User talk:Callofduty4/Archive 2

Archive
I archived your talk page. It was getting too big. Darkman 4 20:30, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

User Badge
I know they look cool, and they seem like a good idea, but I've tried 'em, WYK has tried 'em, and I gave him the same advice. They never refresh no matter what you try, and they just never keep the right edit count. I mean, it says you have 1,332 edits in the badge, but not in your actual edit count page. I'm just saying, it's not accurate, you might want to take it into consideration. 20:53, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Just thought I should let you know. Congrats on your new abilities, by the way. 21:21, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I know you're not an admin (yet, hopefully), it's just that you have a little more power over articles now. And I always considered you to have seniority, for your rep, editcount, and your name (anyone that grabs a name like that first is most likely someone you should treat as an established user, as opposed to, say, Callofduty4 1972, or something like that). 21:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)


 * Wow, thanks a lot. That really means a lot to me. I probably won't run for admin for some time now, I have the power I needed.

Oh, you're not that interested? I can't wait until I can run for admin. I really think the added abilities and power could REALLY let me help this wiki. You should see what I've done on Wikipedia, WITHOUT that sort of privilege. (If you really do want to see that, my username is the same there, too) If I become an admin, the sky's the limit for this website, and we might even get some "fresh faced recruits". 21:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, that means a lot too. Oh, and I said you're not THAT interested. I just like to make myself clear, I know you do want to be an admin at some point, you just sounded like you weren't too crazy about it. If you do have the idea of possibly nominating me, I guess I'm going to have increase my mainspace editcount even more than previously planned, (I was already trying to increase my output so, at the same rate, I'll have a rather big number when I request adminship), huh? 21:52, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Before too much time goes on, I just want to tell you that rollback is intended for vandalism only. If someone adds "POOP BALLS" to an article, you use rollback. If someone adds a very opinionated statement, like "The MP40 is the best weapon ever, since it's 100 times better than the Thompson", you're supposed to undo the edit, and enter in the summary bar why you're undoing it—which, in that case would be due to the fact that it's really opinionated.

Also, be prepared to accidentally revert an edit by clicking on the wrong. Not that that's happened to me, though ^_^"!... 23:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Re
Meh, its not really offensive to anyone-- 22:11, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Ingram's Birthday
I believe that Ingram's birthday (or at least age) is mentioned in Call of Duty 3. I'll check it later and get back to you, but for all CoD3 characters (except for Marcel and the characters you play as) they have a known age. Cpl. Wilding 22:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

I figured that, but I saw that you removed Ingram's birth date a while back, after somebody put it up. (most likely somebody with Call of Duty 3)Cpl. Wilding 13:08, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

UOTM
Hey, thanks, man! It doesn't always look good when you nominate yourself (sometimes it looks like they're just kind of full of themselves, but not always), and it means a lot in general. I'm sure I can get you in the same position soon, too. :) 21:51, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Who said anything about going head to head? I just meant in the future. I know you can nominate yourself, I just thought that might seem desperate or clueless or something. Anyway, don't worry, I'm not making a contest or anything. 13:46, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the compliment
I have a kind of organizational semi-OCD thing with wikis, which results in me doing my best to clean up certain pages I happen upon. I won't be registering yet because my web connection's very spotty (usually only works from 1 to 6 pm), but once I get a new router, I'll probably be here in time for the next Call of Duty game's release in November. I appreciate your noticing my work, and can tell you that if I do register, I hope to keep my contributions of the same quality. Thanks. 74.215.114.200 20:32, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:Admin
Well, your contributions are decent for an admin but you need to work on your people skills. Also, your recent block is still rather fresh in people's minds so that may cause a weak support to turn into an oppose-- 23:43, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

RE: User Names
(Does me responding mean you're not an idiot?)

I don't think that's necessary. If people decide to have an unoriginal username, it's their own fault. What would we even do if we implemented a rule like that? Ban people with character-based names on sight? I think that's harsh and unneeded.

