every firearm has it's own specialty and is used for different reasons and full auto or lightning linked or high caliber doesn't make it "strong" i am also sick of people talking like rofl, lol, ppl, brb and other shit, learn to spell!

DevilWarrior112

 * Something in school. Last year, talking about World at War. I said to my mate that the PPSH-41 was a submachine-gun but he said it was a machine-gun. I was like "What?" and he kept saying it. My other mates kept saying it was a submachine-gun. Eventually he gave up and told me I was a bastard.
 * Before COD4 came out, I was talking about the Barrett .50 Cal with my dad. He said the B stood for bolt-action!!!!!

Doc.Richtofen

 * My Brother: What's a firearm?
 * My Brother: What's Firearm Ignorance?
 * My Brother: You could easily flip Akimbo Model 1887's!

Slowrider7
So me, my friend Michael, my neighbor Cody, and Codys friend Jamie were all firing my airsoft guns. Jamie was saying he would want to be a SWAT Team officer when he grows up. Here is the word for word:

Jamie: Yeah man, I would throw a Flash Grenade and then shoot my AK-47 'till all 100 bullets are gone.

(Me & Michael, already rolling on the floor laughing, say:)

Me: Oh yeah man? What is your side-arm?

Jamie: Akimbo Desert Eagles like I do in Call of Duty!

I statred crying, srsly.

Codfan
Once I went over to my friend's house and started playing the spec ops mission, Sniper Fi. He keeps saying to use my beretta, I'm like there's no M9's in this mission. I realize he means the Barrett .50 cal, I tell him it was a Barrett .50 cal. Then he tells me again to pick up my Beretta, I told him it was a Barret but he's like, no it says Beretta. I don't know if he either can't read, or he doesn't know what gun that is. My friend doesn't know what a cutts compensator is, he thinks it's the cocking handle for the Thomspon. -_- My friends think the SCAR-H is an assault rifle. The biggest problem is that the G18 isn't a G18, but a G17 with a modification(in the game). My friend thinks that the AA-12 doesn't exist. He thinks that the AK-47 is the most accurate gun in the world. My friends can't see the difference between the AKM and the AK-47. My friend think that the riot shield can block 5000 rounds from a minigun. My friend thinks that the M1 Garand is a bolt action rifle. -_- I have more stories than this, I just have to crack my head for it. Anyways, it's 12:15 here in SoCal and I gots to sleep. My friend thinks the AA-12 stands for Auto Assault Shotgun. They think the AUG is a LMG because it says so in the game.

Uh, sorry to disappoint you, but the two A's in AA-12 also stand for Auto Assault. And the SCAR-H is an assault rifle, just a SCAR-L heavier barrel I believe. Pvt. Trueblood Hello? 00:30, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nope, the SCAR-H is a battle rifle; it fires a full size round (7.62mm NATO) rather than an intermediate one (5.56mm NATO) like the SCAR-L. 00:38, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Oops. I was thinking about the AUG A1 and the AUG HBAR. MW_Pickup_Colt45.png Pvt. Trueblood Hello? Hud_aug.png 03:23, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Once, my friend has fake wooden springfield.

him: I'm gonna take my M1 Garand for my history report presentation. (holds up his fake springfield)

me: Dude, that's a springfield.

him: It's a garand

me: no it's a springfield, look at the bolt

him: ya it's a garand

me: that's a bolt action rifle!

him: ya garand was bolt action you idiot!

me: no the garand is semiautomatic

him: ya! look at the bolt! you cock that one time, then after the next shot you cock it again!

me: Oh ya. Then what does a bolt action do?

him: It fires as long as you pull the trigger after the next shot you dumbass! Don't you know anything about guns?

me: that's a bolt action springfield!

him: it's a semiautomatic garand!

me: sigh.

Sharky boi
(Me and my mate are playing the favela mission on MW2 when he walks past a Model 1887)

Me: Hey look, jeez they're goin back a bit with that gun.

My mate: What that shotgun?

Me: Yeah.

My mate: Its not real.

Me: Yes it is.

My mate: No its not, they did'nt have shotguns back in the 1800's, just pistol's.

(i give him a blank look, he pauses the game.)

My mate: What?

Me: Your an absolute idiot, the had muskets, pistols, stationary Machine guns and the Brit's the Lee Einfeld in the 1890's.

My mate: its FAKE! I'll prove it to you. I've done this mission, i've used this gun before.

(He unpauses the game and picks up the model 1887.)

My mate: look at the lever on the handle, all shotguns have them on the barrel and look, it has blue bullets, all bullets are red.

Me: Theyre meant to be blue SHELLS, not all shotguns are pump-action and ITS REAL!

My mate: No its not.

(i sit back in the chair and give him a blank look.)

My mate: i told you.

Me: (muttering) ohhhh for gods sake.

My brother actually thought that the AK-47 was a chinese assault rifle. grrrr.

7th Body

My friend Collin comes over to play Nazi Zombies. He goes to the Random Box. He says:

"I'm gonna get the Desert Eagle!"

Me: "This is World War 2"

Collin: Yeah. Your point is?"

Me: Desert Eagle is modern idiot."

Collin: Is it really?"

Army guy 277
When pepole think the AUG HBAR is a Assualt rifle and the normal AUG is a light machine gun no the hbar stands for heavy barled atomatic rifle.witch makes it a LMG

Another big thing is pepole Call the Stg-44 the MP-44 there was no such thingfirst it was the Mp-43 but when hitlier got to see the wepon he renamed it the storm wepon 44 or the STG-44

and the by far biggest thing is pepole who think that the PTRS-41 is a Fucking sniper rifle

Shockwolf10
In class, our history teacher was showing us political cartoons about gun control. There was one that had a hand in the shape of a gun pointing at a hand carrying what was clearly a machine pistol (Looked to be a Mini Uzi from where I was because of the shape and ironsights, but I'm nearsighted and sit kind of far from the board). She said "I think that's a semi-automatic pistol." I took a closer look and saw the extended mag. "No, that's a machine pistol, look at the extended mag." I realize that people can/do extend the mags of semi-autos, but this was a political cartoon, so it was probably meant to be a machine pistol.

LITE992*
Here's some examples of kids (or other people) and what they think. Failures.
 * Shotguns can only shoot as far as they can in CoD.
 * No-scoping makes the bullet go anywhere but straight.
 * The Model 1887 has the perfect range for a shotgun.
 * The Model 1887 was the first shogun ever made.
 * All sniper teams use M21s.
 * Pistols need to be held Tactical Knife-style.
 * It's not the CheyTac M2000. It clearly says Intervention.
 * The M4A1 SOPMOD consists of a Red Dot Sight, Silencer, and Grenade Launcher. Nothing else.
 * If you get shot by the Barrett .50cal, you would be missing an arm.

daoneandonlyharry
I laughed when I heard that Washington State's government was proposing a ban on all guns with clips bigger than 10 rounds. It truly made me laugh. It's like, USP .45 has just been outlawed, but AA-12 and M82 haven't. It's just so ridiculously apparent that whoever wrote the bill has never seen, touched, or studied guns.

Zaqq

 * I laughed when read post where someone said that his grandpa hunting rifle is better than AA-12.
 * I laugh every time, when someone place TAR-21's MARS sight like that.

Brothertim
I understand this isn't directly corresponding to an ignorance story, but it makes me laugh after reading daoneandonlyharry's post, it reminded me about the firearm laws in america.

I find it very wierd that:


 * You CANNOT buy a full-auto handgun (even a .22lr), a suppressor, or put a front grip/retractable stock on a handgun (google the GSG5-PK for what I mean) without paying lots of tax, or registering it through BATFE


 * You CAN, however, walk into a gun shop and walk out with a .50 BMG rifle and a very nice scope (except california).

Gen.Cain
(Sorry for the spelling errors)

I know there are so many stories like this but i must share it. I was at a cousins house for the holidays and my Grandparents haveing no idea what they got me(it was an airsoft M16) I opened it and my cousin screamed how come [insert my name here] gets a terriorist gun and i get a lego. Upon which my grandpa goes why did i get you an AK-47 are you trying to join a terrorist group. Me and my dad (who plays and sucks at COD) were hysterical

One day for comunity service me and my friend were helping at a book fair. We were helping read to 1st graders, these three kids come up to me and my friend and go, read this page to us (its a picture). Then the kids take it back and start saying oh look at the U.S marines shooting their tommy guns. It was a pitcure of some terrorists with AK-47's you can imagine my expression.

On XBL- Kid: Yes I got a Pavelow (but he said Paavlowe) So i go dude it's pavelow then he goes no its Paavlowe it was made by the french i would know cause my dad is part of the french army

Lieutenant Mikey
I was in school and i was in drama class. We were doing a game where we each would start writing a story and then pass it on for others to finish. I got passed this story where someones tutor was coming over. I really disliked this girl so i made that she took out a pistol and shot her tutor. When she got the story back she went over to me and asked me what a Magazine was. Knowing how dumb she is I told her. She didn't know what a magazine in a gun was. "Exasperated sound."

This other time we were watching a Documentary about hurricane katrina and this civilian they were Interviewing said that the U.S. military came with there "Ak-47"'s. Anyone with any intelligence knows the U.S. government does not use Ak-47's. And the sad part was that only my friends and i (one of whom was Gen. Cain) knew how stupid he was.

Dolten
Ok, I was at school about 2 years ago, talking to this dude who's dad owns a gun shop.

Heres a little outline

Dude: *shows a pitcure of a "grease gun"* Take a look my dad just got me a MP-40

Me: Really? Thats not a MP-40 yo.

Dude: Bullshit

Me: For real, it's amarican made.

Dude: NO IT ISNT!!

Me: Ok look see that stock? That thing has TWICE the stock of most MP-40's, then look at the end of the barrel.

Dude: You're full of shit man, and there is no such thing as a grease gun.

I break out my psp, get to the pitcure of a MP-40

Me:Ok look at that.

Pitcure of a grease gun.

Dude:......... there the same thing.

Me:Never-fucking-mind

Alright, you know how people think the AUG HBAR is a LMG and CANNOT be anything else? Well I have a AUG A3 showed it to a friend of mine, he said "I didn't know you had a machine gun!!!" enough said.

"Gangstas" -_-

Test35965
Bruce Willis calling an M4 a fully automatic UZI while on letterman.

SMS1996

 * A conversation with me, and three friends about MW2.

Ledj: Which would you guys prefer? SCAR-H or M16?

Cris: I would get the SCAR because it can get one shot kills above the neck.

Me: You know that's only in-game right?

Cris: No, it can do that, even when shot on the foot!

Me: *facepalm*

Cris: I'll show you! I can use it to get that tactical bomb thingy.

Me: *blank stare with mouth slightly open*


 * My sister calling the MP5k an MPk5. Epic fail.

Drjuki

 * Me and my friend live right next door to each other so we're hoppin the fence with my toy Uzi and this conversation appears.

My friend: dude, let's go get your Uzi out of your closet and play with it.

Me: Uh, I'm holdin' my Uzi

Friend: No your other one is a Uzi.

Me: You mean my Micro-Uzi?

Friend: No that's an Uzi, there is no Micro Uzi.

Me: Yeah there is, there's the Uzi, (shows him toy Uzi) Uzi Carbine, Mini Uzi, and Micro Uzi.

Friend: No! theres only the Uzi!

Me: Then whats this (shows him Uzi).

Friend: (Blank stare)

Friend: (10 Seconds later) I don't know, I just know it's not an Uzi!

Me: come with me

(I brought him to my house and show him the IMFDB page for Uzis)

Me: There.

Friend: (Reads) That's the Internet It's just fake.

Me: Whatever.

(Um COD 7 is going to be called MW3 Matt G) we got into a big blowout if the Single atcion army is called the peacekeeper or the peacemaker. I kept telling him it's the latter but he wouldn't give. 3 weeks later I showed him the IMFDB page for the SAA and he finally gave in.
 * At school theres this kid who disagrees with evrything I say, to give you an example he still thinks Cod 7 Is gonna be MW3, and one time

Darthkenobi0
I hear guys talking about CoD constantly at school. So many of these guys are like "dood get the uzi its better than any other weapon dood." those same guys do pot. Many of them also think that the intervention sucks monkey balls just because it's awesome XD (but really some guy didn't like it because of its sway). I knew a guy that thought the Kar98K was a full, long-barrelled rifle.  Darthkenobi0 Talk
 * I was watching the news, needless to say I was quite angry when some general (who had retired before the M16 had become the standard issue rifle) stated that the 5.56x45NATO round or .223 calibre as he called it (which is technically incorrect as they are SLIGHTLY different, see: 5.56x45 NATO vs .223 Remington) was an inferior round compared to the 7.62x39mm round fired by the AK-47 simply because it was smaller and "packs less of a punch". He had obviously never heard of hydro-static shock (tumbling) and obviously had no idea what the fuck he was talking about. Sure he was a general, but it is the general consensus that the 5.56 NATO is a superior round (Why the hell have we been using it for half a century, and why the hell is it an official NATO round if it isn't?) and that the AK-47, while a competent rifle, isn't QUITE the best.
 * Before I got MW2, this kid alex (no I won't capitalize that shithead's name) told me about it. He had determined that every weapon in-game was real. Except the SCAR. When I told him it was completely real he called me stupid. I'd also like to add (although it has little to do with firearms, but shows how stupidity can spread beyond firearms knowledge) that he thought that all Germans that joined the Wehrmacht (which he didn't know how to spell) the Luftwaffe (which he also didn't know how to spell) or the Kriegsmarine (which he didn't even know existed) was a Nazi, because they didn't fight the overwhelming Nazi forces. ALSO when I looked up MW2 weaponry, I found the Vector and the ACR, which are not very well known, so how the hell did he think they were real and not the SCAR which I've been dreaming about for a decade? (Yes since I was 6)
 * Who in the army decided the Beretta M9 really was superior to the M1911? Do we trade clip/magazine size for stopping power? Why don't we leave that up to individual troops?
 * Before I was educated, they had me convinced that the M16 used the 7.62x51, and that the Ak-47 did too. They also had me convinced (until I was about 10) that the M4 was the M16 with M203 attached.
 * History teacher says that the major inventions of the Great War (WWI) were:
 * Submarines (they weren't used as widely as battleships until WWII, but he thought the Germans were U-Boat crazy even then)
 * Barbed wire (not an invention, just innovatively utilized with trenches)
 * Gatling guns (NO THE F**KING MAXIM GUN WAS THE NEW ONE)
 * Airplanes (he thought that forward mounted guns would just shoot the props off like a buzz saw)
 * I've seen so many people call the FAL a medium assault rifle. It uses the 7.62x51 NATO which makes it a battle rifle. I've heard the same about the M4A1 which is a carbine (short-barreled assault-rifle in layman's terms).
 * In the MW series why do the M4A1, M16A4, ACR, FAMAS, L86, M249, TAR21 and F2000 not share ammunition? They are all STANAG standard or compatible. Major issues with this I have.
 * I've heard so many dumbasses in school talk about guns, saying the M9 is better than the M4 because it's smaller, but is just as accurate (not at range loser). That same alex kid thinks that the FAL is the best because you can get one-shot kills and head-shots with it. (Head's up mother fuckers you can do that with ANY weapon.)
 * Mythbusters think that all cartridges are equal. They pay no heed to muzzle velocity, stopping power, or the differences between the .30-06 and the 7.62x51. They also completely ignore the fact that a skilled shooter will stiffen his arm to aim with the entire arm, and aim with their wrists. They used an MP5 to try to replicate the results of the Underworld scene (I've never seen it) where (I don't know, the girl) uses a pair of modified M92's (well undefined weapons, likely fully automatic M93 modified) to shoot through a floor. They used wood instead of tile in the replica set, which affects results, they also paid no heed to the fact that the MP5 has a longer barrel and muzzle velocity than an actual pistol. When they tried shooting locks off they did not take into account that you fire at the bolt itself, at a forty-five degree angle, and instead fired at a thirty degree angle straight into the keyhole.
 * My mother and one of my best friends think that guns are evil -.-
 * Guns don't kill people. I kill people ~ some random t-shirt
 * Many people at school think that every weapon is just like it is in CoD. They think you can just shoot down helicopters with rifles. (Considering a chopper can kill you fast and move fast, it's pretty hard.)
 * I know this guy who seriously thought that Makarov couldn't have killed Allen because he used an M9. (Shooting a person in the face will generally make them bleed out or do some damage to the brain region smartypants.)
 * Mythbusters, while awesome, just called an M14 an assault rifle.
 * User on here thinks in MW Deagle was .44 and in MW2 was .357.
 * History's "America: The Story of US" said "M1 Carbine" and showed an "M1 Garand"


 * I read this page... the lack of any true intelligence made me fear for the future of humanity...


