Talk:Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2/Archive 14

hey i dont really know or want to add stuff to the wiki but i found a list of all the singleplayer levels and all the achievements/ trophies for MW 2. i dont know if this is useful or not so just message me. preferably an admin so they dont take all the credit... havoc131

nevermind... i got a bad eye for things... lol havoc131

It's okay havoc, lol, :D Cpt. Carebear 4:23pm 27 Oct.

New Spec Ops mission
Check this out! http://g4tv.com/videos/42327/Exclusive_Modern_Warfare_2_SpecOps_AC130_Mission_Gameplay/. --DevilWarrior112 18:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Wow seems like this game is going to be the best since anything really..... I can't wait for it, and on a side note: DevilWarrior, MW2 will come out on the 10th of Nov. in Australia, can't wait! Cpt. Carebear 27 Oct.

OK. --DevilWarrior112 18:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

That map looked like the level hunted from the first game. did anyone else see that?

BRING THE RAIN! Chief z 12:20, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Man that level looks awesome. I love how you can actually see the guy in the AC-130. 12:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

It shows the SCAR using 30 round mags but it looks like the SCAR-H to me. Anyone else think so?(it might be a SCAR-L and I could be blind)Jewfrohero 21:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * I took my time and counted how many bullets it held, and it was 30. Edit: Proof of 30 (zoom in): http://i38.tinypic.com/fvelp2.jpg (note the red dots are to help me count) Ferrariguy1000 23:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

In the Flag Runner vid the SCAR-H has 20 round mags. The SCAR-L is the one with the 30 round mags. Jewfrohero 00:14, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Keep in mind it could have an extended magazine or it might just have a different mag size in SP/Spec Ops than MP. Imrlybord7 11:37, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Check out this link! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3c9FDF2Gqw

Third Person Confirmed
Don't know if this was added yet. I've been sick lately (feel like shit), so forgive me.

''Infinity Ward Community Manager Robert Bowling has confirmed the 3rd person perspective to Joystiq, saying "It's not something you can toggle on and off in ANY game. The special mode can only be played in private matches -- toggled on or off just like "Hardcore" settings -- or in playlists that are designated for third-person play," he said. "This is just another cool way to play the game, you obviously will still have the option to play gametypes normal as well." IGN followed up with Bowling confirming the accuracy of that report.'' - IGN

Here's the full article: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/103/1038859p1.html# Chief z 11:57, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Nice find man. I love playing 3rd person using that glitch in Nazi Zombies, although you can't kill anything lol. 15:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I didn't know you could go into 3rd person on zombies. I guess I'll go check that out. Chief z 09:44, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Playable Characters box (SPOILER)
I just looked on the playable character box and i saw on the MW2 section: Sgt. Gary "Roach" Sanderson and Unknown Ultranationalist??? Are you going to play as a Ultranationalist soldier and become a traitor and work with Task Force 141? But it could be the epilogue of MW2. It would be good though. It might not be true but it sounds good. Callofduty4, where did you get this source or are you just making this up? --DevilWarrior112 18:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Someone got the game early and leaked footage of the level "Team player", the level is the terrorist attack on the Russian airport. As for the unknown ultranationalist, he's only in one level, never part of TF 141. OmgHAX! 13:14, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I included him in that box. 15:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Stackable killstreaks
I picked this up with my sneaky eyes. I bet we've covered this before, but just in case. On the Afghan footage vid, once the guy uses a care package, a spinning UAV symbol appeared. This leads me to believe that killstreaks now stack. Thank the Lord. 15:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Good find. --DevilWarrior112 18:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, its been on the page, few archives back. good find, though a tad late. --Cpt Jack House 19:30, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

All 15 kill streaks revealed http://img297.imageshack.us/img297/7021/picture2gj.png

3 Kills - UAV 4 Kills - Care Package 5 Kills - Sentry Guns 5 Kills - Predator Missile 6 Kills - Precision Airstrike 7 Kills - Master Strike 7 Kills - Attack Helicopter 8 Kills - Emergency Airdrop 9 Kills - Pave Low 9 Kills - Stealth Bomber 11 Kills - Chopper Gunner 11 Kills - AC130 15 Kills - EMP 25 Kills - Tactical Nuke

This link confirms! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3c9FDF2Gqw

Airport Mission (SPOILER)
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/3626160/modern_wafare_2/ This is a sick mission. --DevilWarrior112 18:39, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The name of the mission his playing is Pas de russe, which is the French of No Russian, so Team Player isn't the real title of the mission in the Airport. Team Player is after S.S.D.D (labelled in French, Travail D'Equipe). The real name of the airport mission is problably No Russian, but its strange it isn't seen in the achivements. SMG097Hardcore

Renamed the section title. It's interesting having to play "the Other Side" for once. Good to see the layout is similar to Call of Duty 4. Although the thing on top says CIA Informant (?). Also the regular MP5 with a 203 Grenade Launcher is used in this level, should I add to the weapons list? FYI Makarov is in this level, shown speaking with the subtitles.

