Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3/Archive 3

Robert Bowling Interview
Here is an interview of Robert Bowling regarding MW3 from a few days ago. 22:57, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Seems too ambiguous. He never actually describe those changes in detail. Archer250 11:20, July 31, 2011 (UTC) Robert Bowling said that there will be no last stand but it's in the spec ops survival trailer so... maybe he ment no last stand in multplayer??????

Characters
The rest of the characters should be added and the section with characters split into Delta Force:Frost,Sandman,Grinch,Truck,Grunt,Overlord, SAS with Soap, Burns,Wallcroft,Griffen and Cpt.Price and Ultranationalist with Makarov

Hardened edition
The MW3 page says the Hardened edition will be revealed at CoD XP, but it already has been revealed. The contents of the Hardened edition will be revealed at CoD XP.

Thanks. SPIRAL 00:10, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

There will be only hardened edition according to fourzerotwo's twitter.Source

SMK 14.96.219.144 13:31, September 14, 2011 (UTC)

Video section
In the video section shouldn't we add some game play footage? All we have is the teaser trailers and the reveal trailer. E.TALE Barracks Headquarters  16:26, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

PKP Pecheneg
In the MW3 Survival Trailer Sneak Peek, there's a Juggernaut soldier wielding what appears to be a PKP "Pecheneg", judging from its distinct carrying handle, as discovered by Jardak. Whether this is confirmed or not, it's up to debate. Some assume it's a Kel-Tec SU-16, but it's not because of the presence of a carrying handle, which is not found on any of its models. It's also a rifle, and that juggernauts always use machine guns, making it most likely that it's a PKP machine gun.

Wii (Confirmed)
can someone add it is going to appear on the wii?? Mr.flinstone 18:30, August 5, 2011 (UTC) Mr.flinstone

that weird moment when four studios work on one game

Weapons
Hi, I've spotted the use of a Steyr TMP (or B+T MP9, dunno) in this video : http://www.jeuxvideo.com/news/2011/00053147-la-totale-sur-call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3.htm (it is the second one, at 2:50)

Apparently it's to be considered as a machine pistol but I can't be sure of this at 100%. It can be added to the weapons list withous any risks I think. Babass7181.50.231.99 11:38, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Some new weapons from the Spec Ops Survival Trailer: USAS 12, M16A4, M60E4, FMG9, Riot Shield DarkFlame588 19:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

...and perks. I saw some perks like extreme conditioning, sitrep, steady aim, and last stand. Moiz1224 22:59, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

LAST STAND add it to the tier 3 perks. There are underbarrel grenade launchers!!! Predators are bback in multiplayer. If you look at the inventory in the multiplayer part of the survival trailer there is a predator missile in the inventory.

umm the caption of the gun in the main page is wrongly labelled scar-l. it infact, is the Remington ACR. The beige finish makes it look very similar, I know. - spazzykay


 * Fixed it. Thanks 09:21, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

you're welcome, sir. - spazzykay

DOUBT - Can anyone tell me what is the weapon in the second last picture? The one before the Pointstreak?

It looks like a FN-Scar but the iron sights don't suggest so, and the charging handle is totally from an M4 / M16. Anyone have a clue? - spazzykay The second to last weapon is the Magpull collapisible sub machine gun. It is built around the G18 machine pistol.

The boys at imfdb.org have confirmed that the CM901 makes an appearance. It's the M4/M16-like weapon that has a somewhat long reload. Sgt. Kamarov 15:35, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

And to add to my previous comment, as it has a longer reload than its look alikes, it might be a light machine gun, simliar to the RPK which was an AK on steroids, but given a longer reload for balancing. So I would wait to classify it Sgt. Kamarov 15:57, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

The SCAR-H has a longer reload than some other rifles already, maybe it serves the same purpose. Archer250 13:26, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Second last gun is definitely a Remington ACR. Archer250 09:47, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Why is the SCAR-L not listed in the weapon section? It's definitely in the game. People playing the survival mode at Gamescom were using it all the time. It has the same sights and animations as the SCAR-H in MW2.HannibaltheCannibal 09:33, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

Hi, The FMG9 Is in the submachine gun catogory but has been confirmed to be a secondary :L could you please change that ? SlappyTheSeal 22:38, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Can you source the confirmation? Carbonite 0 22:38, August 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * 0:15. IMFDB identified it as a CM901. Since this is an officially released video, could we assume that it is a CM901?Archer250 09:26, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Already a step ahead of you. I created the article yesterday. Sgt. Kamarov 15:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Hey, you guys really need to put the intervention back or make it be a downloadable add-on.. The trailer are sick and cant wait to play MW3!!.. Also I would like if you could make a section in the game where you can put custom camos by downloading pictures from a website and putting them on the flash drive into your system, so that the pics will show up in that section.
 * Keep up the good work guys !! 71.114.128.115 22:40, September 7, 2011 (UTC)xReFL3X-_-DiGiTz71.114.128.115 22:40, September 7, 2011 (UTC) PS3-


 * Confirmed Assaault Rifles
 * M4A1
 * M16A4
 * SCAR-L
 * CM901
 * TYPE 95
 * G36C
 * ACR 6.8
 * MK14
 * AK-47
 * FAD


