Forum:Proposal for News Team additions

Hello all!

So I've been thinking about this for a while:


 * What if, instead of getting Smuff, N7 or CoD4 to do the weekly news roundup, we dissolve that and create a duty roster for admins, sysops and crats to create the weekly news roundup? This would certainly be an effective idea if passed, as it allows for variety.
 * I'm sure Smuff, N7 and CoD4 are tired of pushing the duty of this to each other,
 * And also I'm sure some of the crats/sysops/admins would like to try their hand at weekly news roundups (?)
 * Keep in mind that this is NOT pertaining to any news blogs like this or this.

I've talked to CoD4 and Sactage about this, so if we can get the community's approval, we can start a consensus and even create the roster here?

Opinions, people! 15:51, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion
It would be easier if we had more users doing the weekly round-ups as they're obviously set at weekly intervals and it doesn't have to be passed around as much, certainly helpful now as I beleive Sactage did the weekly news this week as opposed to any of the normal weekly news writers, also I haven't seen Smuff as of late, so that only leaves the 2 regulars of N7 and Cod4 to write them. 16:12, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Suff's on a holiday at the moment. -kat
 * Not sure if they'd allow normal users, like myself, rights to create news posts for the weekly roundups. Sactage's a crat, you're an admin and you're very responsible guys, hence why i only referred to admins, crats and sysops to get the weekly roundups done. I'm afraid users can't do it. 16:25, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * How does a sysop have any more ability of writing a blog than a normal user? Its not like when they get sysop they are told "secrets" as to how to write a blog and such. If we are to expand the userbase that can write the blogs, I suggest that anybody can write them. (if approved, of course) EDIT: As a matter of fact, Kat just became member of the news team, proving my point. 16:37, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm assuming the normal users you want to write the roundup are those with special rights (i.e. Custodian or Chat Mods)? Or every single person who wants to do it, to do it? 22:19, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea to me. It would add some variety into the news blogs. Conqueror of all Zombies 18:23, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

I like this idea. 18:27, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

What if a user, I'm using myself as an example for ease, wanted to try my hand at writing a weekly news blog? Would I go to an administrator and ask for a chance to be scheduled to write one? Would I have to prove my writing skill is that above a five year olds? 18:33, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm 8 and what is this. 18:35, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * It's mummy touching a strange man inappropriately. 18:45, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Seems fine by me. 19:16, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

While I don't like the idea of only limiting this to sysops, I would enjoy seeing some more diversity in the news blogs. Joe Copp 19:33, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Kat was added to the news team, although for clarity I think we should have "News team" and "Weekly news team" or something similar, unless Kat is a full on news team member now. 19:47, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not really trying to promote the idea of creating a NEW team, which comprise of people doing the roundup permenantly, rather allow everyone to have a go at it. However, I think, since most of the people here approve of the proposal, we can proceed with the consensus, and sign up those who can and want to join.
 * I'm not talking about scraping a news team, I'm just saying we clarify which users can post weekly news and which ones post the on the spot news. 23:24, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Who should do the news blogs?
1. Admins, Sysops and Crats only

2. Anyone with Special Rights, including chat mods, custodians, blog patrollers, etc

3. Anyone and everyone who wants to do it.

4. Dissolve the current roundup team and appoint a completely new one

Option 4
Joe Copp 23:06, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like the sound of this system. How exactly would this be evaluated, may I ask? 23:12, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * We could have the user in question write about a past event (as if it were present) and submit their work to be evaluated by an administrator, and if it's good, they can be allowed on the team. Joe Copp 23:21, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

23:12, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

-- 23:26, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * I like Azuris's plan, sounds a bit more organized and takes a bit of a load off of Users. 23:28, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * That was what I put forward earlier, clarity between the teams, I apoligise if I wrote it in a way that was seen incorrectly for scrapping a news team. But I agree that we should have different teams for different news blogs. 23:30, April 8, 2012 (UTC)
 * In light of this new proposition, I've scrapped the polls. 23:38, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Moving Along
Building off of what Azuris was saying, what groups would the news team be split up into? Too me it seems like the best option is simply a CoD News Team (Game Updates) and a Community News Team (End of Week News, Community Events, etc.) I don't really see where any other teams would fit. 03:25, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * We could even have some sub-categories, such as "technical game updates," "DLC updates," and "other." I don't think that would be necessary for the community section, however. Joe Copp 03:31, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Community would likely fall under other. They can likely do the weekly news, and any other news should someone in another category be busy. 04:10, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * We already have categories for news/community blogs. 04:15, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I meant "other" to be a subcategory of Call of Duty news, and "community" as a separate category. Joe Copp 04:16, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, I triped up on your wording, I misread as no need for community category. 04:23, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Great so we're going to have poorly made news blogs that me and Smuff will have to fix and make look better... Isn't this the whole reason we made a news team? ¬_¬ 10:25, April 9, 2012 (UTC) ??


 * Well thats what I believe that a requirement should be in order so "poorly made news blogs" won't be an issue yes? 10:36, April 9, 2012 (UTC)


 * So we're basically making a new news team even though the current one works fine? ok. 11:54, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

I believe that the "Community News Team" should be represented by different areas, such as a chat regular, a behind-the-scenes expert (so ID, WR regular), a sysop/crat, and a skilled writer (I've heard of a guy here that has a very high A-Level in English, he'll be perfect. Just my 2 pence. 11:47, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Still waiting on that close bracket. 17:06, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * I think that is a bad idea, having so called "regulars" from different parts of the wiki write them specifically would just lead to flame wars and un-necessary insults, which I do believe we have had past forums about. For the "behind-the-scenes expert", what is there to post about a WR or ID forum on the news blogs? If you want to know what is going on in either of them, go check them out, as they are already linked through the weekly news blogs. And for the "skilled writer", why do we need them? News is supposed to be straight-forward and to the point in the format we already have (weekly updates). You're complicating this far more than it needs to be. 21:08, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Per N7. 16:14, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Per n7. (totally not copy-and-paste) 21:08, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

We could just simply separate the news blogs into Call of Duty news and Community news, with no subcategories; each participant of said groups would take turns writing for each week. Joe Copp 21:12, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Sounds good to me. 21:15, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * Does this mean new members to the news team? Or are we just making categories for our current one? 22:15, April 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * For new members also. There are like four people on the current team so it would be a bit rediculous to separate only them. Joe Copp 02:57, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, why do we need a new news team? 09:39, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * We're not replacing any of the current members, but rather introducing some new ones. Joe Copp 15:05, April 10, 2012 (UTC)
 * why 15:07, April 10, 2012 (UTC)