Edit: The playable character in this mission is a CIA Deep Cover Operative PhantBat 16:53, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Where is there an MP5 with 203? He uses an M4A1 with 203. 17:44, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yea how come he made the fotage so bad? And the mp videos dont even hsve sound

Yeah, you were right, checked the vid again, good eyes. PhantBat 18:37, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Deleted. Anyone got a link elsewhere? Is it better quality than frenchy's video footage? OmgHAX! 18:46, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I put one on the original Team Player page... MrJoe95 02:34, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

M249 SAW
During the beginning of leaked footage of the Airport Mission, when they begin shooting, I can hear the familiar buzzing sound of the SAW. It's unmissable if you know the sound. The link is above. It could be in-game. 17:20, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah I noticed that too, Also the Machine gun your using looks just like a SAW. PhantBat 17:23, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

The MG you use is the M240. Still, the M240 is a heavier MG than the M249, so the M249 might be in game. 17:27, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Makarov (MAJOR SPOILER)
I can swear he is in your squad in the Airport Mission. One of the guys is labeled "Makarov". P.S. Does anyone else find this mission unnecessarily gruesome and cold-blooded? =/ 17:27, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * It does say Makarov --Cpt Jack House 19:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Yep, especially since he shoots you at the end of the level! PhantBat 17:35, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Seriously? I didn't actually watch it until the end of the level. 17:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Shoots you point blank in the face, as you are about to escape! PhantBat 17:47, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

I think its completely necessary for expositing Makarov's new regime. You can't understand his evil until you look it in the face... or some crap like that XD. I know the younger kids will be thinking "w00t t3rr0rists ftw CS pwns all" OmgHAX! 18:45, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Im pretty sure you play as CIA in the level, someone under cover if you pay attention to the logos at the beginning of the level --Cpt Jack House 19:34, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmRi60EOMCY full vid --Cpt Jack House 20:29, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Go to the team player page, I got a video there, not from youtube. MrJoe95 23:28, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

removing
why are all of these videos of leaked gameplay beeing removed? and can someone make a video that will stay on you tube?

Copyrights, likely. The game hasn't been officially released yet, so understandably, IW/Activision probably arent too happy with these... I dont even think leak is the right term anymore... floods would be a better term. (PS: Sign your posts please) WouldYouKindly 20:26, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Theory on SPOILER
Hey everyone. Just felt like posting my theory on why the undercover agent is killing civies. It may seem like "You've watched too many movies" but think about it. What if the one way for the agent to appear as a terrorist was to, sadly, go along with Makarov's (Please correct my spelling at will) plan? But how the police know is what gets me. Maybe the C.I.A warned the Russians of the attack, and informed them about the agent? I dunno. Anyway, feel free to rip apart my theory as you see fit. StolenRequiem 20:57, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmmm, interesting theory. Ferrariguy1000 22:38, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever whatched 24 or some sort of fbi show? people have to do that stuff undercover all the time because if the C.I.A. agent didnt kill civies, it would look very susitous. And the cops didnt know about it because they tried to kill the C.I.A. agent. And somebody probably called the police

And think about the name... Team Player. MrJoe95 23:27, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

Furthermore, I think its a pretty crucial part of the story; as an undercover agent, do you go along with the attack? Let it happen? or maybe even try to kill makarov? IW might be trying to get us to make tough decisions for the sake of the narrative. OmgHAX! 01:05, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

The level isn't called Team Player. Its called No Russian

More leaked videos?
I was wondering. Do you people think that this french guy will make more videos? If he does, put the web addres for all of them here please. Im really wondering if he will make more and its hard to find them because almost all of them have been removed.


 * If he does show more linked vids, all I want is F2000 Gameplay LOL. And I don't want to act like a moderator or anything, but please sign your post. Ferrariguy1000 22:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)

My, my, Zimmer, what have you done?
Have you noticed that if you slow down the music in the Infamy trailer, It sounds very much like Pirates of the Caribbean music? This is where I noticed it (Second slow down): http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gt-pop-block-modern-warfare/57291 Let the conspiracy theories commence! And watch it all the way through... MrJoe95 23:40, October 27, 2009 (UTC)


 * Zimmer did compose music for the 2nd and 3rd Pirates of the Caribbean, could be just a reference to past works. Ferrariguy1000 00:56, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * Some of it reminded me of dark knight, actually xd OmgHAX! 01:03, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

GameStop/EB Games Midnight
Do any of you know if gamestop (or eb games if you live in Canada,) will be opening midnight to release the game, or will players have to wait until 8 or 10am when the stores open. 01:12, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Im not sure. I never get the game on the day it comes out beacuse it always ends uo sold out so I get it 1 or 2 days afterword. October 28, 2009

Not all of them, but probably most of them. My EB Games (I live in NJ, not Canada, btw) is doing a midnight launch, which I will be attending. Imrlybord7 05:08, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Locations, addresses, and phone numbers of all stores with midnight launches in US and US territories: http://www.gamestop.com/gs/content/MW2MidnightOpenings.pdf Couldn't find anything similiar on the Canada website. Chief z 09:56, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

All right, thanks guy's. Just wondering, do you think we should add some where in the article that some GameStop stores will be opening at midnight, maybe in the triva section... just a thought 22:57, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

