Talk:Kino der Toten

hidden room
heres a hidden room available for a couple of seconds only when you teleport. http://www.youtube.com/v/YTGyTpPgQ_o?version=3 wontbackdown 05:38, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

That's not all. The 4 teleporting rooms are: Samantha's room(The room you were at), Demon Samantha's room, A projector room in The Pentagon, and a surgery room in Verruckt.

Loading screen transcript
Does someone think we should transcript the lines said during the loading screen? MatheusBond 16:12, November 11, 2010 (UTC). It was on this talk page but somebody removed it. I'll post it again soon. General Geers 02:36, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Ah, found it. I posted it on the Nazi Zombie talk page, not this one. General Geers 02:40, November 14, 2010 (UTC)                      u are all the smartis people ever and not sad atall

Who is in the fifth portrait
Theres only four characters on the first map so who is in the fifth portrait anyone got any clues I sorta think its samantha but we wont know for sure.Sgt Sprinkles 01:02, November 12, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Acctually, theres 2 black portraits in kino der toten. One is on the wall and the other is on the floor right next to it.

EDIT: actually if you look at the bottom right corner of the blank portrait on the wall i believe it says wendee but someone else said it says wendel but o well. BluntxNative92 (ps3)

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9th January 2011 11:52

i have no idea. i think its sam as well.

Its slightly obvious. Before tank dempsey, there was a mexican that edward richtofen was turning into a supersoldier. he died during testing. this is most likely the blacked out photo. wendell is an artist, most likely the treyarch artist. Attackdawg1

theres no way that could be sam the portrait looks like it would be a male, now the name of that male im not entirely sure of. darthius1991 psn

any chance it doctor maxis? sams father.

I think that the one that is hanging is Dr maxis and the one on the ground is sam. I still hope they are alive somewhere.

I think it might be Dr. maxis and the mysterious Peter fellow just an idea

If you go to the top window where the zombies spawn from in the lobby, the opposite side from the room with the portraits, and you look to your right a bit, on the right hand wall looking through the zombies' window, towards the back there are four (more or less, can't remember) blank portraits. so there are really about six blank pictures, from what I've seen

What if the blank portrait is Peter> Or Gearsch.

If you go in the dressinng room in the one window. not the broken wall one. if you look into it there is a seperate room there. and there is a pounding noise if you stand there with no zombies are aroundl. also, it seems to be barakaded. i seem to think that the fith guy is in there

If you look though the upstairs windo you will see more portraits edited : 4/13/11

I believe that the large portrait is Dr. Maxis, and the blacked out one is RIchtofen. Samantha controls the mystery box and all of the stuff, she probably blacked out Richtofen's photo. Why would the large one be Richtofen? Plus, it barely looks anything like him.

well from my side i got the truth the hanged picture is dr.steiner's the guy in the campaign he was realeated to zombies somehow one of the intel's u open during campaign (not from the map) says that the group used him to make him control the zombie the same way he used it on mason and the other 5 are: dragovich kravchenko dr.clarke other 2 im not sure of maybe reznov and woods woods arm got 115 on it which is used to create most of the wounder weapons and createing the zombies and dr.calrke is realeated to the map "FIVE" cuz when the zombie tht takes your weapons u can see some number writen on his head and his arm which are the same written on dr.clarke in the campaign and dr.steiner after the zombies thing in kino he was off the island where you kill him in the campaign there and to make sure thath there is 6 pictures see the window where zombies come from in the begining room up the stairs on right side of the room behind the window u can see 4 more pictures and the movie when played u can see a guy which really looks like dr.steiner the fifth one is frank woods or reznove or dr.maxis im really not 100% sure.

i still got more to tell about all maps from verruckt to call of the dead and some clues of paradise clues which may tell you where the map location is

wish you goodluck all.hope i helped you.

it could be the mexican mentioned in call of the dead radios, and peter. or it could be brock and gary from the shangri-la radios?

I think all the portraits are everyone involved in Richtofen's plans, the blank portraits could be Dr.Maxis and the mexican that was accidently kill by Richtofen and later replace by Dempsey68.2.116.216 23:27, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think the all of the pictures are Dr. Maxis because there is only one black portrait in the panic room on Five.

Projector tapes
I was playing Kino der Toten and as I was pack a punching my weapon I was teleported to a bedroom (Samantha's I believe) as it only lasted for a few seconds I decided to go up to the bed which had a Monkey Bomb, I clicked Use on the monkey hoping I could take it but I got an item which could be used in the Projector in the pack a punch room.

Anyway, as I teleported again I used it on the Projector and it showed a secret message, I could not hear it very well as there was lots of zombies around (I recorded all this as I was recording my use of the Thundergun). After I teleported out of the pack a punch room I was teleported into a room which looked like one from the Pentagon. So I thought I would try my luck again to find another one of these tapes. And to my surprise I found it. I used it again and there was another message.

Has anyone found any of these? And should I add on it the Kino der Toten page? Also I will put up the video to prove it.

Thanks

shadex1998- hey yes i have seen them and used them there is one on samanthas bed or by the table sometimes, in the demon version room they will be in the same spot, in the dentist room it is either on the table by the chair or the far shelf, and the final one is yet to be found by me.

P.S. They play the story of Kino Der Toten

I'm not completely sure about this, but it worked for me. If you get all three tapes from the rooms and use them all in the projector and then go to the pentagon room and press x (or square) on the rocket, it should launch. I saw it with my own eyes. Anyone else wanna try it?

There are only three tapes, in the places shadex said above. The final one can be in two places in the Pentagon room. One, on top of the TV and two, a little to the right of the TV on a stand thing. Also yes, the rocket in the Pentagon room does activate after using every tape when you use the "use" button. (X on the Xbox, Square on the PS3, ??? Wii, ??? PC).

There are actually four: one in the dentist's place, one in the pentagon room, one in normal Samantha's room, and one in zombie Samantha's room. You also don't have to get the tapes to launch the rocket. an easy way to get the secret messages is to find the secret radios, such as the one in the theater's chandalier.

Game Over Music
Question:

There's a song that starts to play at the end of Kino Der Toten, should I add this in Trivia?

