Forum:Review Blogs

Well my proposal is simple. Let a team of users make review blogs, to prevent overuse of them, poor quality and to keep them alive and prevent what happened to the wishlist blogs. Alike how the news team are the only people that can do the news, we have a team of users do review blogs and only let these people do review blogs. This will keep the blogs nice and prevent repeating. There is already a team of reliable users who have agreed to do it. They are a new usergroup I created to write blogs. We will keep the blogs on a balanced regular schedule and let the users vote pick what we review next. We will accept for people to join the group if we see that we need another member or need help. Decisions of the review blogs will be up to this team/user group. So I would like to see if everone approves of this and your thoughts. So have a disscussion then vote. 14:08, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * AdvancedRookie
 * Redskin-26/me
 * Jar teh marksman
 * Cpl.Bohater
 * Sgt. trollz

Discussion
Personaly, I think they shuold jsut be done away with totally. Reznov115 Talk  14:10, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thats what I'm trying to provent from happening!!!14:13, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I feel like this takes away more freedom of the users. I understand why you took away wishlist blogs and why you want to take away review blogs, but personally, I enjoy writing reviews on occassion, and don't want to be limited by not being in a certain usergroup Damac1214 14:11, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * If users want to do their own reviews, they have their userpages for that. You're not allowed to make news blogs if you're not a part of the news team and I don't see you complaining about that.AdvancedRookieSig2.png 14:14, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * I made a news blog when I wasn't part of the news team. -- 14:18, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I enjoy using my blog page, and reviews aren't news, so I don't understand why your making that argument. Damac1214 14:18, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * The argument is that we are trying to keep these at high quality and keep them in taste not used to death like listwish blogs 14:21, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * I understand that, what I just wrote has nothing to do with wishlist blogs. I'm wondering why hes comparing reviews to news. They are not the same. Damac1214 14:23, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Because, there is already a news team that does news. The review team is like that but with reviews.AdvancedRookieSig2.png 14:27, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'd say that people can make reviews if they want, but this would be a review team, and people outside it are forbidden to say they're in it, or anything similar. 14:16, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a better idea, if everyone is going to get annoyed about freedom of speech.AdvancedRookieSig2.png 14:21, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Review team is going to be pointless if you intend to let people write their own reviews. Simply put, the review team can't speak for every user on this wiki Damac1214 14:22, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Can you think of one think that does work FOR EVERYONE. We take suggestions and we will change but what on the wiki works for everyone!? 14:24, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * No, but thats not what i'm saying. I'm saying that a 5 man review team is not a voice for the hundreds of users on this wiki, and you need to accept that. Damac1214 14:30, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * And how many people are on the news team? If we need more members we will get more I dont think number of members is a true problem. 14:31, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * We're not even speaking for the whole wiki. We're making review blogs. We're not voicing the wiki's opinion, we're just providing a service which could help some new players.AdvancedRookieSig2.png 14:34, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Even if thats so, why can't all users do it? Damac1214 14:36, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * The official reviews would be handeled by a team for the sake of organisation and formatting.AdvancedRookieSig2.png 14:37, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * organisation and formatting? pfftDamac1214 14:41, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * The news team post new things people are just finding out, not their own opinions, thus a small team can support the hundreds of users. A review team post their feelings and opinions on a certain topic. To truly be able to represent the whole community, everyone, would have to be a part of the review team. Damac1214 14:34, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * What if reviews are unbiased? If there are more members on the team who all have different opinions then there is more diversity. Also have you heard of a comments section? 14:37, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * You can't have an unbiased review. Thats not a review. Damac1214 14:41, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

{C}Flawed system - these users cannot possibly be speaking for the entire community when they "review" X weapon. They aren't nearly formal or important enough to have a recognised project usergroup. 14:26, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

''THank you! Damac1214 14:28, September 4, 2011 (UTC)''

The idea makes some sense when you're considering a review house with a limited number of professional reviewers whose opinions are widely respected. However, as a wiki, we are inherently a team of freelancer writers. Limiting the number of writers to a few means, essentially, that an arbitrarily selected few represent writers who don't want to be limited in expressing their opinions. If I were interested, for example, I'd much rather do my own write-ups than to go through a tedious process of requesting or voting on which one you guys will do next. Having a large number of low-quality blogs isn't a reason to institute a centralised review committee. --Scottie theNerd 14:42, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Agreed Damac1214 14:44, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

