User talk:Crazy sam10/Archive 11

Blocking Me
You know, that's what an immature person would say. "You're being mean, I'm gonna block you." Whatever man. I need a break from the wiki anyway.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 16:10, April 2, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

Yes, but he said it in a better, more mature way then you did. It is not immature to say "retard", and you are being just as immature when you keep coming back and attcking me as well, you're being hypocritical. And also, you better show me proof that I didn't edit them, because it sure as heck let me, and it TOLD ME I edited it. Seriously dude, grow up, and start acting more mature.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 16:28, April 2, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

RE: PseudoParDéfaut‎
Yeah, no problem. I'll keep an eye on him as best I can, although I'm not too certain that anyone will be able to get through to him or change his behavior. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 18:20, April 4, 2016 (UTC)

Activision/Wikia Event
I just recieved a message from a staff member about a scavenger hunt where hints are placed in-game that lead to certain websites, ours included. We'd be the only non-Activision site invovled in the event, and the word scramble clue would likely be placed on the main page. I'm down for this, but I don't feel that the decision is mine to make alone. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 19:48, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * I'm down. KλT 20:08, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * I know I hold no power in the decision, but it may be worth asking if the fellow who left the message means the Black Ops 1, Black Ops 2, Zombies, or Black Ops 3 rendition of the map. He has the Black Ops 1 linked in the message, but it may still be worth asking. Other than that, I am completely up for it.SteveHeist (talk) 20:26, April 5, 2016 (UTC)
 * Well the staff member who left the message said it could also be on the mainpage, which is where I think it'd be a better fit. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 20:34, April 5, 2016 (UTC)

Is Rorke in call of duty ghosts extincition

If you own black ops 3 can you tell me where to find lev krachecko Easter egg please

Why did you take down my post?
Even WatchMojo.Com said it was somewhat a homage to Black Hawk Down! I thought it was nessecary considering it is TRIVIA!!! I also put a lot of time and effort into the post, because I had to find all the links, connect them, and you took down that post like it was nothing. That was my first post, because I just got this account and now I don't even really want to be a member anymore if it means someone can destroy my work like it was nothing!Derpcheeze (talk) 19:36, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

I reposted, but it's more accurate
Ok, so I reposted my Shock and Awe Trivia post, but I reworded it so it sounds more like only 2 elemnts of teh mission are references. You're welcome. Derpcheeze (talk) 19:53, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

I reposted, but it's more accurate this time
Derpcheeze (talk) 19:52, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Please look up homage
I'll give it to you on that one. I thought it was a synonym of reference. Still, they are very similar. The invasion in "Charlie Don't Surf," Pelayo's rescue (in the movie, the Delta Force operator took Durant's arm, put it around his neck, and lifted him out as he was screaming because of his broken leg, in Shock and Awe, Jackson takes Pelayo's arm, puts it around his neck, and lifts her up as she screams because of her broken leg) and things like that. Derpcheeze (talk) 21:16, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

Please don't delete my fact
Please, don't delete my fact again. I know, I could be wrong, that's why I said "... may be ..." but I am pretty sure they were at least inspired by Black Hawk Down or maybe they just watched it. As a fellow editor, I hope you can understand why I don't want my work deleted. If you don't delete my stuff, I won't delete your stuff. Don't deny that you're the one wh deleted it again. Okay? Derpcheeze (talk) 23:16, April 10, 2016 (UTC)

I Quit, You Win
Alright, I'm done. I'll stop trying to repost. In fact, I won't make anymore bad edits considering I'm going to stop editing at all, I'll just look. Bye! Derpcheeze (talk) 03:03, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