 * Snipers:
 * Barret 50.cal
 * L118A
 * 71.114.128.115 22:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)Intervention71.114.128.115 22:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Lethal:
 * Throwing Knives
 * 71.114.128.115 22:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)Machete71.114.128.115 22:35, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Pred Missile
Right before the dude gets the Jug killstreak, he has a Pred Missile killstreak ready to be used. Can it be added to the Killstreak section?The capoe123 13:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

They fired from a different UAV, the reaper.So "Reaper Missle"? lol Archer250 09:19, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Mw3 spec ops survival trailer
What is the 4th gun in the spec ops survival trailer 71.240.205.164 14:59, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Looks like an MP5 to me. This is presuming we're talking about the one the player is holding while watching the helicopter crash. 15:39, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Anon, u mean the third? thats the CM901  HighbornBEN10 23:35, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

MW3 Engine
Remember a little while back when they said it would be too much work to create a new engine so they would be using MW2's IW 4.0 engine. However, later, they decided they would use a new engine. They would call it IW 5.0, but since Sledgehammer was working with them, they called it the MW3 engine. The article says it uses the same engine as MW2, and IW 4.0. Whoever is in charge of this page needs to change it to say MW3 engine and not IW 4.0. PkedU2Fast 19:40, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sure they DID say they'll use the same engine now. Archer250 09:18, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

it has been stated in several forum posts by robert bowling(FourZeroTwo) that they have made a new game engine(IW 5.0) but as stated above they called it the MW3 Engine due to respect that sledgehammer helped in the process 58.106.60.95 10:27, September 1, 2011 (UTC)tazdog]]

Multiplayer pointstreaks

Hi, I wanted to say there is no AC130 confirmed in the MULTIPLAYER, just the predator missle (see same vid as juggernaut, right corner below) and the juggernaut.

80.56.34.246 13:59, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

FMG-9
This gun is on the trailer for the Spe Ops Survival mode. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VI4c7jC038&feature=feedu and the multiplayer trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SMZizRlpyI&feature=feedu


 * Yeah, well, hope they see this aroundFloody 16 own&#39;s you 17:36, August 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * we now know that it is a machine pistol, in the latest modern warfare 3 multiplayer trailer as it is a secondary weapon in the load out.

New Weapon
A new weapon was spotted in the main page of sledgehammer's website. It wont let me upload a picture but it's the first slideshow you see for the Spec Ops Survival mode trailer. It has been rumored to be a FAD assault rifle. If you look closely at the writing on the gun it says FAD0002. Below is a picture of what the gun looks in real life.http://www.sledgehammergames.com/

Demonixelmo748 05:22, August 12, 2011 (UTC)demonixelmo748

Just checked over at imfdb, they confirm its an FAD. So will this and the CM901 be added, or do we need more information to confirm? OmgHAX! 04:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The pictures match so it's confirmed. We just need to know if it automatic, 3 round burst, or semi auto, becuase it was said it can be either.66.215.17.45 07:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Using info from this site, I posted on the IMFDB about this gun, so credit goes to those at the Wiki here who found it. Good wor, guys :) We worked together :D ChickenDoughnut 12:37, August 13, 2011 (UTC)ChickenDoughnut 13:37, August 13, 2011

IMFDB is th bomb!!

HighbornBEN10 23:30, August 17, 2011 (UTC)



Vector
According to the Vector page, the SMG is said to appear in MW3, but it is not on the list of weapons on this page. So can this be changed?

SXe Fiend 07:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

My good friends over at IMFDB have confirmed it in the Elite trailer featuring TheLegendOfKarl ChickenDoughnut 12:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC) ChickenDoughnut 13:34, August 13, 2011

We confirmed it over there a while ago. You only just noticed? 12:38, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, Raven, you misunderstand. I was only pointing out that they've confirmed it and that we should too. Sorry if I was mistaken, my apologies :) ChickenDoughnut 12:39, August 13, 2011 (UTC)ChickenDoughnut

Couple Of Things...
uhhh theres a LOT of confirmed weapons on here and nobody has changed it yet, like the vector, P226, and a few others.

Sporkmasta42 15:41, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, Sporkmasta, those are leaked weapons. Although some we've seen are, in fact in the game, and as much as we want them to be in the game, until seen in official gameplay or confirmed by Bowling, we can't do anything. I'm pretty sure at least 90% of those leaked guns are legit, but it's not our call. We just gotta sit back, be patient, and when the time comes around we'll change what's legit or not.

ChickenDoughnut 21:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC)ChickenDoughnut

Ok. I understand, but I kinda think its a bit harsh that you cant edit it at all.

Sporkmasta42 00:57, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

Survival Mode
Here is a simple analysis of spec ops survival mode.

"http://www.youtube.com/embed/-K2eqRe8w-4"

"Copyright Disclaimer Under Section 107 of the Copyright Act 1976, allowance is made for "fair use" for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching, scholarship, and research. Fair use is a use permitted by copyright statute that might otherwise be infringing. Non-profit, educational or personal use tips the balance in favor of fair use."

FPSGAMING 00:06, August 14, 2011 (UTC)FPSGAMING

Developers.
Should we add "Treyarch (Wii)" and "n-Space (DS)"?

