Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

Wow
Ten archives and counting! I think it's safe to say this is the biggest thing that's ever happened to this wiki. WouldYouKindly 01:01, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

And it's only going to get bigger if people keep unnecessarily posting about how amazed they are by the size of it! Imrlybord7 03:56, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of big, should we make 2 main pages or somting?--Slacky!!! 17:17, September 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * lolwut? Imrlybord7 23:24, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

It seems that this page died real fast as soon as the MW2 weapon pages were made. :P Darkman 4 00:58, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Callsigns
Should we should put a callsigns section in the article? the videos show enough of them to make a decent list.(i want to hear peoples thought on what the "surgical" callsigns all about. medic ability's anyone?) I'm going to say that it's going to be much like the "rescuer" allocation. Where you get it from continually saving your teammate (kill the person shooting at them) Irish Corps 04:30, September 30, 2009 (UTC)Irish_Corps

Many knife kills?

There are too many. Callsigns should just get their own page when the game comes out. But they should at least get a small section of the main article. Imrlybord7 23:24, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

US Army Ranger character
If you look on the front of the PSM3 review of Modern Warfare 2, there is a US soldier there. Maybe he is the Ranger that's supposed to train Roach. And at the second to last page, he really looks like the front person. DevilWarrior112 08:06 September 29, 2009.

Create-a-Class vid (shows Camo Section)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpBiPOhIHeM&feature=related

I Can see, Desert, Arctic, Woodland, and Red Tiger, which we know of already but i can also see two shorter ones which i cant read the 5th and 6th ones down. The 5th one down seems to have a P or Y in it but i cant really tell. --Cpt Jack House 07:49, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

i see blue tiger and digital at the bottom, cant make out the other ones. Patrickd13 12:10, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

at 0:29 on the very bottom, it says classified I think. It's a long word starting with a "C". could it be gold again? Ferrariguy1000 13:40, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

For one thing, this is very old; I added the camo list to the article a while ago. As a I said to Cod4 earlier, everyone should know what is on the page so that they don't waste time with these pointless discussions. Secondly, do not add any "Classifieds" to the article (this goes for Perks, attachments, camos, etc.). There could very well be (and probably will be) more of each in the final game, and if we don't know what they are it isn't useful information. Imrlybord7 00:27, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Relax, didn't know the list was complete, so i thought there could be more camos and at first i could not see what the to were so i thought maybe there would be something new(after getting a second look the camos were Urban and Digital). --Cpt Jack House 20:04, September 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm not trying to sound angry, just authoritative. Imrlybord7 01:10, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Commando
I'm under the impression that commando is what we saw in the E3 demo where roach holds his USP with the knife underneath. Has anyone actually confirmed tactical knife as an attachment? I don't remember seeing it anywhere explicitly mentioned as an attachment. OmgHAX! 16:16, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

If what you said was correct, then the perk would be useless unless you were using a pistol or machine pistol. Imrlybord7 17:30, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Not necessarily, its most visible with the pistol but might also have a less obvious effect with primaries. We haven't seen much use of the knife in the gameplay footage we've seen. Reason I'm asking is because both seem to do the same thing, so a perk and an attachment would seem redundant. OmgHAX! 18:26, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

40 confirmed Accolades
I found it while searching the IW forums. I hope it was not posted yet. if it is, I'll shoot myself...nah, I won't shoot myself.

http://forums.infinityward.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=110746

List from the thread (hope it's not too much XD):

