Call of Duty Wiki:Articles for Deletion/Archive 9

Player terms
I think this is a pointless article since we already have a bigger glossary. I think it should be deleted.Dudebot121256 02:53, February 4, 2011 (UTC)dudebot121256

Support
.Dudebot121256 02:01, February 5, 2011 (UTC)dudebot121256

covered in glossary 02:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Per nominator.

Closed - Seems to be a duplicate article. --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Chickens
Do we really need this? It's not at all notable, and really, chickens have absolutely nothing to do with Call of Duty.We do not have pages for the other animals in Call of Duty. I actually think it should be speedy deleted, to be perfectly honest.

Support
2:14, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Chickens actually are related to an achievement of COD:MW2. DarkLocustSlayer 10:21, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * So are monkeys in Black Ops, but we didn't make a page for them. And really, that should just be written in the article for the trophy/achievement 10:29, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, never mind, we do have a page for monkeys.My point is we shouldn't. 10:32, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

 Shotrocket6  Talk  17:52, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
This is a very healthy article with plenty of information. This wiki is supposed to cover EVERYTHING about the Call of Duty series and this information is interesting to people. Also, There is a trophy and achievement related to chickens as well as an emblem and a few titles about them.Mamemamo1 19:09, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Like I have said, anything pertaining to the goddam trophy can be written in the goddam trophy's article. And how the fuck is this notable in any way? And not to mention there is hardly any information on this article. And your statement about everything being covered is wrong. That falls under COD:GRANULARITY, a policy retired for very good reasons. 05:23, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

04:14, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

These are notable animals, as they can be interacted with, and are seen multiple times in the series. I may not be able to vote, but they are also a power up in DOA, so therefore we should have a page for it, and maybe other info about chickens can be included. ForceRecon21 14:41, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

As somebody has mentioned they are a powerup in DAO and as with all other usable items, is notable. YuriKaslov 19:41, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - No consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Monkeys
Same reason as chickens. Anything pertaining to the achievement/trophy can be written in the achievement/trophy's article.

Support
10:36, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

 Shotrocket6  Talk  17:54, January 3, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
Very similar to the chicken situation apart from this article is poor, but it just needs improvement. Someone out there would find this information interesting you know.Mamemamo1 19:12, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Monke's are a enemy seen in the Zombie map Ascension. This article could provide a strategy to killing them. User lacks 50 mainspace edit requirement. 20:39, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * What the hell? I didn't write that. And I used to be Dragunov, Smuff, so I do have 50 mainspace edits, but who the hell wrote that in my name? Did someone hack my account? 01:11, January 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * My bad, that was a mistake. 06:28, January 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * Who would find this interesting? It's literally a bunch of monkeys locked in cages hopping around. 05:14, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - discussion died down --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Reload Cancel
Tactics page.

08:40, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

 Shotrocket6  Talk  18:07, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

19:34, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * The first sentence reads: "In Call of Duty, reload canceling is a tactic used to decrease reload time which buys precious seconds in intense firefights." Even the article calls it a tactic. 05:18, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * That would be why I said it is badly written as an article. It just needs to be cleaned up, not deleted. - 14:44, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Bollocks, have an entry for it in the damn glossary. That's what it's there for. Yüri Kaslov  19:43, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Smuff [ The cake is a lie. ] 12:51, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Do we really do that to all tactics pages, because I have never seen your argument on any other tactics AFDs.
 * The idea just came to me there, I did it with Camping and it fit nicely. 14:24, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Does that call for a redirect then? 20:05, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 03:59, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Reload canceling refers to the amount of time it takes to reload. If we were to put the difference between actual reload times and animation times an a slot in the weapon infoboxes, and put the term in the glossary, this problem would not be evident.  Shotrocket6  Talk 19:48, February 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * --Scottie theNerd 03:59, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