New G4 videos
G4 put up a bunch of new vids. I haven't watched them all yet, but the lead MP designer interview pretty much confirms that you unlock actual in-game stuff (perks, killstreaks, etc.) by prestiging. http://g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/61715/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-2/articles/68845/Call-of-Duty-Modern-Warfare-2-Interview-Blowout/ Imrlybord7 05:11, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Some other stuff confirmed. EOTech will be exactly the same as the RDS (same reticule and everything), it just looks different on the outside (nice to see them implementing more appearance customization, although I think it looks too big on most guns and the CoD4 EOTech looked better). The AC-130 Spec Ops level is called Overwatch, and on Regular you only get 1/3 of the map, 2/3 on Hardened, and all of it on Veteran. Also, the Spec Ops interview shows the first first-person TAR-21 gameplay. Imrlybord7 05:43, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Now I have a real reason to Prestige, instead of getting a tiny little symbol. The CoD4 EOTech does look better than the other sights. Chief z 12:13, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

SCAR-H spotted again. I think this is going to be my favorite gun. EDIT: the Riot Sheild and its very sensuous melee hit is in the video video also. Dual Desert Eagles are at 6:17.

Second vid: Todd Alderman said that if you used the Noob Tube/Nub Tub, you will unlock a different attachment of that same style. I love how the IW execs pause between alot of words. (Bord, I know your a proof nazi. Ill post exactly what he said if you want me to.)

Thank god for streaming. I all tearey when he said "Hi res textures"

Video 4.1 and 4.2 (The trailer ones with Todd again.) Nothing new. AC-130 will drop flares.

Slowrider7 Slowrider7


 * I can only speculate what he meant by unlocking different attachments. Seems to suggest you can get a different model, i.e. an EOTech over a Trijicon RDS, a M320 over M203. etc. OmgHAX! 02:29, October 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * I was thinking that maybe using the M203 gets you the Masterkey, although the M320 idea might make more sense. Imrlybord7 02:46, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Skorpion?
If nobody has evidence of this, I'm removing it from the list. Imrlybord7 11:50, October 28, 2009 (UTC)


 * I think the guy speculated since the Modern Warfare: Mobilized had it. Even if Mobilized had it, it doesn't mean Modern Warfare 2 will. Ferrariguy1000 14:38, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Camouflage
In the leaked videos, there is a Perk 3 that was either called Camouflage or translates directly to Camouflage from French to English (I don't remember which). It is probably a ghillie suit. Looks like stealthy players (like myself) will have quite a few options. Imrlybord7 12:34, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

Nice find again, Bord. 13:04, October 28, 2009 (UTC)

clases
I know this is VERY off subject, but what is the most comon class you use in cod5? Im having trouble making a good class. THANKS!!!!!!!

I understand posting something here since it gets a lot of traffic, but you shouldn't really do that. Add a new section on my Talk page saying what kind of class you want, and I will be glad to help. Imrlybord7 02:11, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

Bling Pro Confirmed
An IW staff on the forums has confirmed that Bling Pro will be 2 attachments on secondary guns. --90.199.248.114 19:11, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

I was expecting this, but at least its definite now. Which leads me to the conclusion that if you got akimbo machine pistols, wouldn't that make an RDS attachment useless? OmgHAX! 19:32, October 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * You could still use something like extended mag/silencers, extended mag/full metal jacket (if FMJ is available for machine pistols anyway), etc, so yes RDS would be useless with akimbo, but I wouldn't say bling itself would be useless with akimbo. WouldYouKindly 19:41, October 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * I didn't say it would. Just the RDS would be useless OmgHAX! 21:45, October 29, 2009 (UTC)


 * PP-2000 + Suppressor + Extended Mags FTW. Imrlybord7 00:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

ESRB Rating
At the beginning of the Infamy trailer, when it shows the game rating by esrb, one of the points says "Drug References." Has anybody else noticed this and is this the first CoD game to have drug references. Also, should we add it to the article 00:30, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Pretty old. We speculate that it's because the Brazilian militia is probably doing some drug stuff. Imrlybord7 00:32, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

ok thanks, I was just curious 01:59, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Yeah its kind of ironic because the Brazillian police force just busted one of the biggest drug cartels ever like, a week ago. Slowrider7

More than likely the drug reference is soap smoking at the start of cliffhanger. OmgHAX! 14:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * No, Price smoked at the beginning of Crew Expendable. Imrlybord7 19:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Well, Painkiller has been rumored to be renamed "Morphine". Maybe that's the drug reference? WouldYouKindly 18:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * Also found this as an available title on the Callsigns page: Blunt Trauma (Marijuana leaves)  Now if THAT isn't a drug reference I dunno what is :P WouldYouKindly 05:56, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * You may be on to something there WYK... Yeah, I saw that on the Grenade Spamming Video (see lower for details). Also, I like your post time - 5:56.  I notice those kinds of things.  Not really relevant to anything, just thought I'd point that out. 05:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Haha, I must be getting tired because it took me a second to realize what you meant (probably because it's 2AM where I am). With that, I'm off to bed, see you tomorrow. WouldYouKindly 06:05, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

no russian
does makarov say "remember, no russian" in this level? if he does, could this mean that he is trying to appear as a foreigner in russia and possibly frame the job as being done by americans? this makes sense if he is trying to gain support for his cause (as in "look what america did they kill civilians come to my side")