This is somewhat unrelated, but out of the thousands upon thousands of people I've seen across all of the Internet, I've only come across two other people known as "Chia": "Chiatorres2", who is now a friend of mine, and "Chia Heads". 23:12, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Stuff (what a vague title!)
So, yesterday I was doing my normal shenanigans of single-handedly killing hordes of Japanese soldiers and leaving my NPC squadmates in my dust on "Burn 'em Out". I went into one of those mini-bunker emplacements, shot the enemy officer in there, severely wounding him. He went into Last Stand, pulled out his Nambu and started shooting at me. But one thing I noticed was that he was crawling away from me. Wouldn't that be disgraceful by their standards? They're supposed to be willing to give their life for their emporer, or such, and he was crawling away, as if he wanted to live. And didn't officers have to be especially patriotic? That seemed very out of character for him.

Have you ever noticed how many people here play RuneScape? You, me, Bigm, and Ross (I think) at least.

Also relating to RuneScape, would you be interested in seeing my Machinima competition entry once it's done? It'll be teh awesome.

Assuming that you have Shi No Numa and/or Der Riese, I assume that you have Verrückt as well. What, may I ask, is it actually titled as in-game? I've heard that it's fully "Zombie Verrückt". I can't check for myself, but if it really is, its respective article really should be respectfully named.

Lastly, you said that depending on what Bigm says about allowing the moving/merging of the "Edward (Doctor's assistant)", it would be moved. Well, uh, that's just now how wikis work. If we had a Cabal or oligarchy in place, then I suppose, but we don't. Wikis are intended so that you can do things without having to ask permission or get approval before doing it (some exceptions, of course). If you believe that you have either evidence or all-out proof that Edward and Richtofen are one person in the same, then you would be able to move it without asking anyone else. If someone were to disagree, they could always revert your move/merge, then you would present your case on the talk page, have a discussion, and come to a conlusion, agreement, or compromise.

What I'm getting from what you said is that you think that sysops have complete or extra say in matters. Everyone has the same say. 22:02, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
 * I half expected the officer to either kill himself right there, or just do his best to kill me.
 * My video should be done within a few days, so I'll send you the link when it's up.
 * AEAE is an important policy for a wiki, but I'm not sure that it's that well known here; especially since the last, and only, real edit to the page was over a year ago. 21:41, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

Sergenat Major of the Army
Believe me, I thought that sig would be bad-ass to use, and, after giving it some careful consideration, I thought "Meh. I don't actually have that job...yet...and there's only one Sergeant Major of the Army, so I don't one to claim to be better than Kenneth Preston or anything, in a matter this small and mundane." Besides that, if I put "SMA" in my signature instead of "SgM", the connection might not be made as fast. That one letter could really make a difference. But thanks for the tip on how to put it on my user page, I'll do that. 17:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

Rollback
I made a semi-large mistake to do with moving pages, i was wrong. can you fix it?   Critchell   Talk 17:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the support. =]    Maj.Gage   Talk . 22:33, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Machinimaticism
(Grr, Internet Explorer ate up my first edit.)

Rendered, uploaded and entered into the contest.

CMRhA4LuTwc "A Late-Summer's Day Nightmare"

The full version is an extra minute or so, so I had to cut a lot of things out. It made a lot more sense with that added 60 seconds ;o. I'll be uploading the full version in a few days unless I procrastinate.

How many of the parodic references can you spot? Tell me all seven, or however many you may think that you've found, and I'll give you a metaphorical and non-existant cookie. :) 22:37, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

RE:colonel clusterfuck
lol he thought it would be funny, but don't worry my buddy wont do it again. 00:29, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Argh Blargh You Pushy McPusherson
I can't imagine that would get me banned. But I've seen the bullshit Wikipedia doles out on a daily basis with no consideration, so I'm not terribly surprised. Fine, I'll just be a "Good little boy" and sit in the corner of white, 3x3, four-wall room with no impurities and listen to propaganda for feelings.   SgM.   Akyoyo    Talk 20:02, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Re: RFA IN THE COD WIKI OF 09 IN MI
No problem. I have trouble with rambling on about stuff unnecessarily, the trick is to use my rich lexicon to make it work for me. Oooh, I hope you get admin'ed! You really do deserve it. Are you trying to be a Sysop, or a bureaucrat? Or both, as I understand you can be? 07:28, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

