Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

Brutal like "No Russian"
Apparently Treyarch is adding some kind of a more brutal version of "No Russian" to keep reality intact in the game. I think we should add the fact that something like no russian into the Black Ops page. link GunsSwordsFlames 02:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)GunsSwordsFlames


 * He's talking about the overall mood of the game, not a specific level. Darkman 4 20:19, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Swimming:
Guy's, HipHopgamer did an interview with Josh Olin, and Olin confirmed you can swim in singleplayer, but not multiplayer.Can someone add this.Link here, XDEATHMAN4aP90x 16:46, August 25, 2010 (UTC)xDEATHMAN4aP90x

Map markings in multiplayer levels?
I looked over the multiplayer teaser again just a few minutes ago and notice some grid markings on the map (B2, B3, C3) - this leads me to believe that this could be used to call out certain parts of the map to teammates. If I'm not the only one seeing this, perhaps that should be added to the multiplayer section. TheAxis.42 10:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

References?
Who editted the page to make the references be all over, can somebody fix this, because I sure don't know how to. XDEATHMAN4aP90x 20:08, August 22, 2010 (UTC)xDEATHMAN4aP90x

Levels in Vietnam
In the Vietnam article, it states that there are 3 confirmed missions set in Vietnam. This article says that we know of only 4 missions so far, and WMD is in Siberia, and Payback is in Laos. Is this a mistake, then? SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 01:04, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a mistake on our part. I'll fix it. Darkman 4 03:53, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * By the way, WMD is in The Ural Mountains in Russia, not Siberia. 08:44, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually there are 2 Missions in Vietnam, Payback is set in Laos. Sgt.Frank Woods 10:37, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

More info from GamesCom
During the first preview of Black Ops, viewers noticed that the normal yellow star marker wasn't on. This time, Treyarch have removed it from Black Ops. Olin believes that there still will be on-screen instructions in the game but you will have to clear out the area or follow your group to complete a task. 07:48, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It's just going to be words or a phrase with a dot underneath that will help you,no stars.Poop copter 16:24, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Galil ARM Proof (with dedication to Darkman 4 )


Confirmed? For me it's obvious:D Morihaus 08:30, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Added RGD-33 Proof.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RGD-33_grenade Russian soldier is carrying 2 RGD-33 grenades. Confirmed? About shotgun: idk which model is it but it's similar to Bekas M more than to Mossberg 500 and so. (forend shape is a key to recognize shotgun) http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh46-e.htm Morihaus 08:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like a Galil to me, but I'd wait or a clearer image. . 10:31, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, it does look like a Galil now. 10:38, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Nicely done. As for the Shotgun, I agree, especially as it makes more sense for a Russian shotgun to be in the hands of a Russian. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 01:47, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

And what ? Russians with Tavors and FN FALs in MW2, Romanian WASR-2 in BO.... Just because russians are holding it doesnt mean its russian. Oh, and shotgun seems like China Lake Gl to me.

Meh, fair enough. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 13:32, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Ammo Counter
Maybe it should be pointed out that the Ammo Counter in Multiplayer Teaser uses numbers for ammo in the magazine also, not small lines like CoD4, WaW and MW2. BRX 10:56, August 19, 2010 (UTC)BRX

Nice Catch! That will make things a bit easier when playing now. 16:55, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Bling?
Do we know if bling is returningDarth smeg02 21:46, August 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * it looks like it will, as "AUG multiple attachments" can be found in the WMD E3 video and I think "multiple attachments" appears in the MP trailer. Darkman 4 21:54, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

ThanksDarth smeg02 22:01, August 19, 2010 (UTC)

Black Ops Multiplayer info
Posted by NateRios430 on Jun 13, 2010 in Rumours | 91 commentsAs all of our readers know, one of the most highly anticipated features in the upcoming Treyarch title, Call of Duty: Black Ops, is the Multiplayer aspect of the game. To date, very little information has been released about the game’s multiplayer features and gamers have been anxiously awaiting news. We may, and I repeat, we may have found that long-awaited update.

WoodysGamertag, one of the hosts of Painkiller Already, a popular gaming podcast focusing on first-person-shooter titles, received an insider tip about Black Ops’ multiplayer mode. WoodysGamertag said that while he can not vouch completely for his sources credibility, he says his source “…is an industry insider. I was skeptical until we traded emails. It’s very difficult to spoof your domain name.”