"Hey I play zombies all the time and the game over music can be played if you activate all the 115 metiorite peices in the building. There is one in the lobby by the corner by the stairs in a glass case press square, x or whatever to activate it. once activated it will make a electric sound and your charectar will say something. the next is in the place after the alley on a shelf, and the last one is in the dressing room in a corner on a table by where you would by the MP5K. The song that plays is 115 by elena siegman. add me on Play Station im shadex1998. On my shadetendo channel on youtube i will post more easter eggs.

The game over music is not the same song you hear from the metoerites, it is the song on Ascension. "Abracadavre". Not counting Ascension, every map in Nazi Zombies, the death song/game over song has been the secret song in the next map.The song is called 115 so it would be ovies to call the rocks that

Teleporter Rooms
I was flying around with noclip and exploring the mysterious rooms you teleport in and out of in less than ten seconds. First room has a chair in it similar to the one in Verruckt. The first room has three parts also. Two parts have a chair and the third is a cell where you can here the door slam. Getting close to the chairs will trigger the sound effect of a drill and a man screaming. The second room looks like Samantha's room. It has a monkey bomb on the bed and Nikoli's Bottle of Voldka behind it. (Rumor has it that that monkey Bomb can be picked up, So far no proof has been found so.) and a teddy bear tea party. There is also a wooden town of sorts with small versions of Nikolai's, Takeo's, Richtofen's and Dempsey's character models in the middle. It also possible to find the first film reel here behind the monkey bomb. The Third room is the most disturbing. It appears to be Samantha's room after the zombie outbreak. A large pile of bloody teddy bears sits in front of a giant teddy bear. The giant teddy bear's eye will glow red of you get too close (or maybe just in the room i was using noclip). The second film reel is located on the window-shelf. The Fourth room appears to be located in America, it has a projecter with a projection screen and a model of the Soyuz rocket launch facility. Throughout all these rooms eerie whispers can be heard. These whispers can also be heard during Hellhound rounds. General Geers 02:35, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Loading Screen Chatter
Richtofen talking about his investigations:

''[static] Entry 741021! Perhaps the station will hold the Key to the real goals of group 935. I still do not trust my uncoventional allies, but they are of great use to me. But I digress. Who would've thought the MDT was capable of time travel. How many stations does this group have? Where did that little girl disapear to? Only time will tell what new questions await us in this... THEATRE OF THE DAMNED! [static]''. The little girl is Samantha Maxis, the MDT is a teleporter. Perhaps this is an error as MTD would be Matter Transference Device but i have no idea what MDT stands for. This is copied word for word off the actual subtitles. General Geers 04:57, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Why matter transfer defice seems fine to me. I am honestly getting bored of the story whloe fun and interesting at first I only get more questions than answers. I mean they can give us the answers and move on to other characters. I think that is why they have "Five" to see how players react to new ones. Sniper team  82308  05:02, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

actual translation
Kino der Toten actually translates to Cinema of the Dead, not theater Deathclawpoop 13:21, November 16, 2010 (UTC)

We've been over this, its theatre. If it really bothers you, ask Treyarch. 124.148.160.197 06:01, November 17, 2010 (UTC)

no its actually theater of the dead

Its auctully cinema of the dead. kino in german is cinema and toten is dead...

Who cares? It's the same thing... Kino is Cinema in German, but then again Richtofen says "THEATER OF THE DEAD" during the loading screen. Just call it whatever you want.

Actully he says "Theater of the Damned!" in the intro. Just saying. The Storm117 10:39, December 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * Kino can translate to both Theater and Cinema. Lordqaz 19:02, December 21, 2010 (UTC)
 * it is theatre of the dead, (google translate)... psn= clawdenx   Talk
 * shadex1998- he does say theater of the damned but i speak german and kino is cinima not theather it is cinema of the dead
 * Well, cinema and theater mean the same thing. Cinema just sounds more regal and classier. The only other difference is that a theater can be descibed as a place to show movies or live-action plays (cinema is exclusively movie showing).
 * Google translate puts kino der toten in english as theater of the dead. Cloudstrife4life 12:15, May 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * it's theater of the dead, lets just put that on the wiki, ok people?
 * How about you guys stop arguing and listen to Pordqaz, one of the few intelligent people in your little argument.
 * Facepalm ive got two friends who speak german and google translater says that kino means botch cinam and theatre
 * How about you guys stop arguing and listen to Pordqaz, one of the few intelligent people in your little argument.
 * Facepalm ive got two friends who speak german and google translater says that kino means botch cinam and theatre
 * Facepalm ive got two friends who speak german and google translater says that kino means botch cinam and theatre
 * Facepalm ive got two friends who speak german and google translater says that kino means botch cinam and theatre

It can mean either or because kino can mean either “theater” or “cinema” because in translation they mean the same thing. It's like arguing wether si (Spanish) means “yes” or “yeah”.

question
can you do spilt screen online with zombies

Yes, you can. But, as with multiplayer, only two people at a time.

68.149.139.170 19:33, November 17, 2010 (UTC)bradboss283 well done.

Incorrect
Hey just letting you guys know, The greman translation for 'Kino der Toten' is wrong. It's not "Theater of the dead", it's actually "Cinema of the Dead. Just letting you know so when editing is unlocked, it can be changed to the correct translation.

Bored guy 03:18, June 23, 2011 (UTC)Bored guy

No, the word kino can be theater or cinema(movie theater). This is because before there where movie theaters(cinemas) films where shown in theaters. (Superferd 19:21, August 14, 2011 (UTC))

you stupid it cinema of the dead. look it up nigger. superbuster4

Wii aug
I think it should be added that exclusive to the Wii version is an Aug in the theater under the sentry gun, I believe it is 1500 points, but I'm not sure.

Megamike360 01:47, November 20, 2010 (UTC)

You are right, there is an AUG under the sentry gun, handy if you do head shots.

it already says that on the wiki, morons.

Please, be nice and sign your posts...Jerk.RenegadeWarrior97 20:41, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Power Boxes
Okay, I've been playing zombies on Kino Der Toten alot lately, and I noticed something odd. There are random power boxes around the entire map. If you hit the Use button but nothing happened. I noticed that when you shoot them, they emit blue sparks. I haven't been able to do it to all of them but i believe that they do something. If anyone has anything to add, please let me know.

By jellomold 666

11/24/2010 10:51 AM

they're sparks you idiot. lol jk. not really. .. you talking about the zombie trap boxes?