Unstoppable: Longest killstreak

Devastation: Highest multikill

Clutch Player: Match Winning Kill

Overkill: Most kills/Most headshots

Supernatural: Kill/Death ratio over 10

Decimator: Killed entire enemy team without dying

Top Gun: Most Airstrikes

Blindfire: Most bullet penetration kills

Hot Potato: Most grenades thrown back

Rescuer: Most rescues

Marksman: Most longshots

Upriser: Most kills of higher rank

Genocidal: Most multikills

Sniper: Most stationary kills

Unbreakable: Most bullets deflected

Switchblade: Most knife kills

Fragger: Most frag grenade kills

Grenadier: Most grenade kills

Symtex Pro: Most symtex kills

CQB: Most SMG kills

Buckshot: Most shotgun kills

Smoking Gun: Most pistol headshots

Boomstick: Most shotgun headshots

Survivalist: Most equipment kills

Exterminator: Most thumper kills Sprayer: Most hipfire kills

Nomad: Longest distance traveled

Loaner: Most kills with enemy weapons

Sneaker: Most time spent crouched

Grassy Knoll: Most time spent prone

Weapon Rack: Most weapon swaps

High Command: Highest average altitude

Grudge Match: Most kills of same player

Evolver: Most classes changed

Accident prone: Most suicides

Terminal: Shortest life

AFK: No kills/No deaths

Bomb Expert: Most bombs planted

Bomb blocker: Most bomb carrier kills

Dominator: Most points captured

Flag Capturer: Most flags captured

Flag Returner: Most flags returned

Double Threat: Most kills as flag carrier

Flanker: Most kills from behind

Ferrariguy1000 23:01, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

Very nice, but too many to list in the article. Like Callsigns, these should get their own page once the game comes out. Imrlybord7 23:24, September 29, 2009 (UTC)

New Trailer
New trailer out on the 4th -- 00:31, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Also of note: "@geoffkeighley Always good to see you man. This next week and a half is going to be sensory overload!" By the sound of it, there's either going to be more than one trailer or another reveal at some point in the next week and a half. WouldYouKindly 05:41, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

either that, or a floodgate of info like in the September 15th event. I hope they show the F2000 in this one. :) Ferrariguy1000 14:29, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's going to feature never before seen footage of single-player. GeneralDemon500 14:48 October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Unconfirmed locations
A couple of weeks ago, I bought the PSM3 Preview of MW2 and saw on the location part something juicy... It had all confirmed locations, Eg, Rio De Janiero, Afghanistan, Russia/Siberia, Kazakhstan. But it had two unconfirmed locations. First up was Space. Now some of you might have seen that DevilWarrior112 said about a Space level. Next was Chernobyl. But don't worry it might be a Special Ops mission. GeneralDemon500 15:53 October 1, 2009.

On the cover of the regular edition is the masked soldier with a burning building behind him. That burning building is the Capitol Rotunda, so as stated under the trivia section on the main page 'Whiskey Hotel' W.H. could be the White House- Prototype Ordo. 2:27 4 Oct. 2009

New Grenade Physics
Just dug this up from OXM #102:

"Infinity Ward's added more physics to bouncing grenades. Since they no longer roll like a round ball, you'll never be quite sure where they'll bounce to."

402's twitter confirms this as well:

"@GibsonD90 Grenades actually HAVE physics now. Before they did not, so they'll react realistically to the environment and world around them."

So by the sound of it, there are going to be a lot more ways to use frags strategically since they added better physics effects to grenades (rolling them down a hill, for instance) WouldYouKindly 05:48, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

TGS 2009?
Why is it still in the article. The event was five days ago. Ferrariguy1000 20:54, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

Good reasoning. After MW2 comes out we should delete its page and all of the pages related to it, seeing as how at that time the game will have already been released. Imrlybord7 03:48, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

HOLY SHIT, PEOPLE.
For the last time, do not add manufacturer names to guns unless they are labeled as such in the game. Imrlybord7 01:12, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

If you're referring to the ACR (which I'm assuming you are), sorry, that was a stupid accident on my part. Happened when I changed the link to the wiki's article from Wikipeda's.  01:24, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

Is there any reason to type in all caps and act like its ultimatum? People make mistakes. 01:29, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think he was assuming that someone had come in and purposefully added the manufacturer's name. It has happened multiple times before and been discussed on the talk page; there was one extreme case where someone added the manufacturer name to EVERY gun in the list (sorry for the all caps ;) ) 01:32, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

No problem and thanks for providing the reasoning for my annoyance, in that order. Imrlybord7 03:46, October 1, 2009 (UTC)

weapon pages?
why are there weapon pages? Someone put pages for: WA2000, UMP .45, Vector, L86 LSW, and the W 1887. Ferrariguy1000 00:20, October 2, 2009 (UTC)
 * Forum:Modern Warfare 2 weapon pages was passed with flying colors. They've been made now so that when the game comes out, we will already have something to work with. 00:30, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

IGN article on callsigns
Goes in depth about callsigns. Confirms there are at least 594 possible callsigns, each with unique text and backgrounds. Also confirms there are now 70 levels per prestige, might be old news but I don't see it mentioned in the article anywhere. 164.107.91.224 03:19, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

MP44?
Will there be a Nostalgia gun like in MW? --Slowrider7
 * We don't know yet. Darkman 4 03:42, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Well, there is the Winchester 1887. As old as it is, it still doesn't seem nostalgic to me since it isn't a well known gun. Imrlybord7 06:03, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Names of the levels !
Guys i found some names of the levels:

‘The Hornet’s Nest’

‘Takedown’

‘Wolverines!’