So, without further ado, here is the intel that he received…

Perks

 * Players may chose two perks and based on those choices, a third perk is chosen for you.
 * Commando has been removed.
 * One Man Army has been removed.
 * Scavenger no longer replenishes equipment (i.e. claymores, C4, etc).
 * Cold Blooded and Juggernaut are part of an armor system that the player wears.

Killstreaks

 * At this point, the highest killstreak reward is for 15 kills
 * Killstreak rewards will not count towards your next killstreak. For example: if you receive a 5-killstreak reward, the kills gained by that killstreak will not move you towards your next killstreak reward. Killstreak rewards may only be earned through your main weapons.
 * Pavelow will return as a killstreak, although it has a feature unique to Black Ops.
 * UAV will return as a killstreak.
 * In addition to the Pavelow, there will be two other types of helicopters earned as killstreaks.
 * There is no Emergency Airdrop, but there is a Care Package killstreak reward.
 * The SR-71 Blackbird will be available as a killstreak reward.
 * Tactical Nuke will not be returning.

Weapons

 * The FAMAS will return, but not in a 3-round burst firing capacity. It will be fully automatic.
 * There will be no gun from the M4 family.
 * The M16 will return, still as a high-powered, high-accuracy weapon.
 * The tactical knife is no longer available, while a new knife will be available in it’s place: the ballistic knife. A ballistic knife has a detachable, spring-loaded blade designed to be fired a distance of approx. 6 meters at a rate of 39 MPH (63 km/h).
 * The claymore is classified as equipment, thus the Scavenger perk will not replenish it.
 * Grenades are not classified as equipment and will be replenished by Scavenger.

New, confirmed guns include:
Additionally, players will be able to bypass the Crouch position and go directly from Sprint to Prone. In effect, players will be able to sprint and drop flat onto their belly without having to crouch first.
 * SIG commando – Assault Rifle
 * RPK – Light Machine Gun
 * Skorpion – Submachine Gun
 * PSG1 – Semi-auto Sniper Rifle
 * MAC11 – Machine Pistol

That is all of the intelligence that we have so far, and of course it must be taken with a grain of salt. Modern Warfare 2 gamers can remember back to a similar article being posted months before the game’s November release chock-full of misinformation.

Time will tell if this news is true, but with E3 less than 24 hours away, be certain to check out our live-blog for continuing updates throughout the entire E3 expo. There is sure to be plenty of great gaming news and, of course, the highly-anticipated Black Ops info!
 * uh, thanks for the copy and paste? Darkman 4 03:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry dude, this has been posted on the wiki, like 4 time already, we all know who Woodysgamertag is. Everyone knows OMA and Commando will not be returning. Ya came on it late. Maj. Boner 04:41, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

weapons
assult rifle

ar-15

l85

sniper

l96aw

smg

mini uzi

mp5

grenade

rgd-33

shotgun

morihus

That has to be the most poorly designed and incompltete list I have seen yet. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 02:40, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't get the point of this either. Darkman 4 03:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^^^ Agreed. Maj. Boner 04:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

^^why sb did use my name(mispelled wrong :/)btw. add rgd-33 and Galil ARM. Morihaus 06:01, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * wow, this was pointless, incorrect, and just dumb. cant posts like this be erased? Alex dlc 12:49, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I agree, but they can't be deleted. 12:51, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * These Weapons I found looking on bos sitesCoD1 Weapon PPSh.pngSignatureSpecialOpsGenralMinigun.pngRaygunprofile.png 18:39, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

KS-23 and Makarov pistol?
One of the summaries from today's press at Gamescom says that there's going to be a KS-23 shotgun and Makarov pistol in the game. Should we add those to our weapons page, or wait until we have a few screenshots? Darkman 4 03:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I'd wait until we get some screenshots. Then again, we have the G11 and China Lake GL on the page. (BTW, you misspelled "add" like "ass." :P) Chief z 04:35, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Their are screenshots of russian soldiers with a unidentified pump action shotgun with a wood, curved stock. It would make sense because russia has never had a offical Russian shotgun in a cod game, always some american shotty. Maj. Boner 04:45, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Leaked SP gameplay:D
http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1617

crappy video,but some new info is present:

04;16 - shotgun icon - KS-23 04:28 - AK-47 icon 04:41 - C4 or Semtex in "C4 mode" 11:11 - FP View of AK47:D 11:49 - Galil ARM :D Eh...Confirmed? 12:03 - KS-23 Notice foresight and overall size. 12:40 - icon of LMG with bipod : RP-46(PK ancestor) Morihaus 06:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * I think the shotgun icon at the start is the SPAS-12. Also, the AK looks way better than the screenshots made it out to be. Darkman 4 06:52, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