I'm not talking about the trap boxes, there are other boxes that don't do anything.

i just watched video on you tube if you hit all the boxes in a certain order you hear a transmission from that doctor or watever

12/2/2010 8:53 AM

my ray gun was taken by the pack a puch machine and i was teleported out by the time i could get it then i was teleported to the room with the monkey on the bed,i tried to get it but not enough time i was teleported back to the theatre and then this weired symbol appeared between mymonkey gernades and my frags. what does this symbol mean?

umm. i believe when you tried to get the monkeys, there was a tape on the bed and you held the x or square button depending on what platform you play. does the symbol look like a tape? idk how many tapes there are because there are too many rumors saying there are 3, or 5, or 6. all i know is that you go up to the tape player in the pack-a-punch room and you hold X or Square and you put it into the tape player and it will play something up on the screen and play a little tape record.

-player.

shadex1998- Im gunna make this brief many people make the mistake of thinking they are grabbing a monkey bomb when actually they grab a secret tape lol.

if u walk up to the power boxes they open up and if u blow it up with a grenade the cover falls off, idk if the transmission rumor is real or not

I haven't heard of the power box rumor, I'll try it out someday.

I heard that the more power boxes you open the more power-ups you get. Drewfro666 19:55, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

I'm going to try to list all of them. forgive me if i miss any: - by the quick revive - in the alley by the fence (this one is grey, but it acts like the rest) - (2) in the room behind the broken wall in the dressing room - (2) one on each side of the theater, by the zombie spawn windows - on the floor of the fire trap room Drewfro666 20:06, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Foyer room glitch
Hello??? Will someone please remove the foyer room glitch in the article or at least provide evidence to its existence?????

i have no idea about that glitch.

-player.

It is true that there is a glitch. The glitch will only work with 3 or more players. When the game first starts, two players can go to the corner of the room next to the window that has the Stakeout on the wall. One player needs to lay down and put their head into the corner, once one player does that, another player has to dive up top of him facing the same direction. If done correctly both players will die and curl into a ball. The third player needs to revive them and the glitch is active. there a will be a lot more perks that come out of the zombies like max ammo, insta kills, double points, and nukes. Try it out. Have fun.

Actually the glitch does not have to be in that corner it is just the most common one, the glitch can be done anywhere just as long as you land on the person, once my brother tried diving over another person in an open space and activated the glitch.

This is actually just a way to get inexpeirienced players to die, and for the player who revives them to take their credits

Shadex1998- ok guys its not a glitch and it does not make more drops its simply a way to stop people from getting into glitch spots because if you could stand on someone you could jump onto invinsibility spots so to stop this they kill you if you try to get on top of someone.

ZKOM-74 Actually "Shadex1998", you are wrong. It is an "unpatched" glitch that the makers know about. The more you do it the more zombies that come out. It tends to increase the frequency of the drops but ultimately it floods you with zombies. My friends and I have done it 9 consecutive times and had round 12 zombies (quantity not strength) on round 3.

NOT A GLITCH

It actually is a glitch, but all it does is allow you to get power-ups at the end of round 1, where if you didn't do the glitch you would have to wait until round 2. Idk how people came up with the idea that it gives you more power-ups all game long.

Please re-write this section.
Instead of telling people to re-write the following section I have gone ahead and re-wrote it myself.

Your average zombies and hellhounds have returned in the new zombie maps. However, players will notice a new creature has come along. I've heard many referances to the name of this new creature but I am personally unsure of the "official" name of them. Some of the common names are as follows: gas crawlers, gas monkies, gas zombies, nova six zombies, and aliens (why they would call them aliens in a zombie game I have no clue). "Gas Crawlers", if you will, crawl on all fours and can very easily get under you're feet and need to be watched out for. Important things to note about them, they explode when you shoot them and it does damage you by blinding you, they are full of nova six gas which works the same way it does in the campaign and multi-player, and they DON'T explode if you knife them (I don't suggest attempting that unless it is "insta-kill"). They move quickly (more quickly than most zombies) and share almost no resemblance to the regular Nazi zombies. These "Gas Crawlers" however, only come out when the power is on in Kino Der Toten and when you venture down to the third floor on Five (it is important to know that they don't wait for the power on that map). Now according to the referrance below (and previous accounts of this on the wiki that have been removed), these crawlers are a direct result of Nova 6 exposure.

Lulzski 07:06, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

There is...read the BO game guide. Conqueror of all Zombies 02:00, December 1, 2010 (UTC)

Actualy, there is as when you put the reel into the machine it talks about DrSteiner, the creator of nova 6.

Black Room Strategy
I've noticed on the PS3 at least, if you decide to camp in the Black Room (the room right after the alley way) the Gas Zombies will not appear as long as the back door leading to the stage is not open. The reason for this? I don't know. My younger cousin taught it to me. So pretty much with a party of 4, go through the alley way first until you reach the Black Room and don't open the door inside it leading to the stairs & stage. Go the other way around (after creating a crawler) in order to open the other rooms and turn on the power. So when you camp, 2 people guard the windows inside, and 2 guard the stairs from the alleyway.

Ended up at round 26 with this strategy only because I decided to just use an upgraded ballistic knife while guarding a window and my party ended up dying on the stairs. Louie803 09:32, December 1, 2010 (UTC)


 * Gas zombies don't appear until you turn on the powerLordqaz 02:46, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
 * Gas Zombies only spawn from certain areas: the Stage, the Foyer, the Lobby, etc. When camped, Zombies will only spawn from the closest windows. So where you're camping is too far from a Gas Zombie spawn area... ie no Gas Zmobies!! Nice idea will be trying soon!!
 * Gas Zombies only spawn from certain areas: the Stage, the Foyer, the Lobby, etc. When camped, Zombies will only spawn from the closest windows. So where you're camping is too far from a Gas Zombie spawn area... ie no Gas Zmobies!! Nice idea will be trying soon!!

One of my favorite parts about the strategy is that if zombies break in through the stairs you can turn on the trap witch completely encircles you in electricity, excluding the windows. bad part is they usually do break through around round 30.Drewfro666 20:25, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Trivia: "Wir machen sie fertig"
I'm german. And "Wir machen sie fertig" doesn't mean "We make them ready" in that context.