And probable? The "probable" UoTM? You might as well say Obama will "probably" be the president. Or in your British case, that Elizabeth II will "probably" be the Queen. Alternatively: Or in your British case, that Gordon Brown will "probably" be the Prime Minister. 07:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Three thank you's? This grovelling pleases me. Perhaps if you shipped, oh, say, 200 lbs. (Hehe.) to me, it might change to a "Strong" support. :P Of course I'm kidding. About the money part. This grovelling still pleases me. 07:42, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Yah, sleepy time for me. Seeya around. 07:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

Re. UOTM
It's really great to have so many people give me this title. Thanks for your support, among them. Sorry the Admin thing doesn't seem to be going that well...but at least you'll definitely be the UoTM soon. It's not the same, but at least you're not completely left in the dust. 03:08, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Meh, I just banned him cuz he argues with me for the sake of arguing with me and trying to get my powers taken away.-- 19:53, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the chart on the featured article page 12:58, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

RE: Your RS vid
I thought you hated the video so much you were avoiding a response because you didn't want to hurt my feelings! ...Or that you just forgot. I was guessing the latter.

The parodies were:
 * 1) Zero Wing/All Your Base Are Belong To Us (opening conversation)
 * 2) "Scream Aim Fire" by Bullet for My Valentine (the line "The only way out is to die" was said by the bad guy, and was also a line from the song)
 * 3) Death Note (the way the main bad guy's voice was altered was inspired by and semi-referencial to how L, Kira and Near would hide their voices during communiation in the show)
 * 4) Saw (general idea; people locked in room by mad man)
 * 5) Band of Brothers (the line "Sir, we can't stay here! We have to keep moving!" was a direct reference to episode seven of Band of Brothers when First Sergeant Lipton confronted First Lieutenant Dike during the Battle of Foy)
 * 6) Arby 'n' the Chief (saying ":'(" as "crying sad face" is a reference as to how Master Chief says his smilies)

And that's all I can remember. :S 19:24, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

New userbox
I think you might be interested in this infobox I made: Template:Welcomecount. 01:07, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

I've seen the ones on your front page before, so probably. It's not too hard to find how many users you welcomed, to properly use the box. I just went to my contributions, did Ctrl+F, (assuming you have Firefox, this is slowly becoming a no-brainer), and found all my edits that had the simple summary "Welcome!". 22:01, September 4, 2009 (UTC)

Leaving
Please don't leave this wiki because you are very good. DevilWarrior112 20:23 September 8, 2009

RE:RFA
Not nearly, there is only a 20% support for your adminship while 80% is required. I would suggest closing it.-- 19:37, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * There's not really much more community to have a say. Your RFA reaches 2 weeks tomorrow which is the time when consensus is reached unless there is a deadlock.-- 19:41, September 9, 2009 (UTC)


 * You can try again whenever you want but 2 weeks is 2 weeks unless there is a deadlock.-- 19:45, September 9, 2009 (UTC)

Re:
Personally I am opposing because of 2 things: 1, you act like an administrator and threaten other users when you have no right to do so and 2, we simply do not need more administrators. 2 active admins and 2 crats is enough for a wiki this size-- 17:10, September 10, 2009 (UTC)

Ban
Sorry BigM. I wasn't trying to show an attitude. I should have worded it differently. I did respect your decision. Please unblock me. I'm sorry. I really don't want to repeat what happened last time.

Please can you unblock me, I need to go about my work here. I guess I won't be an admin. I'm sorry. Come on. I didn't mean it to be a personal attack.

I cannot believe this. Runescape has nothing to do with this wiki. That block is unreasonable. I sent you a total of 2 PMs apologizing and the rest were asking you to reply. Why didn't you reply? Were you looking for another reason to block me? I want to see what Darkman4 and Chia say. You have gone over the top big time.

Well, goodbye guys. My time here was good, but with this unreasonable block, I'm going to coward out like Fedarated. I'm SICK AND TIRED. You officially ruined my time here by blocking me twice unreasonably. I don't want anything to do with you, Rs4life. Why don't you try and imagine how I feel right now.

You'll be lucky if you see me again.

"Why don't you try and imagine how I feel right now." - sorry, I haven't been a 2 year old for 14 years. I forget how it works.-- 20:07, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Forget about it dude, I'm not very impressed to be honest. I'm not angry with anyone BUT MYSELF. Don't start a war here. Fine. 2 weeks.

