Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2/Archive 8

Archive
Wow, 7 archives already. This is the biggest thing on the wiki by far. Did you know we had 155,000 uniqe visits last month and we are the 23rd most viewed wikia wiki? Imagine how much traffic we will get once the game ACTUALLY comes out-- 00:22, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * I remember when this wiki wasn't well known. My how times have changed. Darkman 4 01:10, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * When the game comes out, will all of the talk be deleted? All the speculation would be wasted. 03:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, discussions should NEVER be deleted per COD:DDD-- 03:56, September 7, 2009 (UTC)
 * When the game comes out, it'll be fun to look through the old archives and see how wrong we were. Darkman 4 04:56, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

That would be cool lol.

International Space Station level
I looked in the PSM3 MW2 review and it said that there was going to be a level in Space. Do you really think this is going to be a level? I don't know but it would be really cool in zero gravity. Maybe if you kill an enemy, blood will float through space. I'm thinking this is the prologue before the level "Cliffhanger". I do hope it is a level because Call of Duty: Modern Warfare didn't have a level in space. 08:09 September 7, 2009 DevilWarrior112

I think it just said there would be a level involving a space station or satellite, but you are on earth. And why the hell would you have expected a space level in CoD4? Sorry dude, but you sound really stupid. Imrlybord7 08:32, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Lol? a level in space? Well... I don't think so matey.

I'm thinking it's going to be somewhat like the coup, you'll probably be a worker on the ISS when shit hits the fan. I don't see how they could work your squad going into space into the story (unless it's another MHC-like mission that's unrelated to the main story). CAW4 13:05, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I think this level would explain the crashed satilite in " Cliffhanger".-GentlemanBilly

I agree, that satelite had to come into play somehow. And IW did say they wanted to integrate new gameplay elements like climbing, swimming, etc. Zero-G seems plausible here. OmgHAX! 16:44, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Gentleman Billy may have a point. But in space? That almost ruins the whole FPS concept of CoD and other FPS games.   Maj.Gage   Talk . 16:46, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

007 Nightfire on the PS2 did it and it was a decent FPS. But I doubt it'll be a playable level just because it'd be moving out of Modern Warfare and into Science fiction. WouldYouKindly 16:50, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I don't think there will be space combat. Even if IW will appease the fanboys with nonsensical things likely Duely deagles (shudders), space combat just goes beyond suspension of disbelief. OmgHAX! 20:13, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Hey, if you're going to be under water like they showed in the reveal trailer, then why not be in space? Something that extreme looking, space is just being underwater...without the water. I'm on CAW4 and GentlemanBilly's side, they make good points. 23:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

What would be great would be if they had a level similar to The Coup or Aftermath where you witness something fall out of space from an astronaut's perspective. Imrlybord7 23:44, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I think it would be cooler if it had the ultranationalists trying to take over the space station. You could be an astronaut trying to escape the enslaugth(I think that's how you write it).-GentlamanBilly-

I agree; a playable space level would be cool. But if Infinity Ward did that, it wouldn't be Call of Duty anymore. It would probably be more like...oh I don't know..more like Halo. Random Man 0213 01:19, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I see what you mean. Besides, where is the info stating that this is apart of the game?--GentlemanBilly--

Yeah, my guess is instead of a level, it will be like The Coup. You can control the player (astronaut) but nothing else. This might even explain how the crashed satalite came into play.   Maj.Gage   Talk . 10:34, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Exactly what I said. But how did the satalite crash in the first place? The Ultranationalists don't seem like they have many powerful weapons that could shoot a satalite from Earth. This makes me think that they will go into space to do it.--GentlemanBilly

Could be anything from another stolen ICBM to an ultranationalist spy pretending to work for the astronauts who sabotages the satellite to simply an accident (the satellite may have malfunctioned and fallen out of the sky or something). 2 months and we'll find out for sure WouldYouKindly 23:36, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

DLC for 360 no longer a timed exclusive?
http://twitter.com/FourZeroTwo --Cpt Jack House 19:01, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I just realized he could mean completely exclusive when he says exclusive, and is just saying this to calm PS3 owners down. --Cpt Jack House 19:01, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

It's still timed exclusive. He said so on the IW forums. Imrlybord7 19:08, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I believe the rumor was none dlc maps that are included only in the Xbox version of the game.-- 19:14, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