About SPAS: It looks like he picked this shotgun and later used it. He didn't pick any shotguns until his shotty appeared:d In conclusion he picked KS-23.:D btw. confirm RP-46, IMI Galil ARM, KS-23 and RGD-33 Handgrenade. Morihaus 07:08, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not adding the RP-46 because the footage is a bit too grainy to make out what it is, but if there is higher quality footage showing it, then it'll be put up. The RGD-33 isn't being added yet because there have been multiple cases of items appearing on a character model but not actually being used in-game (like how the MW2 Ghillie Suit model has a M1911, but it is never used). Darkman 4 07:20, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Agreed:D Morihaus 08:54, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

So the Galil is confirmed, Ak has a better skin, some kind of RPK-type machine gun, and 15 mintues to drule at! Maj. Boner 14:30, August 20, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it just me or do I keep seeing the soldier with the DG-2 from the Der Riese promo picture in the background at some point? 11:47, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * i see it too, its just a watermark added for the callofdutyzombies site Alex dlc 14:16, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * check out this article that reviews some stuff but also gives a new look at the previously mentioned human shield and others, in single player http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/8/19/gamescom_2010_explosive_call_of/
 * check out this article that reviews some stuff but also gives a new look at the previously mentioned human shield and others, in single player http://www.el33tonline.com/past/2010/8/19/gamescom_2010_explosive_call_of/


 * A better quality version is available here, though it only shows part of the screen. --Sentinel 101 17:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Actually, nevermind. Another user already posted it below, but I hadn't seen that before. --Sentinel 101 17:30, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Callsigns
We should put in MP that something like callsigns (big pic, small emblem) appears in Black Ops. BRX 09:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)BRX

unknown shotgun
im sure you have all seen the image with the shotgun on the guys back. its clearly a pump action shotgun with a wooden stock, but which one? i think its probably one of these 5: mossberg 500, winchester 1200, franchi 720, bekas m12, or remington 870. what do you guys think? Alex dlc 12:53, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

The winchester 1200 doesnt look like that so it cant.Sgt Sprinkles 13:22, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

nevermind guys, its the KS-23 for sure! i think it can now be added to the weapons list Alex dlc 13:44, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

Easter Egg weapons?
Do you guys think Easter Egg weapons like the Ray Gun from CoD5 will be present in Call of duty Black Ops? Poop copter 14:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

That would be cool, but also brings up another question. How do people find easter eggs like that? How could someone just jump into those puddles and stay long enough to get the ray gun? How could he know? 14:43, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I don't know how they find it,but you can always search youtube! lol Poop copter 14:50, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I'm guessing they search and search and search x50 the game files till they find a code for this. Then they do it, get it and tada. Its the MW2 Elevators I wonder how they find. JayWarS1903 16:57, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

The ray gun easter egg in COD WaW is most likly one of the developers told a friend and then they told a friend until eventually someone put it up on YouTube and then anyone can find out. I agree with JayWar those elevators are hard to do when you know where they are let alone when you don't.

Urth40 20:50, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

I found the way to get the ray gun in a cheat book! lol Matt of the wastes 20:50, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Live Interview was EPIC FAIL...
^I've just seen this crappy interview with Olin and Hank and it was booooring as hell....Maybe part with 25 killstreak : Chuck Norris Invasion was funny...A bit....Morihaus 16:36, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're going to dodge every MP question you ask until September 1st, and no one seems to care about the campaign, so what did you expect? 16:42, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
 * they are telling us stuff we already know
 * they are telling us stuff we already know

Yeh they said that there mp trailer on Sep 1st will make people say, "Holy Shi*" Must be sommething big??? 20:38, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

''I hope it's something big. Maybe some Zombies?IIID Empire, 14:16, Aug.20,10''

Selective Fire Weapons
In the various teasers, trailers and playthroughts that have been released, there have been a few weapons shown that fire fully automatically in Black Ops, but in other titles had semi or burst fire capabilites. I wonder if in create a class 2.0 there will be an option to change the fire mode on certian weapons.

(JayPeezey 04:22, August 21, 2010 (UTC))


 * Before CoD 3, on the PC you could do that by hitting the M button. YuriKaslov 04:25, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I miss the those selective fire days. Now it would actually be useful to have the option. --LOST-The Cartographer 07:01, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Leak in HD!!!!!xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKtnJkjxhog&feature=player_embedded

03:10-11 - KS-23 icon.

