Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

AK-101 w/ shotgun?
I was just watching the leaked gameplay of the favela level, and at the 1:33 mark the player steps over a gun. It's very very blurry, but it looks like it says AK then a number then w/ shotgun. Has anyone spotted this before? i know masterkey shotgun is in the attachments list but what about the gun? here is the vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwXgt1h5Fd0 Bald Eagle Brennan 13:47, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

If it is an AK it would be the AK-47 we keep seeing, not an AK-101. Most people here have been saying its the FAL... I think the shape looks similar to the AA12 but that wouldn't make sense (Yo dawg, I heard you like shotguns, so we put a shotgun on your shotgun so you can shoot while you shoot) OmgHAX! 13:58, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

At first I thought it was the 47, but the numbers looked to long .The pick up icon looks like an AK but with a wider magazine. In fact, I stand by what I said earlier. I definately think it's an AK-101. The pick up icon looks very similar to it (http://free.hit.bg/kalashnikov/ak101.jpg), aside from a different stock. I really hope it's an AK-101. Bald Eagle Brennan 14:15, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

We can hope.--Slacky!!! 16:14, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I saw it before, I'm 100% sure it's the FAL, no question. CAW4 19:35, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

It was an FAL, but AFTER that there is a very blurry AK on the ground. Number and attachment not identifiable, but I would assume it's the same old AK-47 with an attachment we already know. Imrlybord7 01:16, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I would agree that it is an FAL

Nevermind, I thought you were talking about the one right after you left the building. Also, to the person above me, please sign your posts with ~ CAW4 17:36, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

L85 confirmed?
The (highly probable) tag has been removed from the L85A2 in the weapon section. Has it been confirmed? If so, I'm a happy happy gamer. Bald Eagle Brennan 19:32, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e223/dec666/SDC10590.jpg Darkman 4 19:34, September 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * I thank you for this, now I can't wait for this game. The L85A2 is in my top 5 assault rifles(for patriotism reasons)Bald Eagle Brennan 19:37, September 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Sounds good. Where exactly is this scan from? Moozipan Cheese 14:59, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Is it possible the double barreled shotgun they're talking about has double triggers in-game, not on the actual controller? 03:38, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

New page
I've cleaned off almost everything on this page in anticipation for the new gameplay footage being released today. I figured that it would be a lot easier to have a discussion about the new weapons and other new stuff without having to wade through a bunch of old and possibly outdated discussions. Darkman 4 07:25, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks a lot again. --Cpl. Callofduty4 07:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

M9 info/pics
Where has this gun been seen? 69.171.161.79 06:25, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

In the special ops footage. When one of the players gets down, he pulls out a M9. --Cpl. Callofduty4 07:27, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I see thanks. 69.171.161.79 07:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Uzi Side Arm?
There is information that stated that Uzis can be dual wielded, it is not stated which variant however(most likely micro Uzi or uzi pistol). However Robert Boling stated only Side arms can be dual wielded, he also stated there would be some machine pistols... so should we add an Uzi Variant to the weapons list under Side Arms? --Cpt Jack House 07:37, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

It was there a hour ago but I.R.B. took it off because of lack of information on it. Should leave it as is till the video. 69.171.161.79 07:41, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

The mini uzi is confirmed, so maybe. --Cpl. Callofduty4 07:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

If the mini uzi is a sidearm expect the MP5k to be there too :/ 69.171.161.157 07:50, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

That's what I thought, the mp5k looked like it only had a 20 round magazine. Of couse MP5 fans would want the full-size version as a main weapon if that's the case. OmgHAX! 11:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Throwing Knives?
According to an article I read on StickSkills, it indicates that you'll be able to throw knives. Thoughts? Here's the article: http://stickskills.com/news/363/new-modern-warfare-2-details/ StolenRequiem 13:59, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Already on the page, im pretty sure you only get one knife im not sure how it will work --Cpt Jack House 16:36, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds like they'll be pretty useful for stealth classes WouldYouKindly 20:05, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

@Cpt Jack House: Oh damn, sorry, didn't see it was already up! StolenRequiem 20:14, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

The new vid
Ok here's what I got: SCAR bling, possibly a new skin/attachment. Brazillian militia has their own icon, a red hand print. Also AUG bling, this time with the right ticker icon. 5-killstreak predator missile. Extended mag on UMP, FMJ on Tar-21 (full metal jacket?) thrwoing knives definite, .50 cal also in (model unknown) OmgHAX! 18:24, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * You got a link to the new vid? Darkman 4 18:26, September 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * 

