Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops/Archive 5

Gameplay
So... yeah, no-one replied last time lol. Should we have a Gameplay section instead of just linking to other places like computerandvideogames that tell you what Treyarch have said? Seems to be easier and something like that has been done with MW2. Just a thought. F Brushfire 21:14, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I think that that's kind of useless for the time being, since we have next to no info on the actual gameplay as of yet. S0ulEmbrace 21:36, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, we do. Or at the very least, we know what kind of things multiplayer will include. Though I guess that's not really complete gameplay changes, more like info on perks, killstreaks and things like that. F Brushfire 22:07, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe we should add the M40A3 to the possible list of weapons? This sniper was invented in 1966, so i think there's a good possibility it'll appear in Black ops.


 * Unless you can show us proof that it will be in the game, be it a video, image, whatever, we're not adding it to the list, though I do hope it makes an appearance. Chief z 23:19, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Who ever said it was though, they have to be seen in videos before they can be added to a page.67.224.57.88 23:11, May 4, 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah sure, just talk about possible weapon appearances in my category. Besides, don't put anything in the possible weapons list unless you think you saw it in an image. It may show up but there's no point creating a "possible weapons" list when we don't even know too much about the game yet. F Brushfire 17:23, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

The one identified as "Either an MP5 or G3" could also be a HK33. It's really hard to tell cause the only thing you can see clearly is the ironsights.Apepa 18:23, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

AH-1? Looks more like an Mi-24A if you ask me...and a lot of speculation on the page. Let's narrow it down to what is actually known, shall we? Mechanical 42 05:39, May 6, 2010 (UTC)


 * That was my first thought. But I compared the canopies of the AH-1 and the Hind, and the Hind has a metal pillar running along the center of the fore top panel. The canopy in the trailer doesn't have it. Of course this could be an error on Treyarch's part (I still doubt it's a Cobra). However, we take what we get, and what we have is a cockpit that looks more like the Cobra's. Chief z 05:48, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Missions
This was found leaked by a senior executive for COD BO - Set during the Cold War in 1968.

- There will be a four-player co-op mode in the game.

- One mission has you flying in a SR-71 Blackbird over the Ural Mountains, watching a team of troops and issuing orders. After that section, the player assumes control of one of the troops in order to infiltrate a Russian facility.

- One of the weapons revealed was a crossbow with a scope for sniping. Also revealed was a new concept: alternate ammo. The crossbow, for example, can switch between normal bolts and ones with explosive heads.

- Treyarch head Mark Lamia says the game will cover a "longer period during this era," suggesting it could go beyond 1968.

- Input was sought from Maj. John Plaster, a Studies and Observations Group veteran from the Vietnam War, as well as Sonny Puzikas, a former operative in the Soviet special forces.

SOURCE. and sign your posts. If you have interesting information, for god's sake give us the source. You could easily be making this stuff up! The-Dreamcaster 08:57, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot the source i will put it below plus more links with more information.







CoD7 starring Nikolai?
Just a theory, but Nikolai form the Modern Warfare series obviously has had war experience before the events in CoD4 and MW2 (especially as a pilot) and the fact that he is found in CoD4 locked alone in a heavily guarded house and had the information for the "cargoship operation" suggests that he was involved with black ops....I'm not sure, but I think this game will have Nikolai as a playable character...showing his start as a soldier in the vietnam war and progressing all the way up to the point he is found in CoD4, like a prequel from his POV, similar to the 'Ghost' mini-series.
 * Nikolai is Russian, and therefore wouldn't been involved in active combat during the Vietnam War if he were old enough to serve in the Soviet military. Darkman 4 23:43, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * It will not happen, A) Nikolai IS RUSSIAN B) Nikolai=IW COD:BO=Treyarch GenCain sig.jpg T  C  E   B 23:44, May 4, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you're going by that thesis you'll think Captain Price is the SAS operative being held, and that Shepard is going to shoot you between the eyes. Smuff 16:26, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * If this is possible, it could be likely other Modern Warfare characters may make appearances. These could include young versions of high ranking officers like General Sheperd. It is also possible that McMillan may appear, as his appearance in Call of Duty 4 was set during the 1990's, though this is only a theory.
 * -Bakerboys019''' 6:45pm 7th May 2010
 * He would also have to be much older than he is in CoD4 and CoDMWF2 InFeCtEd32 22:21, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