I assume you meant to type non instead of none. Funny how one letter can turn a normal post into utter nonsense. Imrlybord7 19:30, September 7, 2009 (UTC)

Watch?
If you look at the newest multiplayer vid @ 1:50, you'll see your player's watch. What could be on the watch (logo, emblem, etc.)?   Maj.Gage   Talk . 00:13, September 8, 2009 (UTC) Probably nothing but the time I guess.-GentlemanBilly-

Dual wielding
I like that you get to dual wield in Modern Warfare 2, but is it possible to dual wield MP5-K's? Also with Mini Uzi's?--GentlemanBilly--

Yeah, and they will have the akimbo perk. --JoeRamirez--

Side Arms only so... no MP5-ks or any type of sub machine gun, however there may be an Uzi Variant in the Side Arms section which will make it available for dual wielding. --Cpt Jack House 08:53, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

They said sidearms only, but they also said sidearms will include more than just pistols. No SMGs, though. OmgHAX! 16:58, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

You never know, they could include very compact SMGs... CAW4 17:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Not really sure those count. Some really small ones like the skorpion might count as automatic pistols. Glock 18 definitly suggests some automatic sidearms are available. OmgHAX! 18:36, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

FourZeroTwo stated that Side Arms are no longer tied to just pistols, and that machine pistols werent the onlything being added. --Cpt Jack House 20:15, September 8

Sweet, but still MP5-K's aren't dual wieldable? Plus can you pick up two different weapons like a Skopion and a Glock?-GentlemanBilly-


 * Never thought about that i really dont know --24.46.117.114 17:05, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Somehow I doubt the issue will be cleared up before launch. We'll probably only find out the entirety of what they mean by "sidearms" when it's released. Mechanical 42 18:53, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think that those Side arms will be a kinds of PDW's like Skorpion or maybe Micro Uzi w/short mag ( 15 or 10 shots in Mag.)--Bartekko 12:08, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

To much focus on xbox
Does anyone notice that the Xbox 360 is getting alot more attention then the PC and the PS3? 2:50, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

It's they're favorite platform. Haven't you ever seen that in their videos, and Treyarch's, they always test on the Xbox 360. --02:11, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

I was watching a video on YouTube about this very topic. A Infinity Ward developer said that they are getting to the point where they may stop making Call of Duty games for the PS3. I'd hate to see it happen, even though I don't own a PS3.--GentlemanBilly--

It is their prefered platform, and they dont hide that fact. Although ditching the PS3 will hurt the profits. But im sure they will do whatever they feel like if they want to favor the 360... of course i dont mind, i own the 360. --Cpt Jack House 08:50, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

The Xbox 360 is prefered by many gamers because of it's price, there are more sold because PS3s are more expensive. I prefer to use a PS3 because it almost has the same controller than the PS2, which is the only other game consle I own besides a Wii. =(    Maj.Gage   Talk . 10:31, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Ok what is going to happen to the PC? 22:37, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

The PC won't get any collector's editions and it will get the official DLC late, just like the PS3. But it will obviously have mod tools and a map maker, in addition to a much higher player count per match. Imrlybord7 23:22, September 8, 2009 (UTC)

Microsoft, bribing people ;)

I don't care when we get DLC on the PS3, as long as we get it.


 * Well then have no fear, its on the way --Cpt Jack House 22:35, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Controller/Accessory Gallery
IGN just posted a gallery of the controllers. Here's the link: http://media.gear.ign.com/articles/102/1023398/imgs_1.html

I was wondering, should we create a separate article that overviews the accessories or just wait until they come out to start writing stuff about them? Or just forget the article altogether? Chief z 13:38, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Leave it for now thanks.

Killstreaks
Why is the Airstrike killstreak listed on 7? To my knowledge, all we know is that the airstrike is still present, not that it requires 7 kills. If someone has accurate information pointing out otherwise, would you be so kind as to pass along this verification? Mechanical 42 14:39, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with you.

