Talk:Ascension

ALL BLACK OPS ZOMBIE MAPS CONFIREMED DLC! ok i think every one know that ascencion will be the next zombie map ok
if you guys enter this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAdqFlqxLHg

is a song by two down its call eddy is a lier ok so far,

but if you chek the desc.

it says

"This song is nothing to do with Capitalism, Ascension, Der Leuchtturm or "Moon". ;)

ok so ascencion will be the next map and maybe the other 3 will also be dlc? what you guys think?


 * Not even an official video, so those probably won't appear as maps. 22:23, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

DANG IT!
since all maps that have the ww2 characters have german names it can only be assumed that this features the political characters who doesn't want the political characters 21:51, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

If you remember...Shi No Numa isn't German. Conqueror of all Zombies 21:56, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

yah it is shi no numa is german for swamp of death 19:25, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

I said this before you know. That its the political group because the title isn't in a different language but its not to much of something to go by. Sniperteam 82308 22:16, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

So? "Five" is in a different language for Russians, French, Polish, or any non-english speaking countries that have CoD games sold there. For all we know, Ascension could have a Zombie, a Juggernaut, an Alien and a Goat with human hands as playable characters. Conqueror of all Zombies 22:40, December 23, 2010 (UTC)

that would be awesome 19:25, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

hopefully the next map will be small and without hellhounds and a stable mystery box like nacht der uneton

I was being sarcastic...but it would be awesome! And Shi No Numa is Japanese. Conqueror of all Zombies 02:59, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Shi No Numa is Japanese for Swamp Of Death.1-10 19:35, December 24, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah special ops you need to get things right oh but anyone thinking of a large tower for a zombie map.Sgt Sprinkles 17:43, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Five is also not German. It is only American (and Cuban counting Fidel Castro)

Ascencion location
I think that this map will be in América cuz all other maps are by the place they are (der riese in germany,shi no numa japan). What you guys think?

I'm almost positive that it will be the base in Executive Order. In GKNOVA6, it showed men in gas masks and scientists, both of which would make sense in that facility and I saw NPC looking exactly like that. Also in GKNOVA6, it showed a hallway with an AUG on the wall that looks almost identical to one found in Executive Order. In addition to the above, the group of scientists who worked there were actually called the "Ascencion Group" after all. So this makes it in Baikonur, Kazakh SSR, USSR. --

i've noticed that the characters are all in there own countrys one japan 2 german 1 russian(acencion) and so far no american(in official zombie story not five). wontbackdown 11:38, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Manhattan?
Anyone think the map might take place in Manhattan? What with one of the loading messages saying "Manhattan DOWN" and in the back room of Kino der Toten, doesn't it say "hattan" on the shelf with the meteor? Maybe foreshadowing things to come? Who knows.--With care and happiness, Super Mutant Slayer 450' YOU. LOSE. 20:56, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

Why would it be in Manhattan? it would not fit in the storyline(or would it?).1-10 14:46, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

That's probably a reference to the Manhattan project, a nuclear project performed by Nazi scientists hired by the Americans... like the Ascension scientists, just with America... oh my god it's definitely either Baikonur or Area 5-1. 09:33, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

It is in a Cosmodrone is Germany. (T.Blazingchamion)

Baikonur Cosmodrome is definitely not in germany, it's in the Kazahk SSR. 11:14, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Weapons Found in GKNOVA6
AK-47, HK-21, AUG (or FAMAS) on the wall, and M60Zee DoktorZee Doktor

Moon?
maybe you play as the 3 astronauts of the 1st moon landing, and you are in the rocket on the moon, the zombies are seen coming out of craters where meteors full of 115 have hit, but the spaceship is on it's side due to a crash caused by a couple of zombies. and in one of your vids you said the darkness represents the zombie infested earth, well they ascend from the earth only to go to more darkness (the zombie-infested moon) if anyone would like to expand on this feel free :D TheManUtdFan 22:01, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

That sounds...stupid. No offence. But there would be no traps, rooms or weapons. Conqueror of all Zombies 22:04, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

Locations, locations.
I am the only one that thinks that Nam would be an awesome zombie map??.-Diegox223 16:43, January 1, 2011 (UTC)

That would just be a repeat of Sho Ni Numa. 00:38, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

Didn't thought of that :/ thanks .-Diegox223 22:21, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

@Cpt. DragunovCpt. DragunovContributions/Cpt. Dragunov shi nu numa was in japan not vietnam get it right 

He's stating that a vietnam themed map would be exactly the same as of Shi No Numa /facepalm/ General Geers11:48, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

i doubt that because it wouldnt be a giant hut it would look like one of there vietnam map but who cares cuba would make an awesome locaition based off of havana or crisis

Location
Given the name this is unlikely but if you look in \localized_English_iw04\english\sound\vox\scripted in the game files there is a folder names "zombie_cosmodrone" Inside it there is one wav file named "vox_rus_pa" which cannot be played. I think it has something to do with the header but the fan made tool I found to get around this does not work on any speech files.