03:00 - unknown revolver(?!!!!!) with silencer(python with silencer??:D) Link: Real life Python with silencer

http://www.leelofland.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/357colt-python.jpg

but maybe it's Nagant M1895 with suppressor attached(it was used in RL by KGB)

04:07-08 - unknown LMG with bipod(RPD/PKM/RPK?[rather this]))

09:00 - ger.Armbrust Varabler Zoom - eng.Crossbow with variable zoom.(+icon) - Variable Zoom as attachment?

09:38 - Makarov icon and model

09:45 - RPK(without 74:D)icon

10:33 -ballistic knife in action(+later replenish of it)

btw. so-called RP-46 is just blurred RPK.:D Morihaus 15:11, August 21, 2010 (UTC)


 * Has anyone noticed Weaver's wearing an eyepatch now?--Sentinel 101 17:37, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

I noticed it too:P. Maybe they want to add him "veteran level kick-ass" look?xD

EDIT:Important!!!! I've also noticed sth in the "unknown revolver/handgun thing with silencer"...It's morphing from pistol to pistol w/ silencer and then to revolver(with silencer) that looks more like single-action ol' colt rather than double-action(notice grip length and shape)..really, really weird...:? Morihaus 17:57, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Ability to fight while gibbed.
In one of the videos of the Treyarch community, they show that soldiers could still fight while "missing an arm". Some of the Treyarch community were showing how people could reload a handgun with one hand. Anyone else think that might be a feature? YuriKaslov 20:51, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It would be really stupid, and unrealistic if it where a feature. If you're missing an arm you would quickly start bleeding to death, and plus there would be the shock too. MacMillan said it best "Nice Shot. I think you blew off his arm. Shock and blood loss will do the rest." 21:02, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think Yuri has a point. However who's to say you lose an arm? all you need is a broken, or mangled one to cause you to use one arm in combat. Maybe at some point your arm is severely wounded, and your only choice is to fight with one hand? It's seems highly probable to me. --LOST-The Cartographer 21:07, August 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't think it'd be like how Zakhaev got his arm torn off anyway. It's very easy to gib people in WaW, so why not? YuriKaslov 21:10, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

It said "missing an arm" so i thought it'd be more like how Zakhaev lost his arm, if the character is using one arm because it was injured then that would make more sense. 21:19, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

^ "missing an arm" could also mean that soldier simply cannot use his second arm at the moment of reloading the pistol (carrying sth etc.)not literally "missing an arm":D Morihaus 21:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

General, Zakhaev was shot by a speeding 50 cal bullet that goes by faster then the speed of sound, then was shot in the body or head, then the energy just TORE open his arm and the wind and hitting the ground helped it come off, Yeah, He'd be pretty shocked, but he lived, plus, he was in Chernobyl, where a nucleur disaster went off, with radition, So, you gotta think, with all THOSE factors, I'd like my arm be torn off just by a M40 or AMW, Imran was tough, he got over it, and it is possible, I mean, I'd love that, I mean, who doesn't love the armless dude that can put a whole mag in his gun in less then 30 secs? i'd take me around 2 hours to reload with one hand, but it very possible, there are soldiers who got a arm or leg blown off, and just pull out a pistol and just shoot, think of Last stand or Second chance, you can be shot in the neck ,and somewhat survive. Specialist Grundy 22:21, August 21, 2010 (UTC) I know! Maybe, if one arm is gibbed, it acts like a last stand, except instead of a pistol, and going down on the floor, you use a knife and can move normally for 10 seconds only able to use your knife. Huh? Huh? JayWarS1903 17:00, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * Jut because it happens in a game doesn't mean it's the same in real life Grundy. You do know that even if you were hit in the arm or the leg with a .50 cal round you'd still likely die from the kinetic energy wave smashing into the rest of your body. --LOST-The Cartographer 00:06, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Maybe theres a part in the campaign where the player loosses an arm and they have to fihgt with the other? Hunter Steven 01:41, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

Well IRL, it takes a few minutes after one loses a leg from the mid thigh, so probably it is technically possible to survive a minute without an arm. But it would take a very strong person to handle that kind of pain while firing a gun at the same time. 98.207.163.254 02:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

WA2000 confirmed?
http://callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=263014&sid=b07dcce5b450dcb6e095cc4e1c22dc6f#

Makarov, KS-23 are already on the list because of it(and the're confirmed). Why not to add WA2000?