I figure it out; bottom-right corner with the grenade icons, throwing knife is the primary grenade. Also Host migration, and the TDI Vector at the end looked like it had dot sight and silencer. Everyone's got a personalized nametag that you see when you kill them. OmgHAX! 18:36, September 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Isn't the Kriss being held at the end of the video? Darkman 4 18:37, September 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Kriss another name for the same weapon. I think it refers to the retracting bolt specifically, but we got it listed as Vector. OmgHAX! 18:44, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * Whatever, you know what I mean.


 * Also, the Kriss has two attachments on it; silencer and red dot sight. Darkman 4 18:48, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Can we assume sniper is M82? Definitly same noise, shape, same muzzle brake. Also, missed that 4-kill streak is "airdrop" OmgHAX! 18:50, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * yeah, seems like it to me. Darkman 4 18:51, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

The RPD appears in the vid very soon after the first flag is captured. It's on the ground. Darkman 4 18:51, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

I just realized, we got full-auto battle rifles now! Where can we put game modes on the page?
 * Start a new section. Darkman 4 18:57, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

What is the kill icon shown at 1:15? Darkman 4 19:02, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Until we get proof from a vid and Infinity Ward, do not listen to some stupid game stop employee about knives and other stuffAlien Rifle 19:51, September 1, 2009 (UTC)Alien Rifle


 * Are you stupid? The Throwing Knife appears at the end of the latest video. Darkman 4 19:52, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

By the looks of the end of the video, the match won't end anymore when the host leaves, the game will just stop for a few moments as a new host is migrated (THANK GOD). WouldYouKindly 19:54, September 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * All the killstreak rewards I know:


 * 3 - UAV (confirmed in latest vid)
 * 4 - Airdrop (confirmed in latest vid)
 * 5 - Predator Missile (confirmed in latest vid)
 * ? - Airstrike (seen in latest vid)
 * 11 - AC-130 (confirmed in first multi vid)
 * 15 - ??? (mentioned in OXM)
 * Don't know if a killstreak list like this can go in the article or not. 74.215.114.200 21:54, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
 * It can go in. Darkman 4 21:57, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

Damn, 15 unlockable killstreaks. Loving the list already, can't imagine what else IW put in the game. Chief z 22:47, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think bling might be an attachment, seeing as how it is listed in the weapon names (SCAR and AUG HBAR). They don't do that for camos, just attachments. Should we list it as "An unknown attachment called Bling"? Imrlybord7 23:32, September 1, 2009 (UTC)

It's probably a new camouflague of somesort. StolenRequiem 00:42, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Wouldnt Bling be Golden? they Description for Gold Camo was Bling in CoD4 --Cpt Jack House


 * 0:59 theres gun on the floor on the bottom left of the screen it looks golden --Cpt Jack House

Like the previous vid, the map is fuzzy at the end of the vid --Cpt Jack House

Also, The new melee stance is not used in this vid --Cpt Jack House
 * Perhaps it's a perk or something. Chief z 05:04, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

pp2000?
someone saw something that looked like a pp2000, i'm not sure if it can be posted. look closely at 402's back. http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/2782/barrett1.png

Ferrariguy1000 05:00, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

That looks like the barett 50 cal.--Slacky!!! 07:24, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

It looks too big to be a PP2000. To me it looks more like an MP7 with a silencer. What do you guys think? Chief z 05:07, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Looks like a silenced MP5K to me, I could be way off though, the picture's pretty blurry WouldYouKindly 05:19, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

The shape is very similar --Cpt Jack House 05:24, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Its definitly some kind of uzi-type SMG with silencer. I can see how it looks like a PP2000 but because its so blurry I can't confirm it. OmgHAX! 14:00, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I know 402 could have just picked that gun up, but I would say the perk Overkill is now probable. BTW I think it's an UZI.

