Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

Needs Minor Updating
After the recent MP reveal event, a lot has been confirmed to be in the game, and what's not in the game. I think this page needs some updating.

Also, the statement about Treyarch highly considering a multiplayer beta is false. At the recent event, the Lead MP designer stated that they have not been considering a beta, and instead have been doing extensive internal beta testing with different companies under Activision. I see that this was actually reprotected today, but I do not see the purpose behind keeping the main article about the game void of the latest, CONFIRMED info about the game. Zoahinx 16:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Reprotected
You guys did great adding new stuff, but now speculation is starting to come back in, so its time to protect the page again. Darkman 4 06:26, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should include magazines in reserve along with magazine size.
Here is the weapon info that I found from looking at various videos.

Weapon...............Magazine/Reserve

Python Multiple Attachments.....6/48 SPAS.......................................8/64 Stakeout...................................4/32 MP5K....................................30/240 AK74u...................................30/240 M14.......................................20/160 M16.......................................30/240 Famas...................................30/240 AUG......................................30/240 HK21.....................................30/240 M60.....................................100/300 L96A1........................................5/40 WA2000....................................6/48 Grim Reaper..............................4/12 M72 LAW....................................1/1 China Lake..................................2/2 Crossbow Explosive Tip................1/4 Ballistic Knife...............................1/1 MAC11 Dual Wield..............20 20/320 Famas Extended Mags............45/360 PM63......................................20/160 Skorpion..................................20/160
 * Makarov Dual Wield..............88/128
 * Skorpion Dual Wield..........20 20/320
 * HS-10B....................................4/32
 * Famas Flamethrower..............30/90
 * Python Dual Wield...................6 6/56


 * In the cases of Dual Wield guns, divide the reserve magazine amount by 2 to get the reserve magazine amount for the regular version.


 * This is called the HS-10B because of the folding carrying handle, as shown here:

http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh26-e.htm

General_Awesomo 16:04, September 3, 2010 (UTC)General_Awesomo
 * Originally, the Famas with no attachment has 30/240. I guess putting the Flamethrower attachment on the Famas takes away 150 rounds from your reserve for balance. Maybe all Assault Rifles will be like this, or maybe the Famas is the only exception.


 * No, that's the max ammo carried. Max ammo is given to you when you get a gun in the Gun Game. The FAMAS flamethrower's ammo count is the starting ammo count. 19:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia
"In the multiplayer trailers, on most maps a number "2" was shown on most of the place. The number "2" might be a reference to Modern Warfare 2 (since the style is similar) or the fact that Call of Duty: Black Ops is a sequel to Call of Duty: World at War ." - I think this is stupid. BRX 08:05, September 3, 2010 (UTC)BRX

I think he means the number at the bottom left. That denotes what place you are in.AdvancedRookie 08:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I...I...you have have to be kidding me. That is the dumbest trivia I've ever seen on this wiki, and I've seen a lot. Darkman 4 08:11, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think my eyes threw up. 19:33, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

........I have no comment.

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hahaha Ash, and dittos Dark! Yea this what happens when most grade and middle school kids find a wiki. They can't help but add the most ridiculous ideas you can imagine. --LOST-The Cartographer 15:48, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

New SMG (or at least not posted), PM63 seen at 1:37:

http://g4tv.com/videos/48452/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Wager-Match-Gameplay-Video/

Ferrariguy1000 03:05, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

^From me: PM63 SMG is confirmed. Also MPL SMG's weapon model(akimbo) and its killfeed icon is visible. So it's confirmed.

http://g4tv.com/videos/48466/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Multiplayer-Maps/

^Valkyrie rockets - you have two of them. Camos on shotguns(in this case Spas(but it's old ) Flamethrower vs Second chance:D New map: CRACKED Also some rocket taking SPy plane down...Imo it's Sam KS.

http://g4tv.com/videos/48464/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Customization-Commentary-/ ^create-a-class with commentary ^all perks (Hackers is new bombsquad now) ^all lethal (grenade, semtex and tomahawk)and tactical grenades(willy*1 - smoke, nova gas*2 - "impair movement, blur vision and cause damage over time", flahbang*2 - blinds and deafs target + stuns equipment and turrets/ Concussion*2 - "slow and disorient target + stuns equip. and turrets" and DECOY*2 (simulate gunfire and radar indicators) ^equipment ^ks + commentary(Rolling Thunder - carpet bomber) ^some emblems and more.

