Forum:Creepy's RFA decision

Hey, it's been about 2 weeks. At least, two weeks on the 22nd, but I am pretty sure everyone has voted. Anyways, we all have the requirements, so is it still to early, or are you going to SYSOP us. Cheers!
 * Wait a minute, I just saw your comment in the history area. This does not make much sense.  No matter how much you think Joeyaa's vote is relevant, I don't think it is really fair to judge off of him.  The vote is clearly over 75% as was agreed on in the discussion.  Also, you cannot really change the fact that Darkman 4 and Rs4life07 both voted positive.  I do not want to cause any feuds or anything, but I really do not think this is fair.  Joeyaa also has "minimum participation" himself, and thus does not have a very good idea of the "goings-on."  Not to mention that, well, although it is a little braggy to say this, but I have a certain pride in ressurecting this wiki.  I contacted Rs4life and you basically asking for help to get this wiki moving, and talked to Darkman 4 so we could both run.  This sounds presumptious, but if I hadn't brought it up, Darkman 4 wouldn't have ran for SYSOP and Rs4life woudn't have decided to come back to this wiki.  As to my so-called "small editcount", well, can you consider nearly 1000 edits small?  Yes, the smallest of the three of us, but it is definitely moving up fastest, and I am a very active user.  No hard feelings if you do not think the time is right, but I simply do not think that it was a rational decision you made.  Even Joeyaa agreed that there is no way I will be doing any vandalism, and he trusts me.  He just thought I wasn't ready.  However, I find it kind of interesting that the users who disagreed with my becoming SYSOP were users that really aren't here much.  I will not speak for Darkman 4 and Rs4life, but they are here all the time, and it's not like I bribed them to vote for me.  I will ask if they will voice their opinion on this matter, but I am perfectly willing to let it lie.  No hard feelings,

I would like to make two comments here. Firstly, I do have minimum contributions here that is true, I stop by a few different wikis and help usually with templates or discussions, I am not here to become an admin or anything of that sort. Secondly, CreepyDude, you are starting to sound like a baby, if you complain about everything, try to connive into admin status, and then try to push everyone who "wouldn't care" into voting for you as they don't care of the result. However, vandalism isn't a thing anyone expects an active user to do, it is not even expected to happen by an IP. You repeating that, doesn't really make sense unless you have a plan to do it in the future, but I don't really care. Also, your maturity is reflected upon by your constant complaining and even here by when you try to go personal against a person you told to vote. I think it really would be best if you grow a little, and then re-apply. And, I am probably not the only one to think that. Besides, I don't like one sided conversations about me, so I had to respond :P. Have a nice day. Joey -  Talk Contribs 03:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * I am sorry if I came across the wrong way. I tried not to complain, but I have to admit, I was a little put off.  I wasn't trying to say that you were a "bad user" of how you had low contributions, and I see you as a senior editor to Wikis.  However, I think your vote was kind of a cheap shot.  I wanted to point out the MOST was the fact that I was not "bribing" people, or sniveling to them for help.  I was just asking people to "vote" whether it was for me or against.  Really, if they voted because they thought they wanted to be nice, then isn't it them who is being the "baby?"  Not that I think any of the users who voted were, but my point still stands.  Really, I don't care about whether I am admin or not.  I'm not going to leave if I don't get "platinum status."  Let's make that clear.  What I don't really like is having my vote killed by one person, when there were other peoples voting.  However things roll down, please refrain from trying to insult someone, because I believe that falls under "personal attacks" on wikis.  If you are trying to say: "Wait a little then become admin" then please say so.  It also doesn't help when you don't so much as say a word to my postings on your talk page.  I find that a little childish.  Nevertheless, we have two capable admins to sit in already, so no sweat.  Oh, and if you want to respond, please do so on my talk page.  As to that comment about one-sided talk, I posted a very similar thing on your talk page to which you did not respond.  Cheers!