After doing a little research I say its PP2000 by process of elimination. Its triangular shape rules out MP7, Uzi, and MP5K. OmgHAX! 19:41, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with OmgHax!74.137.134.152 20:46, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I can definitely say it's not an MP5k, or any variant or the MP5. To me, the gun looks too robust, if you will, to be a PP2000, which is an awkwardly shaped gun itself. I'm not ruling the PP out, but it looks more like an MP7 or Uzi. Of course, it could just be the blur that's messing with me. Definitley not a MAC-10 or TMP. Chief z 23:31, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Chief z, thats definitley not any MP5 I've seen (although, I suppose it could be an MP5K, but it's highly unlikely.) I'm thinking either PP-2000 or MP7. Doubt it's an Uzi.

Definitely not an Uzi variant. Let me tell you guys, the distinct, jagged foregrip/handguard of the PP-2000 is a dead give away for this gun. I wouldn't doubt at all that the MP7 is going to be in MW2 (and if it isn't, I'm going to IW and do something I'll regret), but that weapon is not it. But I can tell you what just my gut reactions are: they're both going to be in the game, I just know it. I'm adding it to the list, by the way, I think we are in agreement by all this deduction. 04:18, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
 * By the way, I have a neat little plug-in for Firefox that zooms a picture in or out with the mousewheel. If I zoom in enough, it gets to be better quality. I just put my face to the screen, and voila, we have confirmation. --Akyoyo again. 04:30, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

custom player???
Will there be custom player models???--Slacky!!! 07:31, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I'm hoping so, but I haven't heard anything about that yet. Chief z 08:57, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

That would be great, and we are already seeing alot of customizable stuff, like that card on the bottom. --Cpt Jack House 20:41, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

AKs-74u
This is on the cover of MW:Ghost BUT is it in the game???--Slacky!!! 16:11, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Bling
Bling is a camo, finally found a pic of one of the bling weapons. Its some crazy flame pattern. OmgHAX! 17:36, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

I got that from IW forums, and I'm fingind a few other images; looks like the AA12 can use a silencer. Sounds a lot like no country for old men lawl. Hopefully though the AA12, already being an auto-shotty, will be slightly underpowered to compensate. OmgHAX! 17:50, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Lastly UAV jammer's definitly in, watch the radar at the end of the video. It goes all fuzzy near 402 OmgHAX! 17:58, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Where the hell did you get that the AA-12 can use a silencer? The pick-ups now say the attachment, so that AA-12 had no attachment. Imrlybord7 03:40, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Shotguns can actually use silencers (believe it or not), it's just it's not shown alot in movies and games. Proof: http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071124165647AAJ8GV3

However, I don't think the AA-12 can have a silencer. It would look cool though. You may be seeing a compensator. Ferrariguy1000 03:43, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I think that is the AA12 on his back. And, really, a silencer for a shotgun? Why don't you just throw BB's at them with your bare hands? You have to understand how firearms and suppressors work to know that that would just be a ridiculous waste of memory. 03:51, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

According to my proof, The shotcap (some sort of thing that contains the shot and is shot out of the barrel intact until it gets out) has to make it out of the silencer. I'm pretty sure it can fail at times. edit: shotcap is here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f4/Shotgun-shot-sequence-1g.jpg/800px-Shotgun-shot-sequence-1g.jpgFerrariguy1000 03:55, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Even so, I doubt IW would take the time to add shotgun silencers for two reasons: 1. It'd be extremely overpowered. 2. Shotgun suppressors, according to that yahoo answers topic, only reduce the sound by about 6 DB, which isn't very much. WouldYouKindly 04:06, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Guys, I'm not debating physics here. I'm just saying that we have no evidence to support that the AA-12 will be able to accept a suppressor in MW2. Imrlybord7 04:30, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Like ferrariguy said, it could be a compensator. If it is, it might be a replacement for Steady Aim. Or it could be that if you choose Steady Aim for a perk, it adds a compensator to your guns, regardless of what weapons they are. Chief z 04:43, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

What about the XM8?
The XM8 is not confirmed yet. and the G36K hasn't been confirmed.

I can pretty much guarantee that the XM8 won't be in the game. I would expect to see some kind of G36, but we haven't seen one yet. Imrlybord7 01:21, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

New HUD
I must say, I love the new HUD. Very nice design. Cpl. Wilding 20:22, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Its very smooth, good looking, and out of the way. --Cpt Jack House 20:36, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Not to mention the ammo indicators are bigger! I can finally see how much ammo i have on my crappy SDTV! WouldYouKindly 20:38, September 2, 2009 (UTC)

Videos
Does anybody else think that the two short gameplay trailers released before the reveal trailer should be removed, seeing as they only contain snippets of video from the longer trailer? I don't really care if this gets done or not, I'm just suggesting it because it would make the page a little less cluttered.