--Shaniqua69 08:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * What else is it, then? I really like Smuff's idea of making it an AAV article, though. And if someone finds some important info, they can ask a AAV member to put it down in their name or something. 06:13, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Since when does AAV have a monopoly on editing certain articles? No, if we allow this, we set a poor precedent that violates COD:AEAE. --Scottie theNerd 06:40, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Then don't make it an AAV article. 05:50, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

05:50, January 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * You could argue that it's an action. In itself it isn't a tactic, but application of it may be tactical. Compare with sprinting, which is tactical but in itself is not a tactic. --Scottie theNerd 05:10, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well put. 20:45, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - no consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Jonathan (Black Ops)
Firstly, he's never seen nor heard of outside of the mention on the CIA database. Secondly, he is not notable. Thirdly, we do not have pages on Harris' and Brooks' wives or Weaver's sister, so why have an article on this one person? Yüri Kaslov  03:05, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

As nominator. Yüri Kaslov  03:05, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

06:44, January 5, 2011 (UTC)



16:14, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Doctor Richtoffee Userpage · User Talk 19:32, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

 Poketape Talk  03:24, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Per Poketape.  Cpl.Bohater  Talk  00:47, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * We won't know that for a fact unless a sequel is released, though. 06:00, January 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * Forget released, try confirmed or announced.  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  12:28, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Exactly. 20:47, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - no consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Worlds Collide
Has nothing to do with CoD. It is fan-made, badly writed and badly sung. It is not an "alternate" version of Lulluby for a Dead Man either.

Support
As nominator --Conqueror of all Zombies 00:35, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

06:44, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

DMK961 17:53, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - will be deleted if it hasn't been already. --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Griefing
Pointless Conqueror of all Zombies 00:48, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

As nominator Conqueror of all Zombies 00:48, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

 Cpt. Dragunov  06:51, January 8, 2011 (UTC) 06:51, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

LITE992 13:18, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can be covered in the glossary. Yüri Kaslov  23:41, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 03:53, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Per all technique pages. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge yellow; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Cpl.Bohater  Talk 17:04, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - passed --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Team Killing
Same category as Griefing.

LITE992 13:32, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 23:36, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Can be covered in the glossary. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  23:40, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Smuff [ The cake is a lie. ] 01:20, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

A part of the game, especially in Hardcore. --Conqueror of all Zombies 02:09, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 03:50, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - I withdraw, seeing the potential of the article to be written about friendly fire in general as well as team killing. LITE992 11:37, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Only admins can close AfDs. Users do not have ownership of a nominated article for deletion. --Scottie theNerd 10:46, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * My mistake, Scottie. LITE992 11:52, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - no consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Asia
It's the most general article I've ever seen, there's nothing useful here whatsoever. Smuff [ The cake is a lie. ] 01:20, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

- Smuff [ The cake is a lie. ] 01:20, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Changed to 01:34, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * We have pages for all those countries... 14:22, January 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * We do? Woops, you're right.

--Scottie theNerd 03:47, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 01:08, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - Successful AfD, the page has been deleted. -- 12:25, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Unknown Man
Speculation. Everything on the page is already covered in various trivia articles.

As nominator Conqueror of all Zombies 04:34, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Pvt. Trueblood Hello? 04:35, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Kratos2144 06:04, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * Administrators can also undelete articles when required. 19:02, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Total speculation.  bibliomaniac 1  5  07:31, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Only speculation. Dinosaurfan1 00:14, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Really? "Unknown man"? Come on, not notable at all. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  00:15, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

What is the point of this? There's no point at all in keeping this and when he is revealed then we can include this unknown stuff Omnicube1 02:30, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

00:18, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

05:55, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 00:50, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

I say we do not. It's confirmed who the characters are, and there are not any new ones. Conqueror of all Zombies 02:04, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 02:10, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