After my response here, I believed we were hosting it here, and I will do that unless Chiafriend12 doesn't want me to. Besides, I didn't respond because I haven't been on. I've been on IRC and on my more of a host wiki, doing some important coding. But, I do need to outline that I didn't ruin your chances, my vote had no effect, your behavior is all that affected it. If there was no truth to what I said, then everyone would know I was lying, but when there is truth to it, everyone then knows that I am telling the truth, and it might be worthwhile to listen. Your continuity on this matter furthers by base point that is that you need to become more mature. By vote was also, in no-way, a cheap shot or anything similar. I voted since you asked me to, and took a look into everything you've done. Read a few edits, talk pages you wrote on, and realized you are a good user, just a user who is too young. By that I do mean that you are immature, anxious, and at this point; annoying. I don't want to fight with you, but you need to understand. Before you even think of responding, read through this and everything I've said a few times to make sure you "get it". Thanks. Joey -  Talk Contribs 05:50, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Point taken. Question: if I am so immature, why are you the only one to mention it?  I am not denying it, although I don't think I am.  Anxious, yes.  Annoying...  Well I cannot judge that, but I will take your hint and see if I can't work on it.  Can I have some examples of talk pages, edits, and some of those things you mentioned?  Like I said, if this SYSOP doesn't turn out, I will try again in maybe a month or two, and we'll get to that when we get to that.  Only two more things I want to point out.  One, why do you think, from your honest opinion, are you the only one to think I am a bad choice for admin thus far, and two, you never really answered my original question, is why do you think I would make a bad admin.  What are some examples of problems I would get into that could effect my administrative duties.  It would appear that you still are a little "grumpy" for lack of a better term, and although I appreciate you being right to the point, you are coming through as being crass and obnoxious.  Tanks,

Lots of questions, too little time. Your immaturity is extremely apparent even now as you won't just accept my opinion based on facts. I am glad you will re-apply later, I never said you shouldn't, and in a month or so you may be more ready. Adminship is a privilege not a right, there is no reason why you would be bad at it, but also no reason why you should have it. There is always need for users, and then for admins, and you don't need a distorted amount of them. Now, I don't know what you know about independence, but I like to think of myself as an independent individual, and obviously the others didn't go in depth, or on the more worse end, don't consider all the factors. I've made a specific observation on these wikis which are more popular for adolescence, they assume they will be admins, and assume they can do what they want. Here is a life lesson; that will never happen. This constant complaining is really just displaying my point. And if you want prrof of what I've said, just read your own posts here, you don't even need to go that deep. you should have accepted my opinion and observations, and clearly say "Okay, I will fix these flukes, and will return with my RFA in a few months or so". I'm not making personal attacks, I'm expressing what I think you need to fix, I do what to see this wiki thrive and prosper, but it needs everything to be perfect. Oh, and one more thing, please don't try to make comments about me. Have a nice day. Joey -  Talk Contribs 10:26, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

'''If I may say so, I beleive Creepy deserves the sysopsing. Despite the one neutral vote, he still 4 out of 5 votes, which is an 80% consensus. I think that is enough. Also, questioning a decision is not immature. Creepy is simply tring to find out why he didn't receive adminship. This shows just how good of an admin he will be. Once he sets his mind on something, he goes after it. This is what this wiki needs in an admin.''' --17:22, 20 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Wow, thank you very much Rs4life. What I was about to say, was that I do not feel that being an admin is "necassary", but rather, it would be convenient because I have to pester you with every block or or semi-lock for an article.  Thank you for confirming that "questioning a decision is not immature."  This is what I was trying to convey to my extreme dissapointment.  Thanks,

I don't think maybe I was clear. It wasn't my vote, it was my objection; my point which declares certain points against this user. I didn't do what everyone else did and say, "Good User", simply because that means nothing. In reality, everyone lacking of a ban on their own account qualifies to be a "Good user." So, I'm not saying to telling anyone to weigh my vote any differently, but to think at least before he click the button, and think about what I said. For getting a privilege like adminship, one needs to consider all factors. Now sure, his combined edits may make you think he is a wonderful contributor, but quality over quantity is always better. Not saying he lacks quality, but he does lack a certain wiki/Wikia experience which is easily displayed just by talking to him. I know he tried to connive into admin status through going up with another user; a better user, to try to just get through. Then, when this was postponed, he created this big old kerfuffle based solely on his zealotry on, well everything. The things he has said here are immature, the way he doesn't accept my opinion is also immature, as well as the way he will reply to this with many complaints against myself. A user is a user, I never asked to be an admin, and I won't be asking to be an admin here, so I don't need to be judged. What I was asked, was to vote, either for or against Creepydude, and I fulfilled his request. And I will tell you one thing about wikis, every user is the same, an admin, a user, and an IP. No one's opinion or in this case vote, is more or less important. That is basically the sole idea of what a wiki is. Also, to Rs4life07, think about what you said about his determination. Do you not see any possible negative things that could come from that? I do. But, once again, all this is my opinion, and I am only writing a critique against him because he wants to ask for this privilege of being an administrator. Have another nice day. (P.S. I feel sorry for Chiafriend12, whom will get a lot of emails if he has that enabled, or at least have a spammed-looking talk page, can we move this somehweres else for his sake?) Joey  -  Talk Contribs 22:48, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

'''Regardless of the opinions of him, Creepy has acheived consnesus of 80% so although these may or may not be valid points I feel we must give it to him. If Creepy does not uphold his oath to be a good admin then we will have his powers removed, it can't hurt anything to give him the power that the wiki community has approved.'''--01:41, 21 December 2008 (UTC)