Also this "only mods can edit BO article rule" is pretty annoying for me. I want to add some confirmed and legit news but I can't and mods don't appear frequently:/ Said.:P Morihaus 21:29, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Save it, Keep it till it is comfirmed or in the game, I mean, we do not want a 'nam mw2, the one thing that made mw2 suck, is that we knew everything 'bout it. Specialist Grundy 22:24, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

No, we haven't seen it in gameplay, so it doesn't go in the article. 02:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

I believe it is http://callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=263014&sid=b07dcce5b450dcb6e095cc4e1c22dc6f# Omnicube1 00:45, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

Clan tags on the guns?
If you notice the M16 (First gun on the trailer) and you look at the back of it, theres clan tags, the same as the owner, which his name is seen when he kills someone, Does this mean we get to really MAKE our own gun? Making tags,scopes and R dots? And perhaps camo? I mean,Do we get to go rambo all out? Clan tags on our buttstocks, custom bullets, scopes, and I think it was comfirm that cold blooded and Juggernaut are like a suit, Meaning this will be bad-ass already? Specialist Grundy 22:34, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Where have you been for the past few weeks? This has been known for a long time, it's a part of Create a Class 2.0 Sgt.Frank Woods 22:56, August 21, 2010 (UTC)

Besides, that ain't M16, but Commando. BRX 23:26, August 21, 2010 (UTC)BRX


 * We got this about 2 weeks ago. 02:18, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

''How come, When I just notice something, someone says "Where have you been for the past few weeks?" but when someone else noticed something like the "swimming feature" that has been talked about like, 3 times already, No one comments on it, or anything? and plus, Sgt.Frank, for the past 3 or 4 weeks I've been in school. I have a life Ya'know. I'm not some lonely dude in his mom's basement playing cod. Specialist Grundy 20:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC)''

Commando will appear a lot
I have found the Commando will appear a lot in the story. I think this becuase in 1966 the army bought 2,815 Commandos, and it was used a lot by SOG. Maj. Boner 01:35, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * Umm okay? --LOST-The Cartographer 20:33, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

News
The first entry under the news section states The twitter update really stated the Nazi maps would be included in Hardened and Prestige editions of the game. It doesn't guarantee Zombie co-op though it does suggest it. I believe this should be changed for clarity in case Activision is trying to mislead us. Kingartie 21:04, August 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Nazi Zombies has been confirmed to be in Black Ops, following a Twitter update from jd_2020. http://twitter.com/jd_2020"

Old news, buddy. Nice try though.IIID Empire 14:07, Aug.22,10

enough with the nazi zombies thing!! the zombies were only nazis because WAW was in WW2. not all zombies are nazis, black ops can have zombies but they dont have to be nazi. Alex dlc 13:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

YEAH, down with zombie racism, just because they're undead doesnt mean they should be discriminated against! :3 Ouroboros Omega 01:37, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Who knows, they might be hippie zombies now, or just russian zombies Alex dlc 10:36, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

or even former-nazi zombies, just because they used to be nazis doesnt mean they still are now that they are undead. Ouroboros Omega 13:24, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

shotgun
How come the ks23 shotgun has been deleted because it is that shotgun 82.1.234.136 00:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

shotgun
How come the ks23 shotgun has been deleted because it is that shotgun 82.1.234.136 00:59, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Gameplay
In the leaked gameplay of WMD i saw a npc use the ballistic knife and I you can choose the crossbow fire mode during battle because he goes from regular bolt to explosive.Darth smeg02 02:44, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Crossbow
In the leaked WMD footage when the person fires the crossbow the ammo counter counts down as if all the arrows are in one magazine.( when the person shoots the counter goes from 20 to 19)Hunter Steven 05:53, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Have ever seen a semi-automatic crossbow? You can only load one at a time as far as we know. General Geers 02:52, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I know its semi-auto what I'm talking about is the counter. Its like all the arrows are in one magazine.Hunter Steven 05:39, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

well if you look under the crossbow you can see the quiver which is bolted onto the bow so technically, yes, the bolts are all in one magazine :) Serialkiller616 22:43, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Question
Why Galil ARM and KS-23 were deleted? By who? ~They were confirmed -_- ...Morihaus 08:11, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Cause until Black Ops is released, we aren't going to make any speculated articles. Mainly when it comes to weapons, as the weapon name might change in game, etc. 12:35, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * but it has been confirmed to be called KS-23 in the game. theres a screenshot of it and you can pick it up. this is not speculation, its 100% proof. http://blackops.digitalwarfare247.com/images/weapons/shotguns/ks-23/ks-23-pickup-confirmation-large.jpg Alex dlc 13:32, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * oh, and why is the G11 still in the article? it hasent been seen in gameplay or anything. Alex dlc 13:38, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * Copyright violation. We had a problem with copyright infringement with leaked MW2 information, Activision alerted Wikia staff. We're not letting that happen again. 14:03, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * well, allright, makes sense. but i still think the G11 has few reasons for being on the article. Alex dlc 14:07, August 23, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was confirmed in a GKNOVA6 thing, GKNOVA6 is affiliated with Treyarch. 14:18, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * wasnt the flamethrower also mentioned in that gknova6 thing? and one last thing, the KS-23 is also clearly visible on one of the newest screenshots released. im pretty sure those screenshots were not leaked, so those would proove the ks-23 is in the game even if the leaked videos cant be used as proof Alex dlc 14:25, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

