Call of Duty Wiki:Requests for Adminship/Madnessfan34537

I, Madnessfan34537, would like to request for Administrator rights.

I have been active since March 2012, and editing since April 2012. Since then, I have amassed almost 5,000 edits, User of the Month, 6 Awards, Blog Patrol rights, Chat Moderator rights, Rollback rights, and Custodian rights.

I have been a Chat Moderator since May, and I am in Chat/IRC for a good portion of the day. I usually check the ban list to see if there are any Bans needing put into the Archives, as well as notifying the User when their ban has expired. I also have Custodian rights, and have moved countless files, as well as licensing/tagging/categorizing them. 2 other rights are Rollback, and Blog Patrol. I usually look at the Blogs, just reading the comments and the blog itself, and when I see a blog comment that needs deleting, I delete it, and warn the User on their talk page. A lot of the time, I fix typo's, general cleanup when needed, clear redlinks, and one thing I have been doing for the past couple months is try and eliminate the phrase "Not much is known etc." from all Mainspace Articles. Lastly, I am an Active member of the News Team.

I am active in the discussions, mostly the War Room, where I try my best to show my opinion on the Forum. I also take part in the discussion for User of the Month, and take part in ID and AfD's, when I can.

As an Administrator, I would do my very best to help the Wiki, as much as I can, which is the reason I am requesting the tools in the first place. I would block vandals and trolls, protect pages when needed, and delete pages. I would also be glad to perform any other administrator tasks.

Recent Contributions

Blog Comment deletions, Bannings, and File Moves/Deletions

Editcount

Thank you for reading this, 04:25, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support
- I've seen madness grow from a new user to a highly knowledged editor, and a good friend. I have no doubt he'd be a wonderful administrator. --KλT 04:46, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

 Talk 06:06, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

- While i would normally do the "Not yet", you have shown dedication unlike any other user i've seen, and i would trust you with this. Mass Effect (talk) 07:33, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Madness? THIS IS SPARTA Can't ignore what Cod4 said. --MLGisNot4Me talk 10:18, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

User has already demonstrated ability to use the tools effectively and responsibly. -- 10:51, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

He's been doing good since he became more active and I've seen Madness numerous times doing great contributions. 11:02, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Very Weak Support - A great user who has been doing great ever since. However what concerns me is his edit-count, his activity in the War Room and other important areas. I would go neutral, but it's sort of been the inevitable that he would get it by the end of this year. Why not now? (No offense, but this user is really excellent, well known, and I was waiting for his RFA to pop up for a couple of months). -- 11:41, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * whats wrong with his editcount?? --KλT 13:32, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Less then 5,000 is pretty unexpected for a admin. I hope he can improve. -- 13:51, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * number of edits =/= Ability to perform as an admin. :/ --KλT 13:53, August 21, 2012 (UTC)


 * It's not like his edit count won't increase any more, and also, a lot of admins didn't have 5000 edits when they received the rights. 13:56, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Link plox. -- 14:09, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * You can browse previous RfAs. For instance, Eltomo85 had about 3000 when he became one. I wasn't one, though. :P Also, as long as it's not too low, it doesn't really matter. --MLGisNot4Me talk 14:20, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Also adding that in some cases the edit count may be more than meets the eye: deleted contributions don't count towards edit count and can only be seen by sysops. --MLGisNot4Me talk 14:23, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Joe Copp 14:35, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

17:36, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Neutral

 * I only had 6 months of experience :P --KλT 13:50, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * But you had way more experience, say, from the Half Life wiki (Yes, I know COD:NOT, but it certainly helps a candidate's chances if they have experience with the tools.) 13:58, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * So does Madness. He's an admin there too. 14:00, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * But kat had a global edit count in excess of 30,000 when he put up his RfA. 14:11, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I had one that was below 4000... it's arbitrary and global edit count doesn't determine one's ability to be an admin. 14:12, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Global editcount doesn't judge ones ability, however people with more edits generally have more experience. 14:17, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Cod4: Expectations and standards grow bigger by time; n 2008/09, something below 1000 was amazing, where as now many users have over 10000, and two (you and Whisk) over 20000. --MLGisNot4Me talk 14:20, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're right, however the standard of edits should be looked at too. 5000 edits is quite a lot too, anyway. 18:04, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose
Don't get me wrong; Madnessfan34537 is an absolutely fantastic user and I can see him as a good candidate for adminship.

But personally, I'd like to see much more of what he can do. His edits are astounding and he makes great contributions, is friendly to all users, and is just an all-around good guy.