DogNut327 01:38, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Intelligent Munitions System
Shouldn't the Intelligent Munitions System (IMS) be added as a point streak, it was shown at end of the MW3 Spec Ops survival trailer. Green929392 07:45, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

how do we know thats what it is? some people speculate its a signal for the AC-130 HighbornBEN10 23:26, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

An IMS is basically a bouncing betty smart mine, at least according to the trailer. Besides, the AC-130 signal is purple smoke. 72.230.101.106 01:40, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

True, but that was in Survival Mode. Even the Killfeed shows an AC-130 Kill Icon when He dies by the "IMS", so it should stay unknown till proven otherwise. IIID Empire 03:07, August 22, 2011 (UTC)IIID Empire, 20:07, 8*21*11

FAD and CM901 and FMG9
Who moved these two to the "assault rifles" category??????

IW has NOT confirmed this, so they need to be moved back to the "currently unknown category."

The same goes for the FMG9...did IW or sledgehammer confirm this is a SMG????? no they didnt, so could someone please fix it? Thanks for your time. HighbornBEN10 02:17, August 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * IW hasn't confirmed what most of the weapons are. That includes the FN five seven, PKP, P226, Famas, minigun and more. So if we're making a "Currently Unknown" category, we have plenty of guns to go there since most of them don't have confirmed categories in MW3. Carbonite 0 02:44, August 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * The FMG9 is not an SMG, it's in the machine pistol category.


 * k, cuz drrichtofen said we couldnt put the cm901 in a category...
 * HighbornBEN10 02:58, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Umm guys, you forgot the Vector! it is confirmed!
 * It can be seen slung over a soldier's shoulder. in his back. JoeRamirez
 * http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/File:CODBO-TDIVector.jpg


 * I think the cm901 is confirmed as an assault rifle. I mean what other category will it go in.66.215.17.45 01:51, August 22, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

KillsTreak stacking
Well it apears kills from killstreaks add to more killstreaks such as that bouncing mine killstreak earning juggernaut198.228.225.250 16:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

they are pointstreaks now99.135.107.70 23:54, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

They still stack 05:17, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

PARIS
Add Paris to the MP maps and the spec ops mission invisible threat  99.135.107.70 00:14, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

TYPE 95
The Chinese QBZ-95 will be in the game under the name "TYPE 95" and can be added to the assault rifle category. I know it's not confirmed yet but I unlocked, bought and used the weapon in spec ops play at Gamescom 2011 yesterday.

Proof or it didn't happen. Also, Sign your posts.IIID Empire 06:38, August 20, 2011 (UTC)IIID Empire,23:37,8*19*11

He cant have proof they tell you to put away your cameras before you can play the game.66.215.17.45 07:29, August 20, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Exactly why it shouldn't be added as a Confirmed Weapon.IIID Empire 00:15, August 21, 2011 (UTC)IIID Empire, 17:15, 8*20*11

How was the gun ? like was it a good one where the sights nice (make a page but dont link it to MW3) 99.224.82.102 03:37, August 21, 2011 (UTC) Nirvana inabox

Proof of gun? CoaZ Talk  03:46, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I have no proof other than my word. As stated above we weren't able to take pictures during play. Don't know if the gun was a good one since I didn't have the time to compare it to other assault rifles. It felt very accurate though. It's a 3-round burst weapon with a bullpup design reminiscent of the FAMAS in MW2 in terms of iron sights, handling etc. I already made a page but it got deleted almost instantly. HannibaltheCannibal 10:53, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

By the way, I completely understand that you don't want to add the TYPE 95 as a confirmed weapon yet but on the same page I find it kind of weird that you listed the FAMAS as a confirmed weapon just because a soldier in the background of a trailer scene was wearing it. For what it's worth, I haven't seen a FAMAS in the spec ops armory shop. HannibaltheCannibal 12:21, August 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to point out, the survival mode armory had like 4 weapons shown in it. And as far as I know, only side arms have ever been part of a character model but not used in-game (or widely used like the M1911 in MW2) so the basis for the FAMAS being confirmed is fairly solid. Carbonite 0 04:56, August 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * You mean the survival mode armory you have seen in the trailer had like 4 weapons shown in it. During my session at Gamescom it had more than that available.HannibaltheCannibal 08:27, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

Nice to see chinese weapons, the QBZ-95 is hot. I really hope this is true info, you'll break my heart if it's false. ;). 67.180.147.15 03:38, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

I wish I had proof but I haven't. For what it's worth, SAM5000i on his YouTube channel also spoke about a new three round burst weapon he played with at Gamescom. He couldn't remember the name but it actually was the TYPE 95 he was referring to.HannibaltheCannibal 08:27, August 23, 2011 (UTC)

MW3uploades youtube page also talked about it but called it the type 11.66.215.17.45 13:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Dedicated Servers
A recent tweet by Robert Bowling confirmed that the dedicated servers WILL be returning for the PC multiplayer, so that should definitely be in the MP section. Duuuuuude...! Remember, Rhesus Monkeys PWN! 12:31, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

M1911
Didn't anybody else see the m1911 handgun in the mw3 reveal trailer. Sorry to bring this out so late.66.215.17.45 23:02, August 22, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748
 * I really don't think that alone will be enough to pass the "solid undeniable proof" test. Not saying you're wrong but the PKP went down this road before. Carbonite 0 14:13, August 26, 2011 (UTC)

OVERKILL?
Think about it, what if the FMG9 is actually a SMG. They could be possibly hinting OVERKILL returning as a perk in MW3. Just an observation.