‘Exodus

‘The Only Easy Day… Was Yesterday’

‘The Gulag’

‘Contingency’

‘Of Their Own Accord’

‘Second Sun’

‘Whiskey Hotel’

‘Loose Ends’

‘The Enemy of My Enemy’

‘Just Like Old Times’

‘Endgame’

‘S.S.D.D’

‘Team Player’

and ofc ‘Cliffhanger’

--NooBiBoy 18:13, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * We need a source before we can put that in an article-- 18:14, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * No problem !

http://www.mw2blog.com/full-modern-warfare-2-achievement-list/

NooBiBoy


 * Good find!. We'll add them to the article when an editor gets the chance. -- 18:23, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Always glad to help my Call of Duty brothers ^^ --- NooBiBoy

Excellent find NooBiBoy. Something else I found interesting: Some Like it Hot: Kill 6 enemies in a row using a thermal weapon in Single Player or Special Ops.

"Thermal weapon"? Maybe we'll see a flamethrower or molotovs again? Maybe even Thermite Grenades! WouldYouKindly 18:28, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: or maybe it just means a thermal-scoped weapon. Time will tell I guess. WouldYouKindly 18:31, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Lol agt the red dawn reference, confirms ultranationalist invasion of US beyond the shadow of a doubt. OmgHAX! 19:33, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

How do you know? DevilWarrior112 20:40 October 2, 2009.


 * Red Dawn's a movie about a soviet invasion of America. One of the achievements is called red dawn, and one of the levels, "Wolverines!", is a line from the movie. OmgHAX! 20:43, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Shepherd
I looked at the achievements and said "Become part of Shepherd's elite squad". Is there going to be a character caled Shepherd? DevilWarrior112 20:46 October 2, 2009.


 * Shepard is more than likely Kieth David's character, who is a US Army Ranger. I think this confirms that you play as a US Army ranger now, as well as Roach Bald Eagle Brennan 20:32, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought it was said that he trains Roach. --Cpt Jack House 22:32, October 2, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not neccessarily, if there is not explicit evidence that he trains Roach, then we cannot be sure. Anyway, why would the Cliffhanger operation be executed by an SAS and a Ranger? Two reasons, a) I think they would have another SAS operator to spare, b) no offence to anyone, but I think the SAS would rather their own guys (as they know how to work together better and they are better trained). Attack Rhino 10:17, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Achievement Guide
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW1Y0suhMYo&feature=sub Their is a new video on youtube about the achievements, we can conform alot now--65.95.53.6 20:54, October 2, 2009 (UTC) http://www.xbox360achievements.org/game/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2/achievements/ It was took from that but nice find --Bartekko 21:12, October 2, 2009 (UTC) We Have a confirmation of achievement earned in Rio video(3 enemies w' one shot of grenade launcher)--Bartekko 21:38, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

I've noticed that some of the achievements have the same names as the multiplayer challanges in Call of Duty: World at War. 22:48, october 2, 2009 (UTC)

When i posted the video i found that their is a achievement about "the Pitt", sounds like something from fallout, and srry, i was using a different web browser when i posted it, wasn't signed in.--B00mD0m3Sh07 13:02, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

What about these weapons?
The AN-94 and the Neostead? Those guns are like diamonds to me in real life.
 * Er, what? Darkman 4 22:33, October 2, 2009 (UTC)

Neither of those have been spotted, let alone confirmed in actual gameplay. AND SIGN YOUR POSTS. OmgHAX! 00:04, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

confirmed multiplayer maps
DigiKamo 02:33, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

The following 3 maps have official gameplay footage released:
 * Highrise
 * Favela
 * Afghan

