Talk:Moon

Scrapped Perk
Well, you say there will be a new perk. We may see the returning of the scrapped perk "Amm-o-Matic" or "Pronaide".high.quality.of.zombies 23:54, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

It is possible, but we will have to wait and see for ourselves. ImperialDragon 00:15, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Does this relate to richtofen taking over the world? he has everything so can you still play as him or his he evil. I think this because he's trying to conquer the world and the promotional image for Rezurecction. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 01:36, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

"Pronaide" was combined with "Tufbrew" to make PhD Flopper. Mezarool 18:45 August 5 2011 (GMT)

This perk might be able to give us a third weapon, Treyarch did say that it was "thrice" the fun
 * Except the game engine isn't built to handle more than two weapons/player. 21:29, August 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Are you kidding? It wasn't built for any specific amount of weapons... try give all while playing zombies... Bhlespaul 13:36, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

End of plotline?
Who else thinks this'll be the end of the zombies plotline? "you'll have all the tools you need to turn back the undead tide once and for all" sounds like a closing line to me. And I think "an all-new perk for thrice the zombie-slaying fun" is hinting that the perk has something to do with the number 3... any guesses? Devilquak 04:56, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

It'll probably be the end. And "thrice" is refereing to the two new Wonder Weapons. CoaZ Talk  05:00, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it will be the four original characters though. Unless they are in spacesuits. If I remember correctly, Richtofan was in a CCCP jumpsuit in Acension. Perhaps Nikolai and Richtofan is in one, and Takeo & Dempsey are in American ones?

It's not. This will be the final map FOR Black Ops. There is going to be a sequel to Black Ops, and that will most likely have zombies. Dr3adnaught 06:25, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I wonder who we're gonna have to free this time ;)Jprince1015 11:49, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Remember how they said it was going to be the end at der riese with the trailer. i dont think it will as zombies is too popular  KingoftheHi115  ·  Need a sig  11:56, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just wait until BO2Jprince1015 12:04, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Does anybody think that it wil be the character from 5 since richtofen got the focusing stone and he now invisible along with the wonder weapon. and I think treyarch would want us to anticipated black ops 2 by waiting to see what happen to them, and that why I say the people from 5 since USA is the only one to land on the moon and it probaly explain who is the pentagon theif is? Also no area 51 too all that said the are 51 was going to be the next map pack!! i think that this is the end to the plotline in zombies and something will happen to the original guys and then the leaders as in jfk will be the next zombies chararcters. Fryingpan57 17:48, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

remember Der Riese from World At War? It appeared as the last Map Pack for World At War, and it's single player description said: "This is where it all started. This is where the master shape took plan. Is this where it all ends?" it could be the same thing here.

"You know, Once upon a time they thought this would end......It never ends!" (  Mickzilla Talk  14:26, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

"In addition to the final chapter"-http://www.callofduty.com/intel/490 This is the end. Badbadbadry 00:29, August 6, 2011 (UTC)badbadbadbadry

It's obviously the last map pack for BO, but they'll undoubtedly continue the Zombies storyline one way or another, Treyarch will make sure of that. I'm just curious if they'll end the current storyline with the WWII characters, or if they'll keep using them. They're pretty popular, so I'm not really sure. They definitely won't re-use the "Five" characters though, for various reasons. The guy above me is totally right, the description for Der Riese hinted at an ending too, but we saw nothing of the like, only flying teddy bears and the Pack-A-Poke machine. Maybe the zombies will be defeated, but they come back later like in every transformers movie. Can't tell for sure yet, we've got nothing to back either side. Devilquak 04:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Der Riese said, "This is where it all began. Is this where it all ends?" On the announcment for this map, they said, "...climax for the zombies story..." The climax is the most exciting part of any game, movie, book, ect. and most of the time in games, the climax is the last part you see. You can't have anything more exciting then the climax after the climax is over. This is the end   CoaZ Talk   17:57, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

It also says "you'll have the tools you need to turn back the undead tide once and for all", so it's implying that this is the last Zombies map, although I could be wrong. TakeoNeedsMoreBullets 05:26, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

QED
it says that this can bless or curse you. this might mean that it gives you powerups or get aways, or more zombies. i dunno, im just throwing out my ideas.

94.15.9.115 15:14, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might plant the QED like a clamore or camera spike and when a group of zombies runs up to you it could either A bless you and open a wormhole and suck all of the zombies in, or B curse you and take the zombies and double them in some way whether it be size or amount just a thought

Special Zombies
Does anyone think there will be special zombies like Shangri-La? Personally I hope to fight the Cosmic Silverback. Dead Ops doesn't do it justice. Oh, and if there is what do you want?BeatOli 15:23, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think they should use the cosmic silverback since he already has a spacesuit on. and he should rush toward you like he does in dead ops

you fools, there is only one enemy for a level set on the moon......

ALIENS!

Original Characters
I'm pretty sure the Original Characters are the characters in Moon, but just for proof: http://www.callofduty.com/blackops/dlc

Read where Rezurrection is: our heroes, reffering to the characters.