Agreed. I figured I just missed something, but then I remembered that I'm imrlybord7 of the CoD wiki. Imrlybord7 17:01, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

I originally put it down as ?- Airstrike, but someone added in the seven. Didn't notice until now. OmgHAX! 21:09, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Leaked stuff
WARNING ON THE LINK: MAJOR POTENTIAL SPOILER. Mechanical 42 05:37, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I was looking though some forums and some guy made a topic about leaked stuff from the artbook. Is it legit? link: http://forums.modernwarfare247.com/index.php?/topic/2118-leaked-art-edition-book/

It looks like there is a XM307 in the game. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v102/godbody/PIC_0048.jpg

Ferrariguy1000 04:06, September 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * The XM307 was fine, the link you provided for the source had it. No prob on that bit you had up image-wise. Mechanical 42 05:43, September 12, 2009 (UTC)


 * oh, ok. thanks Ferrariguy1000 05:47, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Darkman...about those spoilers... Mechanical 42 06:26, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Darkman 4 06:39, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Its the XM307 automatic grenade launcher or XM312 .50 BMG machinegun. I think its the latter because we'd have no chance against greandes. Still, isn't that a cancelled weapon project?


 * Canceled things still end up in games all the time. Look at the XM8 and XM29. Mechanical 42 21:11, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * You use an automatic grenade launcher in CoD4, so I don't see why you can't use the XM307 in MW2. Darkman 4 22:36, September 12, 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but the Mk. 19 was only in campaign and mounted. 18:54, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to add the US as a possible location. If you feel that I shouldn't, I'm all ears. Chief z 03:32, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I was right, Makarov was a ballsier villain than we thought. Anyways, wouldn't that be a potential spoiler? I know this whole site is spoilerish but I'm talking like the big secret climax moments and stuff. OmgHAX! 17:11, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Agree with OmgHAX! on the matter. Best keep it to a minimum spoiler-wise until the game's actually released. Mechanical 42 17:24, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Of course; I totally agree with the spoiler stuff. I'm certainly not going add anything plotwise until a week or two after the game has come out. But I feel that seeing the US as a possible, and I stress possible, location is not really spoilerish as it's not confirmed. To me, seeing space as a possible location seemed more spoilerish than the US. I was kind of expecting it though, when somebody pointed out the capitol building on the boxart.

By the way, does anyone know where we got Prypiat as a possible location? Chief z 11:09, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * To be honest, I was wondering that myself. There hasn't been anything about Prypiat, much less the Ukraine as an entirety to my knowledge at all relating to this game. Mechanical 42 11:42, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I checked the revision history and it was added by one of the newer users on Sept. 5 with no summary or citation. Unless some concrete info comes up I'm just going to remove it.


 * Man, two more months. At least ODST comes out in a couple weeks. Chief z 05:04, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Move the EBR
The Mark 14 EBR should be moved out of the sniper rifle category, as it isn't a sniper rifle (it can be made a DMR, but that's not the same thing). If it is included in the game it will probably be classified as an assault rifle (like its ancestor, the M14). The14th 16:01, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Request granted. Imrlybord7 17:06, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

If the Mark 14 EBR is classified as an assault rifle in game it will probably have a lot of attachments; thermal scope, reg. scope, red dot sight, heart beat sensor, etc. I'm trying to figure out how it will be classified due to the thermal and regular scope attachments.74.137.134.152 23:44, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

Oni, if that's you, just make a damn account already. And personally, I hope that there is actually a battle rifle category, but honestly, we can't say for sure how it is going to be classified. But if there is no BR category (there probably won't be), I would bet on it being an AR over a sniper. Imrlybord7 00:29, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I agree Imrlybord, there should be a battle rifle category, but as you said, IW probably won't do that. I could see it being used as both and AR and a sniper, since Soap was using it as a sniper in the Cliffhanger mission. 01:30, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe we could start making the weapon pages
We do know the magazine sizes and compatible attachments for a few guns, and it will save us some work in the future. I'm not necessarily pushing for it to happen, but I feel that it is something we should at least be considering. Imrlybord7 17:13, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I'd probably wait until October at least. Remember the game's still in beta, nothing's set in stone yet. WouldYouKindly 19:27, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think WYK is right. The time will come, Imrlybord.

