Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

MP5K?
Wouldn't it be just an MP5 prototype, considering the MP5k is just a version ofthe MP5? Cpl.  Ross  21:55, July 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. It looks almost exactly like the MP5K, but with a different grip. 22:37, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

It looks like the MP5K, but upon closer examination, you can see that that is actually a folded stock. It has to be a prototype, because that was never actually made. The folded stock could have been used as a grip, but its actually not. Agreon 15:38, July 12, 2010 (UTC) Agreon

New G11 and China Lake Pump Action.
Thanks to who helped, Like Hax, Dolten, and more who was on the talk page of the weapons, As I have a feeling that the new G11 in the game, is gonna be sweet, 50 or 45 rounds, as for a assault rifle, and the China lake Pump action, I heard Lamia talk about it was on theb Commando in Payback, as I stated in Archive 9, last comment. Gsgt. Trayvin 13:11, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Thank your Dolten for Making the China Lake Pump Action, As it may have been major editted like the G11 Prototype Page I made.
 * Both pages have been deleted. Darkman 4 15:47, July 6, 2010 (UTC

.... Gsgt. Trayvin 21:23, July 6, 2010 (UTC) Why?Soldier of the Wasteland 18:24, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * "Please do not make any pages regarding the Call of Duty: Black Ops weapons that have not been seen in in-game footage. There is no point in making a page about a gun that we don't even have an in-game screenshot for." Darkman 4 18:25, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the quote is even on the top of the Wiki. --Tbsoldier sig.pngSoldier 18:27, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I was the one that put that quot there. :o Darkman 4 18:29, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * But people still don't see it. And plus its over there the whole time. --Tbsoldier sig.pngSoldier 18:30, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

China Lake bevestiging

 * Will come the titles and emblems back from modern warfare 2 to black ops????????
 * bye
 * bye

Campaign section with expansion template banner
Hey guys,

I am not really sure why "One of our forward unit pages is pinned down and needs expansion!" I do not really see how that section can be expanded, as it only covers the different levels/missions in the game that we currently know about. As there are not that many levels, we cannot expand upon it. I cannot see any point having the template; if there was more info that would need to be added then sure, but otherwise, no.

Attack Rhino (Talk - Contributions)01:39, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * ATM I don't see how the page needs to be "expanded" period. I'd say we have all the info that's out there right now. Darkman 4 01:51, July 7, 2010 (UTC)


 * Yeah, so that template banner thing should then be taken down. Attack Rhino (Talk - Contributions)13:55, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

Quote

 * "Mason, you fight like old Dimitri..."

When was this said? . 04:45, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I got the same question. And, DUDE, Reznov can't say Dimitri is old FFS. BRX 16:24, July 7, 2010 (UTC)BRX

I am removing all referance of this quote until proof is found.

Maybe he [Reznov] didn't mean it as old Demitri but rather as ole Demitri? Just a thought.. El Jellyfisho 20:17, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

What he meant was Mason fought like Dimitri, meaning he is the New Dimitri. if you know what i mean. Dempsy115 20:34, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

OMFG Dimitri is dead

He sees him as a war hero, just as Reznov did Dimitri. Or maybe he means he has lots of close encounters. And, it may be an easter egg thing. Reznov doesn't have to say it, just whoever your commanding officer is, even though no one is going to know Dimitri as he is just another name on the Russian front to everyone else. So, its just an easter egg to mean that you are amazing, or get hurt and live a lot, even though Reznov and Dimitri are both long dead. Agreon 15:34, July 12, 2010 (UTC)Agreon


 * Reznov ain't dead in Black Ops. As you see [[File:Reznov 7.jpg]] he's chillin' in the tunnel. BRX 14:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)BRX
 * I don't want to sound like the desperate kids but do you think dimitri will be in black ops? Warpanda13 15:04, July 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is no reason that he doesn't come back, but dudes from Treyarch said that Reznov is coming back. They would probably say it for Dimitri too if he would be coming back. BRX 11:37, July 14, 2010 (UTC)BRX