Rusalka
Does anyone else think that the Rusalka as a zombie map would kick ass? 09:36, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

Why has the video been removed it hold the most valuable peice of information to be found so far!

Revert the changes asap!

Speculation
Taking into account the name of the map and the clues pointing to a cosmonaut ape, I'm guessing it's going to take place at the Soyuz rocket launch center from the Campaign. The identity of the player characters remains to be seen, but I think it's going to be the characters from the Single Player Campaign (Mason, Woods, Bowman, Hudson or Weaver. Maybe Reznov?).Ldude893 06:58, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Dude, i've told my budy that reznov would be an awesomne playable character but if was going to be somone from the campaign it would have to be mason or weaver because woods and bowman died and there frame/build is to small to fit the silouhett on the picture. Same with reznov and hudson. Weaver could fit it and so could mason.

Hudson is still alive, along with Mason and Weaver.

Woods isn't dead, on one of the terminal intels it's revealed that he is at Hanoi Hamilton.

you talking to me punk
why did my 2 hints about it being based off executive order got removed? - littleNemo


 * Because it was just pure speculation and nothing has been proven yet. --Tbsoldier sig.pngSoldier 02:24, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * with all due respect they were good hints my friend showed them to me and i thought 100% that it was going to be based of executive order and

The newest update on displays a Vitruvian Man-looking drawing with a monkey-like being, hinting a new zombie type, or possibly the to appear in Ascension. is also like a speculation speculating a new zombie type and the refrences are also speculations - littleNemo

Connecting Theories
Alright, I think I have figured this thing out.

On Cosmic Silverback's uniform, there is a Rocket with CCCP written on it. The same applies for Soyuz 2.

Many theories have indicated a fight at Baikonur Cosmodrome.

The latest GKNOVA6 update displayed the Vitruvian man, sparking discussion of the Cosmic Silverback's appearance in this level.

Now connect them. Perhaps Cosmic Silverback was sent into space as a chimp, then came back transformed by element 115. He could have been sent in on Soyuz 2, and now our characters have suddenly gotten there (don't know how). Cosmic Silverback could replace hellhounds, but I don't know how. Does this make any sense to anyone else? 20:40, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

In Array, the word CCCP can be seen branded on things. A Lonely Nomad 20:53, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, CCCP is Russian for USSR, I'm just saying a rocket with CCCP written on it implies a Soviet rocket, or maybe Soyuz 2. 06:46, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Location for Ascension confirmed
It is a soviet launch facility.

http://www.facebook.com/#!/event.php?eid=179925665375432

Accidental Double Post

Who keeps removing the location? this has happened like 5 times now.Mamemamo1 17:23, January 14, 2011 (UTC)

That isn't offical. That's why. Conqueror of all Zombies 20:21, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Silverbacks?
"Cosmic Silverback(s) are set to replace the dogs and the Pentagon Thief."

Any conformation?

I'll take it off, it is speculation. 03:58, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

"Ascension" Numbers
I just happened upon a wierd little...easter egg?...in the loading screen. Occaisonally, seemingly at random, a short cutscene similar to the one at the end of the campaign will play. It started happening not long after First Strike was announced. It's a live-action cutscene where a woman recites "Ascension, [string of numbers]" into a radio transmitter. Has anyone else seen this, and could it bear signifigance to the new map? Mad Mike 04:56, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

That happens when it takes too long for it to load your save file, so it plays a video. You can skip it once it finishes loading. It's been there forever, but I believe that it'll have SOMETHING to do with the map. I'm starting to think that Mason is going to become a zombies character... :P KlawwTheClown 19:24, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