 * If you don't scream, you are a brave man indeed...

alexwalker
a guy i know keeps calling a magazine a round,

i heard a couple of people saying that a barratt is a sniper rifle that is very easy to manouver with. i told em it was an anti material rifle and it was a bugger to move around expecaly with a suppresser and carrying a load of ammo, they looked at me like i had sprouted wings and was dive bombing them with shit.

Cpl. Dunn
I always tell him: "No dude, you are wrong. It is the Barrett .50 cal."
 * My friend calls the Barrett .50 cal the Berretta .50 cal.
 * Same friend says that the ONLY pistol the Canadian Army uses is a, as he would call it: "Deagle".
 * Same friend says that the Canadian Army is equipped with AK-47s.
 * Same friend says that a magazine is something you read and a clip is something you put into a gun.

Him: "Whatever. They are made by the same company."

Me: "Go on your computer tonight and look up Barrett then look up Berretta. They are two seperate companies."

Him: "I know more about the army than you!"

Me: "Go away." I walk away.

I have so many more stories about this one friend but it would take me hours to write them all. (Seriously, he must be retarded.)

rmpcop1
Ok so me and my dad on the way home from the mall and me and him start this converation 

Me : hey you ever heard of the G18 its an awesome its a glock full auto machine pistol 

My dad: No cause it dosent exist

Me:yes it does

My dad: stop talking idoit it dosent exist

My thoughts: god little mother of course it does

Pvt. Reddenbawker
I have some real bullshit stories.

So me and my friend were walking back to class when the following conversation pops up:

Friend: Hey y'know the M1A1 Carbine is still in service?

Me: No. It's not.

Friend: Well, they still have it on boats so it's still in service.

'Also, you know those eyewitness books? I read one today about WW2 and it was full of fails. For one and most important fail, it showed a picture of an "American" jeep. It had no American star, and most important, had a Lewis machine gun in the gunner seat! It also showed (this is my last one because I don't remeber any more) an American flamethrower with something that looked like a cylinder jack in the box. AND NO, IT WASN'T THE M2 FLAMETHROWER! Well, that's it, for now.'

Squelliot
Someone at school thinks that its possible to fire a 30 caliber from the hip very accurately with one hand because Arnold did it in Terminator.

People at school think you can fire two high powered weapons (Desert Eagle, 1887) in each hand at the same time, or being accurate with two MP5ks or two Glocks.

Mythbusters calling a M1 Garand a M14. (no offense)

News Channels not knowing anything about firearms.

SaintofLosAngelesXD(m) calling an AKS74-U and AKS47-U (Probably a typo don't punish me)

Toilet Bowl Soldier
My idiot friend says that the Double Barreled Shotgun is made by Nazi Germany and even if I gave him proof, he is still in denial. He claimed that it was on the Call of Duty World at War Guidebook and it was *facepalm*

The same idiot friend saw a Colt 1911 with a flashlight on it and said it was a USP.45 just because it looks like the AN/PEQ 6 LAM on it. He also saidthat ALL USP's have it.

Same idiot said that all M16's fire in burst. He also said that after MW2 came out, the MP5k replaced the normal MP5 which I find ridiculous.

This is the most ignorant one out of all the stupid facts.

Me: This is the Benelli M4

Friend: No... thats the M1014.

Me: the Benelli M4 IS the M1014.

Friend: you are stupid, the Benelli M4 is Italian, the M1014 is American.

Me: You need to do some research and get your facts right...

There is a WWII museum in my country and they called the Luger a Nambu.

Dark Frager
My friend (who claims to know everything about guns) said this:

Him: Man I wish I could own a 9mm.

Me: Bullet or Gun?

Him: A gun... DUH!

Me: No not really "DUH!" because there's a bullet called a 9mm and guns that fire 9mm bullets.

Him: Guns? There's only one 9mm gun!

Me: *facepalm*


 * I come to his house again and he shows me his Airsoft MP5*

Him: This gun looks like an SAS gun...

Me: Its an MP5

Him: Yeah it's an MP5

I could hear the lack of knowledge in his voice!

I suck big dick!

CodExpert
This is what my friend asked me:

Him: Hey, do you know what gun Soap killed Zakhaev with?

Me: It was a M1911 Colt .45

Him: OK, what caliber does it fire (His exact words)

Me: *Facepalm*

NeloAngelo97
Okay, i have a few.

First, one of my "friends" appraoches me, and starts talking about a film. Before finishing he mentions "she slides the cartridges into the gun in mid-air". I stop him mid-sentence with a slap to the face. And respond "Whoa, whoa, cartridges? Dude, magazine, NOT cartridge." He pulls a queer face and responds "Same 'hing". I slap him on the face, and respond "No, they aren't". He tries to slap back, poorly, and i move out of the way, before responding "Poor show, lemme educate chu". I slow to a normal walk. "First off, a cartidge is what HOLDS the BULLET. A magazine is what HOLDS the ROUNDS for the GUN." He smirks "Oh yeah, then WTF is a round?" I punch him in the shoulder, "Round? Round refers to the combination of the Bullet & The cartridge." He smirks again "Whitever". I punch him again, tell him to get out of my sight, and then walk away.

'Nother jackass thought that the UMP isn't even real.

Helix Armada
I hate it when I go onto videos about guns and see a bunch of people who think they know all about guns because they play Modern Warfare 2. Seriously? Your actually think that a sniper can quickscope and noscope in real life? Accurately?

1.) My brother saw me looking at pictures of the CheyTac M200 and its associated equipment, and he asked, "Is that a shotgun?".

Me: *Facepalm*

2.) In my history class, a person defined a rifle as "a gun with a knife".

3.) I saw a Youtube video of "Top 10 assualt rifles" (these were the uploader's opinnion). Out of 10 choices, 2 were the M1 Garand (intelligently pronounced "garland") and the Lee Enfield.

I wanted to post a comment correcting this ignorance, except comments were disabled. =(

4.) Title of a Youtube video: "AK-47 Shotgun"

ಠ_ಠ

5. Youtube comments will be the death of me. I'm going to devote this particular section just for them.

"no, you are idiot, AUG HBAR is heavy muchine gun but STEYR AUG is﻿ assault rifle you idiot"

"If RPGs have﻿ scopes why not put scopes on hand grenades to?"

"wow do u have to reload after like 2﻿ or 3 shots?? thats a waste of ammo"

"i dont think minguns has recoil"

This particular comment dosen't deal with firearms, but it's pretty fail all the same.

(Exact words)

SAS=SOCOM U.S.M.C= US﻿ Marine Core

"the tavor 21 was made in isreal want was a gun that could conquer there other honeland gun the galil which made up for the he aviness of the﻿ fn fal so﻿ the tavor 21 would shoot 5,62 caliber bullets it could also be used as a sniper rifle that was bull pup"

Fail.

In reply to several comments I posted about sniper rifles on a video about the Styer AUG:

"A mile and a half??? When I was in the US Army I hit targets with my M-198 over ten miles away"

The M198 is a howizter. Of course a M198 would be able to hit a target that far off. Your statement is irrelevant to the conversation. We're talking about sniper rifles here...

"thats a 5.6.5 or something round from a﻿ fal"

6. The History Channel called the BAR an assault rifle.

7. On Youtube (suprise, suprise), someone saw an FN P90 and called it a FAMAS. A bloody FAMAS. -_-

Bmoreravens12
Some random guy on wikianswers-

"Does the Silencer reduce the amount of damage done on the Baretta?"

My classmates are idiots when it comes to weapons,

My Friend- Last night on call of duty i was using Barretta 50 cal and i was getting that plane thing so much in my stupid care packegese. ( Reffering to UAV and i don't know why he told me that. )

Me- Ok listen, first off it is called the barrett not barretta. Second barrett and barretta are two different companies. Third the barrett is accutally called the M82A1.

My friend- Where did you get that wikipedia?

Me- Well the last one yes but i knew that for 3 years now.

My friend- Ok smartie, so i guess that the intervintion is a not its real name.

Me- * Facepalm *

Oh and the comments on youtube are even worse.

" I hate the f2000 becuase i cant get any kills with it it is the worse gun ever. "

" I wish that that acrs were real, we would have won the iraq war real early. "

" UAV online " ( Like 2,000 of those. ) ( Not a firearm thing but still very annoying. )

" this gun sux in MW2, so why so great in real life combat? "

" dat gun sux!!!! n mw2 cant even kill a guy in 1 hit kills!!!!! "

Some random guy on MW2- Man dude if i had like one more round in my clip i would have killed him.

Me- * Facepalm* I left after that.

Also people who think ALL guns use magazines.

CoD_BEAST
One of my PSN friends calls the Model 1887 the "Moodel 1878878 (or some random number)" and the MP5k the "M5k' or "Mk5". And a friend at school calls the M14 EBR the "M21 Ember". Hell, even Infinity Ward calls the MP5k "MP5K" with a capital "k". In a MW2 video on YouTube, someone said "I hate the F2000 it gots too much recoil and it's weak!" I ESPECIALLY HATE WHEN people think any Kalashnikov rifle is an AK-47, or when people say ANY automatic weapon is an AK-47. And now, my Lil' Brother is calling a magazine a cartridge. *Faceplam x7* CoD_BEAST 17:39, April 8, 2010 (UTC)

Shotrocket6
Over IM with my friend, discussing Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter

Me: Dude! There's an M99 in this game!?

Him: is that the barret <--(only one t) 50cal

Me: One of them.

Him: dude there's only one barret 50cal the one in mw2

*facepalm x12*

Me: There's like five Barrett .50cal's, dude.

Him: no dude theres only one

FUCK!

Me: Your a dumbass...

Him: so if there's like 5 barrets then there has to be like 5 interventions

Me: Get oot.

Another time, in physics class, discussing with my pal Zac the .50 BMG I had bought at WWII weekend.

Zac: Wow, that's a really big bullet!

Me: Yeah.

Zac: So does that mean the Desert Eagles clip is like, this big? (Holds up hands 6 inches apart)

Me: F-F-F-F-FACEPALM

N'thro Notadee

 * My Friend thinks that the M4 carbine is the M16
 * Same friend thinks that the XM8 is used by first force recon as a long range tactical weapon (yeap,Does not make sense)

MrSp3d
People say I killed u with a 9mm

and The FAMAS is only burst (Play GRAW 2 its not only burst) Youu can really spam Barrett ,50cal shots like in the game

False! ~Shotrocket6

Rambo362
I normally have to educate my little bro's friends on weapons. Here's some of the stupid things they thought one could do with firearms: When I heard these, I laughed my ass of for 2 days, but not before educating them.
 * shoulder fireing a Barrett M82 while running,
 * one hand a sawed-off shotgun because he saw it in some movie,
 * that to fire a bolt-action rifle, he had to pull the bolt back, pull the casing out by hand, turn the bolt up, then down, and finally push the bolt back into place,
 * take a 7.62 shot to the shoulder and get up to fire a Browning M2 (because he saw it in Rambo,)
 * that if you're a normal soldier, you have the option to attach a sniper scope to your gun,
 * that Desert Eagles aren't very powerful,
 * that you can duel wield 2 Thompsons and not break your wrists,
 * and lastly, that the M1911 .45 was called the Colt .45.

Ashdude01

 * Me and my dad were once having a conversation about firearms and my dad said to me that the British army used AK-47s. I told him to look up the AK-47 on Wikipedia. He apologized. Shortly afterwards, he told me that the AK-47 was the first ever assault rifle.
 * My friend will once said to me "Did you know that the M1 Garand could only be reloaded after it had fired all eight shots?" This was when I didn't know much about firearms so I believed him at the time.
 * I was talking to my cousin at school and I said something about a tommy gun in WaW. He said that there is a Thompson in the game but no Tommy Gun. I kept arguing that they were both exactly the same gun. I managed to prove to him that they were both the same gun eventually.
 * I was watching a YouTube video. A guy was using an AA-12 loaded with a 20 or 32 round drum magazine. I started to read through the comments and I found all sorts of crap. eg. "I fired this gun on MW2" and "This isn't an AA-12. I should know because it is on cod 6" etc.
 * I was telling my friend about weapons in MW2 and he said that he had heard about the AA-12 (or the "automatic shotgun") and said that it probably wasn't a real gun. I then said to him, "no, it's real" and he replied with "Ok, whatever." He obviously didn't believe me.
 * This doesn't have much to do with ATEFI but on a Star Wars Battlefront 3 messsage board a guy posted some ideas for the game. One of his ideas was "they should have ACOGs for guns."
 * I was watching a video analysis of the new CoD: Black Ops reveal trailer and on the bit where the character used an M202 FLASH he wrote that it was an AT-4.
 * My friend will seems to think that everything in video games is true. For example, on Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots, your character can carry around a rail gun. The rail gun is classified as a sniper rifle in the game and my friend once told me that rail guns are actually sniper rifles and that they are always used on submarines *facepalm* All because it says so on a video game.