Old old old old old. Imrlybord7 04:27, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

THats probably what happens. Good thinking_Lambsack111jr

sasha
how do you know the cia guy's name is sasha? did it say it in the video? Yea it did it said Sasha when the guy called him

Wow
Well guys, only 11 days left. Now I'm not trying to sound like a priest or anything, but look how far we've got. From this (earliest i could find) to this. Also we have 13 archives! 08:52, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I know eh, it's cool to compare that old version to this one 19:21, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

so, ... technical aspects?
There is no mention of minimum system specs here, nor that MW2 will NOT have dedicated servers for PC (unless they find some brains lying in the streets to use them I guess). -- 10:52, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

U.S.M.C Member confirmed
I not sure if you know but there is going to be a U.S Marine(s) in the task force so you should add it to Cod MW2 but its ur choice

Probably worth adding, and please sign your posts. MrJoe95 12:37, October 30, 2009

Not to be a proof nazi but is there a source? Jewfrohero 20:26, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I think it's Sgt Foley but we need a source! --DevilWarrior112 11:25, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Bad news for the guys down under
http://kotaku.com/5392963/modern-warfare-2-terrorist-footage-sparks-outrage-in-australia

bad luck guys. I hope they don't ban it. 16:38, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

One of two things is probably going to happen down there. 1: The airport mission will be cut entirely or changed into a short cutscene. 2: The game will be "refused classification" (A.G. Atkinson-speak for "banned"). I feel bad for our Aussie friends now. It'll be a national holiday when that Atkinson guy finally gets voted out of office. WouldYouKindly 18:18, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Why can't they just make the game "Adults only"? I mean, it would pretty much dissuade any parent from buying it for their kids. OmgHAX! 19:45, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


 * They tried introducing an "MA-18" rating (basically equivalent to our "AO" rating) to their system. But that guy Atkinson overturned it to "protect the children".  Basically he's a guy trying to look like he has a clue just to get votes. WouldYouKindly 19:48, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Didn't Australia also ban the unedited version of L4D2? MrJoe95 21:12, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I am so, pissed off. I think you now know that I live down under (Melbourne). Damn it, it happened to L4D2, now this?! I wish there was a way to acquire the game, without downloading it, as I think I would not be able to buy it off eBay. That really sucks. Attack Rhino 22:07, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Also, it is true that that Atkinson guy is the only reason that we do not have an R rating for games down here. If he was not the Attorney-General of South Australia, then everything would have been fine. Attack Rhino 22:09, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Christ, that sucks for you guys. All this anticipation and then BAM you can't play it. That's why I love the USA, although some of the more "politically correct" groups are taking a turn in that direction. I just hope it doesn't amount to this. Banning games for a mission that you don't even have to play. Disgusting. Well, I hope it doesn't get banned, and good luck with getting this guy out of office. 23:50, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

The article says MW2 "promotes terrorism." Wow, these people are deluded, misinformed, and ultra-biased. What's the difference between this and, say, something like "The Sum of All Fears"? I think what pissed me off the most was Atkinson saying violent games harm kids because I actually wrote a term paper on the effects of violent videogames. The only thing found was that it may cause a slight increase in aggression, but nothing that would turn them into serial killers. I feel sorry for you Austrailia guys; seems like you have your own Jack Thompson, but your own is in a real position of power. Hopefully this will work itself out. There's only one word to describe this, and SoLAXD hit it straight on: disgusting. Chief z 00:17, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

In the US there's that cold-hearted lawyer guy called Jack Thompson right? He obviously has no care for the companies who spend millions and huge amounts of time on games. Ha, that ain't a problem in the UK. I can only recall one game being banned for being too violent, Manhunt 2, but that was eventually released. Anyway, bad luck guys. I highly doubt they will ban a game that's worth so much/

Meh, JT isn't really relevant anymore. He got disbarred in Florida last year, and after the kinds of stuff he's done, he doesn't really have a snowball's chance in Hell of being able to practice law in any other states. FOX news doesn't even want anything to do with him anymore now that he's been disbarred. All he can really do at this point is send more harassing e-mails to the Take-Two guys (who he seems to have a vendetta against). WouldYouKindly 11:25, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Wow that sucks majorly, I'm gonna be pissed off if I can't play this game. Who honestly cares? Children aren't that stupid to think, "hey, this game is killing unarmed people, it must be okay then." WE ARE NOT THAT STUPID. Hell, my five year old cousin knows that terrorism is a bad thing, my ten year old cousin knows which sides are the Allies and which are the Axis. Jesus Effing Christ. All of this wait for nothing, man, if so....I'm moving to America over the holidays. It'd be fine it they gave it an MA15+ rating, but still, banning this for teenagers is like.....banning XXXX Gold for my uncle, impossibly crule and unusual. We need this game, dammit, Australia is kind of piss boring (in SE Queensland it is). I mean, if I get this worked up about it, and I'm a girl, then think how half my COD friends will be. Christ sake, give us the damn game and leve us in peace. Cpt. Carebear