^good point. KS-23/Makarov/WA2000 were legally confirmed by guy from callofduty.de.....(Makarov link) Also Galil was confirmed by me(:D) because of "Prestige Edition Trailer" not any of these leaks.....To sum up, KS-23/Galil should return(Makarov is still there). And I agree with "Wiki Rulers Council" to not add any new info based on any leaks. But there is also a little hole in this way of thinking...:d I mean not to confirm officially...but on a Discussion Page - free-talking cannot be censored IMO. btw.With all of this censorship and licking Activision's ### I feel like I'm in PRP(PRL) or Soviet Union...My toleration of Kotick's and Activision's plans of supreme power and their $-baths has borders...If they break I won't buy any of their games. I'll pirate them:<!!! Morihaus 14:37, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
 * I readded the Galil and KS-23, but did not reference the leaked content nor did I make a page for them. Once we get legit in-game shots of those guns the pages will be remade. Darkman 4 01:07, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

SAS weapons
There has been a lot of speculation that there will be an SAS mission. So I was thinking about what weapons there might be in that mission. I was thinking that the starting weapons would probably be something like the MP5 and the Walther PPK. What do you guys think? --

I think that there will be but there just not tellin us till the game 15:21, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why?!?
Why is everybody always talking about Black Ops?   Diante  grassstain     19:17, August 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why are you even asking that and because its cod black ops talk page?Butterball9 00:15, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

Lol? Why would you even ask that!

It's because this is the new CoD game coming out. It's BIG. --Callofduty4 (Talk) 13:19, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Multiplayer section.
Just wanted to point out that the killstreak Arch Angel is still written as Ark Angel in the multiplayer section. Can anyone change this? Ouroboros Omega 01:39, August 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Fixed. Sorry about that; I thought there was only one time the Arch Angel was mentioned on the page. Darkman 4 06:02, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

This quote
Where it has been confirmed that the guy from the trailer is actually Franks Woods? That balded guy from the Insight should be the guy to say that? Not Woods?

"We live in a world where seeing is not believing." — Frank Woods in the world premier trailer

(Ever121 20:45, August 24, 2010 (UTC))


 * It sounds like Woods, therefore we label it as Woods. 01:34, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * So if it sounds like Hitler it should be Hitler? Really you can just write it down and call it a quote, but that doesn't make it the truth. (Ever121 06:56, August 25, 2010 (UTC))
 * Thats not woods this is woods
 * Mr. Baldy is Hudson. Don't you guys know who Frank Woods is yet? Sgt.Frank Woods 13:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * No ofcourse we know who Woods is trololo, obviously :') But it says on the page that it is Woods who say the famous quote of "We live in a world where seeing is not    believing". How stupid is that, nothing has been confirmed and it is most likely Mr. Baldy who says that (you call him Hudson, I think it's Hudson to but we can't be sure yet). (86.82.8.96 12:28, August 29, 2010 (UTC))
 * Mr. Baldy is Hudson. Don't you guys know who Frank Woods is yet? Sgt.Frank Woods 13:11, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * No ofcourse we know who Woods is trololo, obviously :') But it says on the page that it is Woods who say the famous quote of "We live in a world where seeing is not    believing". How stupid is that, nothing has been confirmed and it is most likely Mr. Baldy who says that (you call him Hudson, I think it's Hudson to but we can't be sure yet). (86.82.8.96 12:28, August 29, 2010 (UTC))
 * No ofcourse we know who Woods is trololo, obviously :') But it says on the page that it is Woods who say the famous quote of "We live in a world where seeing is not    believing". How stupid is that, nothing has been confirmed and it is most likely Mr. Baldy who says that (you call him Hudson, I think it's Hudson to but we can't be sure yet). (86.82.8.96 12:28, August 29, 2010 (UTC))



