Call of Duty Wiki:CoDferences/Log - 19th November 2011

[Sat Nov 19 20:05:03]N7!~N7@wikia/trekweb.N7 set mode for #wikia-codference: +v ('Xd1358',) [Sat Nov 19 20:05:08]  12:05 [Sat Nov 19 20:05:10]  Lettuce begin [Sat Nov 19 20:05:11]  Yeah, great codference, cya [Sat Nov 19 20:05:12]  Let's do it. [Sat Nov 19 20:05:16]  THIS IS THE MOFFERENCE [Sat Nov 19 20:05:17] Bovell changed topic of #wikia-codference to Welcome to the Call of Duty Wiki's CoDference channel | CoDference in progress. | See the meeting's agenda here: http://goo.gl/NGKrK | See http://bit.ly/BotCmds for URL's voting commands | If you have under 50 main space edits, you will be quieted (sorry) | Swearing is forbidden | Channel is logged [Sat Nov 19 20:05:17]ChanServ!ChanServ@services. set mode for #wikia-codference: -v ('Xd1358',) [Sat Nov 19 20:05:20]  codference* :3 [Sat Nov 19 20:05:21] Doc: I did nazi that coming [Sat Nov 19 20:05:23]  let's ago Luigi! [Sat Nov 19 20:05:24]  gtfo star wars [Sat Nov 19 20:05:26]  wait wat [Sat Nov 19 20:05:26]  Topic #1: [Sat Nov 19 20:05:28]  "Resuming discussion of AGF - War Room topic on this ground to a halt, and I think some people have more to say on this." [Sat Nov 19 20:05:44] giggleisazuris joined #wikia-codference [Sat Nov 19 20:05:44]ChanServ!ChanServ@services. set mode for #wikia-codference: +o ('giggleisazuris',) [Sat Nov 19 20:05:44]  we need to rewrite it [Sat Nov 19 20:05:44]  Maj_Blackout: we did IRC meetings five years before you [Sat Nov 19 20:05:49]  OK, what will we discuss first [Sat Nov 19 20:05:49]  I have to say most anons are not here for good intentions. [Sat Nov 19 20:05:50]  I'd like to say this about ABF [Sat Nov 19 20:05:51] giggleisazuris left #wikia-codference [Sat Nov 19 20:05:53] <Maj_Blackout> bad faith [Sat Nov 19 20:05:57] giggleisazuris joined #wikia-codference [Sat Nov 19 20:05:57]ChanServ!ChanServ@services. set mode for #wikia-codference: +o ('giggleisazuris',) [Sat Nov 19 20:05:57] <Bovell> For those of you that need War Room context: http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Redefining_how_AGF_can_be_applied [Sat Nov 19 20:05:57] * DarkMetroid567 points at topic [Sat Nov 19 20:05:59] <Rambo362> ok then now where to start on rewriting it [Sat Nov 19 20:06:07] <SPNKR> Let's go. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:07] <Maj_Blackout> Bad faith is out of the question [Sat Nov 19 20:06:08] <Diegox223> soo [Sat Nov 19 20:06:12] <YellowRiolu> we know we're rewriting it [Sat Nov 19 20:06:13] <Diegox223> yup [Sat Nov 19 20:06:14] Shadow7615 quit chat.us.freenode.net (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) [Sat Nov 19 20:06:16] <DarkMetroid567> Yes. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:19] <Maj_Blackout> arright [Sat Nov 19 20:06:19] Bad faith seems like it would turn into a banfest [Sat Nov 19 20:06:23] <Maj_Blackout> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:06:23] <DrkDragonz66> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:06:25] <Chiafriend12> I don't any immediate gripes with how AGF is currently. What is good and bad faith should be obvious. I'm staying out of this one for the most part. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:25] <YellowRiolu> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:06:26] <DarkMetroid567> ^^ [Sat Nov 19 20:06:33] <DarkMetroid567> ninja'd [Sat Nov 19 20:06:33] <Chiafriend12> And no, we're not going to assume bad faith. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:33] <N7> ^^^ [Sat Nov 19 20:06:34] <Diegox223> But, it's either change it, or really apply it as a policy [Sat Nov 19 20:06:35] <CplBohater> Per Chiafriend12 [Sat Nov 19 20:06:35] <DrkDragonz66> AGF seems fine to me [Sat Nov 19 20:06:37] <SPNKR> Same. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:39] <Metlman13> AGF is fine how it is niw [Sat Nov 19 20:06:41] <DrkDragonz66> ABF is the worst thing we could do [Sat Nov 19 20:06:42] <YellowRiolu> so ABF is out of it [Sat Nov 19 20:06:43] <Metlman13> *now [Sat Nov 19 20:06:43] <AdvancedRookie> I agree with Chiafriend12, I don't see why we need a re-write [Sat Nov 19 20:06:45] <TWC> Per Diegox223 [Sat Nov 19 20:06:47] <AwesomeSauce360_> Obviously, an anon who vandalizes is not here for good intentions. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:48] <SPNKR> AGF doesn't need that much work to it. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:50] AGF seems ok [Sat Nov 19 20:06:50] <Dariogweg> me neither, seems fine [Sat Nov 19 20:06:51] <Smuff> brb [Sat Nov 19 20:06:52] <AwesomeSauce360_> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:06:52] <DarkMetroid567> ABF would be insane. [Sat Nov 19 20:06:53] <Rambo362> i dont believe that AFG needs to be refined, just advertised more [Sat Nov 19 20:06:56] <Chiafriend12> I like how I say I'm staying out and I get perred o.o [Sat Nov 19 20:06:57] It's all about common sense really [Sat Nov 19 20:07:02] <Bovell> I want to understand why Smuff thinks there is such a problem with AGF [Sat Nov 19 20:07:04] * DrkDragonz66 pokes Chiafriend12 [Sat Nov 19 20:07:04] <Diegox223> As I said [Sat Nov 19 20:07:05] <Rambo362> yeah pretty much [Sat Nov 19 20:07:05] <DarkMetroid567> AGF does need to get rewritten. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:08] <YellowRiolu> This is the internet Daniel [Sat Nov 19 20:07:09] <Maj_Blackout> TBH i think we should merge AGF and UTP [Sat Nov 19 20:07:11] <SPNKR> Assume Bad Faith = Tons of FNGs would be banned. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:12] <N7> "Here is a new guy, i say we think he will be bad and not good" [Sat Nov 19 20:07:14] <YellowRiolu> people have no sense [Sat Nov 19 20:07:20] Per N7 [Sat Nov 19 20:07:21] <Metlman13> Wait, don't the registered editors already ABF in anons? [Sat Nov 19 20:07:24] <Maj_Blackout> merge AGF and UTP anyone? [Sat Nov 19 20:07:24] <TWC> What, why [Sat Nov 19 20:07:28] <Bovell> DarkMetroid567: Why does it need to be rewritten? [Sat Nov 19 20:07:29] <Diegox223> We should apply it as a real policy [Sat Nov 19 20:07:30] <Carbonite_0> I think because people use AGF as an excuse to do questionable things and try to get away with it. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:31] <SPNKR> No Blackout. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:32] <Diegox223> not a guideline [Sat Nov 19 20:07:34] <YellowRiolu> why Blackout [Sat Nov 19 20:07:34] <DocRichtofen> AGF is obviously down to common sense, the problem is when people come with a lack of it [Sat Nov 19 20:07:35] <Rambo362> Metlman13: yeah mostly [Sat Nov 19 20:07:35] <AwesomeSauce360_> We should NOT touch AGF. It doesn't really seem like it would produce a better result. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:36] <DrkDragonz66> Maj_Blackout: how? [Sat Nov 19 20:07:36] <TWC> Why would something like ABF be proposed [Sat Nov 19 20:07:39] <N7> per Carbonite_0 [Sat Nov 19 20:07:41] <DarkMetroid567> Well, actually, [Sat Nov 19 20:07:44] <YellowRiolu> per Carb [Sat Nov 19 20:07:45] <DarkMetroid567> AGF is fine. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:46] <DrkDragonz66> shush all [Sat Nov 19 20:07:47] <N7> [20:07]	Carbonite_0	I think because people use AGF as an excuse to do questionable things and try to get away with it. [Sat Nov 19 20:07:51] Per DocRichtofen [Sat Nov 19 20:07:52] <DarkMetroid567> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:07:54] <DrkDragonz66> Maj_Blackout: wants to merge it, i wanna know how [Sat Nov 19 20:07:55] <Maj_Blackout> UTP states that we should treat users fairly [Sat Nov 19 20:07:55] <Chiafriend12> Perhaps we should add a clause that AGF isn't your magic tool to get out of being a jerkfaced moron? [Sat Nov 19 20:07:56] <DrkDragonz66> :\ [Sat Nov 19 20:07:56] Per Carbonite_0 [Sat Nov 19 20:07:57] <AdvancedRookie> I thought AGF was just for when people were messing up articles, we presumed that they were just making it better [Sat Nov 19 20:07:58] <Diegox223> That's why DGTS exists, carb [Sat Nov 19 20:08:02] <Callofduty4> AGF abuse is covered by DGTS [Sat Nov 19 20:08:04] <AwesomeSauce360_> And AEAE [Sat Nov 19 20:08:06] <SgtSandwich> Per Carbonite. [Sat Nov 19 20:08:06] <YellowRiolu> per Chia [Sat Nov 19 20:08:07] <AdvancedRookie> yah [Sat Nov 19 20:08:08] Per chia [Sat Nov 19 20:08:08] <Maj_Blackout> AGF states that we should assume good faith [Sat Nov 19 20:08:10] <Chiafriend12> True, Callofduty4. [Sat Nov 19 20:08:12] <Diegox223> AEAE doesn't works in here :| [Sat Nov 19 20:08:18] <Diegox223> It isn't even involved [Sat Nov 19 20:08:21] <TWC> Chiafriend12: It seems that DGTS could cover that [Sat Nov 19 20:08:21] People use AGF like IAR, imo [Sat Nov 19 20:08:21] <Bovell> Don't game the system, it's really simple and means AGF doesn't need a rewrite [Sat Nov 19 20:08:22] <DocRichtofen> Per Chiafriend12 [Sat Nov 19 20:08:24] <SPNKR> It doesn't? [Sat Nov 19 20:08:25] <AwesomeSauce360_> I see. [Sat Nov 19 20:08:27] Just to get away with crap [Sat Nov 19 20:08:30] <Rambo362> AEAE barely works [Sat Nov 19 20:08:32] <Diegox223> per Bovell [Sat Nov 19 20:08:33] <AdvancedRookie> People usse AGF like NOT [Sat Nov 19 20:08:36] <Callofduty4> DGTS covers any abuse of policies [Sat Nov 19 20:08:40] <DarkMetroid567> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:08:42] <Bovell> I don't see it being used as a fillibuster that often [Sat Nov 19 20:08:43] <AwesomeSauce360_> ^^ [Sat Nov 19 20:08:44] <Diegox223> If AGF gets abused, DGTS is there [Sat Nov 19 20:08:45] <DarkMetroid567> I guess that's fine. [Sat Nov 19 20:08:47] <AwesomeSauce360_> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:08:49] <SPNKR> We don't need to change AGF. [Sat Nov 19 20:08:50] <Metlman13> I'll be back in a second [Sat Nov 19 20:08:51] <DocRichtofen> Bovell: Do you think it clearly tells you not to game the system? [Sat Nov 19 20:08:57] <Callofduty4> yes [Sat Nov 19 20:09:00] <Callofduty4> !vote start [Sat Nov 19 20:09:00] <URL> Callofduty4 would like to start a vote. Administrators, please use !vote confirm if you agree. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:00] <YellowRiolu> DGTS needs more endorsement [Sat Nov 19 20:09:00] <Rambo362> per Diegox223 [Sat Nov 19 20:09:00] <AwesomeSauce360_> We shouldn't really change AGF. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:04] We should just add a few lines [Sat Nov 19 20:09:06] <Bovell> DocRichtofen: http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/COD:DGTS [Sat Nov 19 20:09:17] <AdvancedRookie> IRL policy needs more enforcing [Sat Nov 19 20:09:18] <N7> what is the vote Callofduty4 [Sat Nov 19 20:09:24] <Bovell> Not voting yet [Sat Nov 19 20:09:27] <SPNKR> Wait, support means you want to change it or not change it? [Sat Nov 19 20:09:29] <DarkMetroid567> Awww. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:30] <Rambo362> we have an IRL policy? [Sat Nov 19 20:09:33] <N7> thats whay i thought Bovell [Sat Nov 19 20:09:33] <YellowRiolu> AR yes but save that to the end [Sat Nov 19 20:09:34] <DrkDragonz66> no voting, we dont have anything to vote on [Sat Nov 19 20:09:36] <Diegox223> on weapons, yes [Sat Nov 19 20:09:36] <DocRichtofen> Bovell: Fair enough [Sat Nov 19 20:09:39] <SPNKR> Ok. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:40] <AwesomeSauce360_> Yes, Rambo. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:40] <Callofduty4> vote is to rewrite AGF [Sat Nov 19 20:09:44] <SPNKR> Yeah, no IRL infro. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:46] <CplBohater> Ok [Sat Nov 19 20:09:49] <DrkDragonz66> Rambo362: no IRL for weapons, some IRL for IRL places i think [Sat Nov 19 20:09:49] <SPNKR> alright. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:49] <Maj_Blackout> ok [Sat Nov 19 20:09:50] <SPNKR> Thanks. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:54] <DarkMetroid567> AGF is fine the way it is, I guess. [Sat Nov 19 20:09:57] <YellowRiolu> THIS IS FOR AGF NOT IRL [Sat Nov 19 20:09:59] <N7> I thought this was an AGF discussion [Sat Nov 19 20:10:00] <Maj_Blackout> i mean [Sat Nov 19 20:10:01] <N7> not IRL [Sat Nov 19 20:10:02] <AdvancedRookie> yah [Sat Nov 19 20:10:04] <Maj_Blackout> let me establish something [Sat Nov 19 20:10:04] <AdvancedRookie> ok [Sat Nov 19 20:10:09] <Maj_Blackout> where agf can be used [Sat Nov 19 20:10:11] <Rambo362> DrkDragonz66: oh yeah that. i thought that was just a section of the weapons policy [Sat Nov 19 20:10:12] <DarkMetroid567> If it's getting abused, there's always DGTS [Sat Nov 19 20:10:12] <AwesomeSauce360_> Anything not shown or heard in-game should not be on this site, Rambo. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:13] Alright [Sat Nov 19 20:10:14] <Maj_Blackout> today [Sat Nov 19 20:10:16] <Maj_Blackout> I changed the spoilers template [Sat Nov 19 20:10:20] <Carbonite_0> AGF itself is fine, it's the people who abuse it that's the problem. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:20] <Maj_Blackout> N7 undid it [Sat Nov 19 20:10:22] <Callofduty4> YR - no all caps [Sat Nov 19 20:10:24] <DrkDragonz66> Per Carbonite_0 [Sat Nov 19 20:10:25] <YellowRiolu> okay [Sat Nov 19 20:10:26] <Maj_Blackout> AGF is arright here [Sat Nov 19 20:10:27] giggleisazuris quit chat.us.freenode.net (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) [Sat Nov 19 20:10:29] Smilular joined #wikia-codference [Sat Nov 19 20:10:29] <Maj_Blackout> no grudges [Sat Nov 19 20:10:30] <DrkDragonz66> AGF is fine [Sat Nov 19 20:10:31] <Rambo362> AwesomeSauce360_: yeah im aware of that part too [Sat Nov 19 20:10:32] <Chiafriend12> AGF essentially says that, unless there is good reason to think someone is being malicious, assume what they're doing is in good faith. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:34] <YellowRiolu> Carbonite is right [Sat Nov 19 20:10:37] <Diegox223> people [Sat Nov 19 20:10:38] <DrkDragonz66> I haz idea guyz [Sat Nov 19 20:10:39] <Bovell> Per Chiafriend12 [Sat Nov 19 20:10:39] <Maj_Blackout> but abusing calls for DGTS [Sat Nov 19 20:10:39] <Dariogweg> ^ [Sat Nov 19 20:10:41] <N7> thats got nothing to do with AGF Maj_Blackout [Sat Nov 19 20:10:43] <Chiafriend12> Pretty simple. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:44] <N7> you're not new [Sat Nov 19 20:10:44] <DarkMetroid567> So...we've pretty much come to an agreement. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:45] <Callofduty4> hello Smilular, we're currently discussing whether to rewrite COD:AGF [Sat Nov 19 20:10:46] <Diegox223> We are discussing AGF [Sat Nov 19 20:10:47] <AdvancedRookie> Chiafriend12: However people tend to jump to conclusions [Sat Nov 19 20:10:47] <SPNKR> Mhm. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:47] IMO, we should just add a few lines, where it basically states "don't game the system to get away with crap" [Sat Nov 19 20:10:48] <Diegox223> not IRL [Sat Nov 19 20:10:51] <DarkMetroid567> Are we going to start voting? [Sat Nov 19 20:10:54] <DarkMetroid567> Yes. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:56] <DarkMetroid567> A warning. [Sat Nov 19 20:10:58] <N7> per w567123daniel [Sat Nov 19 20:11:02] <YellowRiolu> Per Daniel [Sat Nov 19 20:11:06] <DarkMetroid567> per w567123daniel [Sat Nov 19 20:11:06] <Rambo362> w567123daniel: how would that help? [Sat Nov 19 20:11:08] <SPNKR> per. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:08] <Callofduty4> !vote start [Sat Nov 19 20:11:08] <Maj_Blackout> it's more of a counter argument on ABF [Sat Nov 19 20:11:09] <DrkDragonz66> put a section saying that AGF cannot be abused per DGTS and AEAE(?) on the page? [Sat Nov 19 20:11:10] <YellowRiolu> then add a link to COD:DGTS [Sat Nov 19 20:11:11] <SgtSandwich> Per daniel. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:11] <SPNKR> That actually sounds great. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:15] <Diegox223> AEAE? [Sat Nov 19 20:11:15] <AdvancedRookie> This will be mentioned in the CSB policy discussion [Sat Nov 19 20:11:21] <Callofduty4> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:11:21] <Metlman13> I oppose the ratification of AGF. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:22] <Bovell> The only fictitious problem people raise with AGF is that people abuse it, which is protected by DGTS [Sat Nov 19 20:11:25] <Diegox223> AEAE isn't in a direct relation with AGF [Sat Nov 19 20:11:26] <N7> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:11:26] <URL> N7 agrees to start a vote. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:26] <DocRichtofen> Then perhaps it would be more appropriate to add on to AGF, rather than re-writing it [Sat Nov 19 20:11:26] <Chiafriend12> All Editors Are Equal, Diegox223 [Sat Nov 19 20:11:27] !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:28] <JPanzerj> Daniel spoke sense. Per him. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:28] <AwesomeSauce360_> !retract <I see no reason to touch AGF.> [Sat Nov 19 20:11:33] <Diegox223> Chiafriend12: Ik [Sat Nov 19 20:11:34] <Bovell> Motion to proceed: rewrite AGF? [Sat Nov 19 20:11:35] <DrkDragonz66> I like my idea :\ [Sat Nov 19 20:11:36] <Chiafriend12> :) [Sat Nov 19 20:11:37] <Diegox223> I'm not a newb [Sat Nov 19 20:11:38] <N7> Shall we rewrite AGF or not then? [Sat Nov 19 20:11:41] <Diegox223> nah [Sat Nov 19 20:11:43] <YellowRiolu> get the vote going! [Sat Nov 19 20:11:44] <CplBohater> No [Sat Nov 19 20:11:46] <DrkDragonz66> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:11:46] <URL> DrkDragonz66 agrees to start a vote. [Sat Nov 19 20:11:46] <Bovell> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:11:46] <URL> Voting has begun Use !support and !oppose to vote. (Started by Callofduty4, N7, DrkDragonz66, and Bovell.) [Sat Nov 19 20:11:51] <DrkDragonz66> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:53] <Bovell> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:53] <Maj_Blackout> !support [Sat Nov 19 20:11:53] <SPNKR> !support <Daniel's suggestion seems legit> [Sat Nov 19 20:11:54] <Rambo362> Bovell: so should we make DGTS more known? [Sat Nov 19 20:11:54] <CplBohater> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:55] !