It may not be Mason and the Black Ops team, but I would expect to see some new people. Primarily because GKNOVA and Zombies main menu both show parts of what seems similar to Baikonour launch facility, with scientists, but most importantly, it shows soldiers (bear with me). The soldiers were wearing gas masks, guards or security would not be supplied with these for patrol, even at the heart of the facility. This hints that the soldiers in GKNOVA were not there at the zombie outbreak, but appeared after, what with being fully outfitted for the situation. Most likely they are Special Ops sent in to find out why the facility went dark or to help contain the outbreak, whether Russian or American is debatable. Alpha-125 21:02, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

A bit off topic
Anyone think that the Engineer might appear in this map? It would kinda be cool to see a new zombie type. He would be a bit taller than normal zombies, More health, but a bit slower. Also, with the picture with the engineer in it, There seems to be a deleted map sorta like nuketown with electric poles from Dead Ops Arcade. Also about the Cosmic Silverback, It would be cool to seem him appear. He would punch players sending them flying back, He would steal 500-1000 points from players, Can be killed and has a bit more health than the theif, but stays longer. Killing him rewards the player(s) with 1250 points if they havnt been hit by him and players hit by him gets their points back. Lasmoore 23:06, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking this. There may be, instead of Hellhounds/weapon thief round, a round of cumbersome until shot juggernaut zombies. It would make sense, seeing as Ascnesion is a launch facility and there would be lots of workers around when the outbreak began. A Lonely Nomad 22:18, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Seems cool, Or just a new juggernaut zombie seems cool. It has more health, you must knock off its armor to get to the center and kill it. But, it is alot slower than normal zombies. Lasmoore 23:06, January 16, 2011 (UTC)

Nazi science labs?
Well since ascension was a group of nazi scientest the map might possibaly be se in germany or poland. Also if you watch the trailor closely you can see the moon from der reise. It is also noted that the zombies at the end of the trailor are the same graphics of those from the origanal zombie maps.

"It is confirmed to take place in a Soviet launch facility."
I couldn't help but notice this entry in the Ascension page. When and who confirmed this? o_O

Dave55811 18:16, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

I think that Treyarch confirmed it somewhere. Conqueror of all Zombies 18:22, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Confirmation. Confirmation everywhere.
Every thing posted here has been said before in a leak on YouTube a while back. This could make the leak very true as Black hole bombs and russian dolls were mentioned, but what might be interesting is that the leak mentioned a 'Sickle' instead of a bowie knife, the first room being a room in which increased gravity is tested on astronaughts before they go into space and a round which replaces the dogs and features large groups of small monkeys attacking the player.

aaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwww yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahMamemamo1 21:11, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

OK guy, o to round this up... it does take place in the campaign level with the rocket in it. its basically an alternate universe. YOU PLAY AS MASON, BOWMAN, WOODS, and the other guy u get help from in campaign. There are 2 new perks, but can some1 explain 2 me the PhD Flopper perk and the 3 new weapons? what are they? you plant the bomb in the rocket but then discover the scientists are infected, etc, etc.

No,. It has already been confirmed that you play as the original 4. did you even click the link?Mamemamo1 21:37, January 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah really, click the link. AND HIS NAME IS WEAVER, NOT THE OTHER GUY YOU GET HELP FROM IN THE CAMPAIGN. Don't go hatin' on my favorite character. 08:27, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

You don't play as Mason, Bowman, Woods, and Hudson or Weaver. You play as the 4 guys from Kino. D4rkHeart780 19:23, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

I'm well aware of the speculation Dempsey, Richtofen, Nikolai, and Takeo will return. I was just telling him to never call weaver that again. jk, I really don't care, he's just my favorite character. 11:26, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Ascension info is still classified

Oh look. the new trailer confirms yet more of the source I found. looks like a sickle might be on its way after all! ~mamemamo1

Making & Deleting
Should we create articles for the new weapons? It seems like they will come out of the mystery box, Making them Wonder Weapons. When we get new info we should create them. (Although its propally safe to know that the black hole bombs make, well, black holes.) Also, We should delete all the Acsecion info of the Cosmic Silverback article. Because the info we have at the moment states that the monkeys will be small,(Silverback is a ape anyways, not monkey), and there will be multiple monkeys, not a single. (Although there are more Cosmic Silverbacks) Also, when did we get the info that he is a zombie? Sure he propally is one but still. He could be just be a ape that happened to land when the zombies came and survived. Lasmoore 04:58, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Are you sure...
Yea i know IGN confirmed it but is it just 3arc making fun of the stuff people post in the forums...?