Actually, after this outburst plus messaging me on Facebook, Dark upped it to infinite. Crybaby meltdown mode begin-- 20:11, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Blocked forever by an admin that had nothing to do with it? Unbelievable.

This is unneeded. I cannot believe I have been blocked from the wiki I loved editing so much. Unbelievable. You guys don't understand how much this wiki meant to me.

PLEASE KEEP THE BLOCK FOR 2 WEEKS!!!!


 * If this wiki meant so much to you I think you should take a long look at yourself, since that's pretty pathetic. Darkman 4 20:18, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

File:http://www.feebleminds-gifs.com/volcano.gif = you-- 20:19, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Fine. I admit I am one of the biggest assholes on the wiki. Just like master190. I really don't know how to stress that enough. I really loved this wiki. Even after I was banned for 1 week, I came back, because I wanted to help. I was in the right state of mind to leave altogether. oh, and don't worry, I know what you and Rs4life have been writing on each others talk pages. That's ok, I can see why you would write that. Remember, I want to have a chat about this.

Oh, and Akyoyo, I'm blocked forever.

Oh, guys, can you actually read once over what I wrote in that RFA? I think you will see that I did not get "pissy" or anything like that. I didnt even mean to get an attitude. Please guys, read it!


 * I'm tired of your shit. When your VFA failed, you should've just said "Oh well" and gone on with your life. Instead, you made a big deal out of it and said things like "You guy's underestimate me!". Here's a hint; those that say stuff like that will usually suck when given a chance to "work their magic". Besides, your whiny attitude tells me that you would be really bad as an admin; the last thing we need is someone that goes off on meltdowns and acts like a child when he doesn't get his way %100. Darkman 4 21:14, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

At least you finally explained why you voted oppose. Now, I ask you kindly to change the block settings. I don't see why you blocked me indefinitely. Why can't you stick to the 2 weeks Rs4life gave me? Or maybe a month would suffice. Please! Why won't you just understand? Why are you being so harsh? You said "A month? A year?" on Rs4life's talk page. Then you go and ban me forever and have a little laugh about it. Please can you take away the indefinite ban. I really just want to forget about all of this shit and get on with my whiny work here. Please will you just agree! I AM SORRY!! I can't stress that enough! Why are you bullying me?

Guys? Please! You don't know how upset you are making me!

Hello?


 * Hello. 22:56, September 12, 2009 (UTC)

I think your being a little to harsh to call of duty 4, was what he did really that bad? 23:04 September 12, 2009 (UTC)

You know, you could help here, Joey. Oh, and I just remembered my editcount of over 1800. I guess this is my reward. Not being able to edit the wiki when MW2 is released. I could have put down so much info because I will be getting it on the day it comes out. Please man. I don't know why you are being so harsh on me.


 * Just give it a rest. Your crybaby behavior and inability to accept getting punished tells me that you deserve your ban. Darkman 4 09:01, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I don't deserve an indefinite ban.... --CallofDuty4 09:52, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Personally I think you guys are being way too harsh on him. He only disagreed with Rs, he never went full-blown "get off my back" on him. He was being perfectly reasonable until you guys slapped a ban on him. If this is the precedent we want to set, if this is what we want people to think is what happens if you disagree with an admin, then we need a SERIOUS overhaul here. Just my 2 cents, let me know if I need a ban like Callofduty4. Cpl. Wilding 12:49, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

I think you guys are being WAY to harsh on him. The tops I think he should be banned for is for 6 months, not friggin forever! Just look at all of the good work he did, he did some prtty major stuff (good I mean). Aside from that, I think this is a perfect example in why Federated left. This isn't really a "fun" wiki if one of the rules is "disagree with the admins and you'll get banned". And if I get banned just for posting this comment, IDK what I'd do.   Maj.Gage   Talk . 15:31, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * Why would I can you for disagreeing with an admin? Callofduty4 got banned because of his bad attitude, not because he disagreed with the admins. Darkman 4 17:18, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks guys. I needed some backup. Now, I need Chiafriend. I tried to contact him on the Runescape wiki, but to no avail.