Co-Op Campaign
So what we know is that the co-op campaign will be entirely seperate from the SP campaign, but in an interview when asked about the zombie mode someone from Treyarch said (and I quote) "We cannot talk about the Co-op campaign at this time". Now this leads me to the rather obvious conclusion that the co-op campaign is a zombie campaign. If anybody could help me with the citing that would be great. El Jellyfisho 20:40, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * Unless somebody from Treyarch outright says "the coop mode will be the zombie mode" we are not adding it. This page has been protected just to remove speculation, which is what your comment is. Darkman 4 02:51, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
 * aww man i loved the co op campaign in WAW Emblem-abrams.jpg textsigsoap.gif

Yeah, but it would be cooler if they create something new and better. I loved the first CoD, but I wouldn't like it realesed again. :) BRX 08:49, July 8, 2010 (UTC)BRX

""We cannot talk about the Co-op campaign at this time". Now this leads me to the rather obvious conclusion that the co-op campaign is a zombie campaign." YEH nice logic there --Ashwilso12 17:45, July 8, 2010 (UTC)

On the back of the black ops poster, it gives a phone number, when you call it, it plays the mystery box song. Codfan 21:55, July 9, 2010 (UTC)Codfan


 * It plays a bundle of jingles mixed in with morse code that sounds nothing like the mystery box. 18:38, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Gameplay Videos
How come no one has put in the gameplay video of WMD. Hunter Steven 06:54, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Noticed that too. 07:15, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Modding/Hacking.
Man, I hope they add some sort of anti-cheat system like Valve's VAC system to stop all those modders and hackers that MW2 suffers from. Ouroboros Omega 17:09, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe treyarch won't be stupid enough to leave unfinished code (eg IW's gold desert eagle), and if there are grenade launchers, I will NOT buy the game. Cpl.  Ross  21:58, July 9, 2010 (UTC)

There will probably be a 99.9% chance of launchers being in multiplayer. What Treyarch can do however is make it so they only come with one shot and cannot be equiped along side danger close or fire works. 22:07, July 9, 2010 (UTC)


 * And that they are unlocked last as an attachment. BRX 23:32, July 9, 2010 (UTC)BRX
 * i think they should decrease the damage of the granade launcher and remove the ability to have a direct impact. remi305
 * I think we can be certain that grenade launchers will return in multiplayer, still have two shots etc etc and i would safely say you would be able to use a dangerclose type perk with it, other wise it would be useless as a perk. i guess treyarch will make it so you cant replenish them at all (i.e oma or scavenger type perks) and probs will be the last unlocked attachment, like in WaW --Ashwilso12 09:15, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we can be certain that grenade launchers will return in multiplayer, still have two shots etc etc and i would safely say you would be able to use a dangerclose type perk with it, other wise it would be useless as a perk. i guess treyarch will make it so you cant replenish them at all (i.e oma or scavenger type perks) and probs will be the last unlocked attachment, like in WaW --Ashwilso12 09:15, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think we can be certain that grenade launchers will return in multiplayer, still have two shots etc etc and i would safely say you would be able to use a dangerclose type perk with it, other wise it would be useless as a perk. i guess treyarch will make it so you cant replenish them at all (i.e oma or scavenger type perks) and probs will be the last unlocked attachment, like in WaW --Ashwilso12 09:15, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, they should leave its stats as they are but make it so that more grenades cannot be obtained (e.g. Scavenger), it should be the last attachment unlocked (it should be hard like trying to get the extended magazines upgrade in MW2) and the grenades should detonate automatically after a set distance (auto detonation shouldnt be as powerful as impact detonation for balance reasons or a new breed of grenade spamming may be born) either that or the grenades should cease to function after a set distance so they wont even explode or impact upon someone when they land (to prevent long-range spamming like on Wasteland on MW2). The most primrary concern I have though is things like 10th prestige hackers, rapid-fire button users and all of the other mods/hacks (like the one in MW2 that makes you move really fast backwards) Agreed? Ouroboros Omega 14:58, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * I think the damage of the grenade launcher should be increased, and it should be the last attachment to unlock, it'd be good if it took something like 1000 kills to unlock, too. 18:38, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * GUY ABOVE ME: I totaly agree with that so experienced playes can haz break whal NOOBZ have to WORK
 * There are dedicated servers in BO. So, there won't be hacked-without-alert servers. Servers will be like in CoD4/CoD5. On Xbox/PS3 hacking is unfixable. SiPlus 12:20, July 12, 2010 (UTC)

3 questions about the Demo
1st. On the demo's, stage or another demo, When he gets to a weapon like a Ak-47, it's buttstock and the other wood parts are coloured.