Yeah, if we make the articles now a bunch of idiots will come and write stuff they think they know about the weapon. 19:59, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I agree, wait it out. Mechanical 42 21:29, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with everyone else. Darkman 4 02:28, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Artbook Leaked?
http://www.pcgames.de/aid,694927/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Fake-oder-echt-Bilder-vom-Artbook-aufgetaucht/PC/News/ --Cpt Jack House

Seen it before. Go up three sections. OmgHAX! 22:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

New Multyplayer News Tomorrow
Fourzerotwo's twitter says they are rehearsing for a big multiplayer reveal event tomorrow. Anybody want to throw in some wild speculation as to what will be revealed? The14th 17:15, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

The SA80 L85A2, or atleast i hope so   Critchell   Talk 17:16, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I'm guessing either a new perk or a new gun...hell even showing the Bling camo, maybe. There's a range of possibilities, maye even a new game mode. Cpl. Wilding 17:20, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

If their prior "Big Reveals" have been anything to show and it's for MP, they'll probably still play their hand carefully. I mean, the last video didn't really contain much too unexpected save throwing knives and the profile popups. Most of it was already either expected/already out there. But here's hoping for some more usable info. Mechanical 42 17:28, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I dunno about you all, but I want to see some more killstreak rewards in action WouldYouKindly 17:29, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I really hope it is a new perk/gun. I need to see the M60 in multiplayer. COME ON!!

How about Rainbow Six Vegas 2 style character customization, or is that pushing it?   Critchell   Talk 17:36, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I think i remember them saying something a while back about being able to customize your multiplayer character (about time too, I always hated the COD4 OpFor sniper's big, red "Shoot Me Here!" hat) WouldYouKindly 17:38, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Now that i read the first sentence of this section, i wonder, does it mean they are rehearsing now for the reveal tomorrow, or is it that the rehearsing takes place tomorrow?   Critchell   Sniper 17:40, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * It reads, "Landed in Los Angeles. 48 hrs w/ no sleep & no time to rest now. Our big multiplayer reveal event is tommorrow. Rehersals today. Can't wait!" Recury 17:59, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

sounds awesome   Critchell   Sniper 18:01, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

The L85 has already been confirmed via incorrect pick-up icon and OXM text. And based on the last video I think customizable appearances are a definite. I can't wait! I really wasn't expecting anything new for a few weeks! Imrlybord7 19:25, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

i know the l85 has been confirmed but i want to see it in action   Critchell   Sniper  19:27, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I'm hoping for more weapons and attachments other than assault rifles. I need to see more variety! OmgHAX! 19:47, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

I've seen enough weapons. Bring on the perks (and hopefully customizable appearances)! Imrlybord7 00:21, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah ! Let's hope I.W. will shocase some awesome weapon like the Kriss or the L85A2.--GentlemanBilly--

When I first saw the SA80 icon, I thought it was a deleted weapon that was replaced by the AUG, but they didn't get around to replacing the SA80's icon when E3 came. Glad to see I was wrong. Darkman 4 06:30, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

So... has anyone heard anything yet? I checked youtube and nothing's been posted yet. WouldYouKindly 19:48, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Nothing. Maybe we have to wait for noon Pacific time again. OmgHAX! 19:51, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I was wondering since we have the AUG scope, and with the L85A2 confirmed, should we add the SUSAT scope to the attachments list as probable? User:jewfrohero 21:43, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

The AUG scope was only added because it was actually seen. We haven't seen the SUSAT, and the ACOG is replacing the SUSAT anyway. Imrlybord7 23:47, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

UPDATE: "Just approved new MP screenshots and ranked up my #MW2 profile so we can show off all the newness tonight"

So, whatever this "newness" is, it wont be long now apparently. WouldYouKindly 00:04, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * haha I hope he didn't actually have to level up his profile to get shots of whatever content they want to show. You'd think such a high-quality dev team would have a tool that lets them automatically reach certain ranks for testing purposes. Darkman 4 00:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

A heads up
When MW2 is released, I'm planning on semi-protecting (ony registered users can edit) all of the MW2-related pages, such as weapons and characters. I don't want our chance to shine via fresh MW2 info being ruined by IP vandals. Are you guys okay with that? Darkman 4 06:29, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I have the distinct idea we're going to find our M16/MP40 pretty fast and all kinds of rampant speculation to mess with folk may crop up. But your call, I suppose. Mechanical 42 06:56, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't stop users from making false pages, but I can prevent them from adding false info to existing pages via the protecting system.