 * It's not that he disagreed, really. Rs4life claims Callofduty4 adopted an "attitude" with him, when Rs was being biased in his decision. Callofduty4 was trying to tell Rs4life to overlook his previous block so that he (Callofduty4) could contribute more to the community. Rs4life said to not adopt an attitude, then when Callofduty4 defended himself, Rs4life banned him. Rs4life, in my opinion, abused his admin powers. If this continues, then I may leave this Wiki out of disgust at the admins. Cpl. Wilding 17:25, September 13, 2009 (UTC)


 * "But, a block should not interfere with a RFA, as long as that user has learnt their lesson(s). And yes, I have learnt my lessons, so do NOT go saying that I haven't."Sounds like he's having an attitude to me. The first sentence isn't much better; he's making up a rule just so he can be an admin. Darkman 4 18:03, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Callofduty4 did nothing wrong. He just started another RfA, though rather soon, only disagreed with Bigm, and got blocked. Then, was reblocked to an infinite amount of time, followed by being bullied by the admins that blocked him.

I am really disappointed.

Bigm, Dark, what you did was a nearly-textbook example of power abuse. I mean, after blocking him, you both admitted to "letting him edit his user talk page to see the melt down" and "egging him on". Wow. Just, wow. That's the type of things sysops lose their powers over. Admins are supposed to be like officers--examples of what the other users should try to be, not rogue people who have power to cause chaos. 18:21, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Ban changed
On second thought, I think I was a little too harsh. I changed the ban to 3 months. However, I want you to know that this is your last chance; screw up again and I'll give you either a year or permanent ban. Your bad attitude has gone unchecked for too long. Darkman 4 18:11, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Ban again
Okay, Chia unblocked you. I'm not in the mood to have all of the admins get in a war because of you, so I'm letting you stay unblocked. However, you do anything like get sassy with any user (not just admins), and you'll get reblocked. Darkman 4 18:27, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

...
Ho.

Lee.

Shit.

I leave for just a short while because of this overwhelming school I have, and this is what I come back to? Thank goodness for Chia, he seems to be the only one not drunk with power here, a good reason why he's the most senior active admin, let alone user. I can't believe this whole back and forth, man. It's just pitiful what this place has come to. It's clear to me why so many people just up and leave one day, it's so they don't have to write another chapter in the history books before they're forcefully removed by harsh treatment. To be fair, sometimes you're a little edgy, like myself, but you've been around longer, and have been blocked before, so it's obvious they just watch you like a hawk, so they'll jump at any mistake of yours. I'm glad you've looked out for me and helped me onto my feet since joining this wiki, you seem like the only other user I could relate to. It would be sad to see you outta here because of this back-and-forth, but I would totally get it 100%. I think I see now that you secretly had another reason for your yearning for adminship now - to put a whole overhaul on this situation of who runs the place. I'm not sure how you would turn things around, or if you could, but admit it - you hate the admins on here, (sans Chia, probably), and you wanted to shove them aside and do this wiki justice by adding your helpful input anywhere in general. I'm not sure if that was the only thing you were after, but I'd have a hard time believing that it's not something you had in mind. I'm not going to be editing everyday, either, because my summer's over, but it's probably for the best. I'm just not so comfortable with the people here as much anymore. But, it's for the information, we just gotta straighten things out anyway, and keep making sure anyone stopping by can get what they needed to know and then some. Honestly, if it wasn't for this wiki, I would completely suck even more so at Call of Duty, wouldn't know the hints and tricks and ways to put a spin on things and etc. So, I'd imagine you don't want to be around as much before, I might say the same, but I hope you'll also keep helping, no matter what any person says, admin or not, This place just needs you and me. We have our niches, and no matter how angry or inflammatory or misunderstood we get, you just have to push aside people's words, and lend a hand, and keep yourself in check. I hope you don't leave entirely, CoD4, but if you do, I hope you get this first. 19:04, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Im free!
First of all, thank you Darkman, for first changing the block to 3 months.

Secondly, thank you Chia, for unblocking me. And understanding me.

Thirdly, Akyoyo, I don't hate anybody on here. The admins are just doing their jobs. Best leave them to it. No, I won't leave. Apparently I'm unblocked, so I'm going to return to my normal work. I will keep myself in check.