I Apologize
I apologize. You're right. Derpcheeze (talk) 03:18, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Just One Thing
I still apologize, but you have no right to say it reflects badly on me. You don't even know who I am! I'm brand new to this site, and I don't plan on becoming some big wig like an "Admin" or whatever. I'm doing this for fun, and others seem to be taking it way too seriously. It's fun to you to repeatedly scold some guy on the internet like you're their mom? Call Of Duty was meant for fun, dude. Chances are, you don't even play the campaigns. All anyone does anymore is play the multiplayer and try to do stupid trickshots to be MLG. I like the campaigns. So, like you said to me, just accept it. Derpcheeze (talk) 03:29, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Note to all:
Note to all: There seems to be some confusion. All of my recent messages were to Crazy sam10. Derpcheeze (talk) 03:43, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Okay, I'm done. I never said I was leaving, I just said I was going to stop editing. I'm done. You're right. I was rude and immature and I am sincerely sorry. I just wanted to stop the fight, and I couldn't think of any other way to get you guys to stop sending me messages and pointing out everything I was doing wrong. I couldn't stop. I'M SORRY! Derpcheeze (talk) 04:02, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

I Want To Personally Apologize
Hi, Crazy sam10. I just wanted to personally apologize to you, specifically. I was extremely rude to you and I feel very, very bad. I only sent that message regarding how everything I said was addressed to you because one of your friends thought that I was talking to them, so they sent me a very angry message back. Still, it wasn't right for me to do that. I am extremely sorry and I hope I didn't ruin your day. Bye!Derpcheeze (talk) 22:32, April 11, 2016 (UTC)

Can I help on a page?
Is there any pages I could help on? Any pages need spelling corrections or images? Derpcheeze (talk) 00:59, April 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Discussions
I'm sorry. I was trying to delete all the mean things I had said to you because I still felt and still feel bad about how rude I was. I was unaware that this was against the rules. I apologize.

Checkuser
Could you check if 86.67.72.142 is PseudoParDefaut? It's their first edit and it's about the same issues that Pseudo was recently blocked for. 16:29, April 16, 2016 (UTC)

Images
Hello Crazy sam10. I saw you deleted multiple of my images from the Black Ops 3 section in most of the Lethals and Tacticals(and got your message). I am ok with the fact that the naming thing was incorrect,however,the third reason is very unreasonable of you to say. Although I will admit,Magic Wand was mainly what I used to crop out background,It's more complex than how you made it seem. It's not like I hastily grabbed an image and used magic wand to crop out stuff. I had to screenshot my own pictures,which had to be timed,then I had to upload them and download to my computer,then I need to open all of them(2 for each Tactical/Lethal),Crop to reasonable size,then Use Magic Wand at several different Tolerances,Erase missed background,then had to experiment and find what image file accepted clear backgrounds. After that I had to make an account here,and figure out how to even add these photos,because this site's editing seems unefficiently explanatory on how to do things(Add to Gallery,Add Caption,etc.)Some edges yes,are jaggy,and can be fixed,but,what I have contributed is way more helpful than just a screengrab of whatever Lethal/Tactical it is in the Create a Class Menu. - Deluxe Cryptoss (talk) 10:56, April 21, 2016 (UTC)DeluxeCryptoss

Easter egg
So I'm just running through Ghosts again on veteran and I've found an easter egg that I can find no mention of in any forum and is not in the trivia for the mission. Unfortunately I can't edit the trivia for some reason and add it in, what should I do? RiverMan14 09:04, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

Sure thing, it's a weapons case underwater in the "Into The Deep" mission. It has the emblem for "Shadow Company" the group loyal to General Shepherd in MW2. It's the Rook chess piece with the words "Umbra Catervae" around it. I took a pic if you'd like to see.

It's more of a reference really, since Infinity Ward did the Modern Warfare series. RiverMan14 10:14, May 1, 2016 (UTC)

About my edits: Why ?
Why are you undoing all my changes ? They are useful source of information for the CoDgme serie. I would like to get an explanation at least.

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 15:21, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

Ok for the wrong namings, i haven't seen the risingstorm explanation before, sorry about that. But for the "non trivial"/"Not intersting" points, what rule of the wiki says that it is forbidden ?

"they're generally not of trivial nature" Ok, i want to post them here so that other players like me (who were looking for these images) can find them and see them easily. Where on the Wikia should i post it ?

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 17:03, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

"Personally, I do not think there is a high volume of people looking for these images"

So what you try to tell me is because of what you think i should not put the images where they belong (which is on map / level page with the rest of the related content) ?

And if i searched for these images, i can not be the only one wanting them, even if just 1 person in the universe is searching for it i believe it's worth posting it on a place where it is easy to find.