Weapons
Look at the gun on the back of the guy carrying the riot shield in the new video. What is that gun? -GentlemanBilly-

It's the AK-101, look very close on his back, you will know because of the magazine shape and the upper receiver, very distinctive shape

actually if you payed any attention in the video you would see that when the riot shield guy "passed on" in polite terms.....it was an aa12 auto shotty.... no ak101 is going to be in the game as far as we know..



can we just get rid of the m249 saw all ready?
we all know that the lmg featured in the gameplay trailer was indeed the m240 i have no doubt in my mind. unless new footage comes up confirming it, i believe we should just remove it!

Because in the first trailer one of the Ultranationalists at the airport is holding a gun that some people (myself included) believe looks more like a SAW than an M240. Imrlybord7 04:31, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

yes but notice how the front sight is closer to the tip of the gun, while a saw has the sight more back.

You know what? I'm just going to remove it. I've been debating it for a while, anyway. Imrlybord7 04:48, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Ahh no!! Its back up there now!!

Leave it. Most of us think its a M249. Anyway, it was such an amazing gun in CoD4 that it is highly probable it will be coming back.


 * Amazing? Eww, the M249 SAW was a weaksauce gun in my opinion. Unless you're talking about the wall-mounted ones. Moozipan Cheese 17:02, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

yes well if anyone would take the time to pull up pictures of an m249 saw and an m240 and then a pic of the ultranationalist in the trailer, you would see many more resemblances to the m240. Plus we already saw the m240 in game footage!! The 2 guns' front sights are different for example. Pull up pictures and then tell what you think the gun is. Im holding my ground at the fact that it is an m240. COuld i be wrong, yes. Is it most probable that im wrong? not really..

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:MW2FNminimi.png  =gun of debate http://tgscom.com/images/sharedimages/GunSourceFrontPage/Images/M240/M240-1.jpg       =m240 http://www.imfdb.org/images/2/2a/Fn_m249saw_mk2_10-1-.jpg       =m249 saw

notice the similarities the gun of debate has with the m240 regarding the front sights

and the gap between the magazine and trigger. Can't see it that well in that particular instance, but you can see it in the trailer. OmgHAX! 18:38, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

Yes! you are absolutly right omgHax! I saw the still from the trailer when the guy with the striker is firing, if you zoom in on the guy with the lmg, you can clearly see a gap between the magazine and the trigger guard. An m240 has this trait, while an m249 saw has the magazine and trigger guard basically right next to each other. CASE CLOSED I BELIEVE!!!!!! --Rynrthmn 19:34, September 3, 2009 (UTC)Rynrthmn

Remington 870 should change to Winchester 1200...
you can even see the same green stock like in the first game if you look close enough. Also the pump doesent have the shape of a 870's pump.

I've seen other sources saying it was a W1200. I think they should really get rid of the W1200 and replace it with the 870, but since apparently I was wrong, I'll change it. Imrlybord7 06:13, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

I would also rather it be a remington 870, seeing as it is one of my fav shottys!! but until we see more evidence siding with the 870, id say its the 1200 still =/

why would there be a 1200? Its a heavily outdated gun. It's the 870.

well you say " its the 870" like your 100 percent sure. Call of duty 4 featured the 1200, and its likely that they are bringing many of their guns back. So before we come to conclusions, I believe we should keep it the 1200. I mean where did 870 even come from anyway? For all we know, if its not the 1200, it could be any pump action shotgun, not just the 870 which everyone including me would like to see though. Im just being factual.

http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Image:MW2shotgun.png    =gun of debate http://www.innovativetactical.com/catalog/images/remington/7r96e5m10.jpg       =rem870 http://www.cod4videotips.com/images/w1200.png        =win1200 from cod4

now you cant say that the gun of debate looks more like the 870 than the 1200. It looks almost identicle to the 1200 from cod4. The olive green stock, the front sights, even the pump!

I still think its the 870. Hehe.

Or maybe its the mossburg, the shotgun the 1200 defender is supposed to imitate XD OmgHAX! 20:09, September 3, 2009 (UTC)

xm110?
What is this gun? looks too long to be an m4?