I don't see what you taking about

Hopefully you're right

Yes that is what I think also remember to sign your posts. (Jererulz 21:16, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

I hope so but if you watch the behind the scenes im pretty sure i saw a black guy

Xbox vs PS3
XBL has gotten every map pack first so far, u think one time theyll release them at the same time for all the psn users  savageporkchops talk  18:44, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Microsoft's contract is up w/Activision, so XBOX still gets it first. 18:49, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I dont think they are releasing the map packs for xbox first on purpose, i just think that they finish making the xbox version faster than the ps3 one.

No, Microsoft signed a contract with Activision, allowing Microsoft to get Map Packs from Treyarch-created games first. Jerry Wiffle  Waffle  02:52, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * nvm, they announced that its gonna be xbox first, dammit, i just didnt read the entire article
 * this wont get as much ps3 support just cuz itll be too close to mw3 releaseRaygunprofile.png savageporkchops talk Raygunprofile.png 02:59, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just hope they drop it at the begining of september for PS3 and not the end because if it does
 * I not going to buy it it only give me one month to play it and 2 week before MW3 come out are going to go back to MW2 to get ready for MW3. also I notice the on the playstation store the mappack for W.A.W cost $29 dollar as a bundle package but yet they give us the same package plus a new map for 15 dollar who come up with these prices?


 * What if they bring it out a week after xbox then a month...I hope so althought for me I would take zombies over MW3 anyday so... ( Bo-STG_2.PNG Mickzilla Talk Augmenu.png 15:19, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * if it come a week after I will definitly get it. IT wil then give me the time to play the maps from W.A.W. that i never play but if it don't I will just go to my cousin and play the new map there instead of purchasing the mappack.

'''The contract states that Xbox 360 must receive the map packs for CoD before any other system. Activision is not going to violate a profitable contract just because some whiney PS3 gamers want them too.  Poketape'''  Talk 06:24, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

stfu poketape, this conversation was going perfectly fine with no hate until u stepped in savageporkchops talk  01:03, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

poketape the contract states tha xbox get it before any other system that means a day later or a week later xbox still got it before other consoled I'm just saying that if drop set 27 it only give you a week to play each map before MW3 come out and people who going to buy BATTELFIELD have less time with it I like playing zombie I would like to play the new maps more than a week each

Enviroment
It is strange how the zombies are outside and on the surface of the moon and it looks like their walking fine. KingoftheHi115 ·  Need a sig  19:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking the samething that why I asked below what are you thought. other the setion not the moon

Well I doubt zombies need to breathe, but I wonder how they're able to walk without flying off into space. Poketape Talk 18:38, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

the reason they are walking fine on the moon is because the element 115 reactivates the necrotic tissue eliminating the need for oxygen and it seems as though evryone has forgot the moon actually has gravity 86.25.16.28 21:35, August 16, 2011 (UTC) (sorry spartanjohn117 not signed in though)

NOT REALLY THE MOON
I was just thinking that how about these maps don't really take place on the moon but a training facility that has moon seeting around so that astrounat could train that reason I say these is because on the pictures it show the zombie runing and walking on the moon surface now that imposible so i think its a nasa facility or something like that it could be area 51 anybody think I'm on to something it also could explain why Richtofen was wearing a spacesuit in assecion but then it would mess the timeline.

If it's not on the moon, then why can you see earth? CoaZ Talk  21:34, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

the earth could be a picture in the background to make it feel more real.

You make a good point, but if you look at one of the pictures, you can see a zombie that seems to be "flying". 3arc would have to explain how the characters can breath/walk on the surface/outside as most of the pictures show. <--- This can lead to the new perk which could enable you to breath/walk on the outside. Idk, just a thought. Plz excuse me if i fail at signing this, I'm new at this :P <--- N3WB IizinurURLaddrezsteelinurbandwith 03:10, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

/\ that bee cool if there is a perk that let you breath. also the zombie don't have spacesuit if they were working in space they would have spacesuit and how many people could live on the moon there too many zombie to be on the moon and that why I say it's a facility that have moon setting.

there could be a facility on the moon that makes an area of oxygen and regular gravity around the facility like they do on space ships

Okay so these map really take place on the moon I just found the below statement from tryarch This all-Zombies content pack hurls players into orbit with “Moon,” the climax to the Zombies saga, as well as the most challenging and thrilling adventure yet. The undead shift in and out of sight, waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. Undead astronauts easily shamble toward their next meal, unaffected by the base’s fluctuating gravity.

Arm yourself with a space-age arsenal of epic proportions, including the Wave Gun, capable of cooking zombies from the inside out, as well as the Quantum Entanglement Device, which taps into the theories of quantum mechanics to bless (or curse!) your battle against the undead. Along with new equipment and an all-new Perk for thrice the zombie-slaying fun, you’ll have the tools you need to turn back the undead tide once and for all.

Maybe it's the place they faked the moon landing.

We also have to remember that this is in the 1940's, so space travel was pretty much 'revolutionary'. Though it could be possible that they went forward in time, parhaps into the future. SUPACRAAZZEE 01:44, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

If I'm not mistaken, Black Ops takes place from 1961-1968 (the years just before the moon landing, 1969), not the 1940s. Unless the Zombies storyline takes place during CoD:WaW, Zombies would likely take place in the same time period. Even if it is placed in the 1940s, what's to say Moon doesn't take place in the 1960s? TK 234 01:54, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Post-Script: 'Parhaps' is spelled 'perhaps'.