I assume you are referring to the trailer where the playable character switched to the FMG9 secondary. I'm pretty sure I've seen the FMG9 in the machine pistol category during gameplay at Gamescom, so for me it hints towards the return of strong secondaries. But the return of Overkill as a perk is a pretty good guess as well since the leaked information seems so to be valid. HannibaltheCannibal 20:01, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

MASSIVE SPOILERS SITE
I found this site via a YouTube video giving away a bunch of massive spoilers of MW3. I honestly think they're fake, but you never know.

Here is the site. Tell me what you guys think;

SpaceGhidorah 22:43, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

This is old news.66.215.17.45 05:44, August 29, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Doesn't answer my question. SpaceGhidorah 21:09, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

It doesn't need to. We've seen that article before, and made our thoughts quite clear on it. 21:25, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

A lot of Koyaku's leak have been proven right so far, but we will have to see.66.215.17.45 23:44, August 29, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Game engine
The source for the game's engine says that they are reusing the MW2 engine, but a few months ago Robert Bowling said they were using a new engine for MW3. http://attackofthefanboy.com/news/modern-warfare-3-moves-beyond-mw2-engine/     Icealien33 18:44, August 29, 2011 (UTC)


 * "Moved beyond" doesn't imply a brand new engine. I'm pretty sure Bowling said himself they're just using a remastered version of IW4, the MW2 engine. 21:27, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

EBR
Hey people I think I saw an M14EBR in the recent concept art released for MW3

Not confirmation. NEXT! 22:17, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

For the record, I do think it is the EBR, but your right its not confirmed yet.

Sporkmasta42 22:44, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

The picture looks like the background was all concept art and then they took the m14 EBR and put it in the picture, but it looks kinda different from MW2 so i know it will be in it but i also know its not confirmed.

66.215.17.45 01:43, August 31, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

A an off-topic quote, i REALLY hope that the EBR has black furnishings this go-around.

Sporkmasta42 21:08, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry if this is so noobish, but I think the first city shown in the concept art section is in France, due to the architecture and style.

Multiplayer Reveal Trailer Released
http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1038905/modern_warfare_3_multiplayer_gameplay_trailer_revealed.html

E.TALE Barracks Headquarters  11:44, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

Bouncing betties and more!!!
In the latest mw3 multiplayer trailer which shows of more than just new graphics but new perks, killstreaks and allround badassness. Check it out at... http://kotaku.com/5836862/enjoy-modern-warfare-3s-new-multiplayer-trailer?popular=true. enjoy!!!

Thing in MP reveal
From this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axuufVf3Quo

Perk 1: Recon, Extreme Conditioning, Blind Eye, Recon

Perk 2: Quickdraw, Assassin, Overkill, Blast Shield

Perk 3: Sitrep, Dead Silence

Game modes: Kill Confirmed (:16), Capture the Flag (1:15), Team Deathmatch (2:08), Ground War (3:10)

Primary weapons: M4, ACR 6.8, Dragunov. Also, the sniper throughout the video sounds a LOT like the M40A3. Any chance it's back?

Attachments: Red Dot Sight, ACOG,

Secondaries: M320 GLM, FMG9, XM25, RPG-7 (can be seen on a soldiers back at 2:27)

Equipment and the like: Frag grenades, throwing knife, stun grenade, some sort of a mine, like those in "Loose Ends"

Killstreaks: UAV (3), Ballistic Vests (5), Airdrop Trap (7), AH-6 Overwatch (9), Remote Turret (9), Recon Drone (10), EMP (11), Stealth Bomber (14), Jugggernaut (15),

Also, at 3:13, it looks as if his killstreaks are perks.

Something called "Proficiency Focus" almost anytime the class layout comes up.

I thought that sniper looked more like the L96; it looks like it has a thumbhole stock. I also spotted what might be a Mk. 46, and an anti-rocket turret. OmgHAX! 16:07, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

From the live video from XP, .50cal, USP45 are also confirmed. I'll edit as I see more things. 98.113.18.236 19:06, September 2, 2011 (UTC)
Overkill is back. When the trailer pauses to show the loadouts of one class it shows a guy with a Dragunov and an ACR. It also shows overkill in the second perk slot and it is pro, but it doesn't show what the pro version does. also shown at :26 in the multiplayer reveal trailer is the throwing knife, and at 1:40 is an explosive decoy similar to an already hacked carepackage falling from a helicopter.

Elchango95 19:44, September 2, 2011 (UTC)Elchango95

RSASS
I saw from DigitalWarfare247 from one of the links about N7s post the sniper, Remington SASS. Shoud we make a page about it?   Dr. Brew Talk    21:44, September 2, 2011 (UTC)

This video pretty much explains it all when it comes to guns, perks, camos, etc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpgvI0Ow04&feature=channel_video_title

What does that have to do with the sniper?   Dr. Brew Talk    19:42, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Perks
I was wondering why the perk list was not complete and I wanted to show everyone this video Of a lot of guns, perks, killstreaks and guns. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I10I4wgistA&feature=feedu

XM25
Why is it called the "Punisher" on this page? DarkFlame588 01:38, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

More guns
Snipers: AS50

Pistols: Five-seveN, P99

LMGs: Mk. 46

Shotguns: Striker

Attachments: Heartbeat Sensor, Hybrid Scope, Variable Zoom, Foregrip, AG36 or M320 (On the G36c, not sure what one)

Equipment: Claymore

Skullvondude 04:23, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Other weapons:

MP9 (machine pistol) at :48, first video at http://beta.digitalwarfare247.com/games/modernwarfare3/202-gamespot-mw3-gameplay-videos

MP7 can be seen as an SMG on the Create a Class video on the same link.