NVG's?
i was wondering if nvg's were used in the Vietnam era.

does anybody knows this? Elberto 11:29, May 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * There was a night vision scope for the M16 if I recall correctly, but it wasn't nearly as powerful as NVGs today. Cpl. Wilding 12:24, May 5, 2010 (UTC)


 * It was called the Starlight scope. Basically it used the light from the moon to illuminate whatever it was you were looking at. But if there was no moon out, tough luck. Chief z 12:41, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * So there were only night vision scopes and no goggles right? Elberto 21:02, May 5, 2010 (UTC)
 * Correct. The Starlight scope was too big and bulky to be used as a pair of goggles.Chief z 05:39, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
 * Correct. The Starlight scope was too big and bulky to be used as a pair of goggles.Chief z 05:39, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Northern Ireland?
Well, the story will involve the SAS, maybe some other British Forces, and can be set up anywhere up to 2010. The idea of a setting during the Troubles in Ireland seems like a viable option. Although it would likely be contreversial, it could expose players to another view of warfare. Of course, I am refering to that of militia and insurgents.

It seems like a plausible and innovative idea. Plus, this conflict has never been explored in first person shooters. Give me your opinion, wether it be on if it is a good idea or if it will be in the game. Chriswashere 00:36, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I myself am Northern Irish and to have the NI Troubles in a Call Of Duty game would be a brilliant idea, but as said above it would be very controversial and both sides of the wall might not take it too well (Nationalist Catholics, Unionist Protestants.) The in-game chat would be plauged with sectarianism. Elvis Thong 18:31, May 7, 2010 (UTC)

True. I'm just wondering, are there still heated arguments in NI after the troubles? I know the violence has stopped, thank God, but is it still something that sparks a sense of hatred? I'm from Boston, so I wouldn't know much, but it's always been something that interested me, seeing as I'm of Irish descent. Chriswashere 21:01, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

It's lowered but it's still there I live there, two weeks ago a car bomb went of outside MI5. There is yeah, you should see Belfast sometimes, theres a motorway going through the middle which acts like a wall to seperate the two. Same as Elvis, it would be brilliant but more contraversial than No Russian probs, and trust me, Elvis is right, the amount of Unionists and Nationalists on it would be silly, it would be begging for large arguments. Smuff 22:31, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Treyarch's "Going Green"
First Treyarch recycled CoD4's game engine for World at War, now they are recycling weapon skins they used in Quantum of Solace. The AUG seen in the Black Ops video looks exactly the same as the Raker A3 from QoS, which means that we might see more unoriginality from Treyarch soon. Automechtech1 18:14, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

It may just be a placeholder. Don't get your panties in a knot. Cpl. Wilding 18:16, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I mean IW used Pelaylo and Volker models countless times in MW2 so it's not a huge deal. 18:17, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Per Cpl. Wilding. And just because it looks similar, it doesn't mean that they are the same. I doubt Treyarch would ripoff a lot of weapons from a James Bond game. 18:20, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

I'm just saying, don't shoot the messenger. We can guess what weapons they will be using based on the fact that they are reusing weapon skins from previously made games. Weapons such as the M60, AUG, Dragunov, MP5, AR-15 variants, and more. Automechtech1 22:18, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * maybe...they guys that made the QoS weapons are also making the BO weapons?!?!??!?!?! Darkman 4 22:22, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Treyarch actually made QoS using the CoD4 game engine. That's why they may be using the same weapons skins, just retouched a bit. Automechtech1 22:37, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Your point being? We have no way of being able to guess at the weapons because ONE weapon seen in a pre-release trailer looks like another game that used a similar engine. It'd be horrible speculation at the best. Cpl. Wilding 22:24, May 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * Do you find it hard to believe that a video game company would recycle previously used data in their future titles? It's been done before, and it certainly won't stop now. Considering the timeframe of Black Ops and the introduction of previously stated weapons, we can be assured at least some of those weapons will make an appearance. Automechtech1 02:48, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Sally?
Where is this supposed pistol and where have you guys seen "Sally"? I've watched the trailer over and over and haven't seen the name. Cpl. Wilding 18:17, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Hold on I'm uploading a photo... 18:21, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

Here. And for some reason the quality degraded when I took a screen capture but if you tilt your head sideways you can make out the words 'Sally' on the pistol.