ConzoMc
In class one day my friend and I were reading and he was reading about the civil war and asked me "Is a musket the same as a Rifle" I replied "yes exept rifles hav.." just as the dumb ass who sits infront of me says "It's a pistol"

Common Thing People Say About General Things Involing the Military That Make Me Faceplam Youtube comment Flame about "Deagles" (This is the actual way he wrote)
 * The AA-12 dosen't have a Drum Magazine.
 * Harrier Jump-Jets really hover and kill soliders with their turrets
 * The Spetzsnaz (the Russian Special Forces) are a terrorist orginization.
 * The PTRS is German and it is a Sniper Rifle
 * The F2000, M82A1 and P90 don't exist and that Infinity Ward Stole the Ideas for the guns from Halo 3
 * Magnum Research Mark XIX Desert Eagle = Deagle

Noob: Man I Love the Deagle

Me: I bet you can't tell me who makes what you call a Deagle

Noob: Magnum

Me: and?

Noob: and what

Me: OMG!! Magnum Reserch AND Israeli Weapons Industries make the XIX Desert Eagle .44!!!

Noob: Now your going to convice me that you can't flip a "moodle 1887" to put a bullet in the barrel

Me: Well you could but you would break halve your fingers and It's spelled Model, dumbass

Youtube comment where in vid guy fails to no-scope:

This is why mw2 is so stupid.... I mean in real life a sniper bullet goes relatively straight but in here it comes out of your gun and says " Hmm i feel like taking an immediate left and hitting the wall next to you"

Once a news reporter said that a AK-47 was an Afghan weapon.

Jdcoolha

 * People thinking that Magnums are only a type of pistol (From using the weapons in WaW with the .357 Magnum, and Modern Warfare 2 with the .44 Magnum.) They are cartridges. (I know that there are pistols that have the name Magnum.)
 * Above. Just a side note, Musket and rifle are not the same. Civil war era Rifles (And todays firearms) have a spiral barrel, making them more accurate. Muskets don't have a spiraled barrel, making them cheaper and mostly standard at the time.
 * People who think there is only a Mini-uzi. There is an Uzi, a Mini-uzi, and a Micro-Uzi
 * My friend thinks that the soldier on the cover on WaW is holding a trench gun.
 * Same friend looked at the weapon he got in a random box in zombies and asked, "is that an AK-47?"
 * Sharky boi, just thought I'd point out that there is a chinese copy of the AK-47, the Type 56
 * This is a conversation between two guys on a youtube video of someone firing an AA-12 with Frag-12 ammo. Names will not be mentioned.

''Idiot: i hate the AA-12, but the Frag-12! That is﻿ pure awsomenes''

''Smart guy: HATE? Your comment doesnt make sense''

''Idiot: how? the AA-12 is stupid it ruins the name of the shotgun and its ugly. But the ammo is cool. What the **** don't you﻿ get''

''Smart guy: Errr its my fault for commenting. Obviously your like 12 yrs old and dont know **** about military technology. Even a dumbass could see the how such a radical weapon could be used to great effect on the battlefield. I know what you want and thats shoulder breaking recoil. Heavy recoil isnt﻿ a good thing mate.''

Idiot: this piece of garbage isn't a shot gun its a poser a shotgun is pump action that or a double barell is a﻿ true shotgun!

''Smart guy: Think of it as a multipurpose shotgun. The Benelli,﻿ Mossberg etc are your 'normal shotguns'''

Idiot: this gun proves﻿ that american are to lazy to pump the gun and keep pulling the trigger

Smart guy: lol

In review, Idiot thinks that the AA-12 shouldn't be considered a shotgun because it is full auto, and that shotguns are only shotguns if they are pump action or double barreled. Oh, and apparently Americans are lazy. *Groan*


 * This Pic

Salman44
I brought my M16A2 keychain to class once and my friend said this:

Him: Can I see your AK-47?

Me: It's an M16A2 not an AK-47.

Him: It's just the same.

Me: *Facepalm*

Him: What's the difference? They're both machine guns.

Me: *Facepalm*(again)

Me: They're assault rifles and a lot of things are different.

And the M1 Garand DOES make a ping sound.

Advancedwarfighter
1)Conversation between me and a friend:

Me: I bet you don't know the difference between a smoothbore barrel and a rifled barrel

Friend: Reduced load time

Me: No, you ****head

Friend: Different places to load

Me: I give up

Conversation ends

Me and another friend

2)Friend: FA- MAS sucks its burst fire only.

Me: No. they have a selector for auto too.

3)Me and my dad.

Me: I bet you can't do a double- tap

Dad: Thats when you shoot a grenade from the M203, right.

4)During a heated match in Crossfire

Me: Switch to the '203!

Friend: *switches to pistol*

Me: WTF are you doing?

Friend: Isn't the 203 a pistol?

My friend really believes an akimbo Glock 18 will kill an enemy at long range.

My friend thinks a 100 rnd mag is only for LMGs. He shut up about it when I showed him the Beta C mag on the Web

TMILLZ13
'Im 14, but am a military afficianado, skilled shooter and great skateboarder. i hate gun laws and people who are stupid towards guns. the whole clip-magazine bullet-round of ammunition thing. jeesus. here's some examples': also, whats with the fact you cant use a sniper rifles bipod. real snipers have to or they would break their arms(assuming that the user is shoulder firing an M82A1, or as a dumbass would say it: barretta 50cal.' man!)
 * Me and my freinds(who are total shitheads) were talking about MW2, and heres just a couple of ignorant remarks they make=
 * calling the model 1887's "models"
 * saying that the intervention is the worlds best sniper rifle just becuase they suck with the m82(in game)
 * calling the desert eagle the "deagle"
 * thinking that the army still uses a pair of 120 year old shotguns that would break your wrists when fired and thinking that its possible to twirl it to reload it without breaking your fingers
 * thinking that akimbo would be affective
 * believing that quick-scoping is the way real snipers snipe
 * that a round will exit a gun as a whole, cartridge and all
 * that a round will exit a gun funny when you don't look down your sights
 * and my biggest pet peeve, is when they think that you can actually(in the army) pick what kind of gun, camouflagege and that perks exist. you cant go cold blooded idiots.
 * this is an exaggeration, but they think that you can call in a nuke to settle a beef.
 * calling something "beast"(i just don't like the term, its just a bit weird to me)
 * that the military should use acr's and interventions. the remington acr is in fact used, just not that much as its still settling in as a military weapon. and the cheytac m2000 intervention is to expensive, as it needs special ammo and does not carry compatible parts with another weapon, like the barrett m82
 * that you can get shot in the head and get back up and fight(they think this because in one match we were playing, i shot jake in the head with my f2000. it did not kill him. he believes thats how it works in real life aswell)
 * that guns kill people. seriusly? I KILL PEOPLE
 * that an mp5k is more powerful than the kriss super-v just becuase of it in game. the mp5k is a 9.19mm and the kriss is .45acp. more stopping power for the kriss!
 * That The acr is ultra accurate and low recoil. while ill grant you the low recoil, it does have existing recoil. however, the acr isn't as accurate as portrayed in the game.
 * that quickscoping is an effective way to snipe

===  Griever0311   === Figured I'd finally contribute here: I hate seeing cases of firearms ignorance on the ATEFI userpage, such as people thinking:


 * an M107 would break the operator's arm if fired from the shoulder
 * that a shotgun would break the operator's wrist if fired with one hand
 * that Claymores actually have infrared laser-tripwire victim-actuated fuzes
 * that the M1 Garand doesn't make a "ping" sound when it pops a clip
 * that you can't mangle a helo with sustained gunfire
 * that you would break your wrists by firing an M1A1 Thompson in each hand
 * that you couldn't take 7.62x39mm round to the shoulder and keep fighting
 * that Harriers actually have a ventral/chin turret
 * that the XM8 is used in *ANY* capacity by our military
 * that think assault rifles are machine guns, because they use a "machine", lol, they're not
 * that think FMJ rounds were created so that pistols and other small weapons could hit targets through cover, lol

Just a few.

Win ^

Fall 50 cal
I have a very dumb friend at school who thinks that he knows all about guns because his grandpa was in the army 70 years ago and he plays MW2 24/7.

Some of his dumb things he says:

All modell 1887's have pistol grips

we still today use model 1887

akimbo desert eagles are easy to shoot akimbo

a solder can call in tactical nukes any time he wants

M16 are the best guns in the world because it has good damage in the game

that if you git hit by a 50 BMG. you will " regenrate "

that there are real juggernauts in wars

that ac-130 are controlled by a laptop

you can survive 10 packs of c4 with a riot shield in real life

that a .22 rifle has a lot of recoil (I have shot one and has hardly any)

that you can easily kill someone when hip firing the Barrett 50 cal.

Another one:

GF and I are playing World at War Nazi Zombies

Girl Friend: O.K., i'm going to buy a trench gun. ( Buys a Trench Gun )

Me: you knew what is was called?

Girl Friend: yea, just because i'm a girl doesen't mean I don't know anything about guns.

Me: you are smart

Girl Friend: I learned from the best, you.

Griel Friends brother walks down and see's me holding a B.A.R.

GF Brother: Cool M16!


 * FacePalm* -_-

Fall 50 cal. Talk?. 23:15, September 30, 2010 (UTC)

Slowrider7 (2)
I was just watching the news, and the reporter said:

"The victim was shot with a Semi-Automatic M16 machine gun."

No comment.

Rampantlion513
Ok, so this kid at my school says all M16s are fully automatic weapons because all he plays is COD 4 for DS, in which case the M16 is fully auto.

He also says:Crap my clip is out of cartiges.

Me: Dude,its a magizine,or,for dumb people like you,a mag

Him: Ok then my MAG is out of cartiges.

Me: There rounds dumbo

Him:What are rounds?

Me:well,to dumb it down it means ammo.

Him:But I thought rounds were things in fights

Me:they are

Him: then they can't be ammo clips.

Me. OH MY GOD DUMBO DID YOU EVEN HERE ME.....

Anywhy I better stop there....

Also

Friend:chick chick

Me: is that the sound all shotguns make

Him:Yes.

Me:Um, no

Him:So. Hey have you heard about that new gun, the M16

Me:yea.Hey! is it an Mg or not

Him:Yes

Me:no

Him:Yea, the M16 shotgun

Me:*Facepalm*

Also I was talking to this dumbo who though LMG stood for Large magizine Gun.Really?He got this from 100 rounds per Magizine.

Also we have probs with COD. On WaW the box magizine for the Type 100 is called an Extended CLIP .Really,Treyarch?

Also, this is from the Black Ops Archive 7 page:

Isn't it an LMG, not an AR? F Brushfire 15:09, May 20, 2010 (UTC)

He/She is talking about an AUG, which is an Asualt Rifle. HBAR means Heavy Barreled Asualt Rifle

Wolf merc
I get really tired of people thinking a light and medium machine gun is called that based on its weight, not on the caliber of the bullet. Example: Some dude asks; "If the RPD is a light machine gun, why do you move so slow with it?" Also, people still think C-4 explodes if you shoot at it. C-4 is molded plastic explosive, which can only be set off electronically, and is designed to be shock- proof.

Dbx25
1:I was playing solo campaign, when my friend was over.

She said

Hey that chopper shoots out a shotgun!

ME:No it shoots out missles and a minigun.

Friend:What's a minigun? is it a sniper rifle?

Me: * FACEPALM *

ME:NO! IT. IS. A. HEAVY. MACHINE. GUN1!1!!!!!1111!!!

Friend: GAs powered?

Me: ... NO. ELECTRIC.

Friend:Okay, I guess youre right...

ME:FINALLY!1!1!1!!

2:I was on XBox live playing a playing a search match so it was only me and one guy.

Guy:I'm gonna put a rifle grenade on my airsoft pistol!

Me:You cant do that.

Guy:Yes you can!

Me:No you cant, you should REALLY shut up right now

Guy:*Quits game*

Me: Thinking:Yeah, go ahead and run...

I'm starting to think he was crying, i joined his party and heard him in a sad voice.

He deserved that.

That was a little mean :( 01:07, October 25, 2010 (UTC)

(Fun fact: Put tape on a pencil and then stick it on your airsoft kiddies, and have yourself a fake rifle grenade!)

Id rather get a real one off Atlantic firearms 17:39, June 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sgt.Safe-Sex
Me and my friend were sitting on the bus and we were talking about Russians. And he said (in a horrible Russian accent) "I'll shoot you with my AK, no actually i'll shoot you with my Tommy Gun." To which I replied "You mean a Thompson?" "No, a Tommy." "Oh my God! It's called a Thompson. And Russia has never used one! You may be thinking of the PPsH-41 but it is definetly not a 'Tommy Gun'."

Cpt. Riley
People think that radar is a UAV (Infinity Wards fault), the UAV is the plane that sends out the signals.

That the M1897 is the real name, but the real name is Mossenburg Model 1897

That the R700 is the real name, but the real name is Remington 700.

Urm, Riley, the M1897 is actually called like that, and it's not a "Mossenburg" WTF? and it's a Winchester, Gloryman3, 14:18 UTC, April 25th, 2011.

oosulley
Was at castle in Barcelona (school trip) when some idiot goes (looking at a vintage 1898 cannon)

Him: Are they Anti-Aircraft guns??

Me: Just Leave.Seriously.GO.

A book i read declared RPG stood for Rapid Propeller Grenade.

Seriouly,HOW the fuck did they get that wrong???the RPG is everywhere these days......

Another book declared that the Springfield(M1903) was Semi-Automatic.I wouldnt have minded,except the book was called "Weapons of World War 2".....

Supersniper
Nearly everyone that I know except for one guy is so stupid about weapons that I have to dumb down everything that I say tto get them to understand me.

Also, to dispell a few myths, you can fire any weapon in world one handed, on most the recoil would break your wrists or the backblast would cook you head, but you could. Another that I'd seen earlier was that Full Metal Jacket bullet is designed for pistols, it's acually standard issue on most firearms now.

MicroBullet
I was at school and we were shown this short video of two weird characters killing each other, one of the characters shot the other with an UZI and when the video finished a person said,

"Oh I love how he shot him with an SMG" so out of interest I asked him what he thought it meant and he said,

"Ahhhh.... Silent Machine Gun."



Sgt. S.S.
But this one truly takes the biscuit:
 * I was watching a vid on YouTube showing a guy firing a Glock 18 (in real life), and some of the comments I saw:
 * 1) what a noob hes﻿ holding r1 like a spraying n00b!
 * 2) don't forget steady aim pro
 * 3) This gun sucks it has too much recoil im 10th prestige on MW2 so I should know.

4. If I﻿ fired that at someone would it kill them? Me: Don't you think the TMP is cool? (I'm talking about in MW2)
 * My dad thinks that the Desert Eagle is a revolver.
 * I was once talking to a guy at school:

Him: Yeah, too bad it doesn't exist in real life.

Me: Uh, yes, actually, it does.

Him: Oh, I knew that, just testing you.

Me: Alright, smart guy. What does TMP stand for?

Him: Uhhh... Top Machine Pistol.