AK-74u
This gun needs may need to be removed. Unless it's like the KS-23 in Black Ops where it is only in single player, the 74u isn't in the SMG category in the Create a Class menu JoMick5639 06:08, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Cod XP has released copious amounts of multiplayer information, check videos from gamespot and other providers

Just from what I've seen from the massive amounts of videos:

Juggernaut killstreak involves a carepackage that you pick up and gain a health buff, as well as a riot shield. (takes two hits to kill with riot shield)

Quickscoping is definetly back, was confirmed before, but now we have footage and gameplay. Barrett, and Dragonov have been seen

Killstreaks have been showcased in the videos, ranging from attack helicopters, to fake carepackages, to Juggernaut- confirmed that there are three types of killstreaks: Strike (Defult MW2-like ones), Support (Help the team), Special (Perks)

The menu and customisation is also availiable, has a signature black and green theme

In terms of perks, many have been released, even a "quick-draw" perk designated for quick-scoping. A proficency perk/slot is also availiable in the customisation

122.109.102.143 06:10, September 3, 2011 (UTC)userlux1243- not a forum mod, just an ordinary kid

????????????
What gun is this? It's a semi-auto gun spotted in the multiplayer reveal game

but no one knows what gun it is. It's not the fal becuase its not in the multiplayer and it doesnt look anything like the mk 14. Any ideas of what this gun is.

Demonixelmo748 14:48, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

It's the FAL. Hiptechboy 14:59, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

No it isn't. The FAL isnt in the assault rifle category, you should really look again and not just guess.

Demonixelmo748 15:01, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Yes it is in the assault rifle category in the CoD8 weapons template. Smuff uploaded the same pic and listed it as a FAL. 15:05, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

The only semi auto gun in the multiplayer is the mk 14 and just becuase one person said it's the FAL doesnt confirm it. Demonixelmo748 15:07, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

There's another semi-auto gun by the way. And i'm sure Smuff(an admin) wouldn't call it the FAL if he wasn't sure about it. 15:10, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

look at the assault rifle category

1. M4A1

2. M16A4

3. CM901

4. Scar-L

5. Type 95

6. G36c

7. ACR 6.8

8. Mk 14

9. AK-47

10. FAD

Where do you see the FAL? Demonixelmo748 15:13, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/L118A Go on that page and scroll 2 the bottom, you'll see the cod8 template there. It lists the FAL. This page hasn't been comepletely updated. 15:15, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

??????????????? Where What picture?Demonixelmo748 15:19, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixemlo748

Actually, that picture looks more like the AS50, than the FAL.IIID Empire 12:43, 9*3*11

This is an assault rifle, not a sniper rifle. 19:57, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Nvm, forget it.

Weapons
Skorpion and FMG are machine pistols. This is confirmed in many videos, so why is the skorpion a SMG on the weapons template?HighbornBEN10 14:56, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

I know and some stupid person put the mp7 in both smg and machine pistol category and put the mp9 in smg

MP7 goes in smg

Mp9 goes in machine pistol

Skorpion goes in machine pistol

Demonixelmo748 15:05, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

thank you good sir!!!HighbornBEN10 15:40, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Scar-L 1st Person
In this video the guy is using the scar. Someone take a picture of it on the comupter and add it to the Scar-L's page. I cant becuase mine isn't working.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXGIFh3A4Gk

Demonixelmo748 15:00, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

UPDATE THIS SHIT THE THING CAME OUT 184.153.117.250 15:30, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

Camo
Secondaries can have camo now...in the MP reveal trailer the FMG9 (a machine pistol) had red tiger!!!!HighbornBEN10 19:58, September 3, 2011 (UTC)

NVM DarkFlame588 20:21, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

MORE WEAPONS
Not all weapons have been released at COD XP, more weapons are yet to be reveiled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzC3p5fy4hE&feature=channel_video_title

Just skip to 4:48 he says there not revieling all the weapons at COP XPthat means the ak 74u, at4, rpd, mp5k, famas, fal, and vector have chances making the final cut and other specials also becuase in the video when you see the category where the riot shield go which is a special weapon but they put in specials. It could be a hint going towards that we might see other specials in the game then the riot shield.66.215.17.45 23:23, September 3, 2011 (UTC)Demonix Elmo

WTF!!!