2nd. When your entering a cave, about to take the hind, but when your in the cave, you see bodies ripped in half, but the question is, when swift gets stabbed, adn you walk in a big place with Viet Cong fighters, they shoot you, and you pretty much die, And do you not play with the same guy in Payback?

3rd: Pause at 1:29 on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGAfhNbfphk&feature=related, it is slowed down, who is that guy? is it a ghost? a zombie? a general? what? Gsgt. Trayvin 17:15, July 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * 2nd: I think you CAN kill the Viet Cong in that big place. It looks like there is just 2 of them, but Mark Lamia screwed it up while he was playing. He also almost died in Payback before entering the Hind.
 * 3rd: I saw some other analysis where they say more of these characters were shown (like these dudes |here said at 4:00) and that they are from Create a Class 2.0. BRX 20:25, July 10, 2010 (UTC)BRX

_ _ _ _
 * 1) That isn't even a question, it's just an observation. But yes, it is indeed an AK-47. The name appears when he walks over it. It is not some other AK variant.
 * 2) You don't die, the guy playing just sucks. You still play as the same guy.
 * 3) Hard to tell. I'm not going to make any assumptions. Imrlybord7 20:32, July 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hey, just replying to the 3rd question. I believe that this will be the HUD in the Create A Class 2.0 system where you can customise your MP character. This is supported in this IGN video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=292tCSCvFQY&feature=related at 3:57 minutes Tom LV69 09:24, July 15, 2010 (UTC)

Imrlybord7, it's a WASR-2. Just because it says it's an AK-47 doesn't mean it is one. 92.27.77.163 23:00, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Talking Characters
It should be noted that thsi is the first Call of Duty game, or atleast the first Treyarch game, where the playable character speaks whilst playing as them. Kranitoko (talk) 21:25, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

That should be featured in the trivia. I think it already is. 21:27, July 11, 2010 (UTC)

You Know in the AC130 misson in COD 4? You can hear yourself talk. Also if you played call of duty 2, in the tank missions, you can hear yourself talk.
 * I fixed your grammar a bit. We don't need lolcat-speak here. Also can you sign your posts please? Freekkiller7 11:57, July 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Im sorry, Thanks and i will make an account now.69.207.147.154 23:23, July 13, 2010 (UTC) Person with no account

Playble characters
Can i play with Major Badanov in the game?

Playble characters
hudson and mason are 2 confirmed characters

Can i play with Major Badanov in the game? :)
no BRX 14:31, July 13, 2010 (UTC)BRX But if you click on Thomas link, someone wrote that Major Thomas and Major Badanov are the highest ranked playble players.Sgt.Salvator:NCR Rangers 16:14, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but the highest ranked playable characters in the Call of Duty SERIES. Major Badanov is from Finest Hour. BRX 21:56, July 13, 2010 (UTC)BRX

DVK
I was just reading a thread on the Treyarch forums that was stating that DVK (Damage View Kick) should be removed from the game so that instead of your screen and your sights jumping when you are shot (e.g. MW2), just the screen would jump to let you know that you have been hit (+bloody screen effect + damage indicator) but your gun will not be affected by a sudden jump when ADS (e.g. COD4:MW) and thus this would correct some of the imbalance issues caused by DVK. I would have posted this on the discussion page for MW2 but one of posts in the thread was by Vahn (cant remember his full name or his position but his account had employee ID) who stated that DVK was going to be used in COD:BO. DVK was meant to help low-skill players but has simply resulted in most fights coming down to who shoots first and whose gun has less recoil (The ACR causes lots of DVK due to its high rate of fire and low recoil thus resulting in constant view jumps). At any rate I just thought that I should pass this along so that people can have a chance to object or applaud this decision.

BTW I am against DVK but to each their own right?

