Talk:Call of Duty: Black Ops

ICBM Launch???
In the Black Ops trailer, isn't the missile launch an ICBM (Intercontinental Ballistic Missile) Launch? I might be wrong but is it really a ICBM Launch?

Zombies finally confirmed!
Yesterday, treyarchs comunity manager Josh Olin confirmed the ongoing rumor of about the hardened and prestige editions of Black ops... the 4 co-op maps included in those editions, are going to be the old world at war zombie maps, (Nacht der Untoten, Verrückt, Shi No Numa, Der Riese) updated and upgraded to the new engine. also by saying this, it's pretty much obvious, that the co-op mode is some kind of "Zombie Mode" (link to the article posted by Josh Olin): --WikiaWriter 10:10, August 14, 2010 (GMT)

Adding editions and minor note
As the page appears to be locked again, could someone please add the info on the retail editions (e.g. hardened and prestige, with their contents), similar to what as done on the Modern Warfare 2 page?

Also, it could be worthwhile to note a new feature in Black Ops - adjustable zoom for sniper scopes. It was seen in one of the demos back at E3 (on the Crossbow), and is featured again in the Prestige edition trailer. --Sentinel 101 17:21, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Prestige edition
The prestige edition comes with a RC Bomb, how awesome is that?

I also got these from the video - the Dragunov uses its proper scope reticule (THANK GOD) and a silenced AK-47.

19:11, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Good find! And that looks more like a AK-74, but time will tell. And about the SVD. JiZz. And the RC car bomb looks sick! What do you think the weapon is in the sniper victims hands? Maj. Boner 19:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Also heres the link to anyone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4RPK45emPU&playnext=1&videos=EfnGr-fgGHQ -Maj. Boner

@Maj.Boner: In the sniper victim's hand was AUG. It's seen second later when is falling behind him:D

I found this in the end of the trailer, looks like a skull of something, maybe the 10th PRESTIGE symbol?:

HYBRID XERO 22:16, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Very unlikely, Komrad, As days I have searched these Trailers, and I have found out, Most of the enemies, they wear Berets, No longer, Komrad, For three days alone, I have watched this Multiplayer trailer over and over, three days, luck alone has saved me from these retched adds on it and got me info, We Will Find Out On Sept. 1 or Nov. 9- German, not Russian, German writer and Cod 4 Sniper, and Specialist Grundy. 22:23, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

That is the MACVSOG emblem.Sgt Sprinkles 22:50, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks to me like one of those symbols from MoH's singleplayer trailer........ HeatedPeteTalk 20:10, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Sgt Sprinkles is right, it's the MACV SOG emblem. SSDGFCTCT9  天皇陛下萬歳！ 14:13, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

E-Tool?


That sniper appears to have an E-Tool on his back. Do you think it will be usable, or just part of the skin? 19:55, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well It wasn't uncommon for some soldiers to whip out their E-tools in CQB 19:57, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Looks useable. 19:58, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's probably just a decoration. 20:10, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

thats a normal plain shovel! Alex dlc 21:01, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Well you do fight as a specail ops soldier in Nam... Maj. Boner 21:03, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

What, I've said this like, 2 or so times, and you guys NOW notice it? (Some people need to pay attentionn!) - Specialist Grundy. 22:25, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

I just noticed that in WAW some models have E-Tools on their back. Maj. Boner 20:08, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

In Modern Warfare 2 the Russian Player models have backpack. Are they usable? No.  Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes"

Weapon Lowering
Watch the trailer closely and at the part where he kills the guys at the camera, then goes to retrive it, watch the top left and notice how hes not aiming and that his weapon is lowered. I also have more proof becuase in an interview the military advisor said hes always been bugged by how soldiers are always pointing thier guns all the time. I think this could be great for machinima making! Maj. Boner 21:40, August 12, 2010 (UTC)

Zombies Confirmed!?!?
See here: http://www.codblackopsnews.com/2010/08/12/gamestop-employee-accidentally-confirms-zombies-for-black-ops/