(I utter a loud, sarcastic laugh and walk away.) Actually, the worst case of all is PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT GUNS ARE THE EXACT SAME AS IN COD!!! Like this: "dude i rape with that gun﻿ with akimbo" (D'oh...)
 * And don't even get me started on the whole "magazine = clip" thing.
 * I was reading a book by Chris Ryan, and he kept calling the MP5 a machine gun. (!)
 * You could dual-wield two 120-year-old lever-action shotguns and still be accurate.
 * UMPs can shoot as far as in CoD.
 * Desert Eagles are standard issue in the U.S. military.
 * YouTube comments on that same Glock 18 vid mentioned above:

"Just slap﻿ on steady aim and a red dot and you can hit anything." (Right, and Steady Aim exists in reality, does it?)

"I hate when people that don't play Call of Duty, think they know a lot about guns because they actually use guns." (Exactly, THEY ACTUALLY USE GUNS. Therefore, they know a helluva lot more abot them than you would.)

"G18 NOOB!!!" (...)

And, finally, there's the worst of 'em all...

"wow dey stol dis frum mw2. dey aint evn doin it rite. u got 2 hold it with won hand and﻿ it only has 1 coler. itz suposd 2 b green nd black. itz prly a knockoff of da g18 nsted of an real 1. da rme needs 2 stp steelin things frum cod." (Seriously, just throw yourself off a bridge, give the rest of us a break.)


 * Another YouTube vid of Second Sun, so many damn people were convinced that Price fired some sort of "EMP missile", paying no heed to the fact that the energy yield from a nuke produces a small-ish EMP.
 * A story of my own ignorance: when I was about thirteen, I got Quantum of Solace for my PS3. The game features the Steyr AUG (called the A3 Raker in-game). When I first saw it, because of the scope on it, I thought it was some kind of automatic sniper rifle. Ah, the folly of the youth! xD
 * Guy I know thought the KS-23 was American (nope, Russian).
 * Another guy keeps calling the AUG the "awg". I admit that I call it that myself, but I use it as a sort of nickname.

Mr Winner Guy
This happened when i was playin cod 4 at at my friends house.

Buds sister: is that a Shotgun?

Me: No it a Ak-47.

WhyToasties1337
I've seen plenty of ignorances even inside here: Plus, not all American weapons are better than foreign, I'll obviously prefer a good ol' G3A4, rather than an M1 Garand, but, I still love American weapons.
 * The M14 would have kept Ivan out of Korea (Impossible, the M1 Garand kept the Zippyheads out of Korea, Ivan is Russian, the ceasefire was signed in July 17th,1953, while the M14 was built in 1957)
 * Your .223 BB gun (the M16 didn't lose 3 wars, nor it uses the .223, it lost together the M14)
 * The M1 Garand doesn't have the little bell on the mechanism

Your groingo terms you use: Kraut, Jap, Red, just shut the fuck up, or we the krauts will call you gringos. (Yus, I'm Germanic-Latino)

Jarhead68

 * Any one ever notice how when news channels decribe weapons, they procede to name everything an assault rifle.
 * Converstion/ Friend: I made a hipshot with my airsoft gun and hit a bird that was flying 50 yards away. Me: Yeah, and I slept with Megan Fox.

Negative Axle

 * "Dude, I like fucking put 25 AK shots into him!" *sigh*

LTC Baik
I have to admit, I was very firearm ignorant a long time ago, but I'm not now. Here's one of my stupid moments.

Friend: Yeah, it's a SMG. You do know what an SMG is, right?

Me: Um... small machine gun?

Friend: *facepalm* It's a submachine gun!

Me: Oh, I forgot.

Friend: *facepalm*

But I got him back recently.

Me: Do you know what the fastest firing single-barreled weapon is?

Friend: The MG42.

Me: Right.

Friend: And it's also in Modern Warfare 2.

Me: WHAT?!?! No, it isn't!

Friend: Yeah, it is.

Me: *facepalm* No, it isn't.

Friend: You're wrong.

Me: Look it up on the Internet!

Friend: Fine then. *searches Modern Warfare 2 weapons* This is the official weapons page of Modern Warfare 2. See, there's the... oops. It's an MG4.

Me: *facepalm* I told you!

Friend: No one f***ing cares.

Me: I do.

Cpl. Ross
MAGAZINE=CLIP!!!! (it doesn't)

Annoying friend who claims to know everything about guns

him: dude, I just unlocked the vector! (I had not played MW2 at the time)

me: the what?

him: the vector! That SMG?

me: If u r so smart, what's an smg?

him: SAS's machine gun

me: *laughs*

him: The vector is that SMG that is really small and fires insanely fast

me: You mean the KRISS super v?

him: no, its the vector, CoD does everything right!

I show him a military channel show (top ten CQB weapons)

him: Whatever, it's still the vector. But I still cant wait to unlock the AUG HBAR at 32.

me: u mean the Steyr AUG? That assault rifle is cool!

him: dude it is a LMG

me: what's an LMG?

him: large machine gun

me: *laughs* its an assault rifle!

him: it has lots of bullets and the clip (WTF) isnt in front of the trigger

me: that means it is bullpup

him: WTF

me: the MAGAZINE, not clip, is behind the trigger. That means it is bullpup

there was much more to this, I rarely talk to him now

Bzzzzt! The AUG HBAR is a machine gun, the AUG A1, AUG A2, AUG A3, etc, except the AUG HBAR, AUG LSW and AUG 9mm are assault rifles. The TDI KRISS Super V is in fact called Vector Gloryman3. 14:23 UTC, April 25th, 2011.

I was looking up the best guns for zombies (that aren't called Ray Guns) So I end up on "hubpages.com", this is what they say about CZ75 Dual Wield:

CZ75 Dual Wield - These pistols are very powerful. They can take out zombies in a couple shots, and you can shoot with one at a time while reloading the other. This is NOT the pistol you start out with. These are pistols that have a much higher caliber. When upgraded, these shoot colored bullets which do even more damage. This can only be found in random magic box

Upgraded Name: Calamity

Let's count the errors: 4 CoD errors, one error for just being an idiot "colored bullets", and ONE BIG CASE OF FIREARM IGNORANCE "Higher Caliber...".

EDIT: Seljana just had to comment that is obviously an airsoft or BB gun or its just plain fake no shells+no muzzle flash+no silencer for the no muzzle flash=big fat phony

Skulldragon_GC.
Before I say anything more I would like to point out that the things I will list that my friends have said do NOT reflect them in general


 * I was once asked how much extra damage Stopping Power does. Having used this wiki, I was able to tell them. Having heard this, another friend asks me 'what about in real-life?'.
 * One of my friends once seriously suggested that Flamethrowers could be turned into long range precision weapons by making the barrel incredibly long and adding a high-magnification scope.

BravoAlphaSix

 * Knowing that a pistol does not come out of a barrel (The annoying girl in my class thinks that it does)
 * My friend thinks that a 45.ACP is stronger than a 5.56 NATO round because 45 is a larger number than 5.56 so when I correct him he flips out
 * You can't really noscope or do a 360 shot with a CheyTac Intervention, because its 17+ pounds.
 * My friends think Stopping Power is real while I keep saying its just a game perk.
 * FMJ does not really increase penetration.
 * My friends think OMA is real and that they can destroy the whole Taliban with one.

Darkraider09
Not about fire-arm ignorance but its on a related matter.

Once I was watching Transformers 2 with one of my friends everytime a helicopter came on-screen he said "Oooh, Pavelow" everytime a plane came on-screen he whispered "AC-130U!" I just gave up trying to correct him.

Sgt.Saber
My Friend (while playing with me on MW2): Your using the RPD now? I though you hated HMGs

Me: The RPD is an LMG

My Friend: But its so big! How is it a LMG.

Me: You know what an LMG is, right.

My Friend: Yeah, little machine gun, like an M16. And HMG stands for huge machine gun, like the RPD.

Me: *facepalm*

Seijana
I personally cannot stand idiots who think that the Spetsnaz GRU are a terrorist organisation either, I would gladly be surrounded by the most unbelivable levels of gun ignorance if it meant people didn't persist in beliving this crap about the Russians.

Also, a lot of people here seem to think that a lot of duel-wielding of many firearms is physically impossible. I myself haven't actually fired a gun so I'm not saying anything, but what do you guys make of this?

EDIT: Oh yeah, you don't see the cartridges. I wonder how I missed that, meh.

PS: Sorry, whats a 50 BMG?

Price25
Seijana, That video is fake. You don't see the empty cartriges come out of the gun. And BMG means Browning Machine Gun. I heard from Griever you can dual wield 2 SMGs, but don't expect to hit shit. Examples of ingnorance:

I was having a discusion with my pal about miniguns, and we were discussing the Rate of Fire, then this girl happens to overhear us and says A Minigun? I would love to have one! then she makes a "Gun" with her index finger and thumb, puts the 'gun' to her eye, and says pew...pew..pew......pew my friend and I start laughing so hard we fall out of our chairs. I show her a picture of a minigun a few days later and tell her the rate of fire. then she takes six fingers and goes pewpewpewpewpewpewpewpewpew. I spent the next hour Laughing. Most of my friends can't tell a AK-47 from a M16A4, but there are a few exceptions like the friend mentioned above, those who play CoD (suprised?) cause they don't believe the BS Infinity Ward or Treyarch puts in the game, and they know stuff, those who play FPS games, and a guy who likes WW2 and historic wars.

TheManOfIron
Today, July 23, 2010, I contemplated the future of this human race. This is not exactly in order, but you get the point. This occurred on Modern Warfare 2.

This is how the conversation went, all from about 1-2 games. The argument continued until I logged off

Person : I am a redneck, so I know everything about guns. You live in New York (I told him.) so you know nothin'. You can't even own a gun in New york.

Me : /facepalm... That is the single worst statement I have ever heard..

Person : I know so much about guns. I am 12, and I was born with a gun!

Me : O.K...

Person : I know so much more about guns than you.

Me : OK, how old were you when you first shot a gun?

Person : 3.

Me : Whereabouts do you live.

Person : Arkansas.

M : I now very little about guns laws in Arkansas, so ---

P : Arkansas is in New York, idiot.

M : Long silence.

M : If you think you know so much about Guns, why and when was the AK-47 made?

P : It was made cuz the Russians needed more firepower in the Cold War, and they stopped using MP5s (My Mind : No fighting was done. Idiot xD)

M : The MP5 is German, asshole.

P : It is Russian idiot.

M : /facepalms hard. Wow... So who made it?

P : The Russians cuz they needed more firepower and it was cheap.

M : IN-FUCKING-CORRECT! It was made, because shortly after the second world war, the Russians were slowly phasing out of the use of Submachine guns, and needed an Assault Rifle.

P : Yeah, cuz the americans had more firepower while they were training the Iraqis to fight the Russians. (My mind : O.o This kid is an idiot.)

M : No, the Iraqis had nothing to do with the Cold War.

P : Yuhhuh.

M : Your argument is invalid. (Game ended)

M : I hope you get smart about guns someday. Bye bye. (Left)

I was fucking pissed. He was claiming because I had never shot a gun, but I had shot a 50 caliber rifle, and a .22 over 100 rounds down that range. All in epic grouping. BUT WAIT, THERES MORE! For reading this far, you get a deleted scene he said showing his idiocy about Shotguns!

Me : ...Yeah the AA-12 is bullshit. In reality it can shoot real far.

P : No, if you get to far away, then the pellets bounce off.

M : /shakes head wildly while facepalming NOT TRUE NOT TRUE NOT TRUE! That is a bullshit story, that would never happen.

P : It did mah whole family seen it.

P : An old man did

M : Why would some asshole shoot an old man?!

P : The old man shot it.

M : That is untrue, the pellets wouldn't bounce.

P : Yeah he was target shooting.

M : That is why! A target shooting round contains much less gunpowder than an actual shell they would use in combat.

P : Nah, they were normal pellets bought at WalMart.

M : Discussion with story about WalMart greeter. (See below)

P : You can't buy a fucking shotgun at walmart idiot.

M : Yes you can, depending on where you live. Besides, they wouldn't have it open for children. DUH!

Discussion ova.

'''BUT WAIT! CALL NOW, AND YOU GET AN EXTRA STORY!'''

My instructor at the rifle range while at Boy Scout Camp told us about a WalMart greeter. The man in the sports section who was going to sell them the shotgun called in sick, and a walmart greeter was put there. When they walked in and asked for the shotgun, the walmart greeter then took it carefully out of the case and... pointed it at the buyers. Story over. xD

.

Smish34
im playing MW2 the other day and some kid, obviously isnt old enough to actually buy the game, says, "The ACR, and AK47 are the best guns ever [in real life] because he has a bunch of titles.

In school, a few years ago (close to the time of CoD4's release) i drew a a Browning 50. Calibre Heavy MG and some kid came over to me and said

"Whats that?"


 * "A 50. cal MG"

"Thats not a 50. cal, the 50. cal is a sniper"

People who think the 'Barrett 50. Cal" is the real name for the gun. and all snipers are the M82 if they have the huge "Box-like" muzzel

The 'Deagle' term comes from CoD.

Russians WILL invade, because they are Bad

If you join the army, you get no training, but given a Barrett instantly and a ghillie suit and they let you hunt gown Osama Bin Laden

When people, in film, games and real life call magazines clips.

A_Lonely_Nomad
It seems that I am prone to firearm ignorance, please correct me where I make mistakes.

Me and my friend were watching future weapons.

Friend: Is that a FAL?

Me: No, its a cheytech m200 sniper rifle -__-

1/12/10 - Today, while talking a classmate about firearms, he said that the F2000, SCAR-L, M4A1, ACR, Famas and M240 could all use the same ammo. I gave him a cookie.

Dragstang
I'm tired of seeing examples of ignorance on this page. Heres some examples:

People thinking that the Vector isn't called the vector. If thats the case then explain why its called the "KRISS Vector SMG" on the TDI products page? KRISS is the name of the system used in the SMG to reduce recoil.

Heres the product page: http://www.kriss-tdi.com/products.html

Also, the Aug HBAR is in fact, a light support weapon. The steyr Aug is an assault rifle, but the Aug HBAR is a varient of the Aug. (Just like the M14EBR is a varrient of the M14) The HBAR mean heavy barreled automatic rifle which means its a longer heavier-barreled version for use as a light machine gun.

Shoulder firing the Barret M107 wouldn't break your arm, but it would be highly inaccurate, ive fired guns before, and even the lightest of guns would sway alittle bit without a stable platform to fire from. Seeing as the M107 weighs 28 pounds unloaded, it would be very hard to steady it enough for an accurate shot without a platform.

Samiam22
Saw someone in this group who thought the Desert Eagle was the most powerful handgun in the world. *tut tut tut* WhyToasties here: You ain't much of a movie guy, are you? Not WhyToasties anymore: I thought that you would be able to distinguish between movies and real life. By the way, the most powerful handgun is the world is most likely a very obscure Austrain revolver named the Pfeifer Zeliska .600 Nitro Express, although the revolver itself costs over $16,000 and each cartridge about $40.