So? The entire article is speculation is covered in the Shi No Numa trivia section. The character is not notable at all. Conqueror of all Zombies 02:15, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 02:18, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Because, no offense, but you seem to have a bad grasp on "notability". Unknown man does't have a name, and the entire article is based on an empy picture frame in Kino der Toten (and if you look around the map, there is lots of these empty frames) and a small picture covered in leaves in the revamped (and non-canon) Black Ops version of Shi No Numa. Conqueror of all Zombies 02:24, January 19, 2011 (UTC) WAit a minute! The writing in kino says 'Beware the 6'. There are 5 portraits on the wall: The four characters and this man. Also on the floor, there is another portrait, which makes 6... Anyway, he could be Gersh, Yuri, Maxis or one of the marines from verruckt for all we know.....Reznov115 16:20, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - article has been deleted --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sarah
Nobody ever confirmed if the picture is, in fact, of ms. Leary, and just like Lauren, Brooks' wife, and Weaver's sister, if it is not her I feel she is not notable. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  00:55, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

As nominator. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  00:55, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Just delete the picture then. Conqueror of all Zombies 01:02, January 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * She still shouldn't be kept per COD:NOTABLE. Technically, she should be speedy-deleted. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 01:16, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

05:51, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Both of your oppose votes are not valid until one of you can prove how she is notable in the least. That means you need to prove the NPC in the pic is her. If nobody can do that, I'll just get COD4 to speedy-delete it. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 22:03, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yuri, our oppose votes ARE valid. And untill you can prove that it isn't Sarah it can't be speedy-deleted. Conqueror of all Zombies 04:00, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * What kind of backwards bullshit is that? YOU have to prove that it IS Sarah because there is absolutely NO indication whatsoever that she is sarah. Her name is never shown, and for all we know that could just be some random pentagon woman. My evidence is the lack of evidence of her existence in game. Now prove to me that that is her. Not the other way around. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 00:52, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well your evidence is shit. Just because there is lack of evidence dosn't mean that she isn't in the game. Conqueror of all Zombies 20:42, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * And just because you speculate that she IS does NOT mean that she is. Go away, COAZ, your fucking backwards way of thinking is doing nothing but causing ambiguity where NONE exists. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 03:55, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * What the fuck Yuri? Don't you know how to fucking talk to people? Conqueror of all Zombies 19:18, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yuri, parts of what you are saying are making my head hurt. I thunk you're the one with the backwards logic here. This conversation got really confusing really fast. 06:07, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Conqueror of all Zombies 01:15, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * Think of it this way. Let's say you told me that you discovered a new element. Now lets say, I can't see your evidence. Do you tell me to prove that it's NOT there, or do I tell you to prove that it is, since you made the claim that it is in the first place? BTW, Cod4 already deleted the page once. Some idiot restored it. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 01:18, January 20, 2011 (UTC)
 * I saw that someone did that. But the Element thing is different. I'm not saying it IS Sarah, I'm saying it COULD be. Neither of us have proof that it is or isn't her. Conqueror of all Zombies 01:26, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

<font style="background:silver"> Poketape Talk  03:32, January 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * If this is deleted then we should also delete Adrienne Smith as she is just as notable as Sarah.
 * Thank you for pointing that out, dragunov. I will add her to the AFD. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 00:43, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

--
 * It was Sdeleted per COD:NOTABLE. YuriKaslov 18:25, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for pointing that out Alex. Who deleted this page? And why? Conqueror of all Zombies 18:25, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - page has been deleted it seems --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

CH-47 Chinook
Vehicle not in Black Ops (or any CoDs, to date), as carrier of packages (CP, SAM Turret, etc.) is a CH-46 Sea Knight. Also, information on the CH-46 Sea Knight page contains picture evidence that helo in BO is a CH-46 (told by similarities in cockpit and front rotor engine housing), and further evidence: here. - 18:47, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

DMK961 20:29, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Hold on. You oppose deleting the article you nominated for deletion? O.o Sgt. S.S. 20:32, January 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think this is what I was talking about a few days ago, Shotrocket!!! Toldya it happens! M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 20:40, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * I may have been in a rush at that point. Sorry. Changed it to support.