Black Ops takes place in the cold war, but zombies is in the 1940's, as mentioned by Tank Dempsey in Kino der Toten ('Killing zombies since 1945. Ooh-rah!') SUPACRAAZZEE 19:48, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

Group 935 involved
Did anybody notice the crane?



Does this mean that 935 is still functioning after WW2? In WW2, space tech wouldn't have exsisted. Reznov115 Talk  21:25, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * There are severals conspiracy theories that say the Nazis built a base in the moon, and then used Die Glocke to teleport. I still suspect Ascension comes right after this.-21:29, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

WOW! i cant belive it happened

Treyarch I Freakin love you

This is my sci fi fantasy come true

but im 50% perscent possitive its not going to end here

Note
THE TALK PAGE IS FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ARTICLE ONLY Shotrocket6 (T/C/E) 19:10, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

that what eveyone is doing talking about the moon what are you talking about
 * He means that the talk page is for discussing changes to the article, edits, etc. The talk page isn't to be used as a place for discussion about the article's subject, just the article itself. Sgt. S.S. 10:17, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

5 Playable Characters?
Well we have our four heroes in the moon, that's ok (I think so).

BUT in Kino Der Toten every people know abot the 5 pictures in the wall, there you can see de four heroes and the mystery man.

I think that Gresch helps the crew to go to the moon. Probably Gresch can be with them. Is it possible? Can Gresch be the mystery man?

I believe it. 88.19.245.199 20:05, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

No zombies is a 4 player co-op survival game. Gresch if you remember from Ascension is more or less dead. Whilst you free him he is just a ball of light. (Jererulz 21:20, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

There's little reason why Zombies couldn't be made to support five individual players. I don't know how difficult it would be to code it, but they have variable player limits in the Multiplayer component of the game, and it's not like having an extra player ruins gameplay. Cool fool 05:17, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

The fifth picture could be the dead Mexican test subject that Richtofen mentioned in Call of the Dead. Poketape Talk 06:20, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

He is, but they need to explain why he is important and stuff like that. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 06:24, August 6, 2011 (UTC) Remember what takeo says maybe what was will be again. Fryingpan57 23:36, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

In the trailer there was someone I didn't recognize and I'm pretty sure he's black.

I think is one of the characters putting on the space suit (likely takeo)xXHellhamerXx 23:13, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Remeber there were multiple blank portraits on Kino

How did they get here?
Ok so does anyone know how Treyarch is going to say how they got here? E.g. Teleporter at Der Rise to get to Kino. (Jererulz 21:22, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

Rocket from Ascension I suppose? Parhaps Moon comes between Ascension and Call of the Dead. Maybe they took an escape pod from the Moon and landed in Call of the Dead? SUPACRAAZZEE 01:51, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

I believe it said somewhere that they tried to teleport to Area 51, but it was overrun, so they went to the Moon. TakeoNeedsMoreBullets 05:17, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

No i think they teleported after Shangri-La because this is probably where Richtofen is going to unleash his "master plan" and use the Focusing Stone and Golden Rod Novafan365, master of scrap 03:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I think if they didnt free gersch they took the rocket from ascensionand landed on Moon24.0.222.95 15:24, August 16, 2011 (UTC)Globalthermonnuculearwar

There's a rocket behind the temple in Shangri-La that the monkeys use. If you saw a monkey go behind the PaP machine it goes up in to the sky. So maybe they took the rocket.

Swoeen 15:28, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think Swoeen is right but why is everyone saying it comes after ascension? it is in chronological order after all. (Jererulz 21:48, August 16, 2011 (UTC))

It's that a pyramind uderneath where say meanwhile? It look like the one from the loading scene in shangri-la and one of the astronaut seem to be standing what seem to be one. in the loading scene from shangri-la show that they getting suck into a black hole could that be the way they got there?

Explanations for Z and QED?
Ok first the guys at 3arc said that the z may not have been a typo. Now most people just assume the Z is for Zombies but that isn't the case. Z is there in place of S, but Z is just a backwards S really. BACKWARDS. Now Quantum entanglement can cause time travel (theoretically). IF it can use time travel then the element 115 that supposedly crashed into the moon is sent back in time to World War II and setting a chain reaction that causes the Zombies Storyline.

Now for the QED. Quantum Entanglement can cause some things other than time travel and occurs "occurs when electrons, molecules even as large as buckyballs, photons, etc., interact physically and then become separated (from wikipedia). Key word: SEPERATED. The QED acts like the Gersch Device but can instantly kill all the zombies on the map because there molecules are seperated. This is for being "blessed". Being cursed is that you get automaticly downed or that the zombies have more/unlimited health (more zombies cannot appear for space issues). I think it is the more /unlimited health idea personally.

What do you guys think?