WhyToastes: And, yes, I like movies and can differ between real-life and movies, plus, there are plenty of 12.7mm revolvers, Sammy, I've heard about the Pfeifer Zeliska, why don't you stop making train noises and learn how Pfeifer Zeliska is pronounced, since you ain't a Kraut.

Samiam22: Making train noises? What the fuck?

Spaceblast: Interesting, however the Pfeifer Zeliska isn't the most powerful, it is some gun using the .700 NE cartridge designed in the 1980's, unless they soon come out with .800 NE or whatsoever

A different encounter on YouTube involving me arguing with some idiot who thought that the M1911 was more powerful than the .357 revolver.

Things he said;


 * The .45 ACP round is bigger than the .357 Magnum. The .357 Magnum is about 0.30 cm longer.


 * The .45 ACP round flies faster than the .357 Magnum. The .357 Magnum travels at around 450 m/s, the .45 ACP flies at about 320 m/s.


 * The .45 ACP has more energy. The .357 Magnum has around 900 J, the .45 ACP has around 500 J.


 * The .45 ACP is more lethal. While this is true, the .357 Magnum would have (probably) been able to go through a helmet while the .45 ACP wouldn't have. Also, bulletproof vests of around that time, the .45 ACP would have barely pierced it (travelling faster than 1000 ft/s), the .357 Magnum would have gone right through (travelling faster than 1600 ft/s)

Also, I hate people who think the Glock 18 is practical in real life. That thing has recoil like a son of a bitch. People underestimate the recoil of a 9mm. A gun firing 9mms at a rate of 1100 RPM would fly about all over the place.

FinalHero13
1: I was playing Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 1 with my friend on Xbox Live about a week ago. This is how it went.

Friend: Hey, can you kill yourself so I get your G-Deagle?

Me:G-Deagle? What the hell is that.

Friend: Golden Derset Eagle...

Me: It's not a "G-Deagle" say it how you said the last time and no I won't down myself it'll ruin my K:D Ratio which is almost 1.00

At that time another friend joined and heard the whole thing.

Friend 2: What the hell you won't down yourself cause of you K:D ratio and then you get pissed at him for calling the Deagle by its short name.

Me: What both of it isn't right.

Friend 2: Now you're going to say I say the Gewher and UMP the wrong way...just like the Deagle.

Me: I wasn't going to but you call both of them wrong and screw both of you I'll go play Froza...

2-NOTE: This really isn't anthing bout guns but it still shows how stupid the guy who said The Desret Eagle is Deage and says the Gewher and UMP wrong is stupid lol that was confusing.

Me: So I think in Black Ops, a SOG or SOC whatever their called will replace the Marine in Nazi Zombies. The Spetnaz will replace the Russia Officer. The Vietcong will replace the Japenese officer. I don't know what will replace the German in the new Nazi Zombies.

Idiot- I think the British will replace the Russians cause they are the badguys.

Me: But the Germans and Japs were the badguys and they were in Nazi Zombies.

Idiot: Still your point is.

Me: The Russians will return and how the hell did you the the British.

Idiot: You said the Japs were bad guys because they followed the Nazis and looked up to Hilter and hated Japan so at the end of the war they turned good and that's why their in Nazi Zombies.

Me: Um no I never did. Notice how 1940s Germany was called NAZI Germany and Japan was called IMPERIAL Japan.

Idiot: You said so yourself. When Shi Nu Numa came out you said the Japs were Nazis.

Me: No most Japs gave their lives for Japan which was NAZI FREE. I said Japs will be in Nazi Zombies. It was your dumbass friend and yourself that said that. I'm suprised you're a straight A student you emo kid.

That ended it all right there.

BengalMan81
-NOTE- I am not a member of the ATEFI anymore. I didn't see the point much. Thanks for stopping by, though. BengalMan81 02:04, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, they're humans, you have also made mistakes, Haven't you? Spaceblast, 12:42 UTC February 28th, 2011

Wolverines!
Some stuff, said by people, claiming that they ARE the most-knowing about weapons on the planet:
 * The PRTS-41 was a Standard-Issue Sniper Rifle during WWII (it wasn't even a sniper-rifle... LOL)
 * The FAL is a modern gun from the 21st Century.
 * In reality, ALL SAS Operatives CAN throw a Knife at a special angle, so that it ricochets 1000 times and hits someone 1 kilometer away.
 * The SCAR is an American gun (nope, it's Belgian) and has replaced the M16 and M4A1.
 * All M16s are the same, but have different handguards (Duh!).
 * Real Soldiers with High Ranks would USE Blue and Red Tiger Camo.
 * All Real Snipers can run with the "Barreta (HaHa, that's a joke right?)" 50. Cal at VERY LONG distances.
 * Red Dot and Holographic Sights DON'T exist in real-life.
 * The Russian Army uses outdated technology, and that's why 2 men can take down an entire base.........
 * The SPAS-12 is a Russian Shotgun.
 * The W1200 is in use by the USMC.
 * The G3 is an older version of the FAL, and that's why it isn't in MW2.
 * In real life, ever if you're not Arnold, you can have a weapon in each of your hand, no matter what it is.
 * The Walther WA2000 is a Russian Rifle.
 * Police Riot Control units always have MP5Ks equipped.

==

MajorWood

 * I was once watching Future Weapons when Richard Machowicz (the host) said that the USS Cole was a battleship! But it gets worse: he says that he served in the Navy SEALs for 10 years! So lets do the math: in order to be eligible to join the SEALs you must serve in the navy for at least 6 years, so that means he has served in the navy for at least 16 years!
 * also on Future Weapons, Richard was talking about all of these problems with the M249 SAW and why the LWRC IAR is better than it. I understood some of his points, like the open bolt design allowing debris into the chamber and the fact that the SAW is pretty big and attracts a lot of attention, but I was angered when he was talking about how you would have to fumble with the ammo belt to insert it and if you stepped on the belt while moving it would break and how the IAR was better because it used magazines. For your information, the M249 can also use STANAG magazines and you could use a carrying container to prevent the belt from breaking. Finally, it is easier to lay down suppressive fire, which the M249 was meant to do, with a belt because you don't have to reload as often and a belt has a higher feed rate than a magazine.


 * I would just like to point out that there is a light support weapon known as a MAG and that the MAG 58 appears in Call of Duty 6.
 * Once at school I was talking to my friends about the .57 and the class idiot came up and asked me if what I was talking about was like an arrow. We laughed so hard after he asked that.
 * Once I was drawing pictures of guns at school and two of my classmates came up to me and said "nice P90". I drew a FAMAS.
 * Also in school one of my classmates took a meter stick and started to pretend to pull the trigger and pump the weapon. Out of curiosity I asked him what weapon he was trying to pretending to fire and he said "50 cal". I was amazed at how stupid he was when he said that.
 * in french class, our teacher was talking about the bomb threats in France and how the army is guarding all these tourist attractions with submachine guns. I then told him that the soldiers are carrying assault rifles, specifically the 'Fusil d'Assaut de la Manufacture d'Armes de Saint-Étienne'. he then questioned me why I care so much about "identifying guns".

Gamemasta424
Things my cousin thinks:

AK-47 = Awesome Killer 47

Clip = Magazine

(Extra: I tried to ask "What is a bullpup gun?" and after I said "is" he interupted by saying "My favorite song is Tik Tok!" Lol.)

Bullpup = A gun with explosive rounds.

Caliber = Big gun

Riot Shields can protect from any bullet

Shotgun Bullets just "die out" after 500 feet

Pat5556
In an official Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 Strategy guide, the writer says the FAMAS is pump-action.

My dad once complained about me using a sniper rifle too much on split-screen MW2. I was using the Mini-Uzi.

Same strategy guide says the Model 1887 is bolt action, instead of lever action.

I once heard a kid saying that supressors don't exist because he thinks the bullet would blow it apart when fired.

Sooooo many people on Black Ops seem to think that the SVD (Dragunov for those it concerns) is bolt-action in real life. I have no idea how they think this...

Quite a few people seem to believe:

Bolt Action = single shot

Single shot = semi-automatic

Semi-auto = 3-round burst

Also, I see pretty much everyone use "gun" and "rifle" interchangably. It boggles the mind.

Chuckleluck

 * My friend constantly plays Call of Duty: World at War. I asked him, "Can you name 5 guns from WWII that

aren't in World at War?" He replied, "Grease gun, DP-28, AK-47, Webley and SCAR." I told him that the

AK-47 and SCAR weren't in WWII, and the DP-28 is in World at War. His reply? "It's not in the campaign."

Other things I hate:
 * People calling the Barrett M82 the "Barrett .50cal".
 * Snobs that correct people saying, "It's not the Vector, its the Kriss SuperV." It's the TDI Vector, the Kriss


 * SuperV being a part used in the gun.
 * People who think someone who plays Call of Duty has no knowledge of guns whatsoever.
 * Calling the Winchester M1897 shotgun simply the "Trenchgun".

Sniperteam82308
--Wait a second.....um....the AK-series is actually used in modern combat....from the AKM to the AK74M to the AK74U to the AK-103, etc.....i hope you made a typo, cuz the AK series are definitely used in modern combat Tagg3r 00:00, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * People constantly believing pistols are underpowered in real life just because of games like call of duty.
 * People not realizing that there the Ak series weapons aren't used in Modern combat.

...Not to mention the AK-74M, the Russian Standard issue rifle.... SpaceBlast 22:32, February 6th, 2011 (UTC)
 * ,People claiming to say they are excellent shots with the sniper when in reality they are worse than my younger brother.
 * People that think the only Ak-series weapons are the Ak-47 and 74 when in reality Russia's in production of the series 200.
 * Five year olds that play and complain about hacking because someone has skill.
 * Five year olds that throw temper tantrums in stores until they get a rated M game that their older neighbor has(yes its happened to me at Gamestop)
 * Oh my god that happened to me when I got Black Ops my eight year old neighbor cried for five days straight until his mom bought it for him. 08:26, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Dempsy115
Random comment on youtube...

the bullet is attached to a thing called a shell, the shell comes out because the bullet is fired out and the gun pulls back to eject the shell, because the shell doesnt shoot, so if u just cock it without shooting it, the shell wont seperate﻿ from the bullet and the whole thing with just come out of the gun, does that make sense?

Yes it is right, but it sounds stupid.

My friend on MW2: I put a silencer on my Barret 50.cal. Sigh

Trayvin
Note: I think I have the longest "Hate" list.
 * I hate people who think the Predator Missle 'spawns' out of the sky.
 * I hate people who call the Cheytac Intervention "invy", "Inter" or even ".50 cal killer"
 * I hate people who say the Mk 2 grenade is a " Pineapple beast"
 * I hate when someone says the Model 1887 is widely, I mean widely used by both sides of the war
 * I hate people who say a G11 is a pistol
 * I hate people who say you can live while your shot in the head with a Barret .50 Cal.
 * I hate people who say the Panzerfaust is supposed to be used over again
 * I hate people who under estimate the power of a pistol
 * I hate people who say the M240 is a heavy machine gun (weighs alot,not the meaning of alot of rounds)
 * I hate people who say the Walther Company makes just pistols.
 * I hate people who complain about they're guns being 'overpowered' when they have stopping power pro.
 * I hate people who say the DP-28 means "Deadly Pancake", "UFO gun","Deadly Power 28" or " Death Punch 28"
 * I hate people who say the Kar-98K was only used by German Forces
 * I hate people who think the Bolt-Action are only sniper rifles.
 * I hate when someone prefers the Crossbow as a "C-Bow"
 * I hate people who think 'no-scoping' will decrease your round's range. (In real-life)
 * I hate people who say the M1A1 Thompson SMG is non-American.
 * I hate when someone 3-round burst guns are only burst guns in real life.
 * I hate people who say a sniper gets at a location, sets up in a hour, and shoots, when it takes days or a day to get ready.
 * I hate people to whine about recoil, Just fire in bursts, it's that simple.
 * I hate people who thinks Predator Drones or UAV's are only to detect enemy movement.
 * I hate people who thinks the Intervention is an innaccurate gun, as it holds the world record FOR ACCURACY.
 * I hate when who refers the AK designs as "Accurate Killer" or something fake, as it stands for Automatic Kalashikov


 * BZZZZT!!!! It actually stands for Avotomat Kalashnikova, the name of the company that produced them. Strikerdelta 05:57, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * BZZZZT!!!! It stands Avtomat stands for autmatic wich is firing mode and Kalashnikov is the last name of the inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov Mortyofdeath 19:11 April 26 2010 (UTC)
 * I hate people who think Chernobyl's nucleur disaster happened all at once.
 * I hate people who says the MP-44 is not an Assault Rifle
 * I hate people who say every stealth mission has a silenced gun(You may think so, but they don't, they can use knives only, as your weapon jams before battle, and they're pistol is rusted with dirt and grime, As some people use sniper rifles on stealth missions, then just use a Machine Gun to finish the job)
 * I hate people who say Kamikazes did not happen.

The mercenary
Once when our parents were out my little brother invited our next door neighbour over (they're both about 11) and while chilling we just got on the topic of military and stuff. This is just an example of the trash that came out of their mouth:

Neighbour: british soldiers use the Ak-47 and RPG 7

Me: No, they use SA80's, you know like the L85 and L86

Neighbour: No they don't

Me: yes they do

Neighbour: then how come ive never heard of the SA80

(I bring up a picture of a royal marine with an L85A2 on my laptop)

Me: does that look like an AK-47?

Neighbour: yeah, they're basically the same thing

Brother: But all armies use the RPG because it has the most powerful shell

Me: dude, the RPG fires grenades

Brother: (Looks at me blankly) no it doesnt

Me: yeah, the 50. calibre is the most powerful shell

Neighbour: The 50 cal is a sniper, idiot

Me: What sniper is it?

Neighbour: the Barrett 50.cal, I saw it on COD

Me: Its called the Barrett M82A1 and 50 cal is the type of ammo it fires

Neighbour: I think call of duty knows more about guns than you

After that I threw them both out of the house

Blobfish
My stepdad called an M16 a machine gun.

A guy i know called a Thompson a machine gun.

Me and a bunch of guys in math were talking about guns. One of them said for AK47 the AK stood as awesome or automatic killer. Then they said the 47 was the address where its built. I told them AK was ''Avtomat Kalashnikova and 47 was year when its built. I soon walked out of the group.''

Friend thought MP40 wasnt used in WW2

Same friend always calls Desert Eagle Deagles and I facepalm

Another friend thought M82 didnt exist

CoD has wrong info on guns like M240 having 5.56mm damage when it uses 7.62mm rounds and SANTAG combatable guns have diffrent damage(ex. M16 has more damage than M4A1 in MW2)

That's for balance purposes. Samiam22 05:07, October 5, 2010 (UTC)

STANAG not SANTAG Griffon26GRIFFON26 OMFG 00:40, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Also, think about the barrel length: M16: usually 20" M4A1: 14.5 or 10.5 in the CQBR Model | Cpl.   Ross |  18:40, December 19, 2010 (UTC)

Flak88
Was rather embarrassed for myself and everyone else of a certain age that went up to an Australian Defense Force recruitment stand at an employment expo to touch the guns they had on show. Unfortunately I was among the many who called the under-slung grenade launcher on the F88 Austeyr a noob tube in front of the soldiers and wondered why they were using a Swarovshi Scope rather then a holographic sight. At least I didn't call the F88 an LMG though, which I'm sure many others probably did.