I was one of the forum members who called and i can confirm this. What does everyone think?? Mike1094 22:04, August 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I'm not believing it, not until Treyarch says it themselfs. Dolten 1164610-433px usmc logo svg large.png  Let's Talk  22:05, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Does make sense and everyone can experiance some nostalgia.Sgt Sprinkles 22:54, August 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * Will be very good if it's real, makes everyone anticipate the game even more. Emilios1310 12:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Clan tags/ customizable guns
The CAR at the beginning of the multiplayer trailer appears to have the users clan tag carved on the charging handle, sorry if this was already mentioned.Sidewinder82 00:16, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The Famas also have "customized look" - a bulldog image on the left side and some carvings all over his left side. 178.36.8.180 06:24, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

It probably has something to do with the "Sally" carved into the m1911 at the end of most Block ops commercials.Sidewinder82 14:53, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

We don't know much about 2.0 Classes. I hope that it has more appearance than that! But, that stuff is probably in the 2.0 Create a Class. Agreon 15:29, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Candies!!!!xD






New launcher(probably surface-to-air launcher from SA family.). Anybody knows the name of the missile? (with missile's name we'd be able to recognize the gun:D)

Browning M1919(a4?) confirmation!!!! It has custom stock.

M1 Garand(?) or Maybe some kind of shotgun? No idea:(

PS: Sry for bad editing:D

Morihaus 06:33, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * TBH the last two images are really stretching it. Darkman 4 06:34, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Yes:/ I didn't have enough time for it:(

But Browning should be confirmed:D Morihaus 07:04, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * No. That one is really, really stretching it. It looks morel like an M16. Darkman 4 07:18, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

The first pic is probably the Archangel. The second looks like an M16. I'm at a loss for the third pic though. Chief z 08:11, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: Maybe an SKS? Chief z 08:21, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Mysterious explosion


In the first scene of the trailer you can notice glass shatter and an explosion go off on the left hand side before the man in front of the Camera Spike is killed. In super slow motion you can see a red light on the wall upon the killer's entrance and shortly before he executes his victim, you can notice an explosion in the exact area of the red light. This may simply be a C4 pack....or not.

IMO it's made-up specially for the teaser. They placed c4 there and to add some "war atmosphere" they(or later killed enemy player)planted C4 and later detonated it just before the moment of his death(because "on the screen there always should be some explosion present" filmakers'doctrine)xD Morihaus 12:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

It was First Blood, who could have planted it there on one team, while someone on the other team placed a Camera Spike. But yes, it could have been there for cinematics only.

Martyrdom?
In the Prestige Edition Trailer, after the soldier gets sniped a grenade can be seen flying through the air. Could this be Martyrdom making a return? There was no evidence of anyone throwing a grenade, and it did appear from nowhere after the soldier was sniped.



If you look down you will see second "object" and "unknown bloody splinter".

1st.Theory: He was cooking grenade at the moment of his death. 2nd.Theory: It(along with other "objects") is ppiece of his head brutally ripped by Dragunov's shot:D

Theory: Martyrdom.... No solid proof(it should not "launch into the air" but "be with the body") Morihaus 12:07, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Cooked grenades don't "fly" either, they fall like a Martyrdom Grenade. But yes, it is JUST a theory.

thats not a grenade! look at the same picture, under his left arm, theres another 'ball' or whatever it is. i think its just part of the gore effect. theres no way thats a frag. Alex dlc 12:25, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

BlingPro.png?!?
At the start of the trailer there is a Commando with silencer and red dot sight. could that mean bling is returning?