Vehicles
Should we add an "Ingame Vehicles" section? We know there's a Huey, a Hive and a Chinook so far and we might see some ground vehicles on September 1st. General Geers 02:58, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Unless most of them were drivable, I don't think so. Really, they're just props right now and don't warrant a section for itself since the player doesn't interact with them, aside from the Hind. However, what you can do is start the Black Ops vehicle table. I've already started a list and you can build off of that. Chief z 03:14, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

Retarded-ass grammar.
'UAV ball'? Seriously? UAV stands for Unmanned Aerial Vehicle, so unless it's a Fallout 3-type Sputnik-bot, then someone needs to change that to 'motion sensor', 'motion mine', or 'sensor ball', because that is an absolutely terrible mangling of the English language. YuriKaslov 07:10, August 25, 2010 (UTC)


 * Fixed. "Retarded-ass grammar" was a perfect description for that. --Callofduty4 (Talk) 13:19, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why did someone put UAV ball? That's just stupid. 13:21, August 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * New leaked gameplay from Gamescom.
 * New leaked gameplay from Gamescom.
 * New leaked gameplay from Gamescom.

Sniper Zoom
It says "Click RS to zoom.

That's a crossbow, not a sniper.


 * It could be for the sniper rifles too, but we don't know that. . 20:38, August 25, 2010 (UTC)

This is generic rangefinger sniper scope. It can be attached to any weapon: battle rifle, crossbow, pistol, etc. 05:41, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

we do know that snipers will also have variable zoom. you can see it being done on a dragunov in the trailer for the RC car. so both snipers and crossbows will have variable zoom. Alex dlc 09:38, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

World War 2 in Black ops
I was on G4.com,and i was looking at info on the game. In the description it said some missions will take place in WW2. see it here: Cpt. RileyLet's Talk 20:09, August 26, 2010 (UTC)

It could possibly be flashbacks. 18:26, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think G4 has made a mistake, as all of the interview and pre-release info we know indicates that Treyarch has retired WWII. Darkman 4 20:19, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

New information at Gamescon
Here's a Josh Olin interview by Machinima: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NrGp2f_ANU&feature=sub
 * Dive to prone
 * Zombies is conformed
 * World at War zombies maps coming back in the Black Ops engine
 * And he says we wont be expecting what is going to be in multiplayer, hmmm I wonder. Maj. Boner 02:47, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

The dive to prone doesn't let you use your weapons just wanted to sayButterball9 16:11, August 27, 2010 (UTC)

waw zombie maps
will the old zombie maps have the new weapons? 13:05, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

No idea :) Id rather see the old ww2 weapons brought into black ops and updated. A Lonely Nomad 13:06, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

i think diffrent im gettin hardened and i have all waw maps so i want new guns,perks etc. 13:10, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Got a question about this quote
"Dead". - Mason in "Victor Charlie" when Reznov asks him where Swift is.

The question is, what was the source of this quote? Did you guys find a video or something? Can you gimme a link to it aswell? xD Sgt.Frank Woods 13:17, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

I believe it was written in one of the interviews....Which one precisely....IDK:d Morihaus 14:04, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wii news
I was at the local Gamestop store, trying to get prices, when I just decided to ask a clerk some things about Black Ops. When asked about Multiplayer on the Wii, the guy said there will be none. HUH?! He said the only thing in the way of MP for the Wii would be sqaudmate mode for campaign and Zombies, which I assume will be for the Wii.

I don't know where he got it from, but is there anywhere where there is that info AND is confirmed by Treyarch?

19:59, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Augh, There is no multiplayer symbol on the box,The owners said it'll blow us away, that'll blow me AWAY, and zombies, augh, I can't stand the word "Zombies" without puking... Sick and terrible puking reply guy- Specialist Grundy 20:16, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Galil and G11
We know they were planned to be in the game, but we haven't actually seen them in-game so why do we have them listed? Once we know that they are for-sure in the game, we'd make articles, we don't have articles, so why do we list them? I say we just add notes saying "Not confirmed to be in final production of game" or something to that effect. -- Good editing! Darthkenobi0(talk) 21:37, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

The galil was seen ingame in the prestige edition trailer.Sgt Sprinkles 21:39, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * They're on the page because we have evidence that they exist, but either no in-game screenshot (in the case of the GKNOVA confirmed guns) or a very small one (in the case of the Gali). Simply put; we have enough content to confirm they will be in the game, but not enough to make a decent article about it. Darkman 4 21:47, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, thanks Darkman. -- Good editing! Darthkenobi0(talk) 21:55, August 28, 2010 (UTC)