18:24, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

That looks like a M1911. Slowrider7 20:43, May 6, 2010 (UTC)

That is not a AH-1 Cobra cockpit for sure. Its the russian Mil-24 "Hind cockpit.

S*** me if im wrong, but I only see a l l (what looks like a v but probably is a y) Y and i see no S on it? Qw3rty! 00:00, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Still not seeing it. Doesn't look anything like Sally to me. Looks almost like a 9 and two ones. Cpl. Wilding 00:18, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I'm on a high quality screen, turn your brightness up and it's there. 15:16, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I have 1 15" Hannspree monitor up full brightness and I'm still not seeing it. Cpl. Wilding 16:16, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

I can barely make out 'ally' with full brightness. kudos to the guy who noticed this in the first place. Play2often, May 10,2010

I went into my fancy-shmancy photo editor and highlighted 'Sally'. (Picture enlarged 2x)



18:52, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

Image description change
Upon closer look, the image with the "possilby a AH-1 Cobra", appears to be a Mi-24A, if you comprae it to real life photo.81.84.119.15 22:05, May 8, 2010 (UTC)


 * Read the Gameplay section above. Chief z 22:38, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

If it's OK, I added template

CODVeteran May 9, 2010 16:05

Perks, cuz im tired of gun talk :\
Okay I'm really gettin tired of everyone obsessing over the guns from the TEASER trailer lol no offense but we still have a while to go.

Im more interested in the perks. As Treyarch has said Commando will not be returning, what do you suppose will return from Modern Warfare 2?

Lol and don't put Stopping Power, we all know that one! 21:07, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

This kind of discussion really belongs on a blog or a forum. The talk page for articles are usually for discussing about the page and how we can clean it up.

Random Man 0213 21:10, May 9, 2010 (UTC)

Setting contradiction and general continuity fix needed
…and judging from weaponry and dates given in the trailer, it is set at any point between 1973 to 2010.

The extract above is from the introduction of the article. The year "1973" seems like it would be either a typing error, or completely misjudgement. Later in the Possible Settings section (shown below) it contradicts what the introduction says, by giving a far more general time frame of setting. Either more specific times would apparently need to be cited, or a more general period should be given.

It will be set in "recent history" (between World War II and the present day) and will feature missions in Cuba and South America.

Attack Rhino 13:10, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

By the way, what is with all of the weapons have a (definite) shown at the end of each line? Is it not most of the purpose of this wiki to show true and factual information about the games, and everything included in them? So why would the weapons in the game need to be tagged as definite, as it would lead me to think one would also show weapons, that are only defined by rumours, however strong based they might be (with of course no official sources).


 * It just means the weapon can be clearly identified in official source material. Look at the G3/MP5 for example: we can't tell which one it is, if it even is either of the two, so we just put "possible" next to it. Besides, knowing these guys, we'd never allow rumors in the list; it's against policy. Oh God, that whole fiasco we had with MW2 last year... Chief z 15:11, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I could see a point though. Remember in MW2 where the G3 was confirmed but pulled from the game. It could be possible that one gun could be pulled from here, but that is just a 'maybe' situation. Ferrariguy1000 00:56, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * I could see a point though. Remember in MW2 where the G3 was confirmed but pulled from the game. It could be possible that one gun could be pulled from here, but that is just a 'maybe' situation. Ferrariguy1000 00:56, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Lets Be Fair
In the Logos section we have the xbox and ps3 pre order box. what about pc? Warpanda13 21:20, May 10, 2010 (UTC)

The PC box is same as the PS3, and it is just art with no logos or anything. Slowrider7 01:38, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Uploaded the PC Box Art HYBRID XERO 02:33, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Possible info on a Mission
I found this site while looking at CoD Black Ops on the internet. It is part of USA Today, so it could be official.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/05/first-impressions-call-of-duty-black-ops/1

It mentions a scoped crossbow. Do you think this is true?

Ferrariguy1000 20:33, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

This is interesting, nice find. I wouldn't recommend making an actual article about this though.   4oh!4   File Not Found. 20:43, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Probably we could put it in "Posible Settings". Not sure if we should make a scoped crossbow in the weapons or not though.

EDIT: oh, someone beat me.