18:06, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Firstly, your sig adds a lot of source coding. Secondly, I don't think it's ever actually referred to in-game. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 20:55, January 12, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, accidentally used the four tildes opposed to the special button which hides the code... 17:10, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, Smuff is right. It IS referred to in game. Go to layers on your playercard and their is an image of the Care Package deliverer and it is called Chinook. 06:44, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * DILLIGAF if a freaking non-canon element of the game calls it a "Chinook"? Wow.  00:54, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well when the game doesn't call it a CH-46 Sea Knight either, it's kind of the only thing we can go by. 17:10, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * If someone can get a link to that playercard stuff, then I'll feel free to remove the RfD (cannae do it meself, BO CD crashed while on a DOA game) - 18:09, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - dead discussion --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Ascension group
Can very easily be covered in trivia for Executive Order.

As nominator Conqueror of all Zombies 04:16, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

06:52, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

DMK961 18:05, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - will be deleted if it hasn't been already --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sgt. Walker
Not notable, I do not remember any regular character called Walker, and you should not even include ranksin the article name.

As nominator, Seijana 00:40, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - It was a glitch page, and irreproducible, as far as I can tell. Deleted. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge #A3A3A3; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:#4A4A4A;"> Sactage  (Talk)   00:55, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Adrienne Smith
should technically be speedy-deleted because she does not fall under COD:NOTABLE, but hey. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  00:44, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Support
As nominator. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  00:44, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

20:41, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Per Yuri.

Neutral
Seijana 00:48, January 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * She's referred to in only one place, never makes an appearance, and bar-none has no real effect on the storyline. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 00:50, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
Closed - Successful --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

John Trent
As with the other two CIA termiinal articles, SHOULD be speedy-deleted. Completely unnotable, never makes any appearance in-game, only mentioned once, etc., etc., etc. Fuck, I'm getting tired of this whole process. It ought to just be speedy deleted!! <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  04:07, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

As nominator. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  04:07, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 09:54, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Except that that would be speculation, which is not allowed per COD:NOT. M1911 small.jpg<font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov M1911 small right.jpg 16:58, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

10:20, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * That isn't a legitimate reason for deletion. --Scottie theNerd 10:45, January 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * Excuse me, but yes it is. That implies that this person isn't notable, for if they were, I probably would have seen the name at some point. 02:35, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Ignorance is not a case for disproving notability. If I knew nothing about Modern Warfare 2 and Shepherd, it doesn't mean that they're not notable. Someone who hasn't played Zombies will not know about Tank Dempsey, but that doesn't mean he isn't notable. Just because you have come across John Trent doesn't automatically make him non-notable. While I do, in a way, understand what you are trying to convey, your rationale is illogical, and that is what I am trying to point out. Unless COD:NOTABLE has a new clause that state "Cpt. Dragunov most have seen it", it is not a legitimate reason. --Scottie theNerd 03:04, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a fantastic policy . I'm kidding. That was extremely well said, but in my opinion this person isn't notable at all. That was really what I was trying to get at. 09:44, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

New Idea: How about we take all of they unnotable characters mentioned in the CIA data system and turned them into subpages right here? 02:35, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * A merger with the CIA Data System is the most appropriate option. --Scottie theNerd 03:04, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 12:28, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

 bibliomaniac 1  5  07:52, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - Dead discussion --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Johnson (Black Ops)
This character never speaks a word, and he is a randomly generated character. He plays not much of a role in the mission.

Support
D octor R ichtoffee T alk 19:14, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
He has a fixed name and rank, and is directly mentioned in-game. That's reason enough to keep him for me. Sgt. S.S. 20:29, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Per Sgt.S.S. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge yellow; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Cpl.Bohater  Talk  21:53, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

DMK961 22:13, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 03:07, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

20:59, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Per all opposing. YuriKaslov 19:38, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - No consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Rogue Colonel
Pointless, mentioned only in intel, and is full of speculation.