Some characters are returning
characters from the rest of the call of duty franchise are returning,I.e cpt. price or GazButterball9 22:45, August 28, 2010 (UTC)


 * I call bullshitz, 'cause:

BUT -- Good editing! Darthkenobi0(talk) 22:50, August 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gaz is likely very young during the Cold War
 * Captain Price may be...
 * You have no proof, and it wouldn't make sense for Treyarch to bring back IW characters in a barely related game (only relation is "KEWL ELITE GUISE KILL BAD NOOBY DOODS")

Reznov retruns in single player! Jupitus 13:09, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yes it was i read about it Butterball9 02:36, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Techinally speaking guys, Treyarch DID infact make a Infinity ward game, COD 4: MWR Wii, but besides the point, They could if they want too, It'd make Infinty Ward pissed and want to make like mw3 even bigger, louder, badder,with Create-a-class 0.3, Capt price is unlikely, but likely in a way, 14-15 years ago Captain Price was a leftenant, not a captain, So Lt.Price/Cpt.Price could be in there, As it took him over 14 years to get to cpt, which is like, 4 ranks, Gaz, not so much, For all we know, When gaz died, he may have been 19 or 26, or maybe 30, He did kinda look young. Specialist Grundy 19:58, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

http://www.incgamers.com/News/24867/familiar-faces-returning-for-black-ops theres the link go on itButterball9 02:41, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

I might be wrong but are calling me a noob


 * Dude THEY NEVER MENTIONED MW!!! Olin said there would be characters from WAW returning, NOT all the COD games! Good Lord actually read the article next time. --LOST-The Cartographer 14:12, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * It saud in the title cod franchise thats all the cods you read it duh.Butterball9 14:16, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just ******* forget about it Okay dude !!! people take it to far so you might get blockedButterball9 14:19, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Cod addict, Did you ever read my post that it took like 2 minutes to type? Read the post, It'll make that "copyright" blah blah blah thing wrong in a way. As long as they do it for the wii. What the hell? I put the squiggly lines there, and It didn't post my siggy? How dare it!-Specialist Grundy 20:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * ^ heh irony. but yeh this website isnt official, its just vague and susceptible to serious speculation cause of the way its worded. the odds of a MW character appearing is zilch. --Ashwilso12 14:44, August 29, 2010 (UTC)
 * Plus, that would be COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT. That is all. -- CoD addict · (talk) 20:05, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Pay? or not?
My friend says that we'll have to pay to play cod BO online. But I don't think so! But I will buy the PC version, and he the PS3 version. Does anyone knows if you have to pay for it (on PS3)?? Jupitus 13:11, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

It was a joke made by treyarch to the xbox360 that they would have to pay but it was only a joke.Sgt Sprinkles 13:15, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

No it's free and stop bringing up Butterball9 13:16, August 29, 2010 (UTC)

Nazi Zombies Story Continued?
Many people are saying that treyarch is continuing the Nazi Zombies storyline in Black Ops. Do you think they will?   Diante  grassstain     01:27, August 30, 2010 (UTC)

Probably not. However, if they don't, what WILL they do...?

You'll know when they confirm it.

01:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * IIRC one of the GKNOVA6 documents discusses the zombie Asylum level in WaW. Darkman 4 04:42, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * again, they have no reason to make zombies be nazis. the reason they were nazi in WAW is because that was during WW2. black ops is about the cold war, and theres no nazis. if they have zombies in black ops, im sure they wont be nazi. they will probably just be russian commuinst zombies or something like that. but we still dont know if black ops will have zombies. all we know is that the zombie maps will be there, but maybe for a different gametype. maybe its a mix of zombies with objectives. who knows. the point is, stop calling them nazi zombies because black ops will not have anything nazi related. so no, i dont think they will continue the nazi storyline. if i had to guess, id say it will be more like mutants in an underground lab....kindof like resident evil. sorry for the long post Alex dlc 10:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * again, they have no reason to make zombies be nazis. the reason they were nazi in WAW is because that was during WW2. black ops is about the cold war, and theres no nazis. if they have zombies in black ops, im sure they wont be nazi. they will probably just be russian commuinst zombies or something like that. but we still dont know if black ops will have zombies. all we know is that the zombie maps will be there, but maybe for a different gametype. maybe its a mix of zombies with objectives. who knows. the point is, stop calling them nazi zombies because black ops will not have anything nazi related. so no, i dont think they will continue the nazi storyline. if i had to guess, id say it will be more like mutants in an underground lab....kindof like resident evil. sorry for the long post Alex dlc 10:52, August 30, 2010 (UTC)