 * I plan on getting the PC version of MW2. I (or another user that has the PC version) can take a look at the weapon files and see what weapons are in the game so that we can nip fake weapons in the bud before rumors about them spread. Darkman 4 07:43, September 15, 2009 (UTC)


 * I Agree that all MW2 pages should be protected when the game is released. I have a feeling we might get a flood of vandalism. In any case it is a good precaution.

--PhantBat 10:30, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Den Kirson already confirmed that he will be charting MW2, for anyone who is curious. Also, I definitely agree with semi-protecting every single MW2 related page. If someone really has something to add, they can make an account. Imrlybord7 11:54, September 15, 2009 (UTC)
 * Sweet! That's gonna make the weapon pages really easy! Darkman 4 16:09, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

yes. Imrlybord, as I remember, you added the info from the denkirson.xanga.com. That was a lot of solid info. So, as Darkman said, we got it easy again.

I definitley agree. This is a necessity, I get so tired of idiots thinking they know things about the guns. 20:41, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Possible New Multplayer Vid Soon
http://twitter.com/FourZeroTwo Rehearsals???   Maj.Gage   Talk . 20:42, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Two sections up, man. WouldYouKindly 20:44, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

I think I should wear a bicycle helmet everywhere I go and shout "DEH!" in random outbursts.   Maj.Gage   Talk . 20:51, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Lol, honest mistake, no problem. WouldYouKindly 20:56, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

So its tonight then. Finally! OmgHAX! 23:44, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

suspected SCAR-L? (read before commenting "it's a ACR")
There was a picture of the menu of the MW2 beta at LA, and I saw what looked like a SCAR-L. It doesn't look like a ACR because the Stock is very slightly different. here's the pic of the menu:

http://i25.tinypic.com/2a848xj.png

ACR:

http://magpul.com/detroit1.jpg

SCAR:

http://www.armyrecognition.com/images/stories/europe/belgium/weapons/scar-l/pictures/SCAR-L_assaut_rifle_FN_Herstal_Belgium_001.jpg

The stock is slightly different and the one on the menue looks like the SCAR's. (oops, forgot to sign) Ferrariguy1000 02:25, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Interesting observation! Darkman 4 02:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a SCAR-L to me, but that wouldn't count as confirmation since its just background art. OmgHAX! 02:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'd say it counts as confirmation if we can totally prove that it is a SCAR-L. I think it is a SCAR-L, but we need a general consensus. Imrlybord7 02:32, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Oni, the second biggest weapon list contributor (I put it together with him on Gamefaqs), agrees that it's a SCAR-L. Imrlybord7 02:37, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I'm more interested in the sniper. Looks like an arctic warfare to me by the magwell. Besides we already got the M4 and ACR, why would they add another 5.56 carbine? OmgHAX! 04:08, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

AR-15(s?)
Just a quick thought here; there's the bushmaster M4 that we've seen in promotional images of soap and two special forces guys, and what looks like an M4 with an SIR. Is it possible that they're seperate weapons? Because the latter might even be a REC7 because they have identical barrels and similar stocks. I guess we won't know until we see more gameplay footage. Thoughts? OmgHAX! 02:22, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The REC7 has definitely NOT been shown. Imrlybord7 02:32, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Here's the M4 I'm talking about though. It's definitly different. The barrel's flush with the body, showing its an SIR. I'm not saying its confirmed, I'm just aying there's something different. OmgHAX! 02:50, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

If they were different guns it would be incredibly stupid. I think the artists were just taking some creative freedom. We definitely aren't listing them as separate unless we get 100% confirmation, which I am quite certain will never happen. Imrlybord7 06:30, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Updates! This may be useful.
UPDATES FROM VIDEOGAMER.COM HAVE ENDED AS OF 8:57pm GMT, THIS DOESN'T MEAN THERE ARE NO MORE UPDATES. http://www.videogamer.com/features/live_report/15-09-2009-786.html Updates talk about stuff:

I will be updating

Confirmed:

Shotguns have silencers.

Commando: increased melee range

Can't shoot while using riot shield

5 kills gives you a remote contol missile, controlled via a laptop.

New feature.... Deathstreaks. Once you die a few times, a perk kicks in. "Copycat", for example, lets you steal an opponent's class setup once they've killed you four times.