I spent all that time writing down the weapons and then someone decided it's okay to delete it all. Absolutely not, I will not stand for this. OMGisnipedU 17:51, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I did that too. I spent time on it and they just delete it, sucks but i guess were just gonna have to deal with it.Demonixelmo748 19:09, September 4, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

If it got deleted, it was most likely done for a reason. Can you give me a link to the old edit please? 19:11, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * EDIT: It was deleted because it was redundant when we also have this. 19:13, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * EVEN M14 / M21 EBR is in the game, it was in the concept screenshot as well as the Kotaku leak.
 * Personally, I think Famas has been replaced by the Type 95. Think about it. They look absolutely similar, and both are 3 burst. Chinese FAMAS HAHAHA! But then, it'd be weird cos France is one of the location and it is GIGN's official AR. - spazzykay
 * Or they haven't revealed everything yet. Think about it; we saw the Vector on an MW3 character model in a promo, and that's not been seen anywhere yet. 08:40, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Map Template
Could somebody please make a template for the MW3 multiplayer maps? Thank You! Makatak7 17:59, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

RDS
It appears that they only had the CoD4 RDS at XP, I hope they werent showing all the attachments. Do you guys think the MW2 RDS is still in MW3? HighbornBEN10 20:00, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I hope so RC95 09:59, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Could of sworn I saw it in the survival mode trailer. DarkFlame588 20:21, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ya but survival and mulitplayer are two different things66.215.17.45 03:14, September 6, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Callsigns
Callsigns return from Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2. Xx AsiAnZ xX 10:18, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Also, its the first to feature to new attachments: Hybrid Sight and the HAMR Scope.

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is also the first Call of Duty to feature Double XP without events.

Ok im tired of everyone posted whats new on topics that they dont belong in stay on topic even though theres no way to reply to this really if you want to tell whats new in mw3 then start a topic about it.66.215.17.45 03:13, September 6, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

G36C
The G36C's grenade launcher is an AG36, NOT a M320. Can someone make a page for the AG36? HighbornBEN10 15:16, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Done ;) AG36  RC95 21:13, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Perks
In the Trivia section, can someone change the one that says MW3 is the first to allow the player to use more than 3 perks? WaW was the first (don't forget they had the vehicle perk), and MW2 could be the second if deathstreaks count as a perk.

Please sign your posts. If you're not an anon, why can't you do it yourself? DogNut327 21:44, September 5, 2011 (UTC)

Starting Weapons
Does anyone know what the starting weapons for multiplayer are?   Dr. Brew Talk    03:39, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

M16A4, M4A1, SMAW, L86 LSW, etc. HighbornBEN10 22:27, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

MP5, maybe UMP45, USP.45, Usas-12, Barrett 50. Cal, maybe L118A 66.215.17.45 22:31, September 6, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Dang, I didn't know he asked for the gun list. You only start with 1 gun guise. My bet is M4A1, MP5, L86, Barrett, USP, and so on. --Slowrider7 03:05, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

In MW2 you start off with 2 guns unless it's a secondary.66.215.17.45 04:14, September 8, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748
 * No you start off with one gun then unlock another at level 4. --Slowrider7 11:27, September 8, 2011 (UTC)

Really bad Editing
Ok i keep seeing pages like http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/CM901. You will no whats wrong with it, it's really obvious someone fix it becuase i can't do it without screwing something else up.66.215.17.45 06:37, September 6, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

You mind explaining the problem to the class? 07:42, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't matter it's fixed now.66.215.17.45 13:55, September 6, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

emble & titles
in one of the video the callsigh FNG form MW2 is back in MW3 could we make a callsign for MW3 MVME2NIGHT 15:17, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

MW3 is the most anticipated game in the world.i hope it doesn't turn like Daikatana

FMG9 Picture
Isn't the picture on the FMG's webxite from kotaku's leak? If so why can't we use any of the other leaked pictures with the background taken out.66.215.17.45 16:30, September 10, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Yea, no leaked pics allowed. If we find that there are leaked pics on a page, we delete them. I'm not sure if that one's leaked or not. 16:32, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Ok just making sure.66.215.17.45 16:51, September 10, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Team Defendor
WoodysGamertag talked about a new game type called Team Defendor when you defend the person who has the flag for points like oddball in halo. Heres the link.http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=iv&v=QWsBEFUCnLU&annotation_id=annotation_501643&src_vid=dh9A_Of6twg Skip to 4:46.

66.215.17.45 16:54, September 10, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Unlimeted prestige in MW3


Ok so I notive that on the prestige shop there are a least 11 thing you could get but there are only showing up to prestinge 3 that got me thinking if you want extra classes and want the title and emble then you going to have to prestinge more than 10 times to get if only up to 10 prestige. does anybody know how many token you get when prestiging on the picture it's show 10 token. but if you only get one toke per prestige do you guy think that after the last prestige lets say 10 you could enter again to get whatever you missing like custom class?
 * That picture is tiny as hell. Get a bigger one please so I can try to understand what you're talking about.Carbonite 0 16:27, September 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * sorry that the only one I found but its just state the below thing
 * Extra Custom Class

Reset All Stats Double XP Double Weapon XP Unlock Gear Challenges 1 Challenges 2 Challenges 3 Title And Emblem 1 Title And Emblem 2 Title And Emblem 3
 * here the link so you could look yourself if you want http://www.charlieintel.com/2011/09/05/mw3s-new-prestige-shop-all-menu-screenshots/ at the bottom the person has 10 token to spend.MVME2NIGHT 16:32, September 12, 2011 (UTC)

Clipping
It might be interesting to note, it seems you don't clip with your teammates anymore. In MW2, you could, meaning people could block their team and generally be annoying, you might want to add to multiplayer changes that this no longer happens

Very interesting. If this is true, it'll ruin some of the fun for me. Got source?IIID Empire 05:10, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

It was in a Paris domination gameplay vid, look carefully when they move as a team on a capture point, they seem to move through eachother now.