-ActionFilmsFan

it might not just include that quantum physics is alot more than that so it could mean even more effects

possible the characters traveled back in time and to 1943 to the moon base

in shangri la they traveled back in time to help gary and brock

Story ending?
If the Zombie story actually ends here, how would it end, with the crew dying 'cos the four-some know the zombie plague has infected most of the world (as of Shangri-La) so how would the story work from here? 14:00, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

it would end with them stopping zombies from ever existing by getting rid of that element 115 meteor. i think that the element 115 meteor might have passed the moon and there is something on their that can destroy it

Remember our favorite docter....he obviously is planning to use the zombies for a big goal /\/\r.6r33&#124;\&#124; &#124;-&#124;@T 23:25, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

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Thealien85 21:52, August 10, 2011 (UTC)If it ends here, I think it should end like you talk to Samantha or you see Dr. Maxis and now 5, etc.XD Thealien85Thealien85 21:52, August 10, 2011 (UTC) =====

In Shangri-La there are massive 115 mines so that's why those people are zombies

Guide?
Dont you guys think it would be really cool if you had gersch guiding you or a ghost doing a running comentary. Someone like the dead meican or samantha(-possible boss battle). I also think they should have a cutscene like every 10 rounds or something like when you complete the easter egg-there will have to be one.

most of this is gueswork but it would be kindof cool.

New Perk
Any chance it is some form of Overkill? (Overquila) It refers to three, which is what overkill would have to do in Zombies, give you three weapon slots. Just a guess. Also if this really is on the moon, then there should be craters that are perfect for making trains >.> Firefunbro 20:55, August 6, 2011 (UTC) The icon is the Overkill perk icon, and maybe this can be related to the double wield wave gunxXHellhamerXx 23:13, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

overkill might give you 2 weapons out the mystery box!

that would be AMAZING, they havent played on tequila yet, and that sounds great, 3 weapons would make my day savageporkchops talk  00:58, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

That'd be awesome, but because there is no gravity, it probably be something to weigh you down 71.183.170.13 20:37, August 11, 2011 (UTC)insomniac58

'The perk name was leaked to be called Three-Gun Tequila'

I call it the tre-quila or tri-quila (Hrovat97 13:13, August 12, 2011 (UTC))

Some theories
I have a couple of ideas on how the crew got there, and what we might see.

{Richtofen, now with both the Golden Rod and the Focusing Stone, once again prepares to teleport. My theory as to why he needs it is to control where you would like to teleport to, and what date it will be. Because the teleporter is capable of time travel, Richtofen teleports to the Moon in the future, or the past, I don't know. But because there is currently no base on the Moon, it must be in the future} {or in ascension the kassmir mechanism overloaded and transported them to cotd behind the door and when they teleported they came to the moon farther in the future in crygogenic tubes asleep and 115 caused them to have the same dream about shangri-la and the focusing stone that after everyone got it they died and woke up to a nighmare and found a button in the tubes and pushed them and found themselves on the moon with only a M1911 and 2 frag grenades they slaughter the undead hoard till the next teleport}

The people on the base discovered the 115 meteor and brought it to the base. Someone working there must have come in contact with it, and became infected, thus infecting everyone there.

Going back to Ascension, specifically the Kassimir Mechanism. The 4th node in the easter egg requires the players to use the Lunar Landers to spell out 'Luna', which in English means Moon. It's been proven that the Mechanism overloaded the teleported, causing the crew to become trapped behind a door. It might be possible that the overload it caused could've teleported the Mechanism to the Moon, so we might see it on the Moon, most likely part of an easter egg.

So going to the weapons now. The Wave Gun, which is supposed to "burn the zombies from the inside-out" might be similar to the Flamethrower or Thundergun. I'm leaning more towards the Flamethrower. I think when its fired at a zombie, that zombie will begin to glow a orange-red color. The inside of there body melts, thus all the bones and internal organs are gone, and the zombies will either melt or explode when they are hit by the Wave Guns blast.

The Quantum Entanglement Device is supposed to "bless or curse the player". I think this. If you are blessed, you might get a power-up or a free perk. If you are cursed, you could lose all your ammo instantly, lose a perk, or get downed instantly.

Again, these are just my theories as to what we might see when we begin fighting the zombies on Moon. Dr3adnaught 00:11, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

First Setting?
It indead is the first setting on the moon but not in space, Second Sun.

It'd be awesome if they crossed-over the story lines 71.183.170.13 20:40, August 11, 2011 (UTC)insomniac58

What Conspiracies?
This is what it says on their website:

Old school Zombie strategies get blown out of the airlock in "Moon," where armed with new perks and a space-age arsenal of weapons, our heroes must overcome undead astronauts and fluctuating gravity as they unearth conspiracies that began in 1943.

What conspiracies in 1943? This could lead to something...Wasthereonce 02:31, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Nacht der Untoten takes place in 1943. That's what they're talking about. CoaZ Talk  17:58, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe but you know in transformers 3 the americans got to the moon first because there was something there and the RUSSIANS were trying to get to it first? Well maybe Russia had got there first(Ascension) and found fragments of the 115 meotor (forgot how to spell it) and the people got infected. My next theory is that there is a satelite on the moon and the golden rod is like a transmiter and the focusing stone could focus the transmition via the satelite and perhaps ever spread a cure or put them under Richtofens control!