Nope 3arc won't do that especially if it's their first map pack for a new gameSLAYER 08:08, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Matryoshka Dolls?
We all know the Matryoshka Dolls are going to be a new weapon in Ascension, but what do you thing they will do and how will they work? Me, I think they're just Russian versions of the Monkey Bomb at this point.

D4rkHeart780 19:17, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

It's name indicates that is a kind of toy, maybe you're right .-Diegox223 22:27, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

I think General Geers is right, it's probably a cluster bomb. 220.235.41.159 18:25, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

The Real Location
It actually takes place in a Abandend Soviet Cosmodrone. You play as Dempsey,Nikolai,Takeo,and Richtofen. There will also feature new weapons like the Gersch Device(Black Hole Bomb) and the Matyroshka dolls(Say What?) You also find new "zombies" called Space Monkeys, who steal your perks(Darn 'em). New perks are Stamin-Up and PhD Flopper. Any questions? (T.Blazingchamion)

yeah, you got that from IGN?.-Diegox223 22:25, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Russian Dolls
Due to the nature of the Russian Dolls (the dolls being inside each other) I believe it might be a cluster bomb. General Geers 11:57, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Map Info
Seems legit but we won't know for sure till the 2nd of Feb. General Geers 10:55, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Link 1: http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=5013&view=previous

Link 2: http://callofdutyzombies.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4593

Speculations and Info
I really think we should allow things that make sense. An educated guess is different from a pure speculation.

for example, the russian doll weapon is probably a cluster bomb because those dolls are stacked inside each other. But that can't be added because it's deemed a "speculation". Treyarch would not make a reskinned monkey bomb, it's stupid. We either use our brains and figure it out from what info we have or end up with nothing. General Geers 11:57, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

*Enter Rageguy*
I'm always on the lookout in this page, watching for speculation and whatnot - so to anyone who reads the talk page before they edit (At least I do that) IT IS IN A SOVIET COSMODROME. NOT Vorkuta, not Tunguska, NOT inside of goatse, IN A COSMODROME. Thank you for your time, Major Blackout  02:46, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Rumors?!!
Who ever put "This however is just speculations and rumors." is totaly wrong it has been confirmed on IGN.com for those who don't know who they are,they're a company who reviews games and previews other games and their content so I suggest it must be removedSLAYER 08:04, January 24, 2011 (UTC)

Ascension HD Picture
http://cdn2.callofduty.com/assets/codbo/images/dlc1_screenshots_ascension_large_1.jpg

We can see that the map is basing on the mp map launch.Even the rocket stays the same.We can see the location of the power switch too.We can see that the light shows up the location of the mystery box(just like in shi no numa n der riese - look up 2 see the light).

Nice find. General Geers 07:57, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Ascension trailer as of 25/1/2011
guys can we please edit the page in accordance with the new preview trailer put the new feature in (rocket platform) and mention the new zombies thanks.

This Is the Teaser Trailer, Ascension is at the end. General Geers 18:57, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

do you think it is possible that they escape this one in the rocket.

It's ''possible.... General Geers 19:30, January 25, 2011 (UTC)''

I WAS POSTING AN EASTER EGG FOUND BY ANIMATEDKOOKIE (overhead light board with random dots lit up, when decoded, means 115) BUT SUDDENLY THERE WAS A POSTING ERROR AND SOMEONE DELETED HALF THE PAGE!!

New outfits?
I was looking at the image of the Sickle, and it's very clear that the characters have new outfits.

Thoughts? Captain tweed 23:13, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

It appears Dempsey is wearing a spacesuit, or at least i think its Dempsey. General Geers 23:18, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

more than likely that its Richtofin 1-10 23:37, January 26, 2011 (UTC)

Gersch Device.
In the lower-right section of the current Ascension picture, there seems to be a weapon, could it be the Gersch Device? Or is some random piece of scrap metal? General Geers 04:49, January 27, 2011 (UTC)

Ascension Achivments
http://www.callofduty.com/intel/439

Achivments of Ascension:

The Eagle has Landers (35G) – In Ascension, escape on all three lunar landers.

They are going THROUGH! (35G) – In Ascension, kill at least 5 zombies with 1 Gersch device.

Space Race (45G) – In Ascension, Pack-a-Punch a weapon before round 8.

Chimp on the Barbie (35G) – In Ascension, kill a space monkey with a fire trap.