It's "We'll finish them". 77.1.173.108 17:25, December 3, 2010 (UTC)

Well how about this, you see this quotes in the Pack a Punch room, the whole quote is "Durchhalten, manner, wir machen sie fertig"

"wir beenden diese" means "we'll end this" or "we'll finish this", Durchhalten, manner, wir machen sie fertig" means "By holding, man, we make them ready"

No, "Durchhalten, Manner, wir machen sie fertig" means "Hold on, man, we´ll finish them

You were all wrong the translation of "Durchhalten Wir machen sie fertig" means (in german) "By holding men we get ready. google translate proves it.98.81.84.193 19:28, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Except Google Translate isn't 100% accurate; for one thing, "fertig" means "finish".19:31, August 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * In fact, a better translation might be "we make them complete".19:34, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

New picture?
The load screen for Kino der Toten is boring, and for all the other maps we have a picture of something going on instead of the load screen. We should change Kino der Toten's. Conqueror of all Zombies 01:59, December 5, 2010 (UTC)

Pictures
Why didn't you guys let me post a new picture? The picture used in Kino Der Toten is low quality. So, why can't I just change it to a more higher quality picture? Rallinale 03:58, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

I told you in the summary of my edits its because yours is unofficial. Every other one is official either loading screen, map selection picture or promotional picture yours, as nice as it is, is none of the three so it cannot be the main picture sorry. Sniper team  82308  04:07, December 13, 2010 (UTC)

Fun Kino der Toten starting "glitch"
In the Lobby (the room you start in on this map), on the left staircase (when teleporting at the beginning of the level) is a slightly destroyed mirror with a thick wooden frame around it. It lies at the bottom of these stairs and lies vertically, rather than horizontally. While playing local co-op with a friend, I noticed that this mirror, like the mattresses in Afghan, seemed to prevent falling damage to a great extent when diving off the top of the staircase. However, you had to land on it completely via skidding, or at least get half of the body onto the mirror via skidding; if you overjump, you take a lot of damage. If you jump too early, it didn't really matter to your health (however, only attempt this with a buddy to watch your back, and vice versa, during rounds 1-5, trust me!!!).

I want to put this in this page's "trivia" section but because the "Kino der Toten" page is locked, I can't put it in. If the admins would be able to lift the lock so that I can put this in, that would be greatly appreciated!

Kind regards

(Sh1ad20wI-Iawk 06:56, December 14, 2010 (UTC))

the ladder on the stage
all of the barrels next to the ladder have no writing on them except one that has an arrow pointing up, how do you get on the ladder?131.191.25.200

You can't normally. Maybe with modds. Sniper team  82308  01:22, December 18, 2010 (UTC)

Some speculate that if you load all the reels and activate both radios and opne evry power box that the ladder is lowered and you can go up there. Some people say that they have done it but I have yet to see any proof, I have heard that it both takes you to the roof and gives you a "Classified Sniper".

Last I heard this myth was disproven.

heys guys me and my freind were playin and we think you have to get the reels, destroy the boxes, shoot both radios, click on all portraits, get the meterorites, and touch the rocket cause i think you do the rocket last and it blows the ladder down IDK but if anyone has any further info let me know please71.87.71.54 07:26, June 24, 2011 (UTC) iLLuSionZ36

No, there´s is no published way to get the ladder down!

All people who mean there´s a way doesn´t tried it! I´ll finished my video and gonna upload it soon, I´ve collected all reels, activated all radios, destroyed all power boxes and I activated all metroids, but the ladder didn´t ome down! - 03.08.2011 00:20(in Germany)

This all sprang from a video of a PC player nocliping and making it look like he's jumping up to the ladder and onto the walkway with a PSG-1, probably from some kind of glitch.

easter egg? cheat? or messed up bug?
this works with 3 or 4 people...at the start of the match have someone laydown into a corner. have someone runnig dive on top. both will die followed by sam's laughing. for some reason this cause fire sals and other power ups to drop at a very high rate compared to normal. what items you get seem to be random like normal. but i just did this an hour ago with friends and we got the fire sale like every round after the 4th wave. the game after that it was every other round...idk if its a bug or whatever...but it makes survuing a hell of a lot easier

another thing the people i played with seemed very insistent that no one kill or make any points intill they did it.. they seemed to think that causes it to not work...needs more testing? also this works on the FIVE level. i tried with other people and it worked with them too...so no one was hacking...Silverfox6000 06:11, December 22, 2010 (UTC)

i did more testing and we got the items a little less often as before...idk maybe it was just a conicidence and we got lucky?Silverfox6000 05:49, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, that does cause power-ups to drop more often, especially Fire Sale. But it also makes the rounds longer. Also, doing it twice in one game doesn't do anything, other than knocking you down again. Sharkbait9393 16:26, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

First of all you're wrong, the more you do it the more zombies that come out. Second of all this very same topic is higher on the page so you might want to remove this one. Also, in Kino there is a power box on the right side of the bar. If you open it/destroy it, it does the same thing.

It actualy does all of the above, because it messes with the formulas that decide how many zombies and power-ups you get. The large number of fire sales is caused by finding the mystery box early, because they start appearing once you find the box, and again finding it early messes with formulas that give you more fire sales.

Strange Containers
There are containers at the back of the stage with bodies in them. Who are they? Why are the there? There is also one next to the stairs to the left of the stage still in a box. Lordqaz 03:24, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

Welll gknova does hint at a monkey zombie...

They're teddy bears...

They are definatyl monkeys and im 100% sure

They are NOT monkeys or teddy bears. If you look into the window thing on the pods there is a creepy MAN face, not a monkey, or a teddy bear. dont post something that you are just assuming, get evidence to back it up. Poor blind people trying to play zombies. I also think this should be changed on the Kino page. Monkeybearcougar 16:50, April 3, 2011 (UTC)

They are monkeys dude. if you look at the elongated faces and the hair line you can tell, also some story line points to the testing of monkeys in the teleporter. this creats the monkeys in ascension. They are what most people consider Dr.Maxis' "failed experements"

The failed experiments are the gas crawlers. the face is nothing like the monkeys. and yuri and gerch were the ones involved in the monkeys. My cousin is also an artist and can tell when he is looking at a human face. Have you even read any of the pages on this wiki? once again, poor blind people trying to play zombies. and sign you postsMonkeybearcougar 03:07, April 22, 2011 (UTC)

they are zombies, because maxis was going to unveil his teleporters and creations at kino, they were kept in sealed containers just incase the german army needed reinforcements 16:42 july 6, 2011

Now that you mention it, they could be human zombies. I just always assumed they were monkies because everyone i talk to says they're the space monkeys from ascension. If anyone passing by can supply hard evidence it would be greatly appreciated.