All of the is theory and might be wrong(lets face it, it probably is) but this is mearly speculation and no-one knows what the EASTER EGG is and if you will meet SAMANTHA, i know completly off topic but there are allways possibilities! BLOODWILLFALL

Did anybody else see a preview/commercial for the movie "Apollo 18" and think it was a fake trailer for this map? Poketape Talk 05:36, August 8, 2011 (UTC)

I saw that trailer long before the map pack. I can see how someone could think it was for this map. The movie looks cool though. CoaZ Talk  04:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

i hope they add new futuristic, non-wonder weapons, like a plasma grenade from halo, or a laser gun

Halo wasn't the first game to have a plasma grenade. CoaZ Talk  04:30, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

what game before 2001 had a plasma grenade?

115 uses
i think your all forgetting that on der reise, and ascencion, and shangri la, that on the MOON there is a spot of 115, now seeing that from the earth means the lump must be HUGE. therefore richtofen uses the huge 115 meteor to control the earth (from the moon), just a thought SUPERIORsausage 12:19, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

i think the page should be updated, since there are new screenshots for moon at

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.251607584860243.63502.113143338706669&type=1

the links broken Mezarool 00:24, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

false trivia
Someone wrote that this is the first call of duty level to take place in space. False. Second Sun took place in space. for some reason i can't seem to edit this so I'm just going to let you guys know. MAViRICK 04:45, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * This is the first level to be entirely in space so it's correct. You were in space in second sun for like 2 minutes. Carbonite 0 04:47, August 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Either way it does not count as the first level to be set in space as a part of second sun was in space. If someone can edit it do it because I cant. (Jererulz 06:10, August 8, 2011 (UTC))
 * Second Sun was not entirely in space. This on the other hand is entirely in space. The trivia doesn't even say first call of duty level. It says first Zombies level. Carbonite 0 06:13, August 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * i clearly put this is the first ZOMBIE level to be set in space Kacpercod 11:58, August 8, 2011 (UTC)kacpercod
 * i clearly put this is the first ZOMBIE level to be set in space Kacpercod 11:58, August 8, 2011 (UTC)kacpercod


 * It clearly says "This is the first level in zombies and Call of Duty to be set in space". So there ya go. MAViRICK 18:12, August 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Alright someone added entirely. Thanks. MAViRICK 19:53, August 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just to be a stickler. There is info from a fairly reliable source that the pack a punch machine is going to be on Earth at Area 51 making it almost enitrely in space. Not quite entirely. Let's edit it again. Mojojojo2466 13:51, August 13

Boss?
I always thought the last map would have a boss fight at, like, round 30 or 40 or something. Maybe something Romero-style? Samantha in a space suit? I mean, she's an entity, right? Maybe she travelled to the moon? Dosen't she control them?- BURNBAG 83!! 08:39, August 8, 2011 (UTC) Yeah, what if there is a boss. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 19:07, August 8, 2011 (UTC) I think the boss battle would commence once you complete a long and very impossible easter egg.

why hasnt any one made a page for the unnamed perk yet

Trophys/achivements
How many trphys/achivements do think is gonna be for moon? and do you think they'll bring the trophy/achivements from WaW about the zombie maps into black ops? (  Mickzilla Talk  19:37, August 8, 2011 (UTC))

Right now, it is unknown. As for WaW achivs, likely no, because they wern't brought in with the Hardened and Prestige editions of Black Ops.

But that people who brought the hardened and prestige editions don't they have to download the whole mappack?and if so they might put the thropy on there I think I heard in interview that they updated a lot stuff.

I was thinking that maybe they would make 1 achievement for every map, but I'm probably wrong (Manolox70)

Not really first level in space
Remember, one of the levels of Modern Warfare 2 takes place outside the ISS. Warship 04:05, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * * facepalm* it says ZOMBIES level....Carbonite 0 04:06, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

The ISS is still inside Earth's atmosphere. CoaZ Talk  04:12, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * It says, and I quote "This is the first level in Zombies and Call of Duty to be set in space. " As in, not just Zombies, but all of Call of Duty. Warship 04:10, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

"Second Sun was not entirely in space. This on the other hand is entirely in space." Of all the things people have an issue with...Carbonite 0 04:13, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Whatever. One could argue over whether or not to count Low Earth Orbit as Space, just as one could argue whether or not to count the Moon as Space. But I'm not going to. And please, try to refrain from the attitude. Warship 04:18, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

Inside Earth's atmosphere =/= Space. CoaZ Talk  04:21, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

TALK page.
Why is everyone using this as a theory page? Seriously they do this for every article, and I realize that someone else mentioned it. If you have theories, shouldn't you go make a blog or something about it?