Looks like you can have a AT4 for a secondary weapon. http://img19.yfrog.com/img19/6906/5wrf.jpg

Customizable killstreak stuff: http://img10.yfrog.com/img10/2817/mjdr.jpg

a Map is an urban construction site.

Sleigh of hand is perk tier 1: http://img19.yfrog.com/img19/6906/5wrf.jpg

More map details: a rooftop arena, with massive construction cranes overhead. Half-built walls. Polythene sheets flapping in the wind. The guy i'm watching is pretty good - just planted his second bomb, which looks like a suitcase full of dynamite sticks. Pretty evil looking.

New perk: Lightweight


 * What's it do? What slot?

more Map details: This one is in a desert environment, with the wreck of a massive plane.

New map: Favela. Shanty town, narrow alleyways. Colourful propaganda on walls. Washing on a line. Abandoned football goals.

SAW confirmed: "The FAMAS appears to be a popular weapon. One bloke is also using a SAW. Will see what else I can spot."

When you use the riot shield, it obscures the bottom quarter of the screen and you move more slowly.

One guy us dual wielding SMGs.... Can't tell what kind, because i'm not a gun nut.

Bling: gives you two primary weapon attachments.

PP2000 confirmed! http://web3.twitpic.com/img/30057003-ea1057c74943e79ef7c27d90e39d3908.4ab0551a-scaled.jpg


 * Link doesn't show anything. Imrlybord7 03:03, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * NVM just started working. It's a secondary weapon. Imrlybord7 03:04, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I forgot the name, but it's the handheld grenade launcher! http://web9.twitpic.com/img/30056811-b345d00c6e3837b30b3cf78abbf7402e.4ab05458-thumb.jpg


 * M79 aka thumper. Imrlybord7 02:58, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Grenade stuff: http://web8.twitpic.com/img/30056665-2c642f680f556a5c86c0a789089fa729.4ab052f0-scaled.jpg

Choose where you spawn: http://www.fpsadmin.com/gallery/main.php/d/5560-2/IMG_0185.JPG

I have no idea what this is, but it looks important: http://web10.twitpic.com/img/30057971-1e82c12b96cb3b2d47823f54b9704b03.4ab0542d-full.jpg

A bit odd, but it says shotguns are secondary: http://web3.twitpic.com/img/30057003-a2b344a30cbafb63637963aff77e5f73.4ab0565d-scaled.jpg

Colt .44 confirmed: "I've not seen any sniper weapons yet. Looks like the favela and the desert plane crash maps may be the only two on display. Weapons I have seen include: SPAS-12 shotgun, Colt 44 Magnum, FAMAS and UMP 45. I'm pretty sure you the UMP was the gun I saw being dual-wielded earlier."

New perk: Pain killer (confirmed by ING)

Silenced Sniper Rifles confirmed: (sorry, no reff. Heard it on the forum, but I trust these guys. alternate refference: http://forums.infinityward.com/viewtopic.php?p=1906914#p1906914)

New perk: Hardline: killstreaks take 1 kill less to get!( http://forums.infinityward.com/viewtopic.php?p=1907368#p1907368)

IF PICTURES AREN'T SHOWING, GO HERE: http://www.twitpic.com/photos/pstjoker

(ahrg, forgot to sign, I'm typing like 5000 words a miniute. please forgive me) Ferrariguy1000 02:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * You can have a blast shield in place of the frag grenade. :o Darkman 4 02:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * haha the ammo drop is called "Care package". Also, one of the streaks is a Sentry Gun. Darkman 4 02:34, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Another new perk is called "Marathon". Darkman 4 02:38, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure marathon was in CoD4: MW.
 * Marathon is a challenge in CoD4, not a perk. Darkman 4 02:41, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops, sorry. :) Ferrariguy1000 02:48, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * It appears you can have multiples of secondary grenades without a perk. See http://img19.yfrog.com/img19/6906/5wrf.jpg Darkman 4 02:40, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Holy shit this game gets better with every bit of info revealed. I would never expect to see an M79 GL in a CoD game. Darkman 4 02:55, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

http://twitter.com/geoffkeighley Imrlybord7 02:41, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

http://twitpic.com/hw7vd Imrlybord7 02:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