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:55] <Xd1358> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:55] <Diegox223> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:55] <Metlman13> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:11:57] <YellowRiolu> !support per Daniel [Sat Nov 19 20:11:58] <Chiafriend12> Support means you want to rewire [Sat Nov 19 20:11:59] <DarkMetroid567> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:12:00] <Rambo362> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:12:01] <AdvancedRookie> !oppose We don't need it [Sat Nov 19 20:12:01] <Chiafriend12> rewrite* [Sat Nov 19 20:12:03] <N7> !oppose Its fine at the moment, we need to just at DGTS stuff [Sat Nov 19 20:12:03] <Bovell> Rambo362: Yes, probably [Sat Nov 19 20:12:06] <N7> !tally [Sat Nov 19 20:12:06] <URL> There are 14 total votes: 3 supports, 11 opposes. The support percentage is 21.00%. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:07] <SgtSandwich> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:12:08] <JPanzerj> !support per Daniel [Sat Nov 19 20:12:09] <Sactage> !oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:12:15] <Callofduty4> !vote close [Sat Nov 19 20:12:17] <DrkDragonz66> !tally [Sat Nov 19 20:12:17] <URL> There are 17 total votes: 4 supports, 13 opposes. The support percentage is 24.00%. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:18] <YellowRiolu> just add what Daniel said, no rewrites [Sat Nov 19 20:12:19] <N7> !tally [Sat Nov 19 20:12:19] <URL> There are 17 total votes: 4 supports, 13 opposes. The support percentage is 24.00%. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:19] <Callofduty4> !vote end [Sat Nov 19 20:12:19] <URL> Callofduty4 has requested voting be closed. Administrators, please use !vote confirm if you agree. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:21] <DrkDragonz66> !vote end [Sat Nov 19 20:12:22] <AwesomeSauce360_> !oppose <I see no reason to touch AGF. It just doesn't seem like it would do any good.> [Sat Nov 19 20:12:24] Support was to completely rewrite [Sat Nov 19 20:12:24] <SPNKR> Alright. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:27] <Sactage> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:12:27] <URL> Sactage agrees to end the vote. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:28] <SPNKR> oh. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <DrkDragonz66> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <URL> DrkDragonz66 agrees to end the vote. [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <Bovell> !vote confirm [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <URL> Voting has ended. (Ended by Callofduty4, Sactage, DrkDragonz66 and Bovell) [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <URL> Result: 18 Total Votes: 4 Support, 14 Oppose; 22.22% Support, 77.78% Oppose [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <%s> Supporters: Maj_Blackout, SPNKR, YellowRiolu, JPanzerj [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <%s> Opposers: DrkDragonz66, Bovell, CplBohater, w567123daniel, Xd1358, Diegox223, Metlman13, DarkMetroid567, Rambo362, AdvancedRookie, N7, SgtSandwich, Sactage, AwesomeSauce360_ [Sat Nov 19 20:12:29] <URL> Votes cleared --- [Sat Nov 19 20:12:33] Oppose was to just add [Sat Nov 19 20:12:37] <N7> that was to quick [Sat Nov 19 20:12:38] <Smuff> what happened [Sat Nov 19 20:12:38] <YellowRiolu> oh right [Sat Nov 19 20:12:39] <N7> but [Sat Nov 19 20:12:39] <Bovell> No rewrite, then [Sat Nov 19 20:12:40] <N7> oh well [Sat Nov 19 20:12:41] <Callofduty4> okay, vote is to not rewrite it [Sat Nov 19 20:12:44] <Sactage> Okay, so, no rewrite [Sat Nov 19 20:12:46] <Metlman13> What's our next topic [Sat Nov 19 20:12:46] <Rambo362> Bovell: then that shouldve been the goal, not fixing something [Sat Nov 19 20:12:46] <DrkDragonz66> !linebreak