What this group is aiming to do, is to stop the flow of random reviews, because if there amounts to be too many, they may end up getting banned like wishlists, and I'm sure most people would hate to have review blogs banned too. And as for the community, they leave a comment for what gun, or perk or whatever they want next, and then we choose one, so we're interacting with the community aswell. 14:40, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Exactly and if you have a problem with the job we are doing you can tell us and we will fix it!14:48, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

You should be concentrating on Games and DLC, forget weapons and maps, thats why the community can write blogs to. Make both sides happy, limit yourselves. It would eliminate the tedious request/vote system Damac1214 14:50, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

How many COD games are there? 14:51, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

You are contridicting your own arguement now. 14:53, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I'm not contradicting, Im trying to find a solution to make both sides happy. I just want to keep doing reviews, but you want review squad, so You guys cover "Official stuff" but leave the community to make their own blogs on smaller stuff. Compromise. Damac1214 14:56, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

8 main ones, 22 total. Plus all DLC, Thats 35+ topics for you to review. Damac1214 14:53, September 4, 2011 (UTC) Well, we were thinking of doing weapons, perks, attachments, multiplayer maps and equipment. I guess eventually we could add DLC or Game reviews.... 14:55, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

But thats all stuff Users should be allowed to do, if your going to be official, do the big stuff, not the small stuff. Damac1214 14:56, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Ok so...your saying all users should have same rights. Have you ever been on this wiki.14:58, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes and Yes. Damac1214 14:59, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Listen people have had considered these things GONE FOREVER. do you want that. Do you want a spam of review blogs every minute or good review blogs chosen by users who can leave there comments about our job?15:03, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * There hasn't been a spam yet! The only reviews i've seen other than mine have been redskins and maybe a couple sporadic users doing a one off, why is this such a problem? Damac1214 15:07, September 4, 2011 (UTC)
 * Damac when have you ever writen a review blog? The spam I speak of is that the day after I posted the first review 10 poor reviews whent up the next day and 2 of them HAD THE SAME GUN!!!!15:27, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Compare this group to the news blog team. Both are done weekly, there's a specific group for each and if blogs made by people not in the group will be deleted. The difference here being we also don't want the reviews spammed by other users so they'll get banned like wishlists. 15:00, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I know we're not voting yet. 15:05, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

Okay heres the truth now. The news team post topics on things to come that no one knew about. Trailers, Games, DLC, Events, etc. and is updated whenever new news comes out. The review team wants to review small individual parts of games, already out, to limit the ability for non-review team users to do it. We need a news team to find the news and put it here, in a conveinent place. We don't need the review team to post their own opinions on a subject. I respect all of you, I really o, but this is truly a bad idea. You might as well do a couple sporadic Game and DLC reviews Damac1214 15:05, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

News is factual and it's duplicated too much, hence we have a dedicated team. Reviews are opiniated and don't reflect the full story. I'd rather they'd just be limited to having a group of users regurgitate their opinions. Plus, having a team to do so suggests that the wiki fully endorces these opinions which in many ways are far from accurate. 15:11, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Smuff what we are trying to do is not just give opinions on many aspects of CoD games but we are keep these blogs regulated and safe. The first week after I did the first gun review of the week, the next day about 5 review blogs where made in a hour 4/5 of them had poor quality grammar and kinda made no sense15:20, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Than why read them? Or even care? Just ignore them. Damac1214 15:23, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

''This is what Ive been saying, and they haven't heard me. 15:12, September 4, 2011 (UTC)''


 * That's not what you've been saying at all. -.- 15:17, September 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes it is, I said the wiki support thing a while ago, and said the same stuff about the news team vs. review team. Damac1214 15:18, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

I would like to point out that duplication is also a problem in review blogs, as there can be multiple reviews on the same subject. 15:15, September 4, 2011 (UTC)

May I point out that if this group is not given the rights to only make reviews, we will still make reviews, just more people will see them...get the idea they want to make one and then we have a spam of review blogs. Like we had a week ago. We want to PROTECT THESE BLOGS, we will do the guns/maps/games you want, and if you do not like the job we do WE CAN FIX IT. If this fails to pass, then you can expect these blogs to be banned in the futrue. Its up to you all if you want to see that happen.15:24, September 4, 2011 (UTC)