The remaining maps listed below are referenced HERE
 * Estate
 * Quarry
 * Wasteland
 * Invasion
 * Uprise
 * Underpass
 * Scrapyard
 * Rust

'''Could someone please add this information to the Modern Warfare 2 Multiplayer section? Thanks,''' DigiKamo 02:33, October 3, 2009 (UTC)


 * There is also one called Derail http://www.gamertagradio.com/vbportal/forums/showthread.php?t=11888 also reveals one special ops mode map. --Cpt Jack House(and cudaboy54)

Nice Find!! J-money October 3, 2009 12:06 (UTC)

Achievements
Should we really have all the achievements on the page? I think we should make a separate page for them, as well as with the callsigns, bonuses and accolades, and then have a small section on the page titled something else like "Rewards." What does everyone else think? I'll make the pages if no one else already has. 15:02, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. J-money October 3 2009, 12:04 (UTC)

I completely agree.74.137.134.152 16:16, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Alright, I'm going to start making the pages but I'm going to hold off on changing the main page until I get more input.16:56, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

I'm putting the XP Bonuses on the XP page, just to let everyone know. 17:11, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

The pages have been made. Also, can anyone tell me why my timestamp is appearing on the line below my signature? 18:00, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Killstreaks
I recently noticed that killstreaks now stack IE: if you get a UAV and then get an Airstrike without using the UAV you can use the UAV after using the Airstrike. i didnt see it on the article so ill add it. --Cpt Jack House

Two more multiplayer maps
Two confirmed maps were left off of the list.

Terminal, Sub Base

These should be added. I have pics of player statuses if you need any.

--Thanks

Warden

Website
Infinity Ward just did a major overhaul of the CoD: MW2 website. It's freaking amazing.20:48, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

Hell of an improvment! DevilWarrior112 09:19 October 4, 2009 (UTC).

MW2 Xbox?
A personal sidenote, should I turn in all of my xbox crap and get a MW2 xbox? I think its worth it, but some think otherwise. I might have to turn to gamestop and get estimates. I probably wont sell it to them, Ill get like $50. lmao.slowrider7

Only if you REALLY want it, or if your current Xbox is malfunctioning --Cpt Jack House 18:34, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Surprize Attack
Have you heard of the game on GameStop? I'm on it but haven't won anything. DevilWarrior112 09:21 October 4, 2009 (UTC).

Slowrider7

Claymores and C4 are equipment
source OmgHAX! 14:54, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

It also says "5 years after MW1" at 0:41. Looks important.Ferrariguy1000 15:06, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

Saw this comming but at least its 100% confirmed --Cpt Jack House 16:08, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

I am so happy that C4 won't take up a perk slot. My intended classes just get better and better. Hell yeah! Imrlybord7 00:08, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

New Trailer
The new trailer will be on NBC tonight during Sunday Night Football. The uncut version will also be posted instantly to the internet.-- 15:36, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

MW2 Home Page
I just clicked Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2's home page and it siad cite error. Who the hell did this? DevilWarrior112 17:25 October 4, 2009

No problems on my end. I don't know why it isn't working for you. IIID Empire 09:30 October 4, 2009

Names of Special Ops levels ! (NOT ALL !)
Hi guys i found some names of Special Ops levels (NOT ALL !)

* Breach and Clear

* O Cristo Redentor

* Sniper Fi

* Hidden

* Suspension

* Body Count

* Acceptable Losses

* Bomb Squad

* Estate Takedown

* Time Trial

* The Pit

* Snatch & Grab

* Terminal

* Wreckage

* Overwatch

* Big Brother

* Evasion

* Race

* Wardriving

---NooBiBoy

Do you have a source? Cpl. Wilding 18:37, October 4, 2009 (UTC) -

Yeah no problem

http://www.mw2blog.com/modern-warfare-2-special-ops-missions/

Ive already posted all campaign mission if you go up a bit :P -NooBiBoy

Pretty interesting video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0Yxw4oJcNQ&feature=related

It shows quite a bit of info, and I also think we should use these weapons pictures until we can get real ones from the game. Slowrider7

Don't worry, this video isn't over 2 weeks old or anything. Imrlybord7 05:24, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Video is Live!
I just can't get on this site...-- 00:26, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * DC is 100% confirmed as a location now. Darkman 4 00:34, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't see any new weapons outside of the Minigun and RPG-7. Note that the weapon the first guy is holding in the Airplane footage is a M4, not a SCAR-L.