Could possibly one of these new features for gametypes, one that could move through to online. Interesting...86.135.22.59 22:32, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Emblem stickers on weapons (again)
Could someone confirm that it isn't on the SCAR-L model we saw in the other video?(The one with the HBS) Because if it isn't on the default weapon skin, this *might* mean the option to stick your emblem to your gun returns from Black Ops. .:Archer 250:. 12:02, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

It is the Scar-L and it even says scar on the side.66.215.17.45 13:31, September 13, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

Wait, it did? I didn't notice. I'd better check on the other Multiplayer video again. .:Archer 250:. 13:59, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT:

Yeah, it's the SCAR-L's default skin. Sorry, false alarm .:Archer 250:. 14:00, September 13, 2011 (UTC)

Ya that circle you saw is the logo of the gun and it says Scar something.Demonixelmo748 14:13, September 13, 2011 (UTC)demonixelmo748

MW3 Achievements
Back in the Fight- Start the Single Player Campaign on any difficulty &nbsp Too Big to Fail- Destroy the Jamming Tower. Complete "Black Tuesday" on any difficulty Wet Work - Take back New York Harbor. complete "Hunter Killer" on any difficult One way ticket- Make it to Westminster Complete "mind the Gap" on any difficulty Welcome to WW3- Save the Us Vice President. Complete "goalpost" on any difficulty Sandstorm!- Assualt the shipping company. Compplete "Return to Sender" on any dificulty Carpe Diem- Protest Soap from Makarov's men. Complete "Persona Non grata" on any difficulty Frequent Flyer- Defend the Russian President. Complete "Turbulence" on any diofficulty Up to no good- infilitrate the village. Complete "back on the grid" on any difficulty Vive la Revolution!- Reach the church. Complete "eye of the storm" on any difficulty Requim- Escape the city. Complete "blood brothers" on any difficulty Storm the castle- Discover Makarov's next move. Complete "Stronghold" on any difficulty Bad First date- Find the girl. Complete "scortched earth" on any difficulty Diamond in the rough- Rescue the Russian president. Complete "Down the rabbit hole" on any difficulty The Big Apple- Complete "Black Tuesday" and "Hunter Killer" on veteran difficulty. Out of the frying pan- Complete "Persona non grata", "turbulence" and "Back on teh grid" on Veteran difficulty European Vacation- Complete "mind the gap", "goalpost" and "return to sender" on Veteran difficulty City of Lights- Complete "bag and drag" and "iron Lady" on veteran difficulty The darkest hour- Complete "Eye of the Storm", "Blood Brothers" and "Stronghold" on veteran difficulty this is the End- Complete "scorched Earth" "Down the rabit hole" and "Dust to Dust" on Veteran Difficulty Who dares win- Complete the campaign on Recruit or Regular The Best of the Best- Complete campaign on hardened or veteran Strike!- kill 5 enemies with a single grenade Jack the ripper- Melee 5 enemies in a row Scout Leader- collect 45 Intel items This is my boomstick- kill 30 enemies with the XM25 in "Black Tuesday" What Goes up...- Destroy all the choppers with only the UGV grenade launcher in "persona non grata" Secret- this is a secret achievement From whom the shell tolls- Destory all targets during the morter sequence with only 4 shells in "back on the grid" Kill Box- Kill 25 enemies with the Chopper Gunner in a single run in "return to sender" Danger Close- Take down a chopper with an ac130 smoke grenade in "Bag and Drag" Menage a Trois- Destroy 3 tanks with a single 105mm shot in "iron lady" Jara Crimrman- kill an enemy in the store without getting spotted in "eye of the Storm" nein- kill 9 enemies with A-10 strafing runs in "scorched earth" 50/50- Complete a special ops mission with the same number as kills as your partner Birdie- kill 2 enemy helicopters without getting hit Serrated Edge- finnish a Jeggernaut with a knife Arms Dealer- buy all items from the survival weapon Armory Danger Zone- buy all items from the survival air support armory Defense Spending- Cuy all items from the survival equitment armory Get rich or die trying- Have $50,000 current balance in Spec Ops Survival game I Live- Survive 1 wave in a spec ops survival game Survivor- Survive 10 waves in each mission of Special Ops survival mode Unstoppable- Survive 15 waves in each mission of Spec Ops Survival Mode No Assitance required- Complete a spec ops mission on Hardened or Veteran with no player getting downed Brag Rags- Earn 1 star in Special Ops Mission Mode Tactician- Earn 1 star is *typo on the actual acheivement* each mission of Special Ops Mission Mode Overachiever- Earn 48 stars in spec ops mission mode

MVME2NIGHT 15:38, September 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Unsourced wall of text = not added. Carbonite 0 15:39, September 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't know if it's true just found these on MW3 forum may not be legit.MVME2NIGHT 15:59, September 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * here the link http://www.se7ensins.com/forums/topic/570988-official-mw3-achievement-list/

Dead man's Hand
This deathstreak is listed on this wiki as a c4 charge dropped on death, though it seems this is speculated, so I tried to confirm it. In the gameplay video titled INTENSE GAMEPLAY a player kills another player at the top of the stairs in the subway map, the dead player has a round projectile (similar to the new bouncing Betty) fly off his corpse, so the player dives back down the stairs. This is the best part, the damn thing FLEW at the player like a homing missle,and blew up when it hit him, scared me to see it happen, and the killfeed listed it as an AC-130, though it's probably just a placeholder icon. I'll bet this is what dead man's hand really is.