But I don't think he does enough. I'd like to see Madnessfan become much more involved with War Room forums (this is crucial), antivandalism, and doing much more things he is capable of doing besides moderating chat, dealing with files, and making scripts. For now, I say Not Yet. But I definitely can see him as an administrator in the future. DarkMetroid567Talk 04:42, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * He has done or at least attempted antivandalism (even going as far as to tread into the murky depths of #cvn-wikia) and he is always in #cvn-wikia-cod when he's on IRC.
 * You have put down very supportive statements, so why not give him a support? 04:50, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Going and staying in IRC anti-vandalism channels isn't quite anti-vandalism. Besides, #cvn-wikia-cod is slow enough that you really don't need to use it when you're frequently on the Wiki. You'll likely notice vandalism in the RC.
 * Like I said, although I find Madness to be a good editor and a great person, I'm not going to support on things I don't see him do. I believe he should be more involved in more parts of the Wiki like the War Room. I also agree with Smilular's reasoning. DarkMetroid567Talk 04:57, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * You're still clouding two massive positives with two semi-negatives. Madness is plenty involved in the War Room, he's asked me and other admins for help regarding it in the past, and now he's perfectly capable of getting his thoughts down in his own words. He is on top of current matters and holds his opinions on them, whether or not he can write a gigantic essay or simply say "per X" when the latter may be perfectly appropriate is an arbitrary attribute that doesn't affect the administrative abilities which are to block, delete, protect and keep the wiki and its community running smoothly. 05:01, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * War Room forums are more than just voting, which is what I primarily see Madnessfan doing. He needs to get more involved in the discussions surrounding the voting in my opinion. I simply disagree with what you are stating. DarkMetroid567Talk 05:07, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * But what you're now implying is that if a user does not want or does not think it necessary to add into the discussion, then they just can never be an administrator, even if every other trait that a good admin must have is there. To have the pivot point solely rest on war room contributions, which Madness already has, it's not like he has zero Forum edits, is really quite unfair. He does his best with the War Room as I've tried to state above.
 * Don't also overwhelm your view of Madness' forum edits because of his common usage of "Per X" (which is yet to be seen as a negative). Here he basically gives us a step in the right direction by referring to a script to aide a process being discussed in the forum, and here he kicked off the image categorisation, which we've seen to be a major and important project. He is perfectly capable of good forum edits and idea-making. 05:14, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not denying the fact that he has pushed some ideas, as proved by your statement, but I still stand by my point. Besides, my oppose isn't solely based on his War Room forum. I just do not think he has proved of what he is capable of.

Not yet Per DM. Madnessfan is a great user and all, but I do think that he could do more. 04:47, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yep, that's why he'd be perfect for admin tools. What you are saying is the same as DM... very supportive yet you're still not wanting to put that overall support vote. 04:50, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Buuuutttt... what he can do more of has nothing to do with the tools. 05:18, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes it does. Admin rights are given to users who can do more than they currently can with the added tools. You've already stated Madness can do that. 05:23, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Per DM; as well as I would like to see Madness get a more pronounced voice and opinion, as most votes I see him cast use "Per X" as a reasoning. 04:52, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * We even have current admins who do that. Maybe he thinks nothing more needs to be said. It's a bit fruitless to just repeat what other people say in a vote, especially if it's already been done previously. 04:54, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * But the most effective admins throw in new ideas in forums and votes. To me this signifies somebody who isn't afraid to step up and think outside of the box. The main reason I have behind this is when Madness does bring up a new idea, it's usually no more than a sentence or two. If he can improve this, then I would gladly give him support 04:58, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I praise the ability to get down what you mean in a concise and simple manner. And to call the most effective admins to be only those who can throw in new ideas is incorrect - we have plenty of excellent admins who don't visit the forums much anyway. 05:02, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Not yet Per DM I just say give him more time so he can be more involved in the War Room  06:27, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * What's the point? He's already plenty involved in the war room!
 * What do you people want him to do? 17:33, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

Comments/Questions
What's with the Not Yets, they are obviously supportive. Why not support? -- 13:30, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * Because that's what a "not yet" is. It's an "I think they would be good for the position, but I don't think now is the time." 13:37, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'd agree if the opposes weren't actually supporting him.. --KλT 13:40, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

To everyone who says he won't be able to do anything with the tools, Madness currently has Rollback, Custodian, Blog Patrol and Chat mod. He will have things to do as an admin, along with a couple of other tools. 14:06, August 21, 2012 (UTC)

I see how people are saying that I'm not Active enough in the War Room. I don't see how that is true. I have a say in pretty much every discussion, whether it's a vote or a comment, or anything else. And If I'm NOT Active enough, I'll try my best to say as much as I can, even though I'm already doing that.

Also, I see some Users saying they want to see more from me. I do a lot, and I don't see what else I can do, what do they mean when they say that "I can do more If they want to see more, then shouldn't they be supporting? I can't use any of the admin tools, as I'm not an Admin.

So therefore, if they want to see more, they'll be seeing more when I'm an Admin, so why not give me my chance? If they oppose, they won't be able to see "more from me", as they would see it from me as an Admin. 18:02, August 21, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know, but more antivandalism? 18:15, August 21, 2012 (UTC)