Uhm, most likely TheManOfIron  12:21, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

No, I think that weapons can be customised however you want them.  Helljumper U T C


 * It's safe to say your statement was unwarranted. That's why you were warned by Bovell. 13:29, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Hahahaha, I had to read that one like three times to get it... dyslexia, my one weakness. :3 Ouroboros Omega 12:55, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Smiley
Has anyone noticed thet in the beginning of the multiplayer trailer the Commando( with smiley dot sight) has a big smiley on the side of it. You can see this when the person reloads.Hunter Steven 14:06, August 13, 2010 (UTC)


 * We've already caught that, thanks though. 20:54, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

M60
Why is this still absent from the list? YuriKaslov 21:11, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Its still in Other Qw3rty!  21:12, August 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I didn't see that there. YuriKaslov 21:17, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

guided rocket
In the multiplayer trailer when the RC bomb is driving there is a rocket above ot which does a turn. Possible guidded rocket system?Hunter Steven 09:03, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Srsly? go and read up on the Ark Angel kill-streak, its been mentioned several times on this page and in the article itself... -_-" Ouroboros Omega 12:52, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, no need to act like that. 12:58, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, just cant stand people who assume things without checking to see if it is mentioned anywhere else. My bad. Ouroboros Omega 13:06, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

The Guided Missile is a BGM-71 TOW

Moviemaster1993 08:22, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

if anyone would like to know XD

Hardened Edition.
Hey, does anyone have a date for when the hardened edition will become available for pre-order in England? I want the 4 original zombie maps but I dont want to shell out £129 (or whatever) and get an rc car Im never going to use and a medal Im never going to wear. Ouroboros Omega 12:50, August 14, 2010 (UTC)


 * The medal also comes with the Hardened edition :P but anyway, no dates regarding that have been released yet. Maybe checking out GAME's or HMV's websites or asking in-store might help... 12:58, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I went into GAME Watford last week, but they only had a normal pre-order box. But i wasn't looking at that for long, got sidetracked by MoH. Desert_rat.jpg HeatedPeteTalk 20:07, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Good idea, pity I live in the middle of nowhere... hmmm, should be able to find some use for the medal. Thank for the help anyway, lemme know if you find out before I do. Ouroboros Omega 13:02, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

meat shield mechanic
According to the link below, a new seemingly minor but intresting mechanic is appearing in victor Charlie, in the form of the use of a human shield. http://www.totalvideogames.com/Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops/news/Treyarch-Confirms-60FPS-For-Call-of-Duty-Black-Ops--New-Details-15246.html


 * Good find, but I would wait and see actual confirmation from Mark Lamia in a video or something. . 18:28, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Rated M or T
Its will be out in a few months and its hasnt been rated yet(from what i read) does anyone know what it is rated.Sgt Sprinkles 20:51, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

It'll be M for sure. Conqueror of all Zombies 21:06, August 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * Uh whats M. Is that 18 or 15?  Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes"

Probably a 15, due to the fact it will have blood and gore like Call of Duty: World at War. It may be a 18 if it has something "controversial" in it like NoRussian. Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes"

We dont know about gore yet.Sgt Sprinkles 21:59, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

Not true, Sgt. Sprinkles, there is a screencap from the trailer of a guy missing both legs from an explosion. Pimpchanzee 09:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

From what we saw in the multiplayer trailer there was no gore.Sgt Sprinkles 14:01, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

It could have been censored. COD WaW gave us that option. I think it'll be rated MA. General Geers 07:17, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

AK-74u
Is it safe to assume this weapon will be incorrectly categorized as an SMG? Y462 (T • C • E ) 05:31, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * Who knows right now? We've put in in the SMG category because that's where it was in CoD4. Darkman 4 05:34, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

AK-74u = incorrect name
The actual name for the weapon is the AKS-74U. The S in AKS was mistakenly left out in CoD4, as there is no such thing as an AK-74u. Pimpchanzee 09:55, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * If they call it the AK-74u in the game, then that's what we call it here. 11:58, August 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * There is such thing as an ak-74u but an aks-74u is in the game .Sgt Sprinkles 14:07, August 15, 2010 (UTC)Ak.jpg
 * We don't care what its called in real life; its a compact AK-74, so it goes on the AK-74U page. Darkman 4 16:09, August 15, 2010 (UTC)