Fourthly, I want to apologize to everybody on this wiki. I realize that recently I have been a whiny bitch. That is why I semi-agreed with Darkman.

Ok, back to work. See you all around.

Darnit! My IP is still blocked. I suppose this is a misunderstanding...

Help!


 * I think the wiki software keep your IP block a day after a person has been unblocked. Its happened to me before. Darkman 4 19:31, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Thanks.


 * No, that's a lie. Done. 19:33, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks Joey.

I'm glad your unblocked call of duty 4, your a big contributor to this wiki, and it would be less informative without you around. 23:55, September 13, 2009 (UTC)

We have won the battle, and life goes on. But have we won the war? We gotta make sure this doesn't happen again. Seriously... Oh, and by the way, Great to have you back CallofDuty4. Keep up the good work. Random Man 0213 01:39, September 14, 2009 (UTC) P.S. Any word from Rs4life? Wonder how he's feeling right now...


 * Um, drama.... I'm a sysop on the RuneScape Wiki, a Crat on the MechScape Wiki, a Sysop on the Answers Wiki, and have multiple crat and sysop rights on many other wiki's.... I'm not trying to but in where I don't belong, but you have been a victim of Power Abuse. Bonzi 04:07, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

Sweet National Guard, he sure was. you should contact the actual Wikia staff. They insulted you meaninglessly on several occasions, tryed to say that you were having an attitude and being pissy etc. when THEY were the ones provoking you, and then that resulted in you getting banned for too long of a time because some of the two most powerful users in this place decided to use that very power and reputation to toy with you like a cat with yarn. There's violations left and right with what they did, not to mention a very large breahc of the AEAE policy (at least that's how I feel), and they can't just shrug off their shenanigans this time. If you don't contact higher ups in time, I'm going ahead and doing that for you. This has gotten way out of hand. P.S. You think you guys can decide that HE'S the one who doesn't deserve administrator rights, while you get to prance around this site and cause the very chaos you'd like to think you take care of? Pathetic, you two. I always had the feeling you weren't the greatest, but this is overwhelmingly ridiculous; your behavior, your communication, your actions, I think if CoD4 admin'ed this wiki all by himself for an hour he could get this place into a much better position than you two have ever done, after all, you're just holding most people back. And you say CoD4 has a bad attitude...might that be only when you're purposefully making it that way? RS, Darkman, Take a look in the mirror at the way YOU act for a change, instead of telling everyone else that theirs is wrong. 04:28, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * My thing is that I admit that I was a bit harsh in permabanning COD4. You can say that I'm bossy or mean or whatever because of the permaban, but generally ive been nice to the users here. hell, ive been cooperative with regular users; you wouldn't see power abusing admins do that. I don't like how this has turned into a generic "good users vs. evil admins" battle you see people try to make out of internet drama. it misses the point that cod4 isn't an angel by any stretch of the imagination and so aren't the admins. we're all guilty in one way or another. trying to frame this as "we the people are taking back our wiki from corrupt admins!" seems childish, silly and takes the wiki too seriously. Darkman 4 04:41, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * The permanent ban wasn't just a bit harsh, it was considerably harsh. If that block had stayed, the obivous would have happened, and he would be effectively banished from the site. Permanent bans should never be issued so willy-nilly. I mean, we know this guy for freak's sake! He isn't a two-bit troll or vandal or anything, he's a very established user within our community! 06:01, September 14, 2009 (UTC)
 * Just because he's established doesn't mean that he's exempt from punishment. However, a permaban was too harsh. Darkman 4 06:08, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey guys, it seems we had quite the predicament here. Now, whether we blame this on the abuse of sysop rights on the behalf of the involved admins, or due to the actions of Mr. Callofduty4, I think we have something we can successfully pass as 'a mis-communication.' Basically the problem here is that Callofduty4 made a few actions that he admits to performing and was subsequently presented with a block (which later turned to a full expulsion from editing here.) That leaves us with a few questions: "did he deserve a block" - "was the duration of the block appropriate" - "did the administrators follow our policy and use good intentions in blocking him". Following what I've seen, I think it's viable to say BigM's block was based upon the concept of teaching this user a decent lesson. Later on after over-zealous amounts of "whining," said block was expanded by one Darkman to supersede as a full-blown expulsion from.