Well apparently they are re-designing the definition of "talk page". Think about it though, these are theories ABOUT the article, and the talk page is for discussing stuff ABOUT the article, and the article itself. Novafan365, master of scrap 03:56, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

NEW GUNS
there is going to be a new gun called the wave gun that has been rumured to kill zombies from the inside out. there will also be a new grenade that i think could make zero gravity for a few seconds and act like a monkey bomb. i read on cod wiki that someone said its a hit and miss weapon (Hrovat97 10:43, August 9, 2011 (UTC))

I think that they should keep the raygun but have anther weapon SIMILIAR to it if anubody gets what mean, its getting boring having the raygun as the only wonder weapon with ample ammo like the winderwaffe scavenger vr11 31-blahblah winters howl thundergun are all crowd weapons which u get from the box which are used for kiting i think they should make the wave gun a weapon to be used on one zombie at a time like the vr11 but give it 100 rounds or something

1943?
On the dlc page on the CoD website, it says: "our heroes must overcome undead astronauts and fluctuating gravity as they unearth conspiracies that began in 1943." We already know about the 115 on the moon (go to trivia). Maybe it was found IN 1943? Or Die Glocke. Work on that might have started in 1943. I just don't know, man. - BURNBAG 83!! 11:14, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

New things...

- The new perk a cola, what new upgrade/perk will have?

- The new equipment, what use is going to have?

Nacht der Untoten took place in '43. CoaZ Talk  22:55, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

When did that get said?

I got from here, and Nacht's comic strip from BO. CoaZ Talk  16:27, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

On the page it said Nacht took place after april '45. - BURNBAG 83!! 12:20, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I added that after I read the level description, this only applies to World at War, as for BLops, who knows?

Perks
i think tjhis will be the map where you can buy a fifth perk and the unnamed perk probabaly has something exsclusivily useful for that map only

Time Travel
If you get to the Moon by time travelling back to Ascension, then the events of "Five" and Call of the Dead would have never really happened yet. Anyone have proof that this is the case?Goodboy12 01:26, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Actually 5 was different characters and would have happened either way COTD would have happened without the easter egg but Shangri la would not have.

Actually COTD never happen because at the beginig they say they went to far in to the future meaning they went back to the past that reset anything that happen in the future and COTD is like another dimision just like back to the future 2 he went forward in time and when he got to the past the future event had change.

According to George A. Romero, Zombies had attacked CotD before the events of CotD.

No he say they were doing experiment like necromancers, raising from the dead and that some of the stuff happen right there. So it happen in the past there were no zombie around until original character got there they were shooting a movie using fake zombie until The real one came along and took george that what bring me to my theory that the zombie only come out were Richtofen is at from WW2 to when JFK was president there a couple of years aparts and at the meeting in the beginig of 5 there were no zombie but since Ascesion take place at the same time that would explain the zombie coming out because they just arrive in ascesion in the time period. and JFK is the president so we was brief on what happen in WAW map pack. I would like to know when the moon would take place.

"The coolest thing is, some of that crazy shit happened right here."

- Un-zombified George A. Romero

George clearly states that after a solo/splitscreen game ends, and he isn't a Zombie (not even in his calm state, so don't even point that out). This means that a Zombie attack had already happened, then they began filming. Then the 115 reanimated the dead extras killed by the four actors (who are clearly using real weapons for some very, very odd reason).

Its not like the Original Characters turn people into Zombies. All the maps (except NDU/Verruckt) feature 115, which turns dead people into Zombies. The Original Characters don't cause 115 to activate. In fact, Der Riese was overrun by Zombies before the Original Characters arrived. In "Five", there must be 115 due to the fact that Teleporters are there, and the Americans raided Der Riese. Apart from being contacted by the politicians, Ascension has nothing to do with "Five". Also, improve your grammar.

I never said that the character turn people to zombie. of cource 115 does that but you could clearly see that there is no zombie around in the strart because I don't think if zombie are over running the earth the people are going to shoot movies, and clearly 5 happen and ascesion already happen and that take place in the 60, COTD take place sometime after 2000 so in between these gap, life went a usual I'm just saying that when they arive somewhere the zombie start raising from the dead. it's not like they zombie were waiting 30 years for the characters to show up again.

We don't know when they arrived, Zombies just started showing up again. And we don't know the amount of time it took to get from the cutscene to the start of Call of the Dead. No, from the sound of your last message, it implied that the original characters could turn people into Zombies (because Ascension takes place at the same time as "Five"). A Zombie attack did happen in CotD before the events of CotD though. Who knows what happened to the Zombies? Nobody. George confirms that Zombies had already been at CotD some time between the 40's and the present day.

when I say the ascesion take place as the sametime as five does it was just to provide my theory that zombie just show up when the character get to the timeline the first map was full of zombie and the character were even there. but it could be a alternitive world. or diffent timeline all together I'm just going with what I seen in back to the future movie when he explain timetravel that there were 2 world one that biff married he mother and the one that eveything was just fine I'm pretty sure treyarch using part of the movies to explain time travel.one question does anybody know when samatha and her father dies? also could you make a blog page for these so we could get of the talk page I haven't have time to make a account yet so I could start signing my post.and make blog page.

Samantha and her father were both murdered by Edward Richtofen and Fluffy at an undetermined time before Der Riese. And not a blog, a forum.

Do you think that american in nacht der untoten happen before they die or after? also the nacht der untoten loading screen the time go for 1964 to 1943 could someone from the future came to the past? and could you start a forum.