Ferrariguy1000 20:46, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmmm, seems solid. 20:48, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

It talks about a SR-71 mission. Ferrariguy1000 20:54, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Disect. 20:58, May 11, 2010 (UTC)



Yeah, I don't think we should add anymore info about this, until we have more to go by. 20:56, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

It says it takes place in the Ural Mountains guiding a group of soldiers of an unknown faction (most likely US or UK) past Russian soldiers to infiltrate a Russian Facility. Judging by pictures, it could be a satelite station or something.

It also says the name of the mission is "WMD" (Possibly "Weapon of Mass Destruction" which could mean it involves nuclear weapons) Ferrariguy1000 21:36, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Pretty interesting, especially the Blackbird mission. The part that caught my eye was the alternate ammo: would it be available to all weapons, or just the crossbow? I'd love to pack some HE rounds with a sniper. Anywho, it seems legit to me (there's no reason to lie here), but I'd be cautious about adding the info. Chief z 23:37, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Picture
I was reading an article about the level that was featured and they had this picture in the article.

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/game-hunters/2010/05/10/black-opsx-large.jpg

I think the gun he is holding to our left is the one that says Sally. 22:23, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

Yea i certianly see an lly so im guessing it is Sally

Yeah, I can just barely make out Sally. 1080p resolution ftw. Chief z 23:46, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

What about the guns on his back. I'm not a gun expert but I think they got to be an M16, M4 Carbine or CAR 15. 00:01, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Those are a M4 Carbine and the CAR-15, by the flash hiders/muzzles. Slowrider7 00:44, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, the one on the right is a CAR-15 (the CAR-15 has a long muzzle/flash hider thingy) and the one on the left is another AR-15 variant (definate carbine, could be an M4 or a colt carbine/Model 653). Ferrariguy1000 00:57, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

After looking at some pictures, the left one is DEFINATELY a AR-15. I dont know about the CAR-15. Slowrider7 01:01, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * The one on the right is a CAR-15. I have pictures to show a comparison between a M4 (as an example) and a CAR-15.

M4: http://www.imfdb.org/images/d/de/ColtM4_FirstVersion.jpg CAR-15: http://www.imfdb.org/images/8/87/CAR-15Rifle.jpg

So, the one on the right has to be tha CAR-15

the Left one may be a Model 653, not an M4. An M4 has a small neck where the M203 latches on, the Model 653 doesn't. here is a picture of the Model 653 you can compare to the picture with the CAR-15 and the unknown AR-15 variant: http://www.imfdb.org/images/4/4c/ColtM653.jpg Ferrariguy1000 04:14, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Not to get too detailed, but...
No dought this gun will be called the AK-47 ingame, but the gun really looks like a Norinco Type 56 if you look closely at the front sight. The sight is covered on the top which indicates that it is a Norinco Type 56, the AK-47's front sight is open on the top. It may not be too important, but I just noticed it.

Ferrariguy1000 04:45, May 12, 2010 (UTC)



It would make more sense, since China did supply the NVA and Cong with 56's. Chief z 05:40, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well, either it's the type 56 or it is just a visual illusion that makes the front sight look hooded. I hope it is the Type 56 though. Ferrariguy1000 23:46, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

You DON'T want it to to the Norinco and not the Kalashnikov. There was a 50% chance the Norinco would jam after each shot. Several in Vietnam were only fired twice, then broke beyond repair. But then again, Treyarch isn't always historically accurate... Shepherd&#39;s ghost 19:57, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Another yet interesting thing
On an IGN Trailer analysis, at 5:03-5:04, the guy mentions an Auto Assult shotgun. I don't recall seeing it, but he says he sees it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292tCSCvFQY

There actually is one automatic shotgun (The AA-12 which the modern AA-12 was based on) in the 70s: http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/atchisson1.jpg

Ferrariguy1000 04:57, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, it seems plausible, but nothing definite. The only thing I can think of is that he may have mistook the RPK for the AA-12 or IGN got some footage we haven't seen yet. I guess we'll have to wait for more info. Chief z 05:22, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Yea, I understand. I just got excited after hearing it. Ferrariguy1000 05:25, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

I hope you know Ferrariguy, IGN just takes info from other websites, says it again, and then say they "analyzed" the video. IGN truly is the least beleiveable source when it comes to unrealeased games. Those retards said "M4 machine gun assault rifle" and "Ogg sub machine gun" proving they dont know crap about these games. Slowrider7 11:32, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

Thumper
I added the Thumper to the list, but labelled it as the M79 Grenade Launcher. I got proof (picture).