Like really, I've already preordered the game (three copies, one for me and my two brothers) and I lose that money....I swear I will have a personal vendetta on that son of a female dog who said it should get banned. Damn, this would have never happened if Howard was still here (I don't know, Rudd seems a bit.....up tight). Ha, a laptop for every school kid in Australia, nice one Rudd, all I'll be doing on that is playing COD:MW2! Cpt. Carebear

Afghan Walkthrough & more confirmations
This (Spoilers) is a vid showing around the map Afghan. It confirms that the Ninja perk is immunity to heartbeat sensors. It also confirms a new death streak called Final Stand (which is probably like Last Stand), a new 2nd tier perk called Danger Close (which is like Sonic Boom), and a 3rd tier perk called SitRep, which has a description of "Insertions". It also shows the tactical knife stance. --90.199.248.114 21:30, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Nice find 22:30, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
 * And an IW staff has said that SitRep is like Bomb Squad, only "cooler", so I don't think it's just tactical insertion. And yes, I am roaming the net looking for things to confirm. --90.199.248.114 23:29, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

Full list of Multiplayer maps
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPp8SN2jWzk

I found this on the iW forums. It lists pretty much every map in the game, but probably leaves out the larger maps as was the situation on CoD4's split screen. There's also an option for Xbox Live unlocks. I think this also confirms custom classes for Split-screen.Bald Eagle Brennan 23:33, October 30, 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if Invasion in MW2 is gonna be the same as the planed call of duty 4 map Invasion?

AMAZING AMAZING AMAZING. Im looking forward to Estate, Terminal, and Invasion (from what I saw.) Also, does anyone think Estate look the the arched biulding from Crash? Slowrider7

I just checked this Wiki's page on Invasion, and it looks very similar to MW2's invasion. More than likely they put CoD4's Invasion in MW2. 90.215.117.115 00:51, October 31, 2009 (UTC) (Bald Eagle Brennan)

Fight Against Grenade Spam
just found a infinity ward vidoe, awsomez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxBdcdKVm2U m14ebr scope silencer ftw--Maj. Boner 01:22, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Note the WA2000 in the beginning. Ferrariguy1000 02:20, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

HAHA WIN! Good job Major. I swear to god those days when Im fighting a whole clan and they all throw random 'nades I wanna choke someone.

P.S: Atleast the scopes dont look like deformed baking tubes anymore. I think the WA2000 will be better than I though. Slowrider7

the gun in beginning look like a m21 or Mk. 14 Enhanced Battle Rifle,sorry if im wrong.nicolasm 03:05, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * The features look so much like the WA2000. It's ok though. :) Ferrariguy1000 03:11, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Hilarious, and so true. Anyone else notice the acronym? FAGS. 03:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

This video made my day. I support FAGS.

That was clearly an M14 EBR with wood finish. It had M14 iron sights and really didn't look like the WA2000. Imrlybord7 03:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Vehicle Box
I'm going to be working on the box for the vehicles in MW2. If somebody already did let me know. Otherwise any help would be appreciated (full list of vehicles, but I seem to have most of them) Chief z 07:32, October 31, 2009 (UTC) EDIT: The list is on my talk page. Chief z 11:09, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

New playable Character?
Check this vid out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-BEsyV9cGU Pvt. Allen? also npcs sgt foley and pvt hamed. --Ashwilson12 11:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Thats Julius from Saints Row. Wow, I love that guy. Slowrider7

Almost EVERYTHING from MW2
While looking around a site, I stumbled upon pictures of MW2. When I checked them out, it was the legit guns and perks in the game.

I don't know if the pictures can be used, though, because I didn't actually get the pictures, someone else did.

The link is here --> http://gamebattles.com/forums/t/2587685.html Should I just update the guns and perks? O T a iIi lL sS 13:26, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * so, that means no SCAR-L then? Ferrariguy1000 16:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Might be best to just update the guns and perks for now. We don't really need any more copyright issues like we had on the No Russian page. WouldYouKindly 13:29, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ok, will do, thanks =) O T a iIi lL sS 13:31, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Apparently, I can't change it. Someone else needs to do it, if they can. O T a iIi lL sS 13:37, October 31, 2009 (UTC)O T a iIi lL sS

Playable charachter: James Ramirez and more characters
I played the game and you play the Ranger campaign as a private called James Ramirez. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXb_AYGZlos that's my movie. You also have some characters like Doc but I will upload it later. Nikolai of CoD4 also returns! (Ever121 13:38, October 31, 2009 (UTC))

Can you show some more videos please????_lambsack111jr

I will add later(Ever121 14:17, October 31, 2009 (UTC))

Captain Price is returning

(Ever121 16:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC))

Happy Halloween!
Hey guys all this new stuff has just come right in time with Halloween, coincidence maybe?

I'm Calling Shenanigans on IW
This can't be the complete MP list of weapons. I mean, we KNOW stuff like the Mini-Uzi and SVD are in the game, it wouldn't make sense to not include them in MP. Either they're going to be unlocked with prestige (which, IMO, they could have picked cooler weapons as unlocks), or there's another level of unlocks we haven't seen yet. I'm thinking it might be the latter, since its the same number of guns from the demo and IW said that only showed up to lvl 27. It also seems strange they left out favorites and requested guns like the M40 and MP7.