Mikhail976
Comments on YouTube.

In the AA-12 category:
 * "Can I akimbo this?"
 * "stolen from mw2"
 * "lol this isn't the deadliest shotgun the spas 12 is a shotgun whit morge power"
 * "spas12 has way better range"

Mahoomushi
Conversation in YouTube comments:

(I was not in this conversation, just read it, and proceeded to laughing)

(Actual spelling and grammer... XD )
 * 1: "If I was in teh militarry i wood use akimbo model 1337s"
 * 2: "You mean the Model 1887?"
 * 1: "sry i ment 2 say i wood use the model 1887 cuz its 1337"


 * 2: "Wow....."


 * 1: "Yeah dats right, shaddup"


 * 2: "First of all, 'Akimbo' is only used for pistols in real life, and they call it 'Duel-Wield' and you would break your wrist from the recoil if you one hand fired a shotgun. And break your fingers from spin-cocking it."


 * 1: "ohkay then id use the ak"


 * 2: "What AK?"


 * 1: "AK-47"


 * 2: "What does AK-47 stand for?"


 * 1: "aGunThatMakesYouIntoA-Pancake-47"


 * 2: "Are you kidding me!?!?!?"


 * 1: "I just looked it up on Wikipedia"


 * 2: "Um....Ok.....What is the 47 for?"

(Conversation ended there.)
 * 1: "the year it was made in.....1747."

Dragstang: The military doesn't dual wield handguns either. In fact they don't dual wield anything.

In 7th grade American Studies class, talking about bayonets in the Civil War:

(The teacher passed around a bayonet from the Civil War for us to look at.)

Girl: "Has this been...Used on anybody?"

Teacher: "Yeah, probably."

Girl: *Passes bayonet to next person*

_______________________________________-

(Side conversation when a kid got the bayonet)

Guy: "Aw, sweet! They put this in the gun, and then they shot the knife!?"

(Half the class laughs.)

Talk? PWEEZ??? 13:05, November 5, 2010 (UTC)

Sp3ctr3 130 Ki11er
Kid in my class who thinks that you need to cock a pistol everytime you shoot.

He's half right. Ever hear of Single Action Only pistols? Or slide lock modified like the MK22 Hush Puppy? Don't let the leetspeak turn your brain to mush now.Strikerdelta 18:36, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Kid who thinks you can run forever with a 20 lbs. M249 S.A.W.

Friend who thinks that the AK-74 is a smaller AK-47, while it is 73 mm BIGGER than the AK-47.

He also thinks that they made the AK-74 & AK-47 in the same year.

Lastly, a kid who thinks you can flip cock, not one, but two Model 1887's at the same time.

Sp3ctr3 130 Ki11er 08:02, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Conqueror_of_all_Zombies

 * This this guy in my class thinks he knows everything about guns and he knows nothing. He thinks that the AUG isn't an assualt rifle (he calls it the "Awg Bar") and doesn't know that HBAR stands for Heavy Barelled and that the AKS-74u isn't a SMG. And that SMG stands for Small Machine Gun, and the the AK-74 doens't exist, and that the SCAR-H is the only varient. He also calls the FAL the "Fall" and the WA2000 the "Wa". He aslo thinks that the AA-12 doesn't have a drum mag, and cant fire explosive rounds. He also think that the AUG has Iron Sights, and that you have to get it custom made if you want the Swarvarski scope on it. He also think that the TAR-21 is Russian made, and it has iron sights (no dumbass, it has a built in Red Dot and is Israeli made!)


 * This other guy thinks that the Predator can't fire missiles in real life.
 * I was watching a TV show, and a Navy guy gave CPR to a Marine guy, and said, "How does it feel to be given CPR by a Navy medic?" Dear Show Writer: Incase you don't know, the Navy medics commonly help out the Marines too! Ever hear of a Corpsman?
 * Another person thinks that the Python is the only .357 magnum weapon out there.
 * The first guy mentioned thinks that is possible to put any size of bullet in any gun. He alsot thinks that the FAL fires a .50 BMG.

Raven's Wing

 * Spotted in the comments section of a YouTube video:
 * "Second one is not an assault rifle, it's a UMP45, which is a submachine gun."(The weapon in question was actually a G36C.) "I know you all think UMP's are﻿ only in Modern Warfare 2, but it's a real gun used primarily by the Navy Seals and Marine Special Ops for incognito missions." (Nope, that's the MP5 - the US Military doesn't issue the UMP at the moment) "A submachine gun fires a bullet smaller than 5.52 mm in diameter. Anything larger, up to 7.62 mm, is classified as an assault rifle. Above 7.62 is a light machine gun until 8.91mm, then you can guess." (Do I need to say anything here?) Raven&#39;s wing 14:13, December 17, 2010 (UTC)

Pvt. Trueblood
Other things that annoy me:
 * I hate how the Modern Warfare and Black Ops series portrays almost every gun using an M203 instead of the designated launcher. Some can be moddified to use that launcher, but that's a bit unrealistic.
 * My friend showed me a Call of Duty Black Ops official guide, and they had so mady firearm ignorance such as:
 * 1) Saying the AK74-U was a typo in both games.
 * 2) Calling the Stoner 63 a n00b weapon.
 * 3) Calling guns by their so called "nicknames".
 * Calling the Desert Eagle XIX the "Deagle", the "Gold Deagle" or the "Headshot gun."
 * Calling an M203 a "n00b tube" or "nade launcher"
 * Every assault rifle being an AK-47
 * The F2000 is from Halo (no it isn't!)
 * I draw a gun and they call it a FAMAS
 * NEW! This is so true.

Tagg3r
People who piss me off: I think this will apply to most, if not all, members of this group. And yeah, I want a trophy for the longest hate list.


 * People who consider any type of automatic firearm a "machine gun"


 * People who think that the Desert Eagle is the BEST PISTEL EVAR


 * People who think that the TAR-21 is actually Russian


 * People who call guns by their wrong names. (For example, calling the M4 the M16)


 * People who think that COD is realistic


 * People who think that throwing knives are effective weapons to use against armored soldiers.


 * People who confuse weapon types.


 * People who think that the WA2000 is a Russian standard issue weapon. (It's Dutch and VERY rare)


 * cough* Uh, actually, YOU'RE WRONG! The Walther WA2000 is GERMAN. Walther is a German firearms manufacturer. Why not get your own facts straight before you bitch about others, all right?Strikerdelta 05:01, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh crap. My bad. Wow what the hell. Walther is obviously German. Sry I musta had a brainfart from thinking too much about ignorant people. Tagg3r 02:00, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * People who think pistols suck (except for the desert eagle)
 * People who think you can flip cock two M1887s without breaking your fingers
 * People who think dual-wielding is common in the military
 * People who think COD copied Halo by putting in the F2000
 * People who call the Desert Eagle the "deagle"
 * People who think the AK-47 is really the AK-47. Actually, no. They're pretty much all been replaced by the AKM model. Either that, or it's an AKM clone. Genuine AK-47s are really rare.
 * People who think that a nuke could really destroy a satelite several ten thousand miles away in space.
 * People who think that the FAMAS can only fire in bursts
 * People who think that shotguns have retarted range in real life
 * People who think that the RPG-7 is an effective anti-armor weapon
 * People who do not realize that the "thingy" on top of the Black Ops SPAS-12 is just the stock.
 * People who do not know that the Intervention is called the Cheytac M-200
 * People who think that all magazines can be used with all guns.
 * People who do not realize that you can't "Create-A-Class" in the real military
 * People who do not know that the Barret M82 is also called the M107
 * PEOPLE that think the M82 is the same rifle as the M107I'm still classified biotches. teehee 19:19, May 31, 2011 (UTC)Griffon26
 * People who do not know that the Barret M82 can put a round through the engine block of a truck
 * People who think Semtex really does stick to everything
 * People who think you can really fire the Barret M82 that fast without suffering extensive internal injuries
 * People who think that Riot shields can really stop Assault-rifle rounds
 * People who believe that a single man can fight through an entire favella with almost everyone gunning for you, and survive.
 * People who think that joining the military is like the COD campaigns
 * People who think that nukes get dropped all the time
 * People who think that the Colt Commando is the M4A1 under a different name.
 * People who think the HK416 is an M4
 * People who do not know that the M4A1 SOPMOD really is
 * People who think that the TAR-21 has iron sights
 * People who cannot figure out why magnum rounds are so deadly
 * People who do not know any other weapons other than the ones in COD
 * People who think that getting shot doesn't hurt much
 * People who think call the AUG the bullpup. As if it's the only bullpup-configuration gun in the world!
 * People who can't tell the difference between the FAMAS G1 and the FAMAS G2
 * People who think that the F2000 really uses the M203.
 * People who do not know what the Shotgun attachment in MW2 is actually a smaller variant of the Remington 870 shotgun.
 * People who think that the Thermal Sight is just like the thermal sights in real life.
 * People who think that the China Lake is Chinese
 * People who don't think that the China Lake doesn't exist because apparently "pump-action nade launchers can't exist"
 * People who don't know where the China Lake was actually developed. ( I mean, it's obvious, isn't it?)
 * People who think that the China Lake was standard issue.
 * People who call the MAC-10 the "Uzi"

Trophy awarded! Sgt. S.S. 11:44, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

ToShootToKill

 * Watches a Simpsons episode with bro. Homer is holding a lever action shotgun.
 * Bro: 'That's an 1887 isn't it?' *groan*
 * On You've Been Framed, this kid holds a replica lever action shotgun (No, this isn't about an 1887) and Harry Hill calls it a pump-action shotgun, and the lever's clearly visible!
 * Why the Sea Snipers call magazines 'clips'?
 * On You've Been Framed, this kid holds a replica lever action shotgun (No, this isn't about an 1887) and Harry Hill calls it a pump-action shotgun, and the lever's clearly visible!
 * Why the Sea Snipers call magazines 'clips'?
 * Why the Sea Snipers call magazines 'clips'?
 * Why the Sea Snipers call magazines 'clips'?

Cpt. Dragunov

 * I was walking home with my friend one day and he says this to me
 * Him:What weapon do you use in MW2?
 * Me:The ACR. It's great.
 * Him:I prefer to use real assault rifles
 * Me:What are you talking about?
 * Him:The only real assault rifle is the FAL. Only machine guns can be automatic. DUH!
 * Me:*Facepalm*...


 * I'm at school during lunch talking to my friend when he makes a dumbass comment:
 * Him:Man, when I join the army, I'm gonna use my AK, my Deagles, my '1887s, and my Beret Fitty Cal.
 * Me: Alright, firstly, Americans and American backed groups don't use the AK47 or the AK74u or the AKS-74 or the AK-74 or the AKM, which ever one you meant, secondly, you'll never join the army unless you actually get in shape, thirdly, the Model 1887s have not and never will be used by the U.S army, fourthly, it's pronounced Desert Eagle and those are also not used by the Army, and fifthly, beret is a French hat, Barrett is a firearms company.
 * Him:Whatever, and the army totes uses the AK47, cause Mason uses one in Blops.
 * Me:I am not even going to answer that.
 * Turns out, American backed groups use Kalashnikov pattern rifles, look at the ANA, Afghan Government Loyalists, etc. And the AK-74u is unreal. You mean AKS-74u or AKMSU. 03:52, July 3, 2011 (UTC)~


 * A Cop came into our school and started talking to us.
 * My girlfriend:What gun do you use?
 * Cop:All police officers are required to use a glock 9mm
 * Dumbass #1:Deagles are better.
 * Cop:Excuse me?
 * Dumbass #2:He's just being an idiot. He knows the .44 Magnum is wayyyyyy better.
 * Me:Shut the hell up! You don't know anything about guns!
 * Dumbass #1:Yeah I do.
 * Me:OK then who made the Glock 9mm?
 * Dumbass #1:Duh it was Colt.
 * Me:Wow... *facepalm times 10*


 * I'm watching the Clint Eastwood movie Magnum Force where a crooked cop goes into an apartment with his .357 Magnum revolver and fits it with a suppressor. Ahem, excuse me movie writers, but IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIT A SILENCER ON REVOLVERS DUE TO A GAP BETWEEN THE CYLINDER AND THE BARREL. THIS MAKES IT SO NOISE STILL HAPPENS WHEN YOU FIRE. Also, he fires 7 shots without reloading, which is impossible for a six-shot revolver for obvious reasons. Also, when investigating the shooting, a scientist refers to the fired bullet to be a .44 Magnum. No, moron, it is a .357 Magnum.


 * A comment on the AUG talk page:
 * I don't know what you guys may say, maybe you guys find that this article is similar to the recent M4 & M16, M60 & M60E4, and SPAS pages, I do vote for a merger, as AUG HBAR from Modern Warfare 2 is a variant of AUG, and should be brought over to the AUG page of Black Ops.


 * Guess what? THE TWO GUNS ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.


 * Other things I hate:
 * People who think Bolt-Actions are more powerful in real life than semi-automatic sniper rifles because of CoD.
 * People who think revolvers are heavily used by the military.
 * People who can't tell the difference between a .44 magnum and a .357 magnum bullet
 * People who call Desert Eagles Deagles
 * People who think Brazilian gangs can get a hold of old and rare shotguns like the Model 1887.
 * People who do not know a Predator can shoot missiles(read news about the Middle Eastern Wars now and then, moron!)
 * People who think the AUG A3, the AUG HBAR, and the AUG are all the same.
 * People who think the Panzerfaust and the Panzerschreck are the same.
 * People who think "Snipers must quick-scope all the time in real life." Yes, that was another conversation had with my "friends".