According to the site, it says "speculated weapons list", so it will be removed. But, yea. If the thumper isn't in Black ops, they'll get it. Ferrariguy1000 23:41, May 12, 2010 (UTC)

That is not Proof At all, I could easily name a bunch of weapons SPECULATED in the Cold War, so i removed it.Qw3rty! 00:31, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, next time sign your posts. Attack Rhino 00:29, May 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * F*** i keep forgeting Qw3rty! 00:31, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, it's not the list I was getting at. The picture shows a disasembled M79 with Treyarch's CoD logo, which is similar to WaW's logo.   4oh!4   File Not Found. 01:39, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

SEAL Team Six?
Seeing as how this will be a Cold War game, would SEAL Team Six with Richard M. be out of the question? Slowrider7 02:47, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * I definitely wouldn't rule it out, but at the same time I'm having major difficulty getting a feel for what this game will be like. Still, I am optimistic. Imrlybord7 04:01, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * That reminds me: Redcells. It would be pretty interesting playing as one of them. Chief z 06:55, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

interchangeable ammo
the article from USA today mentions that there is going to be interchangeble ammo:


 * "...One by one, players will pick off unsuspecting foes with a scoped crossbow. Similar to previous Call of Dutytitles, players will click to hold their breath and fire away.


 * This is when we check out one of the franchise's new features: alternate ammo that can be changed on the fly. As the group gets closer, they find an area with at least a dozen enemy soldiers, two of which sit by a truck. The lead character switches from a standard arrow tip on his crossbow to an explosive tip. Once fired, a beacon flashes for a couple seconds and boom goes the enemy...."

Ive bolded the important bits. it seems that cod7 will have interchangeable ammo, at least it will for the crossbow. can someone add this into the aritcle? 110.174.141.98 07:52, May 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * Dunno, does it really require an entire article for just 1 sentence someone said? lol --Ashwilso12 13:34, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

He didn't say to make an "Interchangeable Ammo" article (which would be ridiculous), he just said to acknowledge its existence in the article (which is totally reasonable). Imrlybord7 19:49, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

It's even cornfirmed that shotguns would have interchangable ammo. It's even cornfirmed that the SPAS-12 could accept the "dragon's breath" flamethrower shotgun shell. Awesome. Maj.Gage Talk. 02:07, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sonny Puzikas
Awesome. You may know him from the "Deadliest Warrior" series (Green Berets vs. Spetsnaz episode) and the "Spetsnaz" episode of "Weaponology". This will be pretty cool having him advise Treyarch. Maj.Gage Talk    Maj.Gage  Talk    Maj.Gage  Talk. 19:32, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

I remember that episode of Deadliest Warrior... he was epic. He's one of my favorite guests on that show... I remember the Green Beret's defeat at the hands of the Spetsnaz... Aaaah, good times...

Random Man 0213 19:36, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

OMG that guy rocks.  Gman 111  20:36, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Plus, he came back in the hour and a half special; IRA vs. Spetsnaz. Obviously, the IRA got raped. Sonny Puzikas FTW! When I saw his name on the Call of Duty: Black Ops article on wikipedia, I was like "OMG? Isn't that the guy from Deadliest Warrior?"

Random Man 0213 20:40, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Leaked Mag cover
http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/05/13/french-oxm-front-cover-leaked-features-black-ops/

They say the gun one the cover is an M16A1. 20:25, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Could be. Is that a White tape Camouflage on it?

Random Man 0213 20:30, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

That is a M16A1, per the ribbed, rounded handguard. Slowrider7 20:43, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Should we put it on the list?

Random Man 0213 20:45, May 13, 2010 (UTC)

Well, seeing as how its not an official Treyarch picture, but its very probable, I would put M16A1 (Possible)

M16A1 alright. i could tell by the triangular shaped handgaurd. Ferrariguy1000 01:12, May 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Is it just me who thinks it looks shopped? how legit is this site? --Ashwilso12 12:13, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20091121001657/callofduty/images/2/25/Epic.jpg http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100407230718/callofduty/images/3/3f/Intervention.png 16:45, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

Squad Leader
Same person? 19:16, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

These guys think so F Brushfire  19:51, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

I may be seeing things, but it looks like the gun the bottom pictrure is in has a scope. Other than that, those two guy's look the same. Ferrariguy1000 21:42, May 14, 2010 (UTC)