We will need to do major reconstruction of the page including the layout of the custom class screen, what stuff takes up what slot, and new gametypes (domination and groundwar confirmed). Imrlybord7 02:54, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Right now what matters is that wee get the info on the page. Darkman 4 02:55, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Updates galore, finally. It's almost too much info at one go, almost. I've updated the Killstreak section of the page and given each a summary of what they should do, while we only know the official line for Care Package, the other summaries I guessed shouldn't be too far off the mark, and are suitably vague enough to allow for more specific updates. -- Commdor (Talk) 02:57, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I hope I'm not killing you guys with up to second updates.Ferrariguy1000 02:59, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Naw man, your updates are really useful! Darkman 4 03:00, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Scavenger perk-lets you resupply stuff from dead enemies (not a great description, all we know so far). Imrlybord7 03:02, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Maybe it gives scavenged weapons more ammo when you pick them up or something? I dunno WouldYouKindly 03:16, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

IGN's Liveblog on the event, basically recaps everything so far. The site appears to be buggy, as this blog wasn't working until just a few minutes ago. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:04, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, i cant get VideoGamer to load for me, so I suppose that and twitter'll have to do for me WouldYouKindly 03:10, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

New vid from Geoff Keighley. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7Z10-X6nU4 Imrlybord7 03:10, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Sweet, thanks Imrlybord WouldYouKindly 03:13, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Too bad it's so small. :/ Darkman 4 03:15, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

One thing I noticed, there appear to be new "Death Streaks", as in rewards you get for dying a certain amount of times without scoring a kill. One of them, "Copycat", lets you steal the class of your killer after dying four times without a kill. See http://img19.yfrog.com/img19/6906/5wrf.jpg -- Commdor (Talk) 03:11, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Already mentioned and already posted onto the MW2 page. Thanks though WouldYouKindly 03:13, September 16, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I just noticed. Things are moving fast. -- Commdor (Talk) 03:14, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

"Care package" sounds real interesting. Basically a gamble, you could get something really good like the AC-130 six kills early, or just get another UAV WouldYouKindly 03:13, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Colt 44 Magnum shown in multiplayer at preview events, please update pistol list.

IMPORTANT! Secondary weapons now contain pistols, machine pistols, shotties, and launchers. I'm done posting for today, my brain will explode. Imrlybord7 03:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Equipment: Frag, Semtex, Throwing Knife, Tactical Insertion (you choose where to respawn), Blast Shield, and two others. The images here are pretty good: http://twitter.com/pstjoker -- Commdor (Talk) 03:30, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * :( You have to forego frags to choose that tactical insertion perk? aww. Guess it makes sense though... wouldn't want someone spawning right beside a group of enemies and just nadespamming away... WouldYouKindly 03:49, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Akimbo is an attachment, not a perk. http://www.gamesradar.com/xbox360/modern-warfare-2/preview/modern-warfare-2-multiplayer-hands-on/a-2009091515053403065/g-20090326142018906090/p-2 Darkman 4 04:04, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Seems weird that all the shotguns are sidearms now. Maybe its just the double barrel under sidearms? Because the AA12 is pretty damn close to an assault rifle itself. PLEASE CLARIFY, IW! OmgHAX! 04:39, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/capture-the-modern-warfare/56043?type=wmv This vid confirms the slots of a bunch of perks. Imrlybord7 05:08, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hah, all of the people in that match are named after CoD characters; there's even a few names that are from the WWII CoD games! Darkman 4 05:21, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Kill icons for teh L85 and .44 Magnum appear in this video, in case anyone is interested. Darkman 4 05:29, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Four new gameplay vids
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/modern-warfare-2/11043 These confirm a bunch of perk slots and also might unconfirm the L85A2 because it confirms the L86 LSW, which has the same pick-up/kill log icon as what we thought was the L85A2. Imrlybord7 06:06, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

They just added a 5th and will probably add even more. Imrlybord7 06:08, September 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * Looks like the SPAS-12 is a pump-action shotgun. Maybe you'll have the ability to unlock it's semi-auto mode as a different weapon, attachment or perk? Darkman 4 06:23, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

They posted like 4 more videos, but I can't watch them until I get out of school, so if someone else could get on that... Imrlybord7 11:58, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Interesting, they're actually including LSWs. So maybe the AUG HBAR is an LMG after all? OmgHAX! 13:13, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