Unmanned aerial vehicle ball
Could someone please rename the 'UAV ball' to something more fitting, radar ball or something. - RASICTalk 03:48, August 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * We go by what the game calls things and I'm sure that it won't be called "Radar ball". In the previous installments, the radar has been labelled as "UAV", so that's what we're keeping it as. 14:05, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * In previous installments the radar has been an unmanned aerial vehicle, also the page says "There appeas to be" so the ball itself has not been named yet, perhaps Rader ball was a bad idea, but what about Motion Sensors? - RASICTalk 19:57, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * HA! Vehicles, destructable environments, now motion sensors!. What next.....bullet drop????? Quad Bikes????? Desert_rat.jpg HeatedPeteTalk 20:03, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Actually I think bullet drop might be in... The Prestige edition trailer shows a guy aiming just in front of an enemy. OMG HOW WILL TEH MLG PRO QUICK SCOPERZ OWNZ NOW?! Legendary.png Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes"


 * If they put bullet drop in for sniper rifles I would build an altar dedicated to Treyarch. 20:49, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * Wow, COD4. Anyway, the dude aimed in front of the enemy so by the time the bullet reached where he aimed, the enemy would be there. If he aimed ABOVE the dude, then that is bullet drop. I wonder if they will add in wind, like the barret in 1s1k on COD4. Bumblebeeprime09's Quarters|Radio|Records 22:05, August 16, 2010 (UTC)
 * OMG HeatedPete your making it sound like Battlefield:Bad Company 2, although that game is so hectic to
 * Well, after I heard that Treyarch are introducing DEs and new vehicles, I thought that maybe Treyarch had slimed Frostbite 1.0 from a copy of Bad Company, and then worked it around the WAW engine. But right now im not that bothered. BO's 5th on my "games to get" list (MoH, AC:B, BF3 and F1 2010 all coming before it) Desert_rat.jpg HeatedPeteTalk 12:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Frostbite is developed by a group that works for EA. Why would they give their engine to a company that works for Activision, their biggest rival? Darkman 4 21:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, my original thought was that they took the frostbite engine, and then worked that around the existing WaW engine, while also improving that to be up to the spec of F'bite1.5 and other game engines. Now, however, i look upon the destructible environments and vehicles with tears of laughter, as as always CoD stick to the analogue stick controls for vehicles instead of button controls, and so flying/driving are limited in maneuverability, creativeness and other key areas that button controls excel. Desert_rat.jpg HeatedPeteTalk 21:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Just because Frostite can do destructive environments doesn't mean that it's the only engine that has it or can have it. Cryengine 2 had destructible environments two years before BC2 did. Darkman 4 21:31, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya see, my suspicions were aroused when Treyarch announce DEs and new ways of using vehicles in multiplayer after BC2 trumps MW2 even in the eyes of many hardcore Modern Warfare supporters (in game terms, sales are just for right-wingers). We all thought at my school "Treyarch are just trying to find ways of catching up to the better games, and that means destruction and real vehicular warfare instead of what was just tanks beat all in WaW" Desert_rat.jpg HeatedPeteTalk 21:39, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't be surprised if some of BO's features were taken from BC2 because of how popular BC2 was. Darkman 4 21:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see where you're coming from. I wouldn't be surprised if some of BO's features were taken from BC2 because of how popular BC2 was. Darkman 4 21:42, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

"Dolphin Dive"
I was watching the multiplayer Demo and i say a guy jump and go prone and he sorta went into the shape of a dolphin diving hence the name.It was on a snow map outside a building i cant remember excatly when in the video just keep,your eyes on the middle right of the screen.

Arch Angel
Could someone edit this in the killstreak section, its Arch Angel, not "ark angel". DarkFlame588 20:36, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

I could've sworn it is Ark Angel. Wtf is an Arch Angel?  Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes" Because that's how it's spelled that's why. Archangel is correct.

