Forum:Adding code to pages with custom backgrounds

Custom backgrounds (seen on the userpages of Sp3ctr3 130 Ki11er and Just a cone, for example) should be banned. They mess with the sidebar and make it harder to navigate their pages and the wiki as a whole. I also want to ban images that scroll with the user, but that's another story. Poketape Talk 22:07, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry Poketape. I disagree the userpage is the one place a user can do what ever they want. This is there own special creation. I am against both of these proposals. But I understand why you would want to get rid of them there are just not a big enough problem to ban in my opinion. 22:19, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose - It's just because you use monobook puh hu, it should just be removed from user talk page where it's not needed and will just create useless lag. -- 22:23, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * i'd say get me to make a remove if not oasis or make them delete it. -- 22:34, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I agree on the latter proposal, but userpage backgrounds are ok. I don't know how is it since it's only lagging Monobook, but I'd let people have their own backgrounds be. However, the images that scroll with the users (like on the talks of Sactage and Cod4) are sometimes really annoying and block the view. At least prevent them being a >300px image in front of the text. 22:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

You have monobook, but when I tried it I squared up with a completely glitched up talk, so it's going to be a problem that increases people's edits and messes up new user's pages if the code isn't done right (or used in the wrong way) which if we promote, we could mess up the wiki in the long run. (but if it messes up Monobook, it may be ill-advised as if one of them vandalises and Poketape's only admin online, forgets to pass on to an admin (due to the backgrounds he can't do everything an admin can, it seems to me) things could get hairy. So I'm not bothered 'cos each has pros and cons. 17:28, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * What on earth are you talking about... 17:54, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * ^ This. 17:57, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Try reading it bit by bit. It explains how vandalism + monobook can lead to something wrong in the long run...oh well if it doesn't make sense then don't worry, it's no biggie and doesn't matter if you can't read it-just ignore it :P 13:33, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Like I said before, Wikia is the official skin on Wikia and you use monobook. Thus, it is your obligation to deal with it; it is not ours to tiptoe around you. 17:52, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Per nub smuff. 17:57, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Wut? I use Monobook and I was able to navigate Sp3c's page just fine. Sgt. S.S. 17:58, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

This is what it looks like on my computer. Poketape Talk 22:10, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * If it's only the sidebar, it's not that much of a big step to go to another page and there use things in the sidebar you want. At least not worth taking the backgrounds away. 22:15, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

22:11, September 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * We're not voting yet, are we? 22:15, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

So, because it screws up with your PC, and a few minority, we should ban them from the wiki? I don't think so.-22:27, September 6, 2011 (UTC)

Nikolai, the Vodka Drinker 22:48, September 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Poketape,
 * I truly don't see the point of this proposal. You suggest that we ban custom backgrounds from the wiki, simply because you can't see your sidebar in Monobook when they're used? Why on earth would we do that?
 * I myself use Monobook, and I find no problem with the custom background images on pages. Allow me to show you what my screen looks like on a page with a custom background image: this is my screen. As you can see, the background does cover up my sidebar, but it shouldn't really cause a problem, because there are still a number of ways I could navigate to a different page:
 * The Search bar is still visible, so I could easily type in a page name and hit "Go" to be brought to that page.
 * The variety of links at the top of the page, which could bring me to Sp3c's talk page, where the search bar is visble.
 * The links to my user and talk pages in the top right hand corner of the page.
 * Choosing one of the above three shouldn't be too hard to do, and I most certainly don't believe it'd be extremely hard to adjust to, I've done the same myself. In addition, a minority of the users here use the Monobook skin, so why ban something that affects an extremely small number of people? It'd hardly be fair for those that use Oasis, would it not?
 * Simply put, I oppose the proposal (when it gets to voting, that is.
 * -- 01:53, September 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Speaking of Custom backgrounds, can someone make me one for my User page? :P 02:56, September 7, 2011 (UTC)

Suggestion - You could make the images have around them, so that people who dislike those backgrounds can add   in own css so it doesn't break pages for you, but the users won't be restricted to do stuff on their own userpage. If you see a userpage which does have backgrounds, but not the class, you can just edit it to have that class, so nobody will be bothered by such images. 08:35, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

It's about as simple as "Monobook does not get supported". It's not the skin that readers will see, therefore it will not be supported. If the background images do not work on Monobook, but they do on Oasis, unfortunately we need to disregard Monobook. 17:03, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * how would it hurt to add that class so that at least monobook can see the sidebar again. I know the Wikia skin is the main skin and it should not be less functional, just because of a secondary skin, monobook, but adding the class would not hurt the wikia skin in any way, so if monobook users would do all the work, I don't see how that could affect anyone badly ;) 19:40, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Joey's code works for me. Can we at least have users add that code to their backgrounds? I'll add it to the ones I know about. Poketape Talk 20:26, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

Vote to add the code
As backgrounds no longer have to be removed due to Joey's code, I say we vote now on whether or not his code gets to be used. (As it seems just adding it is wrong due to the discussion not being over.)

Support
Poketape Talk 21:01, September 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've said this to you so many times now - what in the hell are you talking about? 17:05, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * I use Monobook. I don't care about the backgrounds. The wiki doesn't "mess up" for me at all. 18:30, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose
21:07, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't really get what you're saying. You say they have to copy and paste the code into their own monobook.css page, and then you say they have to copy and paste the code into their page to see the changes. You said the same thing twice. Adding code to one's own monobook.css page isn't the issue, it's adding code to somebody else's userpage that's the issue, because apparently some users don't want other users to have a choice in the matter. BOofficialicon.jpg Poketape  Talk 21:11, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * Just to point out, pasting the .css into ones own skin file would do nothing, the background image code would need to be wrapped with  . I don't see why all users should need to wrap their background images in that, just the few of us who use Monobook, an unsupported skin, can see a sidebar on a few pages. (I even use Monobook myself)  21:12, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * On an unrelated note, "we don't support Monobook" comes across as slightly disturbing. We should be supporting Monobook on essential pages (main page, portal pages, etc.) so long as it exists as an option for editors. 17:47, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

21:12, September 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * But we're not forcing the background users to do anything. Bots add things to pages, so how come we can't simply add the code? To me it's not affecting anybody negatively. I am simply asking if we are allowed to add the code to userpages, not if we must force people to add it. BOofficialicon.jpg Poketape  Talk 21:15, September 9, 2011 (UTC)

13:40, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

CoaZ Talk  16:29, September 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * y u single me out :'( 17:06, September 10, 2011 (UTC) ;)
 * lmao Sp3c.-17:15, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

Per Redskin. 17:08, September 10, 2011 (UTC)

17:25, September 10, 2011 (UTC)