Support
01:58, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Per nominator. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge yellow; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Cpl.Bohater  Talk  02:02, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

''"Trivia" is defined as things that are unimportant or inconsequential. For this article, the movie reference is central to the topic, and therefore cannot be considered trivia ''I'm quoting Scottie there, and if a movie reference is the central topic of the article, it should be speedly deleted, due to the fact that it is based on a movie and has very little to do with Black Ops. Conqueror of all Zombies 04:49, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Scottie: But Ryan made an appearance in game, while the Rogue Colonel did not. He was only talked about in an intel document and has nothing to do with the events of Black Ops. He is not notable at all. Conqueror of all Zombies 01:13, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

06:11, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 06:44, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral
--Scottie theNerd 04:17, January 19, 2011 (UTC)
 * @Conquerer of all Zombies: You could say the same for Ryan, who makes a single appearance in a mission with the sole person of being saved to get a trophy named after a Spielberg movie. It's fair to presume that Treyarch writers intentionally put the Rogue Colonel as a reference to contemporary Vietnam War-themed films, just as Payback is based on The Deer Hunter. That the Rogue Colonel has no other role in the game is not grounds for speedy deletion. --Scottie theNerd 05:01, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
Closed - successful --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Abracadavre
We do not know if this is going to be the song, and until then it should be deleted. Conqueror of all Zombies 00:04, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Support
As nominator Conqueror of all Zombies 00:04, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Per nominator. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge yellow; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Cpl.Bohater  Talk 01:10, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Per nominator. 07:07, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
The song is up now so the page should stay.

The song was posted how can anyone deny that the song isnt legit it sounds just like a zombie easter egg.

-The Guy Who's Amazing at Zombies but Lags out

Question
Closed - Won't be deleted, the info is now confirmed. 16:29, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Infinity Ward Times
Not notable at all. It's just a newspaper that is barely seen in the game.

Support
As nominator Conqueror of all Zombies 00:50, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Shouldn't this be speedy deleted? <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge yellow; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Cpl.Bohater  Talk 01:07, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 11:29, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

07:14, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Comment
Closed - 18:28, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

All prestige gamemodes
Nothing stands out in any of these lists, they can just be merged with their respective normal counterparts.

Support
- 12:26, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Per Smuff. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge yellow; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Cpl.Bohater  Talk  21:02, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Per nomination Conqueror of all Zombies 01:20, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Per nomination. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  02:20, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Per nominator. 07:14, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
Closed - all will be deleted ( :S ) --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Blundell
Like the Adrienne Smith article, this involves a charachter that barely is mentioned at all, doesn't affect the story line at all, and has no picture.

Support
- 05:27, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Sgt. S.S. 21:52, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

YuriKaslov 01:38, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

01:20, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 17:38, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
Sgt. S.S. 21:52, January 26, 2011 (UTC)
 * It adds to the case, particularly for characters who may or may not even be in-game, just conjecture. YuriKaslov 01:38, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - will be deleted --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Call of duty world at war collectors edition
I made this on my old account, but i just saw that it is on the main COD WAW page. If it is on the main page, Why do we need this page? Reznov115 21:31, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
--Scottie theNerd 01:36, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Make a section for it in Call of Duty: World at War.

Famas
Should be merged with FAMAS. Sgt. S.S. 22:04, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Support
as nominator. Sgt. S.S. 22:04, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Per nomination. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge white; background-image:-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, right top, from(yellow), to(black)); ;background-image:-moz-linear-gradient(left, yellow, black); -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:red"> Cpl.Bohater Talk '' 22:12, January 27, 2011 (UTC) Withdrawing Vote. ''

Seijana 03:06, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * How are they different? The two have completely different stats, appearance and name. 15:20, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral
--Scottie theNerd 01:18, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
22:16, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Really? There's an ongoing discussion about this sort of thing. Think merging Masterkey and Shotgun (Attachment); or M16 with M16A1 and M16A4. They don't perform the same, nor are they of the same model. <font color="#666600" size="2px">Yüri <font color="#666600" size="2px">Kaslov  22:21, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

01:08, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Never. We should NEVER do this. Conqueror of all Zombies 01:20, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Alright I thought about this for a long time. The Famas in BO is the F1 Felin version while the one in MW2 is the standard version.