 * Later on as it became evident that several users were against the block, and after attempts of pleading and apologizing made done by Mr. Callofduty4, the block was lifted by Chiafriend12 on the grounds of his "disagreement of the block." This leaves us at this point, as we now have users discussing the situation in even more clarity than during the incident, and leaves us at a time of reflection. Personally, I think Darkman is an amazing contributor to and I would be flabbergasted to see his departure or even the removal of his sysop flag, which I believe he deserved by creating the encyclopedia content we have today. BigM is another amazing user, a great editor, and acted in, from what I can see, a "I've had enough and maybe this block will teach this user something I've been hinting at for far too long" type of PoV. In my opinion, he did what he saw was best for the wiki, not what was best for him (ie. not power abusive.)

Now though, we have users negatively reflecting upon these two users whose actions may be seen negatively from a more general perspective, but less harsh from an objective point of view. Both parties have basically shaken hands and walked off, but I think the true problem lies between the uninvolved parties. I've made not of Chia on Central querying about what would be wise for him to do, and my suggestion for him would be to:
 * 1) IRC or Skype or whatever you guys do and discuss it
 * 2) Get Mr.CoD4 involved on a discussion of his actions
 * 3) Proactively warn CoD4 and embroider that the next block will be permanent
 * 4) Possibly discuss new blocking policies
 * 5) Make a decision, but remember, we can either have a) admins lead the wiki and dictate who is blocked and why, or b) allow everyone to have a say in who is blocked. Both have their benefits and negatives, but you need to stick with one (I'm getting mixed signals now) and stick with it.


 * One note to the above users too: staff are the staff of Wikia, not . They listen to local admins and respect their decisions (almost 100% of the time) and this is not something that would be in the minority. If you dislike what one admin does or says, go to another. If you don't like this post, talk to someone from Special:ListAdmins, going to staff will most likely provoke admins into thinking you are threatening them and in reality will drive you into a corner. Overall, I think I said what needed to be said. 06:09, September 14, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey, this is probably going to seem a bit weird, since I haven't edited in a while and haven't taken part in this fight, however I have been monitoring it and here is what I have to say.

First, Callofduty4 HAS had some problems before, I remember warning him for being nasty and unhelpful in one situation. HOWEVER, I merely warned him and accepted his apology. Although cod4 may have these periods of annoyance, he is a solid and helpful user. Darkman 4 and BigM appear to be way outta line here, and I have seen this as a progressive thing. However, Akyoyo, Darkman is right when he says that cod4 is not by any stretch some "perfect" user that you make him out to be.

On a side note, one thing I would like to mention is that it is very depressing is how much this wiki seems to have fallen apart in my, and others, absense. I do not say this to mean that it falls apart without me, but just as a statement of fact. I am becoming busy and involved in other things at the moment, so I will not be here very often.

Right now, the simplest and best thing to do is to let this one issue lie, and moniter how things go in the future. If anyone would like to contact me about any sort of issue, feel free to as I will ALWAYS respond to a message on my talk page. I will try to step up how often I am here in the next while to see how things go and help out. Darkman and Bigm, although this sounds cliche, I am extremely dissapointed in you. I would have expected more maturity out of long-time members. The way I see it right now, there IS a case of admin abuse from you two, however we'll see how things go before we attempt anything. Maybe a good thing would be for all active admins to go on IRC at some point. Creepydude out.

''Edit: wow nice ninja Joey... >.<''  06:16, September 14, 2009 (UTC)

i cant tell you how I hate to be the center of attention lol. Well, I wrote a full apology to Darkman. I know he has some problems with me, so I tried to resolve them. Please leave Darkman alone. He was only trying to back up RS4life. If you think I'm being stupid, fine. He should not have his sysop powers removed. That's coming from the guy he banned forever. Creepydude, thanks for writing that very long essay. The simple act of doing that means a lot. I think that everybody should be able to have a say in a block, especially if it is guided towards someone who we know here. This is per COD:AEAE.

As for Rs4life, I am slightly disappointed because he decided to egg me on to have a "crybaby meltdown".

I am disappointed in myself for starting all this crap.