Link: http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=244798&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&sid=082cdaf0957eb75f5bc97680c815e582

Also, just a quick heads up if you use the link, beware of the posts by a guy named Vileself, He is a blatant troll who has been banned from the IW forums and he posts alot in the thread.

Anyone else have anything to say on this subject? Ouroboros Omega 23:39, July 13, 2010 (UTC)

You know they could just remove DVK but keep the screen jump and just add directional damage indicators so that the screen jumps to notify you of taking a hit and you know which direction you have been shot at from but your aim isnt thrown off so a counter-attack becomes possible like in COD4. DVK is the reason why so many have trouble hardscoping or using SMGs. Ouroboros Omega 23:28, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I partially agree, but imagine that you got a silenced weapon and shoot a camper with a sniper. He could easily kill you. I'm not really sure what should they do. BRX 11:14, July 14, 2010 (UTC)BRX

IrEpicWinnur 12:48, July 15, 2010 (UTC)New box artIrEpicWinnur 12:48, July 15, 2010 (UTC)
i found this at xbox.com,comments?

should the box art be added?

That box art has been around for a while. You can see it at the end of the uncut trailer that says, "Pre-order now for xbox." 20:51, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

M16A1
I don't have a link for the page, but if you go to BlackOpsnews.com and click on Weapons, then Assault Rifles, the M16A1 is listed at the bottom of the page.

17:01, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

Link - http://www.codblackopsnews.com/weapons/assault-rifles/ 00:31, July 18, 2010 (UTC)


 * That site is truly awful. I find it notably funny that they merged their 'News' and 'Speculation' pages together now. --Ashwilso12 09:16, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

All of the guns shown there have screenshots from trailers. Except the M16, which does not have a picture from black ops. Bumblebeeprime09 22:24, July 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure it's been highly speculated that the M16 is one of the guns on the person in the cover's back, and that's why it's been added there. Also, I find it notably funny that you call the site awful without anything to back that statement up other than the fact that they removed the Speculation section so that all News would be in one feed. F Brushfire 22:43, July 19, 2010 (UTC)

I agree, the gun has not been seen in-game. But the evidence points to it being a likely inclusion. It has been seen in promo material, such as the magazine cover used in the sites listing. Also, the M16 was basically the gun of the Vietnam War. I would be very surprised if it did not appear in the game. And by all means, DO NOT disrespect the CBON community. It is a great site with great people who care about the game, and there is nothing wrong with that. Peace! Mike1094 00:00, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Ed here (aka CoDBlackOpsNews admin) - good to hear all the positive feedback! Seriously though, we included M16A1 because it was seen on a Spanish magazine cover before Black Ops was announced, and also on the French OXM cover when that was announced. (http://img835.imageshack.us/i/callofduty7magazinecove.jpg/ and http://img835.imageshack.us/i/oxmfr.jpg/ )

Also, I'm not quite sure what you mean about merging the News and Speculation - do you mean on the main page or in terms of weapons? I agree that the website still definitely needs improvements, and although a lack of time dictates that I can't make all the improvements I'd like as quickly as I like, I'm always trying to improve.

Anyway, I said on our forums: "In my opinion, we're not competing with CoD Wiki, they provide hands-down the best factual information on Call of Duty, we try to impart as much as possible to the masses." 86.151.149.81 00:03, July 20, 2010 (UTC) Ed

Bad news everyone... and I mean REALLY bad news.
Activision may press for MP subscription fees.

Link: http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/110/1106742p1.html

So for xbox 360 players like me that means we have to pay for live, buy the game and then pay for a monthly subscription or something to play the MP online.

If Activision follows this guys advice then they really have their heads stuck up non-regulation places. Ouroboros Omega 00:07, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Josh Olin tweeted this as false. Breath easy gentlemen! :D Mike1094 00:10, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Source: http://twitter.com/jd_2020 - Thanks Josh. :P FBrushfire 00:17, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Its false? Oh thank god *sigh of relief* Ouroboros Omega 00:20, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

No shit it's flase. A brain-dead monkey could figure that out.

Don't believe everything you see on the internet folks. 00:24, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

http://pc.ign.com/articles/110/1107019p1.html Over and out. Chief z 00:42, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

Would it EVER be any different. 00:46, July 20, 2010 (UTC)