 * Looks like you can use Machine Pistols while on vehicles, as the CoD:MW2 Guy uses it while on a boat. Darkman 4 00:38, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

GAH! why can't I see the video? its like they haven't even uploaded it. OmgHAX! 01:07, October 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not the best quality, but here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnfrp6sZ8zI Ferrariguy1000 01:16, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, I followed 402's link to the IW site, turns out they posted on youtube first. Also, does a spade mean paratrooper? Because I see it on some of the US soldiers and I think they're supposed to be rangers. OmgHAX! 01:23, October 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * High quality IW on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8toHfZm6jNE Ferrariguy1000 01:25, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Epic stuff... DC under attack. --Cpt Jack House 01:43, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

I jizzed on the screen when i saw this lol--70.48.100.167 01:48, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

HO. LEE. SHIT. IGN has a pretty good quality one. http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14281102/call-of-duty-6/videos/mw2_trl_campaigntrailer_100209.html The Sum of All Fears anyone? The last time I fought in DC was EA's Jungle Strike for the Sega Genesis. Chief z 05:09, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Didn't you guys try infinityward.com for the video? Its been working there for a couple of hours.IIID Empire 10:11 pm, October 4, 2009

Did anyone see Washington DC? I saw the Washington Monument then the White House, so it looks like we'll be fighting in America after all! DevilWarrior112 07:43 October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Hmmm, reasonably epic. For what the video shows, IW has not done too much to the graphics engine, which is a huge disappointment. I hope it looks better than that. I also hope the levels in DC are going to be really good, and not just rely on the nice scenery. Attack Rhino 07:04, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

I just watched a special on History Channel about what would happened in case of a nuclear attack on DC, with images not unlike the ones on the vid. I could only think about MW2 while watching it. I'm also hearing there is a 5 minute version of the trailer, yet I can't seem to find it. Is this true? Chief z 10:16, October 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, the Washington Monument in the trailer and the Capitol Building on the boxart bare an uncanny resemblance to the ones in Fallout 3. 10:54, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Look at 0:54... Is that Nikolai? WouldYouKindly 17:55, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Nikolai?
On the new video, I saw at 0:54 that had the Nikolai fatigues and green shirt. Could that be his return? He had alot of potential in the first game. I hope so... Slowrider7

I thought I saw him too. It totally looks like him:

http://i36.tinypic.com/nmdir5.jpg

Ferrariguy1000 01:55, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

It does kinda look like him, but it's definitely not enough to make a confirmation. It would be interesting to see him again though. 01:58, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Call of Duty PC $60
According to Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Call-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Pc/dp/B00269QLJ2

Best Buy http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9276543&type=product&id=1218073195024

And many other sites Modern Warfare 2 will cost $60.

Should this be added to Trivia?


 * Is it really that relevant, really? Attack Rhino 10:59, October 5, 2009 (UTC) P.S. Please sign your posts, so we know who you are. :)

Player Apperances?
I recall hearing somewhere (game mag, I think) players could choose their gear in multiplayer, akin to Metal Gear Online (shitty comparison, I know). Doesn't seem to be the case in what I've seen, however.

Archive
Pl0x? Takes 5 min to load the page at school-- 17:35, October 5, 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe you just shouldn't use school computers to look up this game. Mine loads fine, and there's a lot less stuff on this talk page now than usual. 164.107.91.229 17:43, October 5, 2009 (UTC)

Whiskey Hotel = White House
I just caught onto that, it seems so obvious now. I just needed the new trailer to make the gears click into place. I'm guessing that at least the three missions associated with the "Homecoming" achievement, including "Whiskey Hotel", take place in D.C./America. There are rumors going around that there's a battle in Pittsburgh as well, so it's possible that the "Red Dawn" achievement missions may refer to that, or else other missions before or after "Whiskey Hotel" (more likely after, I get the impression that the brunt of the invasion is in D.C., and prior to that you're part of TF 141 trying to figure out Makarov's plan). It's like IW spoiled too much of the plot with the achievement leak and then the trailer, but I can't complain. I just want to shoot some Ruskies in historic buildings. 164.107.91.229 17:41, October 5, 2009 (UTC)