On the Note of the Portraits...
Does anyone think it would be worth noting that the paintings seem to have been drawn by someone named "Wendel?" KlawwTheClown 06:59, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: i thought it said wendee? BluntxNative92

Translations
Just saying I can translate anything from zombies maps if anybody wants me to.DeAdLy 1mPaCt 23:18, December 31, 2010 (UTC)

What does the writing on the side of the thundergun say? or did u just mean German?Drewfro666 20:56, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Film Reels
Apparantly, there are five film reels. I dug through the game files and found them, I put them together with Richtofens quotes about their possible loctation. I'm just guessing about the quotes due to the file names. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usGUe3IrWk8. General Geers 09:24, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Edward Richtofen books
You guys know how there are books scattered on the floor, they say "Edward Richtofen" how could this be. No one would write about him when he is still alive and the fact they are at the kino. HOW .Dr. Maxis has a lab up in the pack a punch room. WHERE im going with this you ask. Well it could be two things.

1. Im still alive and i worked on the tests still after I teleported and that i came to the Kino and contined my work.

2. SAM is messing with us all

what do you think

Why couldn't anyone write about him if he was alive? There is no "lab" in the PaP room. Maxis is (supposedly) dead and there is no proof he teleported anywhere. General Geers 06:27, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

group 935 was swon to not talk about what they do are where they work.

in 1945 when HE AND THE OTHERS WENT TO THE YEAR 1960 everyone thought they were dead becuase they strangley dissapeared without explantion when in reality they went forward in time to a future where everyone thought they were dead Butthead4

A WW1 Fighter Ace by the name of Baron Von Richthofen was also known as "The Red Baron"

Wunderwaffe Kino existence
The rumors of it existing in Kino are utterly false as it obviously was 'overloaded' according to the new Black Ops radio transmission.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gky6yqE6N9Q

Unless someone can produce definitive proof of it existing in the map (and not through potential PC mods), I highly suggest it be taken down to prevent further confusion. - 76.166.182.56

It was going to be, but treyarch thought that the Wunderwaffel would be too easy to get the gas zombies with. sharpshot717

Weird Little Voodoo Set
In one of samantha's rooms, I found this: http://www.flickr.com/photos/32659975@N07/5338046589/. It's really...odd. General Geers 08:49, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's the four zombie characters. This has been in the trivia for quite some time. Cpl. Wilding 17:41, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Im not sure but this might be bugged on the ps3 version or my version at least, the teddy and the 4 dolls arn't there, only takeo's belt and his hat are there just floating, can someone confirm this? Dargonfly 19:59, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Chair Glitch in the Theatre
I was wondering if anyone else had noticed the glitch on the theatre during a dog round?

If you're facing the screen and the podium, on the stairs to the right are three white folded chairs lined up vertically on one another. You can jump on those and Hellhounds can't hit you. They'll crawl up to you and stand in front or behind you, but they won't attack you. This doesn't work on zombies however. And there can only be one player on the chair at a time.

I'd heard about this from some friends and was surprised that it hadn't been noticed on the page, but it's locked, so I can't do much about it. Likewowwipeout 08:27, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Ist das der Fernsehturm der Ostdeutschland?
What do you guys think the tower that is visible from the alley is?

Maybe the Fernsehturm (TV Tower) built by East Germany in East Berlin in the '60's to show their power?

Can't be Munich's Olympic Tower... That was in '72.

Anybody know when Stuttgart's Fernsehturm was built?

It's a tower from the Berlin Wall, and on it is a radio that plays when shot (best seen with L96A1 Sniper Rifle.86.11.50.14 18:30, March 12, 2011 (UTC)

yeah is a watch tower, they were posted like a mile apart from eachother, like on the map berlin wall, you can see the tower by alexanderplatz,a broadcasting station and shopping center, and the reichstag, which is obvious

Secret Ladder
Does anybody know how to get the secret ladder down that is behind the stage in the theatre room?

There is no secret ladder. It does'nt exist.

There is a ladder. It is behind the curtains on the stage. If you collect all four film reels it drops down. you can go up it and snipe the zombies but beware the crawlers can still get you.

Really? Show us proof. Dinosaurfan1 19:14, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

If you watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4wF4QgdZTQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL it shows the outside of the theatre from noclip, the roof. It has not been designed, there are no graphics for it, therefore you would never get on the roof because there is nothing to show when you are up there. luc122c

I believe he meant getting on the catwalks to snipe and the crawlers can come down the walls as usual, but climb onto the catwalk not the roof.98.81.84.193 19:13, August 10, 2011 (UTC)                                                Actually, you cant climb the latter at all

Sam?
I heard a rumor that picking up all three tapes can cause a fourth one to spawn in a room. And upon picking it the person is teleported to a hallway while being chased by a bloody, beat up Samantha. Is this true or is it fake? Dinosaurfan1 19:20, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Think. Do you really think this is true?  Conquerer of all Zombies Talk 20:19, February 26, 2011 (UTC)

Well, no, but I got no idea if it is. I often hear stuff that alot say is true while others say it's fake. I'm not the best at describing certain things like this. Dinosaurfan1 00:32, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

This is a total no brainer. IT'S FAKE!  Conquerer of all Zombies Talk 00:45, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

Of course it's fake, otherwise we (or someone on YT) could have found it.- Diegox223  Talk  00:51, February 27, 2011 (UTC)

no but there is 4 reels!!! i collected all four hit the little boxes both radios even all meteors chilled till 50 the ladders

do not drop!!!!!!!!!!!! they never drop no matter what

Model Rocket Takeoff
I know I'm not crazy, and I know for a fact I've made the model rocket that is inside the confrence room when you are teleportiwhat is the viidio called

ng back fly through the ceiling atleast twice, and on one occasion my friend was present and he saw it so I know I'm not seeing things. Strangely I get it by trying to do the use button, but it dosen't always work and it rarely does, perhaps it requires reload/use to be mashed several times, or perhaps you have to be maybe like the third for example person to try on your server, I'm not quite sure, but I know this is possible

If anyone else knows about this or could confirm it that would be grear

-MachoFern 22:00, March 1, 2011 (UTC)

I have also made the rocket lift off but am still waiting to kow how to release the ladder cant wait til someone finds it though and my friend was there to see it both times.

you can not drop the ladders! iv made it to 50 real fast to test it. got the meteors the boxes the 4 film reels both radios the ladders will never drop ever! want proof?? ill get you to 50 message zongo1 on xbox 360 ill prove to you that you can not drop the ladders.

just to let you know the ladders did not drop becasue you have to hit the light boxes in a certain order for the ladder to drop. if you go on youtube then there will be a video shwing you the order or atleast telling you. so, just to let you know

whats the link to the youtube video.. i wanna see

Where is the 4th film becuse i thought you could only find 3 in the rooms that you teleport to after your time in the pack a punch room?