Phasing Zombies
Where did this info come from? Wasthereonce 21:37, August 10, 2011 (UTC)

Uh, some Xbox forums i believe.--Hiptechboy 01:25, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

This would be a little out there, even for zombies. What mutation would cause this? Jprince1015 19:56, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Another New Perk Idea
what if the new perk had something to do with zero gravity? savageporkchops talk  14:27, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe it will make you jump 3x higher Jprince1015 19:59, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Moon Loading Screen

that kool somebody it's reading this comicbook because they rip the corner of to order something "somebody had a theory that samatha is reading the comic book"

That picture is very interesting because if you look closely at the top little comic slide there is a girls shadow and she's holding a teddy bear. Any ideas?

Some one needs to add gas zombies will return

Add picture
Could someone upload a picture of the new perk icon from the behind the scenes video? My computer cannot respond when I go to the video.Goodboy12 22:07, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Question
How are you supposed to fire your gun in space? Fire can't exist in space for even a second, so therefore, gunfire should be impossible. --With care and happiness,  Supermutantslayer450' You will know the truth... And the truth will set you free.. 02:28, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

thie is not science it's a game where you fight undead who cares how the gun works in space

Actually it's possible to fire a gun in space because the oxygen necessary for the combustion is not taken from the atmosphere, but from the powder of the ammunition RC95 14:02, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Golden Rod in the Loading Screen
Look at the advertisements on the left page of the loading screen, one of them has a picture of the Golden Rod, labeled "V Device"]

I also see the pigs that are in shangri-la inside the tunnel by the M16.

Area 51
FACT: this will be set in Area 51 aswell, Its most likely two people will spawn on the Moon and two in Area 51 and once the power is turned on they can teleport. ( <span title="STG = THE DG-1!"> <span style="color:black" title="DIMITRI! FIRE THE PANZERSCHYRECK!">Mickzilla Talk <span title="Awesome Unreal Gun = AUG!"> 23:17, August 11, 2011 (UTC))

I call BS that was a teleporter from Der Riese Jprince1015 23:44, August 11, 2011 (UTC)

Proof of Area 51? C  oaZ Talk   01:10, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

you got to back it up mate Mezarool 00:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC) area 51? pic Kacpercod 12:04, August 12, 2011 (UTC)kacpercod

Info
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MuaThA8pw8 E.TALE Barracks  Headquarters  01:05, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

Does this page need any more photos from the map

Signed Eminem112233

I have a picture of the new perk machine...
Here it is...Bhlespaul 13:47, August 12, 2011 (UTC)

People the cosmic silverback is in moon if you go under five in kennedys office on pc there is a magazine showing it on the moon saying what the hell is this on the moon poster picture it is in the background looking exactly the same as the picture it is the silverback.69.130.24.35 14:33, August 12, 2011 (UTC)Does anyone else see the cowboy or man with sombrero on the front of the machine. Fryingpan57 23:18, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Could someone add this photo to the page

Last Z Map?
In the trailer, a guy said this was sort of their ''"season finale". Usually after a season finale, there will be another season. Though, you never know.--(not a zombies fanboy) Hiptechboy 01:19, August 13, 2011 (UTC)''

''This is the end of this storyline though i think there will be another i doubt they would stop its so big. DEADBRAINSFORTEA.''

Well, a season finale doesn't necessarily mean there will be another season, as most series end with a season finale. The question is whether Treyarch is making another Call of Duty, and then Zombies will return due to it's popularity. For now, like Der Riese, we can assume this is the last Zombies map... for now.

Original Characters
In the preview it has been comfirmed that the Original Characters return. I saw Nikolai, Dempsey, and Richtofen several times. <font face="Gigi" size="5" color="purple" >Violetta <font face="Agency FB" size="2" color="olive">Richtofen's one crazy scientist! 01:51, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I saw Takeo 88.19.243.57 11:04, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

I seen all the characters expect Richtofen. Nikolai is holding the new wonder weapon.Dempsey was shooting the death machine and Takeo was buying the spacesuit. Violetta where did you see Richtofen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijHgFJtw000&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Picture
Could someone add this picture please? BeatOli 06:34, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

The New Perk
I would like to say I am correct with my previous assumption, it is some form of Overkill that allows you to have three guns since the Emblem is a pistol with two outlines of a pistol under it, effectivly being three pistols. On another note the colors I guessed seem to be correct, Black (Or a really dark green) and White. Anyone agree now? Firefunbro 13:13, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

2 things. 1: if the perk does this it dosnt make sense because perk-o-colas affect the player (jugg turns 2 hits to 4 hits, stamin-up makes you sprint longer, ect.) this justs makes room for a 3rd gun. 2: even if it does i think it might be dual wield so you might get guns doubled (excluding hk211, m52law ect.) (Hrovat97 09:48, August 15, 2011 (UTC))

Astronaut Suit
In the Inside xbox trailer, it showed you could equip/unequip an astronaut suit(well it only showed the helmet). Are we going to make a page for this, or wait until it comes out. O, wait this was the new equipment they were talking about, because it's on the equipment slot.--Hiptechboy 15:11, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Other Map? Area 51?
Pause at 2:14 in the behind the scenes preview.

What could this map be? Sure as hell doesn't look like the moon.