Pvt. Trueblood Hello? 03:09, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * I meant make a seperate page for each Spas 12. The firing mode, name, and model are different. [[image:MW_Pickup_Colt45.png|30px]]Pvt. Trueblood Hello? 03:03, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * I meant make a seperate page for each Spas 12. The firing mode, name, and model are different. [[image:MW_Pickup_Colt45.png|30px]]Pvt. Trueblood Hello? 03:03, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Then we're going to have to merge M16 with M16A4, and while we're at it M60->M60E4, and many many more. I think we should keep at what we're doing right now. Major<font color="black" size="2px"> Blackout<font color="green" size="2px">  02:41, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - Famas retains its article. --Callofduty4 18:28, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Comments
The fact that the FAMAS in BO is the G2 Felin instead of the F1 is completely irrelevant. No IRL info, remember? Sgt. S.S. 18:16, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thick-skulled much? Christ, the reason why it matters is because they're different models, different purposes, different damage, EVERYTHING IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THEM. YuriKaslov 19:37, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yuri, what the hell was that about? Go back and carefully re-read what I said before coming at me with that again. Sgt. S.S. 21:42, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
 * What was it about? If you can't figure that out, maybe you're the one who needs to re-read, eh? The basis for their separation wasn't like the M60 or M16 pages, where they're nigh-identical in terms of purpose and performance; the Famas and FAMAS are completely different in every way possible. YuriKaslov 02:44, February 2, 2011 (UTC)
 * They are different models thats like saying the M40A1 is the same as M40A3.
 * Sgt SS, read what Yuri wrote. THEY ARE DIFFERENT. IN EVERY WAY. Hell, they don't even look similar. 09:50, February 2, 2011 (UTC)

Kowloon, Hong Kong
It's pointless, the original AFD nomination never finished and was only opposed on the grounds of COD:NOTABLE as opposed to common sense.

Seijana 02:12, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

It isn't needed.Dudebot121256 02:34, February 3, 2011 (UTC)dudebot121256

I suggest merging it with Kowloon. YuriKaslov 02:19, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 02:29, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

01:22, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

15:30, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

 Seijana 11:54, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

--Scottie theNerd 20:33, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - will be deleted --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

First strike gametype
Badly written. No point. Bioniclepluslotr 02:23, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 02:27, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Misspelled words, no images, no video's and no detail. Worthless article.Dudebot121256 02:32, February 3, 2011 (UTC)dudebot121256

<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge maroon; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Shotrocket6  Talk 19:38, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - will be deleted'''

Pvt. pepper
Chances are he's randomly generated, ranks should not even be included in the article name. This probably qualifies for La Speedy Delete.

Seijana 23:26, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

01:26, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Page is messy, has appalling grammar, is not laid out properly, was obviously written by someone who doesn't have a clue about the MoS, and to cap it all, it's about a randomly generated character. Just put it out of its misery. Sgt. S.S. 22:34, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Deleted --Callofduty4 22:37, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yuri Shulvolski
Never actually makes an appearance, doesn't really affect the story and is partially speculation. Basically falls under COD:NOTABLE.

Then Sophia, Dr. Maxis, Samantha Maxis, Demonic Announcer and Gersch should all be deleted too. Conqueror of all Zombies 04:31, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Changed to Not the correct name. Conqueror of all Zombies 04:35, February 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Is Yuri Kravcheski the correct name?<font color="#83F52C">Senior Sammich <font color="#FF0000">Omnomnom  <font color="##8E6B23">Kartoffeln? 20:36, February 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes it is. Conqueror of all Zombies 01:17, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 movie references
It's pointless.