Also some questions: anybody have "other than AR and Pistol" weapon screen form C-a-C? I think that G11 is SMG in-game(because it's shown, it's not "classified" Also : What about Strela? Morihaus 13:22, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Amount of player profiles
I know I already asked this, but now with the new information of september 1st, maybe I can get a more accurate answer, instead of a thought. Does anyone know if you'll be able to have more then one profile? Like in CoD 4 and WaW? And not one like MW2? I think it will be one, cause of steam, but still! PS: Anyone knows a link to the multiplayer reveil? Jupitus 14:52, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Maps gameplay
G4TV is showing the 5 maps in action, it also shows the G11 and Flamethrower attachment in action. And a custom red dot. <3 http://g4tv.com/videos/48466/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Multiplayer-Maps/ XDEATHMAN4aP90x 14:56, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

ASP shown, more Dragunov and Olympia.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/multiplayer-event-call-of/703995?type=flv

ASP pistol shown in the beginning. 7 round magazine, 56 rounds in reserve.

More footage of the Dragunov. Looks like it can't OHK in the stomach.

Footage of the Olympia shotgun. 2 shells, 18 shells in reserve.

General_Awesomo 18:12, September 3, 2010 (UTC) General_Awesomo

Questions. Answer needed(:D)
1st. Where is Strela. I know it was said somewhere(liveblog?) that's in the game. 2st. The classified AR = G11 (common sense) BUT.... Why they said it's classified and top secret and all and they show it to ...idk exactly...gamestop? It's very similar to P90(terms of Rof, Shape, Big Magazine and so on.

My idea: It's SMG(similar way to AK74u is AR in real world and in-game is SMG) What's your opinions? Also : Anybody has video/screenshot/anything about other weapons "confirmed" in create-a-class menu? Like Launchers/SRs/SMGs etc. It could be helpful.

EDIT: See the videos in the "Trivia" section on Discussion page - more info for sb to write it down and call it a history.:DMorihaus 18:35, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * The G11 is burst fire, so it's very likely to be an AR. Darkman 4 18:42, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * the G11 is huge, and it works with compressed air. its more similar to ARs than to SMGs Alex dlc 18:57, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ok. But in the ARs Section is one "classified" position so this last Ar "shouldn't" be show for us(as a name suggests) But G11 is clearly visible. So what's the point of "classifying it" if we can see it. I'd need "SMG Create-a-Class Lobby" Screenshot/liveblog/video would be a proof for me:D I don't wanna be any heretic, It's only my logic:dMorihaus 19:00, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Strela is in Russian (and most Slavic countries) Arrow, so it could be a sniper. BRX 19:19, September 3, 2010 (UTC)BRX

Strela Land-to-Air Rocket Launcher, to be precise:d Morihaus 19:31, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Bad Perks linking
In the perks section, perk Ghost is linked to Simon Ghost Riley and Warlord is linked to some dude's callsign. It's not a big thing, although it should be edited.

mpl, ithaca, camos...
lets see, theres a few things i wanted to say. the MPL should be confirmed even if all we saw was a killfeed icon. the Ithaca shotgun is way past confirmed. its been seen in several videos already, so i dont know why its been taken off. then, you could add the list of gun camos that was provided my MorganJEast on twitter. she went to the black ops event and wrote it all down. and has anyone noticed you can revive players? and the smoke nade is called willy pete, this should be added in the article Alex dlc 18:49, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * The ithaca is called the Stakeout in-game. YuriKaslov 19:08, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

I don;y want to be a selfish bastard but I have some akimbo MPL in action(^btw. ty Alex, it wasn't Tec9 deriative:d) and more in Trivia Article(some mess:/)on Disc. page. Shotgun camo/Flamethrower/C-a-C w/ a Commentary and so on and so on... . Also thanks to Ferrariguy for PM63 confirmation.:d

Ithaca's name in-game it's Ithaca or Stakeout? 'coz I saw both(http://g4tv.com/videos/48438/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Wager-Match-Trailer/ - "Ithaca" at )0:37(8)...weird...

What about Strela? Was it sighted?Morihaus 19:06, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

the ithaca is called stakeout in game? then how come we saw "ithaca" in the game? Alex dlc 19:20, September 3, 2010 (UTC)


 * We've seen both. I think the must have called it one, recorded it, then decided to change the name. We'll see on the 11th. NZ Richtofen.png Doc.   Richtofen  19:21, September 3, 2010 (UTC)
 * alright then. the pm63 is deffinatly confirmed. can some one tell me where the rumored mpl icon apears? thanx Alex dlc 19:30, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

^Alex, I showed you it before:J But for now : http://g4tv.com/videos/48452/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops-Wager-Match-Gameplay-Video/ ~2:09-2:14(with akimbo) I hope I've helped:d Morihaus 19:39, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

Recap
Not sure if this has already been posted but here is a good recap that covers most things:

Part 1:http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/09/02/multiplayer-reveal-recap-part-1-cod-points-combat-training-and-wager-matches/ Part 2:http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/09/02/multiplayer-reveal-recap-part-2-weapons-killstreaks-and-perks/

19:34, September 3, 2010 (UTC)

LMG's and Snipers
Has anyone actually seen the LMG or Sniper page in the Create a Class? because it will make me kinda sad if there is only three weapons in both of those categories.