Forum:Halt Blogging

Blogging has gone too far, yesterday there were new guides on the hour every hour. The blogging ban was lifted and the bloggers given another chance, I've been discussing this with a few other senior members and admins, and they feel, as do I, that a blogging ban needs to be implemented so that the Real Life Page Project can continue, and the wiki can be improved. Blogging is clogging recent changes and there is way too much tension because of blogs, thoughts?  Warpig  3|1|2 12:08, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

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Support: I think we should halt blogging only if it is weapon guides or anything else. But there are some blogs that are too important to halt. "Ghost Rider" Talk 12:11, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Blogging needs to stop. NOW. There's too little attention going to blogs, not the mainspace where it is needed. 12:11, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I will again dispute how much "attention" is being diverted from mainspace because of blogs. If anything, more attention is being diverted because editors are more fussed about fighting against bloggers. And don't forget that people actually do other things than editing on CODwiki; surely you want to campaign against other hobbies as well? Kill off blogs for all I care, but continually using the "because we need to focus on mainspace" reason is poor. --Scottie theNerd 18:14, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support Blog spam is bad, and there'sm lots of it. 11th Explosion 

Oppose - Although I feel guilty for starting the guide fad, blogs are an important feature. A Lonely Nomad 12:14, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd like to dispute this. How important are blogs to the wiki? Wikis are encyclopedias first, and that is the primary purpose people visit the site for. Wikipedia, the mother of all wikis, functions well without the need for chat room and blogs. Wikia thought it would be a good idea to put all these frills to attract more users for all the wrong reasons. Most bloggers are using wikia blogs as a bulletin board or forum rather than a wiki. Anything you can "blog" on CODwiki is far better done on other gaming sites, such as GameFAQs and GameSpot. --Scottie theNerd 15:02, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - as nominator. Go elsewhere to blog, this wiki is an encyclopedia, the guides are being organized under COD:AAV anybody wo wants to make them can join and help out. I've started blogging fads, it's no big deal. THe point is that the blogging ban was lifted, the bloggers got another chance and abused it sorely.  Warpig  3|1|2 12:17, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - As i have stated before, there is no reason to have open topic blogging that has nothing to do with CoD games. If there is a need to blog about off topic subject it can be done elsewhere.  Talk 12:22, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I don't feel that the rationale is strong enough to suspend an aspect of the community. The recent edits list can be filtered to show only a particular namespace, so editors who are actively involved can screen the edits they are looking for, in addition to using the watchlist. Blogging doesn't stop any wiki project from going ahead, and I said previously we have just as much reason to stop people from playing the game, since that takes people away from major projects. There's no relation between people using the blogging function on the wiki and the amount of effort put into editing. I don't use or read blogs, so my main source of tension is from topics in the War Room, often ironically related to blogging policies. However, I do think that CODwiki is the worst place to have a blog, and users really shouldn't be joining the wiki just to write random blogs. "Halting" blogging is, in effect, disabling the blogging function and thus preventing anyone from using it on CODwiki. I don't know how feasible that is and we'll need clarification from admins over that issue. In short, blogs are the least of my personal concerns on this wiki, and I'm not clear on why we have to keep on hammering this issue. --Scottie theNerd 12:28, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * Halting blogs would encompass a ban on blogs, protecting the entire namespace. If the users don't want to come anymore, they don't have to, but it's still clogging recent changes, and some of us actually watch blogs to make sure no situations develop, we can't just stop watching them. And actually there is a relation between blogging and editing, because all of these silly blogs and comments are edits that are not only making their editcounts inflate, but clogging recent changes (I outlined why I can't just mark "exclude blogs" above) and distracting the community, very little work is being done, most edits are now blogs and their comments, specifically Call of Duty Wiki is not a blog. And we don't "keep on hammering this issue", as you know I was against any large blogging restrictions before, but the blogging ban was lifted, and blogging has just gotten more ridiculous. And they can protect the entire namespace.  Warpig  3|1|2 14:06, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't be surprised if productivity doesn't pick up even if we disable blogs. I don't like having blogs on wikia, but I'm not convinced that editors are "distracted" by blogging. I'd be interested to know how other wikias deal with blogging. --Scottie theNerd 14:54, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Per WHISKEY35. 12:33, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Change to Oppose - I know it is getting out of hand, but I agree with A lonely Nomad. Ghost Rider Talk 13:57, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - If you use the Activity Feed, you can barely see any mainspace. With all the blogs clogging it, it makes it harder to detect and revert vandalism.

Support - As a lot of supporters of this have said, it clogs up the Recent Changes, an area of this wiki where I am constantly paying attention to. Blogging also frequently adds images into the feed, which makes load times longer which can be a right pain when trying to read. The wiki is also a place for CoD information, not neccesarily for blogs where users start pointless fights with each other. As well as this, the whole "guide" blogs craze yesterday perfectly illustrated the ignorance of many users, as the Ask a Veteran notice has been shown at the top of each page for days, which is the correct place for these guides. -  14:12, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral - Scotland does makes a convincing point, but I am afraid that if we impose a straight down blogging ban, a "shit-storm", so to speak, will happen as it has before. I do see the benefits of a ban, but for now, I am staying neutral.   404 Error   File Not Found  Please Try Again 14:17, June 19, 2010 (UTC)


 * If complaints are not made calmly and politely, a warning would be issued, then a block. Shitstorms only happen if people can't be adults, so just act like adults, eh?  Warpig  3|1|2 14:19, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Aye, we could, but if a large amount of users start being idiots, as they did last time, we might end up blocking a large portion of the wiki. As for acting like adults, I certainly hope people do.   404 Error   File Not Found  Please Try Again 14:21, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * It shouldn't happen again. It turned into a "shit storm" last time because the blogging ban was sprung without any announcement. This is the forum for complaints and discussions to take place -- and we really need admins to follow this thread to follow it through to the end. --Scottie theNerd 14:59, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Oppose - Just tell people to only make one blog post per blog, and then take it to talk pages after that. --Slowrider7 15:04, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Changed Support to Oppose - Changed my mind. Blog = good, no blog = bad. User lacks mainspace edits. Slowrider7 15:11, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support- Everytime I check the feed, almost 90% or most of the feed comes from blogs. Hard to find vandals or articles that need editing. Or for me atleast. Munchable901 |TALK?  15:33, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - THIS HAS TO STOP! 16:42, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Neutral- Although blogging is a fun way to share stories and such, most blogs don't pertain to the game at all anymore. I would support temporarily banning blogs that don't have anything to do with CoD, but the ones which do soncern CoD should be allowed. Nick42294 16:33, June 19, 2010 (UTC)
 * Why just stop at temporary? If blogs are really detrimental, we need to permanently remove them. --Scottie theNerd 18:14, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Support - Bloggers are not helpful to the wiki. And this is a wiki if people want to blog about non CoD related things there are thousands of websites devoted to blogging they can go there. I am not convinced it will increase productivity alot it will likely get rid of the bloggers because without blogs they will have nothing to do they don't care for the mainspace it will clean house so to speak and within a month or two the bloggers will likely leave for good. My only question concerns the guides for AAV where will they be written? Other than that this is good we will eliminate the bloggers in one swift strike.Foxtrot12 17:13, June 19, 2010 (UTC)