Seijana 13:44, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Merge with Modern Warfare 2 or something. Pvt. Trueblood Hello? 15:18, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge maroon; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Shotrocket6  Talk  20:41, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 20:07, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * 15:17, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

I'm generally against any pop-culture references in articles. Per all supporting. Sgt. S.S. 20:41, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - no consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Oper­ation Charybdis
Just a lot of nonsense, not relevant to the game or Wiki. This is not the operation that was metioned in-game. All it has wrote on it is 'Woods has a small dic'.Reznov115 15:14, February 5, 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted. 15:18, February 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I already deleted it. Why would you put a notice up on this page for something which obviously doesn't need a vote? Closed --Callofduty4 15:19, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

What's Operation Charybdis? Seijana 23:39, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Nuketown 24/7
This is a fan-made game mode and is only really on the PC. I say that this article should just go. It may even qualify for speedy-deletion, I don't know.

YellowRiolu Leave a message! 18:57, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Closed- I'm playing it on the PS3 at the moment. -- 18:59, February 5, 2011 (UTC)

Ninja Defuse
A tactics page that is not actually an integral part of any game; it is effectively a colloquialism of a normal defuse, with the one difference of being undetected. YuriKaslov 23:30, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

As nominator. YuriKaslov 23:30, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Per Yuri. Conqueror of all Zombies 23:32, February 6, 2011 (UTC)

Per nominator, plus it's mentioned in the XP article. <span style="background-color:black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px black; box-shadow: 0 0 7px black; border: 4px ridge white;"> Trueblood  talk 23:36, February 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's what's called a "challenge", and it goes on the "challenges" page. We don't have pages for Omnicide, Dropping Crates, or Goodbye, do we? No. This is no different. (that last one redirects to the challenges page) YuriKaslov 01:26, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's not a challenge though. It's not listed under the challenges section, and you get no title or xp upon doing it. You just get extra match points when it occurs. Shaniqua69 08:45, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * We also don't have any page on Skewer, Backstabber, Hijacker, longshot, Execution etc. All of which fall under the same category. YuriKaslov 13:41, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just delete it already! PLEASE! It's mentioned in XP, so there's no point of having a page. <span style="background-color:black; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px black; box-shadow: 0 0 7px black; border: 4px ridge white;">US_Army_OR-1.png Trueblood  talk 01:13, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Backstabber is a challenge, and the others can be summed up in a single sentence. Ninja defuses can't really be explained that easily. Maybe a little longer entry in the XP article? That would be fine with me. Are we allowed to lobby for our own AFD's like this? Shaniqua69 19:38, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * I can explain it in a single sentence: "A ninja defuse is a type of bomb defusal in Modern Warfare 2 where one person defuses the bomb in Search and Destroy, within close proximity to the enemy who planted the bomb." And yes, you are allowed to "lobby" your own idea. YuriKaslov 19:41, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's also in sabotage and Demolition. And that sentence is missing a lot, the article expands on it a lot more than a simple definition would. I don't understand why you oppose this article so much, its nothing like skewer, hijacker, longshot, etc. Those are simply in-game bonuses that can be summed up in a single sentence. Now I'm sure you're going to say that ninja defuse is just like those, but its not, some people will play SnD purely for ninja defuses. It's a method of gameplay, the others are just free bonuses. The article also has good information pertaining to what you can do when your the last one alive in SnD. Shaniqua69 14:38, February 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * It's also in sabotage and Demolition. And that sentence is missing a lot, the article expands on it a lot more than a simple definition would. I don't understand why you oppose this article so much, its nothing like skewer, hijacker, longshot, etc. Those are simply in-game bonuses that can be summed up in a single sentence. Now I'm sure you're going to say that ninja defuse is just like those, but its not, some people will play SnD purely for ninja defuses. It's a method of gameplay, the others are just free bonuses. The article also has good information pertaining to what you can do when your the last one alive in SnD. Shaniqua69 14:38, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge maroon; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Shotrocket6  Talk  00:23, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

20:12, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * This afd is not about its quality. As I stated above, there are no articles for the other, near-identical things like skewer, longshot, bullseye, etc., and therefore this would be a hypocritical exception to the precedent rule. If I had taken issue with the quality, I would've put it in the improvement drive or whatever. YuriKaslov 20:29, February 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * And? Skewering is like firing a gun, it's not that similar, and bullseye refers to a way of killing people, not a tactic. And to clarify, I don't care if it's a tactic since it isn't done in any other games I've come across. 21:06, February 7, 2011 (UTC)

 Seijana 23:36, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - No consensus --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Mannequins
Appear in one map. The only thing it provides to gameplay is a song that is almost never played. Not needed at all.