Further proof:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arch-angel --LOST-The Cartographer 21:42, August 16, 2010 (UTC)


 * Unless we get proof from Treyarch or an in-game screenshot stating Arch over Ark, then it stays as Ark Angel. Cpl. Wilding 21:44, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Link has been fixed. Thanks DarkFlame. Darkman 4 21:50, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

miniguns on a huey
In some of the Black ops trailers, a huey is seen gunning down some NVA or VC guys in an office building with gatling guns of some kind. Shouldn't that be in the weapons section? YuriKaslov 23:55, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

This has been discussed, check archives 10 or 11. General Geers 07:21, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Eh, I don't mind the Minigun being on the page. I'll add it. Darkman 4 21:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Anti-Zombie Weapons
Could the return of the old zombie maps mean the return of the Ray Gun and the Wunderwaffe DG-2? Also, do you think killstreaks (possibly limited) could be introduced to Nazi Zombies? And won't "Nazi Zombies" probably be renamed to something else? It is a different time era. General Geers 07:29, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Killstreaks are a good idea Moviemaster1993. Also it will probaly be called "Zombies" lol everyone calls it that i have noticed 8~) 08:40, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

==== I don't mean to be a taddle tale but there are some guys bad mothing this page on IMFDB's black ops discussion page

just thought you should know


 * IMFDB? Legendary.png Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes"
 * Ignore me I found out what it is. Does it really matter if they're "bad mouthing" it? They're entitled to their own opinions. Legendary.png Helljumper "Folks Need Heroes" 
 * Doesn't it seem a bit you know...childish?
 * How do you know they aren't "children"? I've been playing COD since I was ten. General Geers 08:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doesn't it seem a bit you know...childish?
 * How do you know they aren't "children"? I've been playing COD since I was ten. General Geers 08:58, August 17, 2010 (UTC)


 * i know who they are i used to be on the site. they're not children they just seem childish lol

Speaking as someone who's been involved in that discussion, who's being childish/badmouthing the game? 09:10, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

not the game the wiki and it was Excalibur01


 * OMFG NO WAI --Ashwilso12 15:31, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I don't care what a few airsoft kiddies that take guns way too seriously say about us. As long as they keep their "OMG ALL OF THESE GUNS ARE ANACHRONISTIC WAY TO RUIN MY IMMERSION TREYARCH" crap to IMFDB, then I'm fine with them. Darkman 4 17:38, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

IMI Galil ARM - PROOF!!!!


IMI Galil ARM confirmed?xD Bad editing?:? Morihaus 09:04, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

I hope you are right i LOVE that gun 8~D Moviemaster1993 09:05, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * IIRC most people believe that is actually a silenced AK-47. Darkman 4 19:10, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * Im leaning more towards the Galil ARM rather than the silenced AK, but only time will tell. Sidewinder82 19:15, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * It would be silly to have three Ak-type weapons in one game (Ak-47, RPK and the assumed Galil). It would make the guns in the game feel kinda samey. Darkman 4 21:01, August 17, 2010 (UTC)
 * It won't be that bad. There was the AK-47 & AK-74u in CoD4 and the M4 & M16A4 in both Modern Warfares. . 01:29, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point, but I think having a Galil would take up a slot for another weapon that would look a lot different (like the AR-18 for example). Darkman 4 02:33, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * OMG ShootinP00tin187! Maj. Boner 02:39, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point Darkman. Strangley, I was expecting the Galil to appear in CoD: MW3. :P . 13:52, August 18, 2010 (UTC)
 * Good point Darkman. Strangley, I was expecting the Galil to appear in CoD: MW3. :P . 13:52, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Prestige RC
Can somebody change the word "controller" to "user"? It'll be less confusing for unexperienced gamers and well, idiots. And shouldn't "Retails Versions" be closer to the top?

Dedicated servers?
Anyone knows if the dedicated servers will return? I certainly hope they do! Jupitus 18:37, August 17, 2010 (UTC) nevrmind! I found it! "The PC version of Call of Duty: Black Ops will feature dedicated servers."! Jupitus 18:41, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Note about M60
The reason why the M60 is in the "other" category is because we've only seen it be used as a gun on a helicopter so far. While the M60 is man-portable in real life, we don't know if it will appear as one in-game yet, so there's no reason to put it in the "LMG" category. Darkman 4 21:28, August 17, 2010 (UTC)

Remington R700 and AKM
In the image there is a R700 on his back and an AKM in his hands.Sgt Sprinkles 13:54, August 18, 2010 (UTC)

Or atleast looks like it does anyone know what they actually are.Sgt Sprinkles 13:55, August 18, 2010 (UTC)