All I did to get the rocket to launch was get all three tapes and then hit it. It just floated right through the ceiling.

Same here. XBox360. All 3 Reels. No meteors, or radios. Level 20, hit use button & rocket took off. No discounts on anything & definitely no ladder. I have no idea what it does. Starting to think its whole purpose is to just keep us all guessing.

Power Box Order
Does anyone know what order to hit the power boxes with the blue sparks in? If so what is the radio message that plays and does it hint to Der Riese or the MTD or Element 115? Lancelot102 Xbox 360206.58.201.37 02:10, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Wii Kino Der Toten Mystery Box
I've noticed that when ever i play kino zombies on the wii, the mystery box always spawns in the alley. Can someone confirm this for me? I've put this down in trivia because i'm confident that it is true. please confirm. L3ad D!5pens3r 23:32, March 28, 2011

I've had this confirmed by two friends, still it would be good to have a user on the wiki confirm this. L3ad D!5pens3r 00:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

dont worry, my bad. it wasnt true. just thought it was REALLY wierd that the mystery box wuz in the same place six times in a row L3ad D!5pens3r 06:34, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

Not for me exactly, if the mystery box is on the left side of kino it spawns to the foyer and if it's on the right, it spawns to the ally. Please confirm though. sharpshot717

just saying, sometimes, its somewhat rare, but on the wii version the mystery box will spawn in the lobby. i lasted to like lvl 46 because i stayed in that room the whole time. except the last 16 rounds.

KINO extra words found
hello i have deciphered some of the hidden code in kino and it does not appear here on this wiki how do i edit the page to beter reflect this?

This is what the wiki says.. Near one of the power generators on the stage, there is some writing. The only word that can be recognized is "Project" though there may be more to the message. (this is partially correct)

It is actually illuminati symbols and it translates to "Aether" Projection.... can somebody please fix this..

and can i get rights to edit these pages cause i have ALOT of work to do..Charc0a1 06:49, March 29, 2011 (UTC)

thx

aether, the greek god of the 'air', or something to do with the sky. what if the germans were planning to pollute the air with element 115

Berlin Wall
Should we include Berlin Wall as the multiplayer map of Kino der Toten?
 * Kino der Toten was released before Berlin Wall.
 * Aside from the Berlin Wall, no feature of the map is visible.
 * Kino der Toten was made before Berlin Wall (as it was originally intended to be a COD: WaW map back in 2009).
 * There is no sign of a Kino in Berlin Wall itself, unlike the other multiplayer maps when compared to zombie maps.

--Gruntijackal, the impending demise draws near 21:57, April 8, 2011 (UTC)

Zombie Holding Tanks
On the stage next to the mystery box, there are stacked cylindrical tanks. There is a small window on each of them, and if you are facing the mystery box and look at the stack on the right, there is one tank with the window low enough to where if you crouch next to it, you can see through the window and there is a face. I believe this is the face of a Zombie, and the tanks are what was used to transport them when not in use. This would make sense as the Theater is speculated to be where Dr. Maxis was to present his discoveries to the Riechstag. These tanks can be found elsewhere, such as under the metal stairs to the left of the stage(You have to open the door to acces this area) and to the right of the Juggernog machine, where some zombies spawn.

Can someone take a look at this and confirm/deny my theory? If this is plausible, I would like to add it to the Trivia section. --COOPERx223x

trivia of "kino der toten" has an incorrect point!
--> http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Kino_der_Toten#Trivia the second point of the trivia of "Kino der Toten" isnt quite correct. it says that "This is the third of the zombies maps to take place in during the day, not at night. The others are Zombie Verrückt & Shi No Numa."

BUT the map of cod5 WaW "Der Riese" is also during the day, not at night, because there's a solar eclipse while the player play in the factory!

I have fixed that and made a Trivia subpage for Kino der Toten. 20:40, April 25, 2011 (UTC)

Wierd Alien Area 51 Easter egg
==If you look under the staircase bottom near ther M16 slightly to the left of the staircase, a box with a small pod apears to have an Alien/ Gas Crawler Zombie. It has been thought to be another refrence to "Dreamland"/ Area 51. A name for this creature is unknown.==

This is the same pod I have posted about (A few posts before this, called Zombie Holding Tanks). This same one is mentioned in the post, along with the locations of the others, as there are several on the stage and in the Theater next to the Juggernog Machine. COOPERx223x 01:28, April 27, 2011 (UTC)COOPERx223x

mystery box spawn point in alley
in the alley there is a mystery box spawn point but it is not mentioned in the kino der toten article. that spawn point needs to be mentioned on the article

Knocking Window
I have noticed that in the dressing room there is a window that makes a strange knocking sound when you are near it (the blue window in the dressing room near the stone) anyone have a clue about this??? I havent seen any posts about this and I'm curious to know if there are any other window that do this and am I the only one who noticed? Can we do anything with it??? Cause I'd really like to know. ~145673~

Picture
has anyone notice in the knocking room look at the clothes then look down there are words jmob267

Book after the power is turned on
ok at the begining of the game theres like a pedestole in between the two staircases, and after i turned on the power i went back to the begining room and now theres a book on the pedestole, just wondering wat thats all about, i dont know if u can pick it up, i never really paid attention to that all that much but just curious.

missing quotes- tank demsey
buying MPL of the wall

"rapid fire sweetness."

Place to go as backup(attemted and worked
if you're on solo or mulit. there's one good spot to go if there is a overwhelming amount of zombies for you in solo or if everyone else is down on multi.

You know the first stair cases where you spawn on level 1, if there's a big amount of zombies coming after, try to shake them off and head between those two stair

Back up place to camp( Full Proof)(only for KINO)
This is good if a horde of zombies are chasing you on solo or when everyone else except you is down on multi- player.