As nominator Conqueror of all Zombies 03:16, February 8, 2011 (UTC).

Non-notable background scenery. Sgt. S.S. 22:19, February 8, 2011 (UTC)

Per Sgt. S.S

<span style="-moz-border-radius-topleft:15px; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:15px; border:4px ridge maroon; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; box-shadow: 0 0 0.6em black; background-color:black"> Shotrocket6  Talk  19:35, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Seijana 20:04, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

14:06, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * If we took that in its most absolute sense, we would have articles on tables, couches, dining chairs, walls, bricks, houses, beds, etc etc. YuriKaslov 17:21, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Eh? --Callofduty4 17:40, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yeah but a table isn't an easter egg, if you shoot a table does it blow up and kill everyone? No. That's not notable, tables don't contribute in Call of Duty to anything other than camping. 17:46, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Per nomination. YuriKaslov 17:21, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

To the opposition, we can easily cover everything about mannequins and the easter egg in Nuketown, y'know. Sgt. S.S. 18:25, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yep, why not throw in everything about Black Ops into Call of Duty: Black Ops for good measure? --Callofduty4 19:07, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's not what I meant and well you know it... Sgt. S.S. 22:03, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

-- 19:05, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Besides the easter egg, they offer nothing to gameplay. Just because you melee one, doesn't mean it has gameplay value. Under that logic, practice targets should have an article too. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; background-color:black; border: 4px ridge #CD2626; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; box-shadow: 0 0 7px;"> Conquerer of all Zombies Talk 19:09, February 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * They're in other games too --Callofduty4 19:16, February 13, 2011 (UTC)
 * So are buildings. The player uses them for cover, but we don't have a page for that. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; background-color:black; border: 4px ridge #CD2626; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; box-shadow: 0 0 7px;"> Conquerer of all Zombies Talk 19:19, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - no consensus (+ flawed arguments by the proposition) --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Paige (Call of duty 4), Paige (Call of duty:World at War), Paige (Call of duty 2)
A NPC who doesn't play a major in the game. The article is short and badly writen too..Just the same article three times over.

As Nominator. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; background-color:black; border: 4px ridge #CD2626; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; box-shadow: 0 0 7px;"> Conquerer of all Zombies Talk 03:13, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not so sure about this one. YuriKaslov 05:35, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I don't know anything about the character from COD4 or WAW, but I can attest to COD2 that there is no randomly generated soldier with the name of "Paige." At the same time, even if they were a scripted character, they might not have done or said anything major.  bibliomaniac 1  5  06:24, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Then they should be deleted per COD:NOTABLE. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; background-color:black; border: 4px ridge #CD2626; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; box-shadow: 0 0 7px;"> Conquerer of all Zombies Talk  18:32, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

00:10, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Kristina
Not a notable character. Per the deletion grounds for Sarah.

Support
As nominator. <span style="-moz-border-radius-topright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; background-color:black; border: 4px ridge #CD2626; -moz-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; -webkit-box-shadow: 0 0 7px; box-shadow: 0 0 7px;"> Conquerer of all Zombies Talk 05:08, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Per COD:NOTABLE. YuriKaslov 05:34, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Per all

Closed - will be deleted --Callofduty4 19:36, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

GoldenEye
If we are to create a page for every game which has influenced the CoD series, we'd have loads of pages like this. As far as I am concerned, James Bond has nothing notable to do with the series.

Seijana 08:46, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain this qualifies for speedy deletion. Sgt. S.S. 10:20, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Evil Tim 10:51, February 13, 2011 (UTC)

Speedy Deleted --Callofduty4 13:40, February 13, 2011 (UTC)