I think I'm supposed to leave my name or something, I'll leave AE20, September 13th...

Do you have a source? that would be greatly appreciated. Kajoman 14:16, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

MW3 Editions
fourzerotwo has officially confirmed on his twitter that hardened edition will be the only collectors edition for this title - spazzykay

Gear
Does anyone else think that fire selector could be one of the things you can unlock with gear when you prestige?What people thought was the FAL in the multiplayer reveal triler was really the M4 semi-automatic. Any thoughts?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuOCCeXlszw Look at 1:1166.215.17.45 01:22, September 15, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

New Locations?
Can someone explain why there are now a lot more locations on this page? Is this actually correct or is it fake? a source would also be nice.86.135.22.59 22:31, September 15, 2011 (UTC)

Possible Era?
In the teaser commercials, when the W flips to make an M, it may be suggested that the game is World War 3.

Coolguy3145 01:23, September 16, 2011 (UTC)coolguy3145

Oh god, a bloody genius.IIID Empire 13:58, September 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thailand
I found this on google traductor |en|%E0%B8%AD%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%B2%E0%B8%A3%E0%B9%84%E0%B8%97%E0%B8%A2 "Sun cream and Thaï" (or apply the paint in Thailand and Thai if the phrase is written twice). This phrase was on a sign seen in the multiplayer trailer and two screenshot with PMC and Inner circle fighting.

Comateman 22:06, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, have you heard of Thai towns? Yeah I can see อาหารไทย (Thai Food), "นวดแผนไทย" (Thai Massage) and a "ศูนย์ -" The last word's blocked out, but it's apparently the name of the center/complex (ศูนย์).

But that doesn't mean Thailand is confirmed... .:Archer 250:. 23:42, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Ah also, don't use google translate to translate Phrases. I tried translating "Fuckin Shit" from English to Thai and it got "Pretty Girl"

The sign you saw said "Thai Cuisine"/"Thai food". Don't argue otherwise. .:Archer 250:. 23:44, September 16, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry i took the ห for ท. Obviously it wasn't "sun cream and thai food" for the restaurant. Thanks Archer.

Comateman 10:43, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

Your welcome... anyway It could be a Thai-Town... if it IS Thailand, then I can guess why the Type-95 is there.

Last I checked, speculation was not allowed in articles. Until either a developer says we're going there, or we get a video from the devs telling us "you're going to be playing in thailand" then it's speculation.86.162.167.39 21:11, September 17, 2011 (UTC)

That's the point of my edit. It could be a Thai town in ANY country. 110.171.4.232 02:35, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

^ That was me, forgot to sign in. .:Archer 250:. 03:21, September 18, 2011 (UTC)

MW3 Prestige Sign
'''I found this while watching the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 multiplayer briefing full length video when he was talking about mobile app at 33:20 in the video and saw a prestige symbol. Has anybody seen it? I havent seen anyone post it so i decided to share.You guys think it is a actual prestige symbol thats gonna be in Modern Warfare 3?'''

KingKhmer007 00:36, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Good find, but I wouldn't go off & add stuff. Slowrider7 00:45, September 19, 2011 (UTC)

Shotguns
Will shotguns be considered secondary weapons in this game? So far as I guess, no, but on MW2 they were considered secondary. please clarify as soon as possible.

-Kajoman 14:14, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

I believe we've already been told Shotguns are primary weapons. 14:23, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

there is something called google you should probably try it out and no shotguns are primaries.66.215.17.45 02:53, September 24, 2011 (UTC)Demonixelmo748

I can see that living under a rock is doing well for you.IIID Empire 05:36, September 24, 2011 (UTC)

Campaign
Saw an article which shows the possible achievements that will be in MW3.Also in that list it shows the list of campaign levels.Total missions comes to 16.But this may change prior to game release.

Link 1

Link 2

SMK 14.96.146.12 13:56, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Yes just read that. It doesn't look fake or made up. Should be true and i think it should be added to the page.

KenLee318 14:00, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Not unless it's an official source or a sanctioned source. COD:LEAK. 14:02, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

I just posted for the info.Not intended to post in the modern warfare 3 section

SMk 14.96.146.12 14:14, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Mini map
I noticed that in the 5 second multiplayer snippet in the Spec Ops reveal the map was really detailed, but in the vids from COD:XP, the map is the same as the past few games :( I hope it was just a deadline for XP and that the map will be as detailed as it was for the actual game. ChickenDoughnut 14:37, September 26, 2011 (UTC)

Abuse of support strike package and resetting while alive?
It seems to me that going 4+5+8 using the support strike package is the easiest way to get points from pointstreaks because as long as you get the kills, you'll get the pointstreaks. Is this true? Zeroblizzard 19:54, September 26, 2011 (UTC)Zeroblizzard