The thing is, we have seen the AUG "HBAR," and it is clearly the standard assault rifle version, unless we have ONLY seen people carrying the standard AUG and ONLY seen pick up icons for the HBAR, which is incredibly unlikely. Imrlybord7 13:49, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah see your point. Just noticed the L86 uses a drum magazine. OmgHAX! 13:52, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

That OXM picture thing said l85 which could of been a typo but it did say assault rifle afterwards and i doubt they would mix up assault rifles and support weapons   Critchell   Sniper  15:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Re-removal of M249 SAW (sorry)
The source was the same guy who thought that he saw the UMP being dual wielded, and he also said that he is "not a gun nut." I'd say that makes him unreliable, so that SAW was probably an M240. I'm removing it for now, and I think everyone will agree with me, but if not, make yourself heard right here. Imrlybord7 06:26, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

IGN multiplayer hands-on
IGN posted their take on multiplayer, and it sounds amazing. Here's the link: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/102/1025233p1.html I'll try to post stuff not already listed.


 * Multiplayer mode: Demolition. Same as Search and Destroy, but now with respawns and all attackers get bombs.
 * Attachments don't replace perks, except Bling.
 * You control the flight path of the Predator missile via camera ( a la Battlefield 2)
 * Killstreak: Anti-UAV (self-explanatory).
 * Tactical Insurgence (probably a typo) explanation: You plant a flare stick where you want to respawn next.
 * You open up killstreak customization as you level up (i.e. Private (Lvl. 1) can only customize killstreak 3 and 4).
 * Airdrop explanation: You pop smoke and a chopper delivers the goods (a la Mercenaries).
 * Multiplayer levels: Highrise, Afghan.
 * Attachment: Foregrip (Grips was the exact word in the article)
 * Pro Perks: Upgrade your perks through multiple use(ex. Kill 1000 players with Stopping Power and unlock Stopping Power Pro).
 * Challenges are more steamlined (Press X over a perk, attachment, etc. and the killcount or whatever for the next level is displayed).
 * Perks: Stopping Power, Steady Aim, Infinite Sprint (not sure about the name), Sprint Boost (Not sure of the name, it's the feathered boots in the original teaser trailer), and health boost (not real name again).
 * New challenges: long range kills (double, triple kills, headshots, etc.)

Chief z 11:13, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Marathon and Lightweight
I'd say it's safe to assume that Marathon is the "sprint boost (faster sprinting)" and Lightweight is Infinite Sprint. Obviously sprint boost means faster sprinting, otherwise there would be no reason to use both Marathon and Lightweight. Imrlybord7 16:44, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

i would of said it's the other way around, Marathon is the infinite sprint and lightweight is the boost.   Critchell   Sniper  16:53, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Perk 2 > Perk 1, Infinite sprint > Sprint boost. But based on the names your idea makes more sense. Imrlybord7 16:57, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

New Challenges
According to This Video, Some of the so called "new challenges" appear to be part of a halo-style "medals" system called "accolades". We may need to make a seperate section under challenges (ps: 3 more accolades are confirmed by that video: None spared: Killed every member of the enemy team, Grudge Match: Killed the same player several times, and Switchblade: Killed multiple enemies with the knife WouldYouKindly 17:11, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Double and triple kill are included aswell.   Critchell   Sniper  17:24, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Sniper
has anyone figured out what sniper this is? OmgHAX! 17:39, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Tough to tell since you can only really see the parts of the rifle that are actually on-screen and not obscured by the guy's arms WouldYouKindly 17:48, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Its not any of the snipers we've seen already. If I had to guess, its an L96. I really want it to be in because there's no bolt actions on the list yet. The general shape and magazine seem to match up. OmgHAX! 17:58, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

Full set of gametrailers vids on youtube
I'm not going to bother linking them all here because that'll take forever, but this guy's channel has all 9 of the gametrailers vids on youtube if anyone wants to embed them onto the page WouldYouKindly 17:43, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

New perk
Got this while checking out the new gameplay videos:

http://h.imagehost.org/0846/MW2Screenshot.jpg

New perk called Scrambler by the looks of it. Sorry if somebody already got this btw. Cpl. Wilding 18:41, September 16, 2009 (UTC)

I haven't heard about it. Thanks. Imrlybord7 19:25, September 16, 2009 (UTC)