I'm thinking that he's the main character of the game. He's everywhere now; The Black Ops article in the magazine, the 16 second teaser. 04:16, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

New Gameplay trailer comming the 18th
I was on my facebook subscribed to Call of Duty: Black ops and it said "Watch the brand new 100% Gameplay Trailer on the NBA on ESPN, 8:30PM ET. Game 2, Eastern Conference Finals."

http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=117235011644978

I can't wait, probably lots and lots of weapons, gameplay, and storyline. Ferrariguy1000 00:08, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

CHECK THIS OUT NOW!
Get Analysis on this NOW! http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/05/14/oxm-scans-reveal-goldmine-of-call-of-duty-black-ops-details/  Squelliot Talk   Edits   01:27, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

"There’s ‘dedicated co-op’, suggesting a departure from WaW – Treyarch ‘changed the subject’ when asked about zombies." YES!!!!!!! -- CodExpert Talk 01:29, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Drive and Shoot Helicopter? Awesome!!! Now I really can't wait for CoD:BO! I wonder if we can crash the copter. :P OMG, did I just hear "Character Customization"? Awesome! I like the customization here. I wonder if callsigns will be back?

Ferrariguy1000 01:36, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URuEjZ2ApXg&playnext_from=TL&videos=fRhG8vQ7Fsg It's somthing off Machinima Maj. Boner 01:55, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dang, that's intense. The guy even sweats. 02:00, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I saw an MP5. Slowrider7 02:01, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I saw a guy sleeping when he does the slit-throat motion. I'd like to see that mission played out. Chief z 07:43, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

I'M SO HAPPY
Character Customization!!!!!!! Voice Acting!!!!!! Aaaah!!!! 01:58, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Next Reveal Trailer
The next trailer will be on May 14 during the NBA Eastern Conference Finals, at 8:30. On I think ABC Blinzy45 03:17, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Dude, It's May 15. And I see no second trailer. 04:02, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry I am Retarded, I meant May 18.Blinzy45 04:05, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

No, not retarded. That's cool, can't wait. I hope it's a gameplay trailer, I want to see some gameplay. 04:06, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Its 100% gameplay. And Yes I am a retard, today at least Blinzy45 04:13, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

They will also be showing little game play promos starting tonight on espn. 20:13, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Can't wait!  Conqueror of  all Zombies  Ta lk  20:16, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Voice
I don't really understand what I meant about your character having a voice. Can anyone tell me what they meant? LazerPlayer LZ-PR 05:58, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

They mean you're no longer playing as a silent character (i.e. Roach, Soap, Miller, etc.) The protagonist will actually speak. 4MB1T10N  Talk  06:17, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

A talking playable character will be awesome :D --JerryWiffleWaffle 19:06, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Victor Charlie?
I can only think of one thing. VIETCONG!!!!!!!!! Its slashin time!!!! lol 4MB1T10N   Talk  06:15, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

M16 and CAR
If you look at this, you can clearly see a CAR-15. However, other images have shown an M16. Something tells me that both the M16 and CAR-15 will be in the game, with the CAR-15 taking the place of the M4 from the MW games. Darkman 4 07:17, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

That's what I've assumed so far; it makes sense actually. Also, "dedicated co-op"? Is that my Black Ops idea come to fruition? Chief z 07:48, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

MP5/K
I found an image confirming it. It looks more like the MP5K than the MP5. I'm going to put it as definite. Doc.  Richtofen  09:05, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Source
http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/05/14/oxm-scans-reveal-goldmine-of-call-of-duty-black-ops-details/. There have been three levels named. Check it out for more. Doc.  Richtofen  13:06, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

AR-15
Do you think we should make a page for the AR-15 or the CAR-15? They have been confirmed and we've seen them multiple times throughout the Black Ops trailers and magazine articles. 13:19, May 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * No. We don't have anything to put on the article, other than that it appears in Black Ops. Chief z 13:36, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Beta?
I think that would be the biggest stab at IW. Even bigger than the Battlefield ones. Slowrider7 13:44, May 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * Don't know what IW was thinking, not doing a beta. Anywho, it's a win-win situation if they go through with it. We get to play and they get to fix. Besides, IW is pretty much dead. I'm sure the rest of the staff will leave after Resurgence is released. Chief z 13:55, May 15, 2010 (UTC)