What we need is some real confirmation: isn't the strategy guide coming out next week? OmgHAX! 15:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I know, It's like where is the SVD? There has to be more weapons than that, and the M82 is acquired much earlier? oh, on the other hand, I don't like the MP7 *shot* It's just the way how it looks. It's a good gun for performance though. Ferrariguy1000 16:11, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

My post above shows every gun except SMGs. It probably isn't finished, but it looked like they changed some stuff (M14->M21) I'm pretty sure its accurate, unless he's just really good at making up the screenshots. O T a iIi lL sS 15:23, October 31, 2009 (UTC)O T a iIi lL sS

I'm definitely going with you get more unlocks each Prestige. We will add everything from the lists, but we won't remove things that aren't there. Imrlybord7 15:36, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Definitely. Man, I have a reason to prestige now! Anything to get the SVD! 17:20, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Thoughts on Dead Silence
Although I believe that the lists we recently received are only partial due to the lack of that guy prestiging, I've been thinking about my favorite perk in the game (at least for my favorite game mode, SnD). I think that crouch walking with Lightweight might be the new Dead Silence. I dunno, just brainstorming. Thoughts? Imrlybord7 15:52, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Crouch walking without any special perks is basically the same as walking with dead silence anyway. 17:20, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

map deatails+game modes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPvYc5TqB8Q&feature=channel

map deatils and headquarters confimred

New stuff including all killstreak rewards
25 kills gets you a Tactical Nuke, which kills everyone and ends the game. Kind of stupid, but it will happen so rarely that it hardly matters. Chances are that anyone stupid enough to waste a killstreak slot on that isn't good enough to get it and anyone who is good enough to get it won't want to end the game when they are doing that well. http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=142386 Then we've got Fall camo, Mini Uzi is an SMG, M93 Raffica is a machine pistol, the DB shotgun is called the Ranger, and One Man Army (still don't know what it is) replaces secondary. http://www.justin.tv/clip/d65a8d1fd8eb1c6f Now, if you don't mind me venting, why didn't this jackass go through LMG and Machine Pistol attachments? Imrlybord7 16:25, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ha, that killstreak reward is in the game for balance, so just as you said, people will be stupid enough to use it. 17:11, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Just found a video of the sentry turret. Updating the page with info. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh7AtbvNq1k Imrlybord7 17:42, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

US Rangers playable soldier


A PVT. James Amandez? Anyone catch that? 17:11, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

No lol, James Ramirez. You got that from my movie @ yt eh? Well i've got the game and uploaded the movie. And look: http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p86/ever121/CoDMW2-JamesRamirez.png

(Ever121 17:13, October 31, 2009 (UTC))


 * what city does WOLVERINES! take place in? looks like somehwere in the east coast like Pennsylvania or something. Ferrariguy1000 17:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Its not @ the coast, but I don't know where it is cause I never have been in the USA XD. But no sea.(Ever121 17:59, October 31, 2009 (UTC))


 * when I mean east coast, I mean east side of the US. Ferrariguy1000 18:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

NICE ONE! So sorry. 17:20, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I think you like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wAw1EfwAY0

(Ever121 17:40, October 31, 2009 (UTC)) Vid is not processed as of 10:47 AM Pacific time. I can't wait to see though. Ferrariguy1000 17:48, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

M93r !?
It's not I don't believe you guys or anything, but is there confirmation of the 93r in the game? i see it in the machine pistols section of the article. Ferrariguy1000 17:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Maybe you should try looking through the talk page. Imrlybord7 18:06, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I know, I did, but it's hard to find the words "93r" in a maze of words. XD EDIT: After looking VERY hard, I finally found it. thanks anyway.Ferrariguy1000 18:12, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Protips: Using Ctrl + F makes finding things easy, and if you didn't know that, reading section titles and using process of elimination isn't particularly difficult either. Imrlybord7 18:28, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

IW forums found it here: http://i36.tinypic.com/2rcvia0.jpg OmgHAX! 18:16, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Story
Is the info on Shepherd's page real, or is it just vandalism? What's the source?--91.177.224.160 18:24, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Looks like complete bull to me. Ferrariguy1000 18:27, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * The Task Force 141 page states that Ghost and Roach are two of the four characters which have been confirmed to survive the events of the game. As the info on Shepherd's page contradicts that and there's no source, could someone remove it? I would, but it's protected, so I can't edit it. --91.177.224.160 19:10, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * I'll try my best. Ferrariguy1000 19:32, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

New Shotgun
Where is the ranger shotgun? JoeRamirez

Its the new name for the double barrel. May need a new article for it. OmgHAX! 18:32, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Killstreaks
Link confirms everything! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3c9FDF2Gqw

Source please? and IMO, the nuke killstreak (if its real) is just a STUPID idea. I can't believe IW would take that suggestion seriously. There is only so many sharks they can jump before it gets ridiculous. OmgHAX! 18:46, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

few articles up...... and i dont think there's anything wrong with the nuke..... --Cpt Jack House 18:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

yea, it's like, when did someone ever get to 20+ killstreak w/o glitches/cheats? Ferrariguy1000 18:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

well me and my brother both got 26 kill streaks before so its possible.Guthix&#39;s mage2 19:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I was fairly sure that 402 said kill streak were only going to 15. Nuke sounds like bullshit to me.