You the stairs you see when you first start? Well if you go between them on top, right in middle, as close as you can to the rail, all of the zombies will go for you, but instead of going upstairs they go between the lobby and the theater trying to kill you, they may if come on your left or right and they'll just go down the stairs right below you.

CAUTION: If you've gone far enough to where there's crawlers, they might crawl right behind you and attack in some cases( BUT DON'T MOVE) or all those zombies below you will head upstairs unless you move back.

You can't shoot them from that spot though, so you'll have to move to your right where there are less barricades

and throw a grenade and lure them towards them, if you have a terrible gun, if you have a good weapon that kills them in one shot then just finish them all. Some might say where the juggernog is, is the best spot to be, well when you're on your own, it 's no good for when you reload unless you have speed cola, but that spots good in multiplayer when there's more than one person to back you up when your reloading pistol. I advise to get juggernog in case your in the situation in where everyone else is down.

HOPE IT WORKS FOR YOU

-GOOD LUCK

Hey everyone i have my own backup stratagy for kino. So when you can go to the power, leave a crawler. set the teleporter and make sure at the end of the round u have 1250 money. kill the crawler. at the beggining of the round, right before u get overwhelmed, open the teleporter. then go in and buy some grenades and shoot down. then when u return to the lobby run upstairs and set the trap in the first upstairs room. then turn around and look and make sure no zombies come in the other side of the room., hopefully ull have a crawler to prepare next round. thx! attackdawg1

3rd Radio transmission found on kino der toten!!!! EPIC!!!!!
Ive found the 3rd radio transmission!!!!!!!! if anyine ius interested in finding out the easteregg for kino der toten then please hit me up with a friend rerquest!!! this is epic news!!!!!!!!

SubbieRacer31664.71.102.186 04:04, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Mystery box Ray gun secret
Resky1530- I heard of a secret to get the ray gun everytime on the mystery box on this map. All you have to do is shoot the box 4 times then prome, get back up and shoot it 4 more time and BOOM there it is. I can't seem to get it working and from videos that i've seen everyone can do it. Little help?

No offence, but anyone who beleives that is a bit of an idiot. The videos show it working because they did it over and over until they got a Ray Gun, then they show that. Si vis pacem, para bellum 15:16, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Kino der toten survival guide. There are many ways to survive on Kino der toten but the strategy that I most prefer is to simply buy the Olympia and hold out for as long as I can at close range. The reason that I mostly choose the Olympia is that it is simply a very powerful weapon. But there is a rumor that each round the Olympia gets less powerful. Enough talking about me, here are some beginner tips on how to survive past round 15 and at the most, survive to round 30. One of the stratiges that most people use when on Kino der toten Xbox LIVE is that they buy a powerful weapon and all of the people run to different windows. Now here is a tip that might or might not help with defending the lobby in which you spawn in. Remember this, when you spawn, the zombies come first at the window up the stairs on the left. So if no one is there defending, I suggest that you run up there and kill the first zombie that comes at about 15 seconds after you spawn. Defending that window alone will give you enough cash to unlock the next door that is under the left staircase and it costs $750. Once you unlock the door, you should be on about level 3,4, or 5. Note, that on round 6, Hellhounds will spawn and you NEED room to move around. If you stay in one place you will most likely die. So keep that in mind. As soon as you can, unlock the next door. Which I think costs $1000. There is a weapon in the alley that I think is the AK-74U and I think it costs $1500. A lot of money for a gun I think don't you? Well I could tell you more but im out of time. Someone please write in the rest for me and that will be very appreciated. Thanks for reading!

Sincerely, Sincerely,ZombieGUID3R 23:14, July 6, 2011 (UTC)ZombieGUID3RSincerely,ZombieGUID3R 23:14, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

No multiplayer map
I read that the multiplayer equivlent to this map is Berlin Wall, but that is no where close to being similar to Kino Der Toten, the only similarity is that they are both in Berlin, nothing else is the same (eg: location, season, setting, etc.). So just leave it empty please. - Smilular talk 00:51, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

possible the canisters on this map are a reference to return of the living dead

== Multiple Gun Glitch!!!

Must have 2 guns. When buying a gun or taking your gun mystery box, throw grenade at same time to get that gun and keep your other guns. NOTE- This does work but only 70% of the time. Also, in beginning, at lobby, if you try w ==



is there a way to get out of any of the room u tellapot to for instance ive heard of a way to get out of the room with the chair aka surgiry room but never was able to do it 72.223.32.189 19:38, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

NO EASTER EGG WHY?
Ok so I notice that almost all the maps have E.E after the original character were introduce but Kino doesn't have one. I find that ODD. I think the E.E involed the black picture since takeo say "Perhaps what once was, is no more, but shall be again. and the song and the radio don't count because they have radio and song in all maps.I think the answer me be in samatha room

I think that is a reference to gersch as takeo says a similar quote at the end of the E.E in asenscion < sorry dont know how to spell it 109.149.142.245 10:12, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

1. Sign your posts.

2. Who cares! Not every zombie map has to have an easter egg. Five doesn't have one. Natch der Untoten doesn't have one. Verruckt doesn't have one. Shi No Numa doesn't have one! It doesn't matter.


 * 26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

I don't have a account to sign my post. 2 all the map you mention are before the character were introduce. treyarch haven't created a storyline yet and Shi no numa was the first to introduction the character and the storyline beside all Black ops have E.E. expect KINO or nobody had figure it out. but the picture it good start and beside how many forum are there about the empty picture and all the noise coming from the window ect. I just think these is one of the most imported zombie map there is. I also think these map take place after acession and that they went from acession to kino then to COTD and then shaigra-la

Erm not to burst your bubble, but only 4 maps have had a major easter egg, and the Fly Trap wasn't that big. And no, the timeline goes in chronological order, which means if a map came after another, then the newer map takes place after the previous unless Treyarch confirms it that the new map takes place before or at the same time as the older one.

It went Nacht der Untoten --> Verruckt --> Shi No Numa -->Der Riese --> Kino der Toten --> "Five" and Ascension --> Call of the Dead --> Shangri-La --> Moon

It is unknown when Dead Ops takes place. And Kino is full of Minor Easter Eggs, not 1 big fuck off one.