Pain Emenor

 * One day, I was downloading some mods for Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic. I have found one about the MP5, and it's refered as "Machine Gun"... I hate that


 * other day, I was talking to a friend, but he said that the "Fusiles" (Spanish for Rifles) isn't rifles, so I don't talk with him after that day


 * the last one: I don't have a good english, but I understand the mostly. My classmates sometimes come with stupid questions, like "The SMG can fire the cartridge 7.62x51?", by that moment, I refered theses "men" as "Stupids"

Spaceblast
I might as well add: Another reson they ditched it was because prolonged firing caused part of the gun to melt. Pat5556 03:11, April 17, 2011 (UTC) moron: Idiot, the Commando is an M4A1 used in 'Nam, not WWII
 * People who think escaping from a GULAG is easy, by the fact that a guy who is twice as big as Evander Holyfield is going to rape a guard with a pickaxe, and having 1 guard with no firearms to check what's going on on the mines, and that Soviets have weak weaponry...
 * People who call the Karabiner 98 kurz the Car94 or whatever the hell is called
 * People who think the M14 saw service on the Korean War
 * People who think the Korean war was a standoff an that's it
 * I was watching the picture of a Lahti L/39 and a guy comes and says: 'Dude, stop watching porn' someone has to be *this* stupid to call an elephant gun a dildo.
 * The G36 sucks because its Nazi (I squeezed this guy's neck and then left in a hurry, he didn't die)
 * And yes, there are nuclear mortars, don't believe me? check this out: M388 Davy Crockett
 * People who think that the AK-47 is used by Al-Qaeda and it's the only gun they use, nope, they use the Type 56, AKM, AK-74, Type 81, AKS-74, AKS-74u
 * People who think the StG-44 is an AK-47 variant
 * People who think the AKS-74M shouldn't appear in viedogames because it is not as popular as the AK-74u
 * People who think the AK-74u exists
 * People who think the KS-23 is stupid because it didn't make it to MP
 * People who think the Olympia exists, it is a Berretta 682 with modifications
 * People who think that the Javelin is the only SACLOS/TOW
 * People who think the M202 locks on
 * People who think the Germans are Nazis because they use an MG42 (Nope, it's an MG3)
 * People who think Western firearms dating back to the 1950's are used by Russians
 * People who think howitzers, Triple A's, SAM vehicles, MLRSs aren't support guns because they aren't carried by hand and an individual
 * People who think the Desert Eagles Mk.XIX are the most powerful handgun in the world, when it's actually a revolver which uses .700 NE or .600 NE
 * People who call the FGM-148 Javelin the Russian hunter
 * That's not neccesarily a sign of ignorance. You ever heard of player nicknames? E.g. GL = Noob tube Sgt. S.S. 18:10, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * People who think UAVs are only from the US, when only the best UAVs are from USA
 * People who think the Chengdu J-20 is the Chinese couterpart of the F/A-18, when its counterpart is the F-22 Raptor
 * People who think AR-15 ammo is .223 Rem.
 * Actually, a lot of AR-15s are chambered for .223 Remington, not just 5.56. Cpl. SharpShooter 19:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * People who think you can trade your standard issue rifle for another gun you found in a weapons cache seized by a drug cartel
 * People who think the Winchester Model 1887/1901 is a lever action rifle because they saw a similar gun in Red Dead Redemption
 * People who call the Colt Python .357 mag or the Colt Anaconda .44 mag and the Colt Cobra the .22 mag, even though it's no Magnum
 * People who think the M61 Vulcan is a Light Support Weapon because they think it's light enogh to be carried around
 * People who think the M16 is only an assault rifle, when there is a SAW variant the M16A3 LSW
 * People who call the G11 the Brick Roll
 * People who want the XM8 so badly, face it, it's bulky, heavy and who else knows why the US gave up with this, but they are the Army, they know more than you
 * People who hate German weapons because they are not classic
 * People who call the Grenade Launchers Noob tubes
 * People who think the XM25 is noobish because it fires explosives and is automatic
 * People who think there aren't silenced revolvers, and what about the QSPR?
 * People who think North Koreans use FALs and G3s and HK21s and all European weapons you know which are from 1950's
 * People who think Juggernauts exist
 * People who think noob soldiers are issued with RPGs
 * People who think the M47 Dragon doesn't exist because TOWs didn't exist back then
 * People who can't see a difference between an AK-47 and an AK-74
 * People who think Glocks are used by every single army
 * People who think the PM63 sucks on real life
 * People who think the AUG an its variants are the same but with different names
 * People who think the Galil is Italian/Russian because of its name and who uses it in BO
 * People who think the Shkorpion vz.61 beats a Mauser-T-Gewehr in damage
 * People who think the M16A2 is automatic
 * People who hate shotguns because of its range
 * People who think UAVs grow on trees
 * People who think terrorists don't use the M16 because it's American
 * People who don't know the Vepr's shape
 * People who think APCs/IFVs are tankettes
 * Some guy asked me the name of some WWII weapons and I said: Welrod pistol, Commando, MG34, M3 Grease Gun, M50 Reising and M1A1 Carbine.

Me: Rat Bastard, I mean the DeLisle Commando carbine

moron: No, 'cuz the comm... (Interruption by me) Me: Just because you don't know the name doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

moron: OK. get stuck in your swamp of ignorance. (I was like, WTF's wrong with him)


 * People who think the Famas was made in 1968 by Sweden


 * People who think AUG stands for ^Awesome Ultimate Gun^


 * People who think the AT4 is British


 * People who think the US sent teams to Russia and hijack a nuclear submarine


 * People who think the HS-10 is a pirated AA-12


 * People who think the only full-auto shotgun is the AA-12


 * People who think the WA2000 is Russian and cheap


 * People who think the AK-74 is not common


 * People who think the StG-77 is an StG-44 with 33 things more (It's actually the AUG)


 * People who call the M79 Thumper an upscaled EX-41

Mario: Hey, did you know the Policeman SMG
 * People who think they can fuck a racoon with a whip
 * The same guy of below, said Browning only produces shotguns
 * I was talking to my friend Mario when this guy named francisco came to talk

Me: Certainly, it is made in Moldavia, isn't it?

Mario: Yes, it is quite similar to your Airsoft gun, the one with a sight

Francisco: Man, the Red Point Sight sucks, you can't hit shit.

Me: Do you know by personal experience?

Francisco: Yes, it is made in Taiwan

Mario: It is not, besides, that didn't sound good

Me: Francisco, Why don't you just stick a nail up your ass?

Francisco: No, you're quite ignorant, go fuck yourselves

Some days later, Mario and I were speaking about a TV Show on History Channel about snipers

Francisco: I saw History Channel and saw a US sniper called Carlos Hathcock shoot someone through a scope and knock his eye off

Me: So did I, it was pretty cool and quite commendable

Kevin: Maybe because he had an itirvincon

Mario: It is nicknamed Intervention, and back in '64 they didn't have an M200

Me: He had an M40, the other guy had a Mosin Nagant

Rat bastard: Man, that boat sucks on ice, it has a gay 1939 song
 * I was talking to a faggot in my class who is always bugging me, he said PBRs suck because they have a radio playing a gay 1930's song:

Me: It's a 1968 song, and PBRs do not always have a radio

I saw on a news report that the Mexican Army had captured over 36 AK-47, even though they were AKM-Skladnoy's, 5 Mk.2 grenades, even though they were F1 limonka's and even an M60 gatling gun, fuck them, it was an M240G.

Reznov115
I was talking to my friend and i said 'What does AK 47 stand for?' He replied 'MACHINE GUN!' *facepalm*

I was watching some army drama. The people in it were player 'Experts'. Guess what? THEY COULDN'T EVEN HOLD THE STEN RIGHT!!!!!!

Other hates

People who think that you can run around all day with a ^insert LMG here^.

People who call a magazine a 'Clip'.

People who think that you can just sit down and snipe. errr no, it needs to be planned days in advance....

CzesioTheCamper
I know its not about guns, but it must be told here.

My friend thinks that Pentagon is only 3 stories high, and has a motherf-king big lag, and hidden Pack-a-Punch, only because its in Black Ops.

João Lima
So, i have a friend who is a BIG fan of WWII guns. He used paper to make guns. So, he maded one that looked like a MP40. He said that it was used by Japan and that it was still used on todays days. He almost cried, really.

He also created an Uzi, and hands it over to a friend. That friend started shoting it like it was a shotgun, and making the sounds of reloading. I never spoke with him ever since.

The same dude said that M134 Miniguns should be used by everyone, because it has infinite ammo, and can shoot explosives, like in th AC130 mission of CoD4. I laughed for a lot of time, really.

Boy, that dude was sure a retard, well, my classmates are just as dumb or even more, they call everything that looks cool a "machine gun" Spaceblast

Ahaha, nice. Another one, instead of saying "sniper", the dude says "snéiper" or somethinng like that. Really reatarded. João Lima 17:24, March 14, 2011 (UTC)

So, when i went to a friend's party, we sited in a bench and started to talk about the "Death From Above" misson, from Call of Duty 4. It went out like this:

Friend 1: So, i have completed that mission where the screen is black and white...

Me: HAHA!

Friend 1: Why are you laughing? I bet you never did it.

Friend 2: Yeah, "noob" (WTF?), you are probably a total douche in that mission.

Me: Oh yeah? Then tell me something, what is the name of the airplane?

Friend 1: Duh, it was a AH-1 SuperCobra.

Me: WHAT?

Friend 2: Yeah, i mean, the AH-1 is the only one with 3 different weapons.

Friend 2 walks away.

Me: Okay....Then tell me what weapons does it fire?

Friend 1: Dude you're a total moroon. It fires a machine gun, an RPG and a sniper.

Me: ... don't talk to me until you have learned what A GOD DAMN AC-130 IS!

Friend 2: Umh... A satellite?

I was talking to a friend's cousin and we were discussing modern weapons:

Me: So, what is your favorite weapon?

Friend's cousin: The shotgun

Me: DUDE! I said favorite weapon: brand, name! Not the type of the weapon!

Friend's cousin: Ah! Sorry! The name of my favorite weapon, which is a shotgun, is an AK-47.

Me: ....so, i have to get going...

I was looking on the Internet about Airsoft weapons. I saw a very nice M16:

Cousin: "Wow. Nice MP5!"

Me: "Dude, it's an M16, not an MP5."

Cousin: "Yeah? Well, if you're a smarty ass on weapons, tell me what's the weapon they fire on Flashpoint?"

Me: "An MP5k with a flashlight."

Cousin: "There's no such thing as an MP5k..."

Me: "Well, if there's no MP5k in real life, than what's the weapon fired on Flashpoint?"

Cousin: "An M16, DUH!"

Me: *facepalm*

Blahmarrow
So I'm talking to my friend one day, and we eventually touch the topic of guns. He asked me what my favorite gun is, and I responded with the M4 Carbine becuase of it's ability to be radically customized. Then, he tells me his gun of choice, an M 16 machine gun! This led to an escalating argument, and we ended up going to this very site to prove him wrong. And we did. Go COD Wiki!Blahmarrow 22:49, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

Actually, Colt did produce a variant of a Heavy M16 that was belt-fed, meaning that while he probably didn't know of it, it exists. Major Blackout 15:10, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Really? Never heard of it. He also said that the AK 47 with semi auto could be a sniper rifle.Blahmarrow 19:29, April 24, 2011 (UTC)

Don't get me started about how one of my teachers called an Uzi a pistol, couldn't let that go oh no, no sir-re!

Jar teh Marksman
I have 3 quick stories. So, not that long ago, I decided to play MW2. I got into a game with someone named like XxAIM-KILL-AIM-KILL-xX. His mic was basically in his mouth, so you couldn't understand him, except for that he was a little kid. He was using the F2000 with GL, and after he got a couple kills with it, he procceded to call it the F200. I would've told him other wise, but I didn't have a mic. :(

I was also playing Ascension, and some kid who wanted to sound cool kept swearing at me and calling me "Faggot-Frog" (because my PSN is frog_bert). He got the G11, and asked if it was even a real gun. I face-palmed hard. He just was trying to sound cool around these bigger guys, but I was leading the team in points and clutched some situations.

Final Story. A kid in my class had to work with me on a Social Studies project. He was going off topic and searching up random things. I was bored and decided to ask him some questions. Here's a rough outline of the conversation.

Me: "Do you know what bolt-action means?" Kid: "What?" Me: "Bolt-action. Do you know what it means?"

Kid: "No," Me: "What about semi-automatic?" Kid: "Is that a video game term?" *facepalm*

Then I asked him what sound every shotgun makes. He said BOOM, chk chk. Err... no.

YAY 4 STORIES

In the brand new wikia chat, there was someone named "Sarah Michelle Gelar's brother" I asked if he was actually her brother, and he said "SHE DOESNT EVEN EXIST YOU STUPID" I laughed so hard, and he got all confused when I said I was going to put it on ATEFI. So what if it isn't about firearms, it's related to COD!

MatheusBond
When I first heard of the Bowie Knife on Zombies, I thought it was named after David Bowie. Because of this, I called it the "David Bowie Knife".
 * That makes two of us :P.  Nikolai  Talk  09:23, March 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Three Blahmarrow 19:32, April 24, 2011 (UTC)
 * Four Mortyofdeath 19:51 April 26 2011 (UTC)

TheEpicShot
A case on YouTube on the Military top 10 battle rifles AK-47 portion.(Note I was not involved with this)

Dumbass: The M16 is shit it is inaccurate as hell and weak no wonder the AKS-47(His EXACT words) was above it.

Smart Guy: Dumbass the AK-47 kicks MUCH more than the M16 the Ak-47 fire a large round that is more likely to knock you down than kill you as it cuts clean through your body due to the cartrige it fires. The M16 however if it strikes correctly will remain in the body and tumble around causing heavy internal damage.

Dumbass: Yeah but can the M16 penetrate balistic armor NO! the AK can

Smart Guy: Wrong again the M16 while it will not likely pentrate will cause bruising(Which hurts like shit) due to the impact and shockwave caused by it.

Dumbass: But the AK can shoot at ranges over 300 yards the M16 is limited to 100 yards.

Smart Guy: WRONG the AK-47 bounces aroung before the bullet even EXITS the barrel whereas the M16 hardly moves at all AND I already explained this to you.

After this I stopped following the argument

While not "Firearm" related this person was still fucking retarded(megatroll on YouTube)

megatroll: Fuck the USA if the Japs had won WW2 we would have HOT SEXY Asian girls living here not fat American chicks

Random Guy: If the Japs had won we wouldn't be free right now

megatroll: NO the Japs would have let us be free

Me: Dumbass I COME from Asia and let me tell you the chicks there are NOT as hot as you claim. Also many of my bloodline realtives agree that the Japanese from WWII were douchebags

megatroll: LIAR

Random Guy 2: megatroll you should be banned...

Once agains this pertains to the CoD series not guns specifically

Someone begins trolling me on one of my games by telling me the PS3 is a noob console because it copies the 360 then telling me that MICROSOFT made the CoD series, then I begin lecturing him on how every statement he made was wrong then he starts ranting on and on and on then I fall asleep

Probably the worst case I have ever personally experienced this occured in my school me and my "friends" were discussing our favorite guns to use in MW2(This story picks up in the MIDDLE of the conversation)

Me: Yeah but my favorite sniper rifle is the Barret .50 cal or M82(Note that at this time I did not know if it was the M82 or M82A1)

Dumbass: You are a fucking noob the Intervention is more powerful and more accurate it says so on the fucking stat bar.

Me: You are so damn retarded both weapons are perfectly accurate to their recticles, it only says that because the Intervention has less recoil, and by the way its real name is NOT the Intervention it is the CheyTac M-200 and both weapons have the same base damage of 70 along with identical multipliers.