Nuke has been confirmed in multiple videos, so either get informed or STFU please. And I've gotten a 40 killstreak controlling spawns in Sabotage on Bog, although I only broke 25 one other time in my entire CoD4 career. Imrlybord7 19:41, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Nuke is real. Seems pretty awesome to me, but in a normal Team Deathmatch (which is the most player playlist) it is highly unlikely anyone will get something like that. Ever since I started playing CoD4 online (nearly 18 months ago) I have only ever seen it done 3 times, once by me (spawn killing with a sniper rifle FTW), another guy who was glitching till kingdom come, and a guy who was simply incredible (he actually got up to a 32 killstreak). So in a stock-standard TDM it's not going to happen. Sabotage is where it is most likely. 20:14, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

2 Sasha Articles?
I noticed that there are two articles for the same character, the Undercover CIA agent known as Sasha which article should we keep?

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Sasha_(Modern_Warfare_2)

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/CIA_Undercover_Operative_Sasha PhantBat 19:51, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Not sure, probably the one with a tad bit more information than the other. 19:54, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sasha is the man shooted by Makarov at the end of the Airport Massacre. He is probably undercover CIA agent. To above topic^^: Nuke is true. I saw video with it. It ENDS the match and kills everyone:P Morihaus 20:00, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I'm going to delete CIA Undercover Operative Sasha. It is the worst of the two. 20:16, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Do any of you think Sasha is the persons real name, or do you think it is just a fake name to get by with the russians. 20:31, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

It's probably his real name, thanks for the delete of the other article! PhantBat 20:57, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Archive
Do you want me to archive this page? Or wait until MW2 comes out? 21:01, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

I would archive it, it's amazing how long its gotten in just 4 days. 03:29, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Pvt. Allen?
Is it confirmed that the person is a character in game? PhantBat 21:15, October 31, 2009 (UTC)
 * Hes in the first training mission when you train the local militia as a US Ranger http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Joseph_Allen --Ashwilson12 21:36, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Check out the S.S.D.D. video. He is mentioned by Keith David's character. Jewfrohero 21:38, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: he is the one being trained Jewfrohero 21:41, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Last stand confirmed?
Last stand as tier 3 perk and final stand as a deathstreak, infinity ward fail... i cant believe they still have martyrdom and ls in the game.... http://i719.photobucket.com/albums/ww191/DancingDuckling/1042.jpg wow, thats a bit big. soz. --Ashwilson12 21:22, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

WTF MAN
Okay where the HELL did the stealth bomber chopper gunner and Tactical Nuke come from?! Along with those 3RD person modes?Death From Above 21:34, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * LURK MORE (Or just look above.) OmgHAX! 21:39, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * Why is it so difficult for people to just read through the talk page? These things have been discussed multiple times earlier. 21:44, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Ok dude no offence but I'd rather not read fourty something other messages. And I'd also rather not spoil EVERY possible detail about the game 10 days before release. Death From Above 21:55, October 31, 2009 (UTC)


 * You don't have to look at every topic, just read the titles and decide which ones might be relevant. Also, as Imrlybord suggested, you can use Ctrl+F in your browser to search for words on the webpage. That's what I do.  I know you don't want to see any major spoilers.  I don't want to either. But that doesn't mean you need to post a new topic for something that's already been discussed.  22:07, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Good point, I hadn't noticed it was already talked about, but considering that people are talking about levels and other things before the game comes out and YouTube has nothing where are people getting this crap?


 * People have their sources all over the place. A lot of leaked videos here and there.  If it's credible source we put it up, and spoilers are included.  That's why we made the spoiler warning, which we typically don't have but since the game's not out yet and there's going to be some HUGE surprises in the game we decided to use it.  I'm staying away from any story related sections because I've had my gaming, TV, and movie experience ruined by spoilers far too many times before.  22:29, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

All right well if they're going to just write about it and leave the rest of us in the dark why not post the video the got info from?


 * They generally do post their sources, and we don't accept it as credible if they don't. If unsourced info is added to the page it's generally brought up here, on the talk page. 22:38, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

All right. But still you have to admit telling people where they got it so others can confirm would make our lives easier.


 * Yes it would, and that is the way people are supposed do it. Unfortunately, people don't.  22:54, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Continuing my crusade of confirmations (minor spoiler)
Ninja Pro is Dead Silence. --90.199.248.114 22:28, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Endgame
someone has put that you chase and kill shepheard but i dont know if it is true or balls**t plus i saw what was said about shepheard betraying the task force and that it has been removed so it doesnt seem like that is the proper objective in endgame ?Whipsnap? 22:58, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

ALL Perks and Weapons... at least for the first run through.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nwKJdqO3IE&feature=player_embedded --Cpt Jack House 23:19, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and i have a guess... dont attack me or anything, but maybe One Man Army is Akimbo with any weapon? Gamebreaking, but maybe who knows... Pic of a flexing arm, gets rid of your secondary, unlocked later on... but who knows. --Cpt Jack House 23:21, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