Ok how you know that the map are in chronological order I dought that Kino was going to be the 4map pack from W.A.W I think ascesion would of been the next map pack and Kino was just made up to re-introduce zombie to people like me that didn't have W.A.W and didn't know about zombie beside it make sense since at the start he say where the little girl went in ascession we see the girl after the E.E.in Der Reise hear sam but u don't see her the last stament about Der reise could be wrong since I never played the W.A.W maps but I think there is something left in KINO

How do I know that they are in chronological order? Ok, I'll explain, then counter your statement.

Nacht der Untoten --> Verruckt: It's the same Marines, and the Marines died at Verruckt.

Verruckt --> Shi No Numa: A radio in Shi No Numa which started the whole 'Zombie storyline' states that 'The Asylum was not contained'.

Shi No Numa --> Der Riese: Richtofen has a scar, which he did not have in Shi No Numa.

Der Riese --> Kino der Toten: Kino der Toten is set in the 60's, and Der Riese is set in the 40's.

Kino der Toten --> "Five" and Ascension: Dempsey states that freeing Gersch was a mistake when trapped in the closet in Call of the Dead, meaning they arrived at Call of the Dead immediatley after Ascension. The MDT also has never shown any signs that it can go back in time. Treyarch also confirmed that "Five" takes place at the same time as Ascension, and the easter egg with the "Five" phones also state this.

"Five" and Ascension --> Call of the Dead: Same as above. Richtofen also says he's gone "too far into the future".

Call of the Dead --> Shangri-La: Dempsey says that it's good to be out of the closet, and he mentions Sarah Michelle Gellar when Pack-A-Punching. The sound of teleporting also indicates that it takes place immediatley after being freed.

Ok, now onto your point, Kino was meant to be in Map Pack 4 for World at War, so it wasn't just made to reintroduce/introduce new players to Zombies. Map Pack 4 was cancelled due to Modern Warfare 2's release being too close to the date. Treyarch just brought Kino in as the first Zombies map in Fu*ks

Richtofen says "Where did that little girl go to?" in Kino der Toten's loading screen on solo/splitscreen. In Der Riese, a demonic voice is heard when doing the Fly Trap, which people assume is Samantha. But what does that have to do with Kino not having a major easter egg?

I agreed with you but since people always talking about the spacesuit it just make sence tha kino come after asecsion and it would put the spacesuit to rest.

also I was just looking at the Black ops zombie maps and all of them have a major E.E. to the story but not KINO so I started these section but trublood metion the other maps and it went left. I just think they could be more in KINO then we think plus Jimmy Zelinskie from TREYARCH said that all the E.E. haven't been discover and now with the REZURECTION mappack we could go back and discover new thing for the storyline I will try to get the quote a post on here. also how do you know that kino was going to be the 4map pack then that mean five would a been the firts zombie map in black ops to me kino it's definitly a re-introdution map so people could follow the storyline.

"Five" and Dead Ops Arcade don't have major easter eggs. See above, it was meant to be in Map Pack 4, so it was never intended to reintroduce people to Zombies. And if you look around Kino, its full of easter eggs. Not a major easter egg, but easter eggs. Treyarch has mentioned that it was meant to be in Map Pack 4. The Rezurrection map offers nothing new, just the Moon map. NDU, Verruckt, SNN and Der Riese were brought back in the Hardened and Prestige Editions of Zombies. Sure not all the easter eggs have been found, but you have to realise that doesn't mean major easter eggs, because they would of been found by now if they exsisted.

I'm not saying there major E.E. but like you say little thing the people would of miss and remeber the black ops version be re-masted with radio and loading screen and the character are now playable in all maps I just think that people overlook kino and there nothing major but there a lot of mystery in these map in my mind I think you could do something and the empty portrai will have a picture. I dought it but I just wanted to throw the idea out there.Also everyone always say the TREYARCH confirm these and that but when I got to they website I never see any confirmation about anything releated to zombie storyline if you have a link could you please post it

kino escape
Vincethe4th 08:27, August 20, 2011 (UTC)there is a way to escape kino and i have almost been able to put it all together heres what you need to do if you dont do it in this order you will not get it to work first shoot the first radio in the alley way on the ledge of a 2 story building out the zombie entrance by the double tap rootbeer machine most people need a sniper rifle i didnt next find 2 film reels there are only 4 film reels an you have to get the right 3 or else you it wont work its completely random but you need the chemical lab tape the multiple zombies tape and the sensory tape those 3 are key to fixing the next step an no there is no way of knowing which is which its all random the next thing is hitting the second radio on the shandolier by the teleporter you cook a grenade and throw it at it or use the raygun the next step is to play the song from the 3 rocks then you find the last film reel fire the rocket by hitting the use button on your controller in the pentegon room in the teleporting part and wait 15 to 20 rounds before it opens the door or knocks down the ladder hope someone out there can do this me an my friend have tried we got to the rocket but couldnt find the last film reel and wait for 15 to 20 levels enjoy (ff7victory) xbox360

What you mean wait 15 to 20 Level? wait to level 20 or After I play the song a shoot the rocket wait 15 to 20 level to look for the film?

Kino after ascension
Okay I had have a theory the kino come after ascesion. when you finish the E.E in ascesion you see sam in the sky. In the loading screen Richtofen say the followin things 1.Who would have thought the MDT was capable of time travel? in Der Riese they don't time travel they only teleported from one machine to another in call of the dead you have to disable the MDT security system and the gersh overloaded the MDT bring the too far in to the future 2. How many stations does this group have? so the following statement say how many station do they have? so he had to be in another stations meaning ascesion because he know about Der riese. and then 3. Where did that little girl disappear to? in the moon map the radio show richtofen know that sam is trap in the pyramind before Der reise happen so when he see her in ascesion that why he asked where she went too. and my biggest clue the Kino happen after ascesion is that when you go teleport to the conference room you see footage of J.F.K assassination and if five and ascesion take place at the sametime then KINO have to be after ascesion. why would footage of JFK death be there in kino if Kino came before ascesion MVME2NIGHT 19:30, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

No the Maps take place in the order they were released, Nacht, verruckt, Shi No Numa, Der RIese, KINO, 5 and ASCENSION at the same time, CotD, Shangri-la, Moon

<span style="font-family: 'Calibri', 'sans-serif'; font-size: 11pt; mso-ascii-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-fareast-font-family: Calibri; mso-fareast-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-hansi-theme-font: minor-latin; mso-bidi-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-bidi-theme-font: minor-bidi; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Okay then why do you see JFK assassination footage in KINO? that should be imposible if Kino is before five. Since JFK is dead