174.110.232.152 15:48, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Yea, it's in Area 51 too, but the editors only care for 100% confirmed news.--Hiptechboy 15:55, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

When takeo gets the space suit, it is similar to the area near the blackbird on hanger 18 so it is very likely it will be in area 51 (Hrovat97 09:50, August 15, 2011 (UTC))



According to this photo, Area 51 will be used to Pack-a-Punch, so you probably won't stay there very long.TakeoNeedsMoreBullets 20:42, August 16, 2011 (UTC)



Moon Loading Screen
I have found a picture of the loading screen for Moon.

Also in the bottom left corner you can see part of the loading screen for Shangri-La & also you can see a shadow of Samantha holding a Teddy Bear in the top right pictures.

guys tell me what you think? Brent Ernst 22:20, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, you see a building's shadow that 3arc made look like Sam's(if anything). It can be compared to Ascension's loading screen with the rocket's shadow looking like 115.--Hiptechboy 23:53, August 13, 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah sorry i forgot to mention that apologies that too. Brent Ernst 01:37, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I wonder who is reading these book it's obvious somebody rip the corner of 2 buy something because now you could now see Shangri-la and on shangri-la loading screen the corner was not rip.

It's that a pyramind uderneath where say meanwhile? It look like the one from the loading scene in shangri-la and one of the astronaut seem to be standing what seem to be one.

and you can see one of what looks like one of the sentry towers in berlin wall multiplayer map to the right of it

86.184.151.33 16:11, August 17, 2011 (UTC)

Holy crap, man. That shadow is wicked. At first I thought it was my eyes playing tricks, but the teddy bear is so vivid and there! Holy crap. Nice find, man. - <font color="Dark Orange">Harold "The Party" Rocks  talk  23:44, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wtf is that!?
Ok so at this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ideqwK-nNv8&feature=relmfu

It's like 30 seconds of gameplay on moon and it shows the QED n stuff, but like 2 seconds into the video there is a "thing" for lack of a better word in front of the guy who is recording. Right after he reloads his AK74u, there is this like creature floating with no lower body, the upper body is black and the head is white. Am I seeing things?&#91;Vo Spader&#93; 01:01, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

EDIT: Honestly it looks like an alien to me...&#91;Vo Spader&#93; 01:04, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

If you read the Moon article, you could probably guess that it is the new phaser zombie. Wasthereonce 01:50, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I noticed that too. Also, the space suit is in the equipment slot during some of the footage, so the new equipment is the space suit. Dr3adnaught 01:59, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

That's right i forgot about them. I was on the idea of aliens from the end of the behind the scenes trailer. Could somebody add it to the gallery? whatever it is, it's important.&#91;Vo Spader&#93; 02:01, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

Crawlers could just be zombified aliens as the only thing thay have any likeness to is monkeys 86.177.196.7 12:19, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

^ Or just aliens

V-R11 ON THE MOON
I was wacthing the trailer and I could swear the I seen the V-R11 weapon in it but I don't see anybody posting it. could someone confirm these?

Depends what time you saw it at.Swoeen 18:20, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

can't tell you time on the trailer but it's toward the end of the video. at work can't watch now I will post time when I get home

Gamma Ray Optics
Did anyone catch the wierd sunglasses under the thundergun ad?

It says "Gamma Ray Optics."

Perhaps it has something to do with the EE.

Thoughts?

Swoeen 18:39, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Space walking?
According to the creaters in this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi5Nr4QvmF8), the players walk very different from the other maps, because of the low gravity. Maybe that should be put under trivia.

New zombies logo???


I was watching the Rezurrection trailer and I noticed this logo flashed at the end when the real life zombie is on the loose. What do you guys think this is? Hose411 07:31, August 16, 2011 (UTC)Hose411

Maybe the CODZL Could be Call of Duty Zombies Live, Like a Movie? That would be pretty awsome. The Sunsword  13:29, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I think it should be an Internet series kinda like Mortal Kombat: Legacy. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 14:37, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

I hope it's gonna be a movie. It would be simply augsome

I hope it's a call of duty zombie campaing that they working on and that the game logo like a spinoff from call of duty game but only zombie. like resident evil and we could play co-op like resident evil 5.

Flamethrower
If you watch the inside xbox trailer when the qed is exploding you will see someone using theirflamethrowerKacpercod 12:27, August 16, 2011 (UTC)kacpercod

thats ill, I actually saw it. New guns anyone? Damac1214

Manual Headgear
I've noticed in all the gameplay videos that you have to press the up directional arrow to use your helmet. Can this get onto the wiki? SUPACRAAZZEE 20:00, August 16, 2011 (UTC)

people read this before any comments about how the zombies are on the moon
because i know there are a lot of stupid kids on this i just want to sayif you would do a little research and find out THE MOON HAS GRAVITY! it is common sense smaller things are attracted to bigger things i.e earth is attraced to the sun >> moon > earth and if we go on the moon us > the moon don't just assume that because there is no gravity in space that there is no gravity on the moon. 86.25.16.28 21:45, August 16, 2011 (UTC) (spartanjohn117)

death machine
I saw dempsey holding a death machine in the video could I add these to the main page.