Sounds more like overkill to me. Anyways, they BETTER have a huge number of weapon unlocked with prestige or else they haven't added a whole lot of variety to MP. OmgHAX! 23:29, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

weapons box
Hi there, I'm new lol. anyways does anyone think we should change the weapon box because there are still weapons like W1200 in there and things like Fall camo are not there. Just wondering thats all. --Ashdude01-- 23:33

No Russian (Good Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oez_23WdvTU&feature=player_embedded --Cpt Jack House 23:35, October 31, 2009 (UTC)

awsome dood, f2000 baby!--Maj. Boner 00:49, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Yea, that's the spirit F2000 fan. Sorry for going off topic there. :) Ferrariguy1000 04:41, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Whoa
Look at this one, And this one, And don't forget this one.   Maj.Gage   Talk . 00:35, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Okay I'm confused. The mini uzi is in the SMG class but it can still be dual wielded?? Why not put it in the machine pistol class and free up room for some new guns? OmgHAX! 00:58, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * If the Mini Uzi really is an SMG, than the dual wielding is probably a Campaign exclusive thing. Either that, or the videos posted earlier were very well-done fakes. I, personally, am leaning towards the latter possibility. (Javelin in Multiplayer? Seriously?)  Captain Baird  Comm-LinkService Record 01:04, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * I really, really hope its the latter. OmgHAX! 01:23, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mumt6z89_Wc Unfortunately, it looks like most or all SMGs can be dual wielded. That's so stupid. Oh well, hopefully most people would rather aim down the sights instead of getting double magazine size and double rate of fire. Imrlybord7 05:13, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Vandalism
Who keeps reverting edits about all this tactical nuke shit, honestly people, pics or it didnt happen. and why cant people believe that last stand is a confirmed perk? --Ashwilson12 00:56, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * LOOK ABOVE YOU FOR THE PROOF!!!!OmgHAX! 00:58, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * The vid has been taken down, but i believe it now. it sounds utterly retarded, especially if it ends the match... --Ashwilson12 01:01, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Not really, for two reasons. 1: When's the last time you saw someone get a 25 kill streak?  It's a waste of a killstreak perk slot unless you're glitching, hacking, or just ungodly good.  2: If someone on the other team manages to get a 25 kill streak, your team's probably going to lose anyway, it might as well be quick. WouldYouKindly 01:10, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Yeh, I got to agree with wouldyoukindly, I never seen anyone get a 25 kill streak in my 2 year online experience 03:24, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Scope!?
at 6:51 of this vid (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oez_23WdvTU), it says F2000 scope, will ARs have scopes now? Ferrariguy1000 01:19, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

They're the same as ACOGs, only now each weapon has a scope specific to its model. OmgHAX! 01:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

HOLY CRAP I JUST REMEMBERED SOMETHING
Ok so what we're seeing for MP are probably private/splitscreen matchs, right? 402 said private and online matches have different leveling MP suites. That means we just might be seeing only a partial list of whats really in MP ! OmgHAX! 01:42, November 1, 2009 (UTC)


 * Nice save there HAX. if there was rep, I'd give you infinite. Ferrariguy1000 04:39, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

That would definitely explain why the Barrett seems to be available from the start. WouldYouKindly 01:49, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

I think your on to something, some of the guns we have confirmed aren't even shown in the new vids-- 02:22, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

Vehicle box
Hey, I just completed version 1 of the vehicle box. So, what do you guys think? (looking for constructive criticism here) Chief z 03:56, November 1, 2009 (UTC)

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 * colspan="3" style="background: #9DB36B; color: #FFFFFF; font-weight: bold; text-align: center;" | Vehicles of Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
 * style="background: #9DB36B; font-weight: bold; padding: 10px 10px; text-align: center;" | TF 141/Rangers
 * colspan="2" style="background: #FFFFFF; padding: 0px 5px;" | AH-64 Apache · MQ-1 Predator · CH-46 Sea Knight · UH-60 Black Hawk · AC-130H Spectre · Humvee · RHIB · MH-53 Pave Low · Little Bird · M60A1 AVLB · F-15 Eagle · Wet Sub
 * style="background: #9DB36B; font-weight: bold; padding: 10px 10px; text-align: center;" | Ultranationalists/OpFor
 * colspan="2" style="background: #FFFFFF; padding: 0px 5px;" | T-72 · Mi-24 · MiG-29 · BTR-80 · Mi-8 · Snowmobile
 * style="background: #9DB36B; font-weight: bold; padding: 10px 10px; text-align: center;" | Unknown
 * colspan="2" style="background: #FFFFFF; padding: 0px 5px;" | Motorcycle
 * colspan="2" style="background: #FFFFFF; padding: 0px 5px;" | T-72 · Mi-24 · MiG-29 · BTR-80 · Mi-8 · Snowmobile
 * style="background: #9DB36B; font-weight: bold; padding: 10px 10px; text-align: center;" | Unknown
 * colspan="2" style="background: #FFFFFF; padding: 0px 5px;" | Motorcycle
 * colspan="2" style="background: #FFFFFF; padding: 0px 5px;" | Motorcycle