Dumbass: You're fucking wrong

Me: A few more things in real life the round fired by the M82 is the .50 BMG whereas the the one fired by the CheyTac M-200 is the .408 CheyTac round however both weapons have advantages and disadvantages that cancel eachother out which in my opinion puts them on par with eachother, for one the M82's round packs a larger punch but due to its weight drops off sooner, the CheyTac M-200 fires a smaller round which while packing slightly less of a punch take more time to drop off therefore allowing it a longer effective range.

Dumbass:(Silence)

A random comment I saw on the M14 video of the Military's Top Ten battle rifles

Idiot: 3:26 Is that an attachable rocket launcher?

Me:(I didn't post this but this is what I said)Are you fucking retarded? That is a scope!

Gloryman3
This is a long list of thigs I hate Um for all we know it is possible I mean, the Soviets never really told us anything that was incredibly important (Besides the casualties they took in WWII) and they DID get the better half of the German scientists after WWII and we didn't know too much about any secret weapons the Germans had (I mean we didn't know they had plans to build something similar to the Wunderwaffe-DG2 until much later, so while not likely it is possible. TheEpicShot 06:14, June 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * People who say the G36 is harder to clean than the M16.
 * People who think the Commando is a Vietnam era M4A1
 * People who think the weapons used in the Vietnam War were no longer used after the 1970's, Then why, the AK-47, M16, R870 and M1911 were used in both wars?
 * People who think the MG4 and M249 SAW are the same
 * People who think the term "Bazooka" refers to every single rocket launcher and can be shot at Close Encouters without backblast burns half your squad and the explosion not hurting or killing the user
 * People who think Treyarch copied the Makarov pistol from the Ultranationalist Vladimir Makarov
 * Yeah i hate them too. Bleieve me all of my classmates thinks so so next day (a saturday) on my football training i show up with my Makarov. You shoulda seen the looks on theire faces it was hillarious Mortyof death 20:08 April 26 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for spelling mistakes im actually russian:p Mortyofdeath 20:10 April 26 2011 (UTC)
 * People who think most weapons in Black Ops fit the appropiate timeline
 * People who wish with all their heart that the Desert Eagle should be standarized in the US Armed Forces, Israel Defense Forces and be taken from the OpFor's hands
 * People who think the German Army is still called Wehrmacht other than Bundeswehr
 * People who think WWI was the first war in the 20th Century
 * I was looking information on WWII firearms (In which I found info on the DeLisle Commando) when suddenly a window pops and has written: "M1903 Springfield" (when it was an M1C Garand), Caliber: 7.62x51 (It actually is the .30-06 or 7.62x63), Ammunition: 7.62x54R (·Cough· Take me to the ICU ·Cough·), since then, I refer taringa! as "poringa!"
 * People who think ballistic knives are banned throughout the world
 * People who think the AK-47 is not used by the US or any US backed group. When in the 1990's attempt to kill bin-Ladin, Delta Force troops and Mujahideen fighters used AK-47s, MP5s and M4A1s
 * People who think when Nikolai refers when he was in Afghanistan with the Soviets, meant the Black Ops: DS level in which you play as Yuri Raslov
 * People who call the Barrett M82 the ".50 cal"
 * People who think the Russians stole from the Germans a secret chemical weapon
 * People who think the CheyTac M200 is a shotgun
 * People who think shotguns have a puny range
 * People who think the Commando is an M4A1
 * Some of my friend's friends invited me to pay Airsoft when suddenly SB shows me an Airsoft weapon he bought i the street and calls it a "Commando" because of the "this" (handguard), his weapon resembled more like an MPL
 * People who think the M4A1 is the only M4 weapon
 * People who think the SPAS-12 is the most powerful shotgun
 * This is so true (Sarcasm)
 * Random comment on YouTube: "LOL, we should have nuked the krauts russians and iraqs, because they are so evil and want to kill us" For your infromation, nuking Germany will also blow all Europe and cripple world economy, if Iraq was to be nuked, Westies would be in serious problems, if Russia was to be nuked, then "Ya nos llevó la chingada", we would lack gold, gas, fuel and they will come and kill the West
 * People who think Russians are evil. Then why this happened? And this?
 * Well some of them love of and some of them hate us so as far as i'm concerned those people are half right TheEpicShot 04:05, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

Friend 1: Why do you like guns so much?
 * People who think Russians actually bought ordnance from other countries
 * People who think nukes are the solution to everything
 * People who think Navy SEALs quickscope
 * I was in recess time when a friend and I reach the topic of guns, my friend started talking about guns, some time passed and this happen:

Me: The same reason you like basketball

Friend 1: OK, which is your favourite weapon

Me: Well, having a favourite weapon is not that easy, maybe the G36 or HK33

Friend 2: HAHA, I bet they are stupid shotguns, mine is the machine gun *Friend 2 starts saying shit to Friend1's ear)

Friend 1: Yeah, shotguns are so retarded, shells go "Ouch!" and bang your head

Me: Willy Melano (Funny name in Spanish, mean "Sniff my ass"). As days passed, these 2 guys came to a place and I received them with my airsoft AR-15 Sweet


 * People who think the only shotgun in WII is the M1897 Trench Gun, no, there is the M30 Luftwaffe Drilling, the L59A1 Drilling, the M1912 Trench Gun, the Browning A-5, etc.


 * People who think the MP40 has more stopping power than the M3 Submachine Gun


 * People who think the L96A1 was used by SOG


 * People who think the KS-23 is the only Russian shotgun


 * People who think the M16A2 is the fully auto variant of the M16A3, it was actually made BEFORE the M16A3 and the M16A2 is a 3-round burst weapon


 * People who think the Type 100 doesn't fire the Nambu's cartridge


 * People who think the M14 "kept Ivan out of Korea" and the M16 is a ".223 BB gun that lost 3 wars"
 * Comment on a YouTube video about a MAC-10: "that's no mak!1! Its a uzi!1!!1
 * Reply from another jackass: "no, the uzi is the kind of weapon, the mak is an uzi"
 * People who think the AK-47 is based on the STG-44. "Actually, the AK and the STG have nothing in common"- Mihail Timofeyevich Kalashnikov, designer of the AK-47
 * People who think that bolt actions are more powerful than semi-auto rifles
 * People who think the AN94 stands for "Automatic and National" and 94 is "how many bullets it can fire"
 * People who think the AA-12 doesn't exists, and if it existed, n00bs would use it
 * People who claim that the Winchester M1887 is not a shotgun because there's a Winchester lever action rifle in Red Dead Redemption
 * People who think the M16 has a maximum range of 980 yards
 * People who think you can shoot an M4A1 that you just pulled out of the water without blowing up. That's what I hate of IW
 * People who think WW3 will be fought by water or oil. Tell me, if there is no oil or water, what will the armies use as supplies? Biscuits?
 * People who think the HK21 can only be magazine-fed
 * People who think the M249 SAW can only be fed from 100 round "box clips"
 * People who think that the MG3 is Russian
 * People who think the AUG is the only weapon with "the clip behind the trigger"
 * People who think FMJ can be used in shotguns
 * People who think a rope of about 200 lbs. can be shot easily from a 4 gauge shotgun to destroy a helicopter
 * People who think you can swim 'till the bottom of the ocean and hold breath for long time, dodge sinking vessels and not be crushed by water pressure. Even in Pokémon they state that (that things get compressed with water pressure)
 * People who think the CIWS are just a load of baloney and if they fire at a missile, the CIWS ammo will fall down and hit the ship
 * Random comment on YouTube: "Killing is for cowards, ill rather have a bunch of terrorists shooting at us than soldiers killing innocent civilians". Hey, good time to go to Côte d'Ivoire
 * People who think the Benelli M3 is the same than the M1014
 * People who think the Desert Eagle .50 AE has less stopping power than a Colt Anaconda .44
 * People who refer every single small arm as "pistol"
 * People who refer every AK based weapon as "AK-47"
 * People who think it's easy to kill an elephant with a 9mm handgun
 * People who think you can toss atomic grenades
 * People who think the Army only uses small arms and certain vehicles, no martial arts
 * People who think the RPG-7 is the only weapon in the RPG series
 * People who can't tell the difference of a R870 and a R1100
 * People who can't distinguish weapons (e.x. Sniper Rifle = Machine gun)
 * People who pronounce machine gun: Matching gone
 * People who think the Famas is Russian
 * People who can't figure why the NVA, UNITA and Taliban use the AK-47 if it's Russian
 * People who think the Rk.62 saw use with the Red Army, but isn't sure of Python serving in SOG
 * People who think the MG42 was used prior to the invasion of Stalingrad
 * People who think the Cold War was an actual armed conflict (Sure it had parts like the Cuban Revolution, 1979 Soviet Invasion of Afghanistan, Vietnam War and others)
 * People who think the M202 FLASH stands for the flash it causes when shot
 * Someone's blog (not here) I love the UMP 45, chambered for .38 Special, the AK-47, Automatic Kalachnikov and the AUG (Picture of Beretta Cx4 Storm) stands for Armie Universal Gehwer. Fail
 * People who think the TAR-21 is .50 BMG
 * People who think the Galil is named by Galileo Galilei
 * People who think the HK416 is an M4 Carbine
 * People who agree on trading the M249 SAW by an M27 IAR, sure, the open bolt lets water, mud and sand in, it's too bulky, and it jams easily, but why not trade it by an M16A3 LSW or Ultimax 100? they are cheaper than both and no need for different spare parts, the M16A4 and M16A3 have the same mechanism and parts
 * People who think the G36C, G3A4, HK21, FN FAL, F2000, FAMAS and UMP 45 are used by the Spetsnaz
 * I sure stand people who admit they are not firearm wise, and are willing to be corrected if they have to be, but I cannot stand people who state MW3 will take place in between CoD 4 and MW2
 * People who think the Minigun is easily hand carried
 * People who claim every single shotgun is limited for a 20 yard range
 * People who prefer the M1 Garand over the M14 because it is shorter (fake), lighter (fake) and it's more powerful
 * People who think the BAR is 7.62x51mm
 * People who think the standard pistol in the Mexican Army is .22 LR
 * People who think revolvers are more powerful than square pistols 24/7
 * People who think there aren't suppressed revolvers, the QSPR and the OTs-38
 * One of my 2nd Grade teachers said this: "We make simulations, but in Europe, where there are millions of people dying because of the Americans..."
 * People who think the Mossberg 500 is outdated and is not used by any military
 * People who think the SWAT is the elite police force of all nations
 * People who think that "pistoling"="shooting"
 * People who call the explosive bolts "explosive crossbows"
 * People who call the FN FAL the FAN FAIL because they can't pronounce it
 * People who think the Famas is .50 BMG
 * Guy 1: What class has the C4? Guy 2: The Mini AK-47 (AKS-74u) that ended it all
 * People who think the KS-23 is a killstreak because of the initials
 * People who think you can configure your killstreaks in the Military
 * People who call the M1897 Trench Gun a "Mossenburg Model 1897"
 * People who think the SWAT defeats the GSG-9 because the Americans defeated the Nazis in WWII
 * People who think the Spetsnaz is a terrorist group backed by the Russian government
 * People who don't care if the weapon has different calibres, size, etc. just that can kill (Yeah, so your M16 can blow up after sinking it in water)
 * People who think the G11 is a mass-produced Hong Kong rifle (because of its one and only appearance in "Numbers")
 * People who call the weapons without capitalizing letters (e.x. m-249 saw)
 * People who think the M7 rifle grenade was only used for the M1 Garand
 * People who call the M1 Garand the M1 Grand
 * People who think the M9 and CZ75 are way higher caliber than the USP .45 and M1911 .45
 * People who think the .45 has more stopping power than the .44 because it's a bigger number
 * People who try to talk about guns when they tell you they have a "PGR-300 .2222222000000 calibre pistol"
 * People who say that guns are not bulky and are not heavy and have no recoil
 * People who think the Zastava M85 is the Krinkov
 * People who think the M1A1 carbine has a solid wooden stock
 * The M1A1 Carbine does, infact have a solid wooden stock. There's a wooden stock version and a medal folding stock version for parartoopers. Ireland_flag.gif  CoaZ Talk Ireland_flag.gif  01:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * People who think the M203 can be shot without being attached or having an adapter, and they think that when it's not attached, it gains the appearance of a MM-1
 * People who think the AC-130 has a SMG, Assault Rifle and a Bazooka
 * People who think the Bazooka can fire Tsar nukes
 * People who think the Commando is the only weapon of the CAR-15 series
 * People who think the Maxim gun is a Gatling
 * My history teacher thinks this:


 * 1) The Red Baron was a Gulf War US pilot
 * 2) The AK-47 is the M16
 * 3) Doesn't care which weapon is, which I find stupid (If you see a man with a .22 rifle there are more chances of you surviving, if not, piss off)
 * People who think the .22 Long Rifle is ineffective, which I find retarded, because it enters your body and bounces around
 * Today on a presentation about coutries (Economy, History, Military), a classmate wrote about the Wehrmacht (Which he thought it was the Bundeswehr, he pronounced it like Warm-match) and put the image of an American Designated Marksman with an M14, a SWAT operative with an M16A2 and I told him it's American, his answer? IT'S NOT, RAWR!!

AJ.Bialke

 * One time I was at a shooting range at a camp I went to last summer. I was watching some shooting (due to me being a helper and my job was to watch the younger scouts to make sure they don't kill themselves). A kid asked me a question because he was a little momma's boy and wanted to prove himself. He asked me, "Who created the AK-47 and what does AK stand for?" I asked the kid to write what he thought the answer was on a piece of paper and fold it in half. I then told him that it was Mikhail Kalashnikov and that AK stands for Avtomat Kalashnikova. I then unfolded the paper and it said that the AK-47 was invented by Albert Einstein and that AK stands for ass kicker. *FACEPALM*

Icommandoxx

 * My friend(who is brain dead when it comes to guns) always think that any AR-15 variant is copying the commando.
 * Said "friend" thinks that inreal life, you can throw your issue weapon and pick up another gun, and have all the ammo from it, "magically".

Reznov115
Where to start? First of all, I was at a gun show one day, and the guy gave me a rifle to hold and said 'That's the Kar98k' I was holding a M1 Garand.

Random TV show: 'He has a machine Gun!' The guy walked in with a MP5

People think that you can walk around with a M82A1 and NOT get knocked over with recoil. Reznov115 Talk  21:46, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

M129K
I might be 14 years old, but I'm a real weapon and wwII fanatic, and I might not be as clever in that respect as some other guys here, I know the basics. People from the Elemantary school I still know call everything that shoots explosives a "bazooka", they call everything else a "fat machinegun"("fat" is used in another context in Dutch than in English). And they call all submachineguns "Uzi's".

Random comment from youtube at an FAL video: "That gun is a piece of shit Famas red dot hardened owns it" For god sakes this isn't a gaming video. Just throw yourself of a cliff.

Sorry for my mediocre English, I'm Dutch, so English is my second language
 * That was actually pretty good English. Sgt. S.S. 21:50, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well thank you sirM129K 08:40, August 8, 2011 (UTC)