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 20:10, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

"The images are nothing more than bits of artwork that feature on the maps. They're nothing important"

OMG !!! What !?

So if that is your point, by analogy : if bit of art from MW2 isn't important, music of the game being a bit of art, it isn't important at all, let's not talk about it, OK, the MP maps of the game are just a bit of the game, then why even making these stupid pages about them, right ? I bet that the game itself is just a small part of your life, so you must be wondering why there is a wikia for it and so why you are admin of it ?

I still disagree with you but i will not make a discuss page about it, because i know that people won't care in the 3 minutes that will follow the creation of it, if someone is ever interested in that, probs are thin that he even find the discuss ora long time later, which makes it pointless.

That is less intersting for most of CoD players than the new skin for the BAL-27 of the new spaceship or idk what in the latest CoD games.

These images belong where i wanted to place them.

And if you don't like art, that is sad.

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 21:24, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

You call what i do somthing "not intersting" and "not important" and "Reductio ad absurdum", basically you call me a boring person ? And you say i insulted you but i haven't been rude, what you call "insulting you" is just me not being ok with what you say (and of course the fact that you don't allow me freedom of posting).

You having power on that wiki doesn't make everything you say true.

You can block me, but it won't be for a valid reason, i will not be rude or insult you. But i wish i could show you my disrespect for you here in such a way though...

Now excuse me i am going to stop reading your messages, the coccydynia is unbearable when i read them.

Thank you. Goodbye.

My edit to the Honey badger page
So. We meet again. This time, I edit the Honey Badger page giving a helpful comparison to the ARX-160. This time, you edit it saying "Unneeded Comparison". Why is it unneeded? Many people compare weapons to other ones, and it has happened before on other pages. If this is a unneeded comparsion, then you tell me why the AK-12, SCAR-L, CM901, and AK-47 all have similar comparison articles. Please put it back on the page, or else give my a reason why you allow similar comparisons on the pages I have listed above.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 17:18, May 9, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

Excuse me? The Honey Badger and ARX-160 share quite a few similar attributes, including iron sights, damage, rof, reload speed, integrated attachments, and that's about it. And some of the pages I listed above have EVEN LESS attributes than what I am talking about. I was putting together a useful comparison that some players may use, and tell me how it's hurting you that I make a comparison. Take a good look at the above mentioned pages. You will see they are quite similar to what I said. I also see you are having a dispute with Defcon Shark, and oh my, you are using bad language, you said bitching. Should I report you too? That is the same arguement that you used on me, except I said retard.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 23:37, May 9, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

Not responsible for image names
So you finally find something ? This isn't valid, i have not named images. It is impossible on talks. You can't block me for that motive.

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 14:11, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Ok...

What name would you give them if they were your images ?

Tell me and i'll add the suffix to every single one of them, then you'll tell me if it is ok for you.

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 14:11, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

And no answer like "You have to follow this rule to find the name yourself :" please.

"It can be seen at the top"

http://nsa38.casimages.com/img/2016/05/10/160510042759807899.jpg

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 14:16, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

http://nsa37.casimages.com/img/2016/05/10/160510043333476083.jpg

No special upload option here.

What if i don't want the images to be personal ?

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 14:24, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Maybe we can talk somewhere else
Okay, I am talking respectfully now, it's a little bit easier since your last message. First, I am not talking behind your back anymore, although you may think depending on your mindset that what I said to Twig may be mean, but I didn't mean it to be. I haven't been sending you messages because I don't want to get any angrier about this whole case, and I didn't want to have more arguements to reply to, there has to be something good in me doing that, I'm not ignoring you, just observing you with a gag in my mouth(not literally). I looked on the Honey Badger page and see no talk, so I am not talking there. I also can't find Drem, so I can't talk to him, or I can, but would rather choose not to, not cause even more bitter relationships with other users. I agree a abit about Defcon shark, and that is why i sent him a message saying i think it best not to talk to each-other anymore. Thank you for that, like I said, i don't wish to create more spiteful behaviour from myself toward other users. I don't have steam, and really only have email, which i don't think you would like to do. I must say though, that if you prefer, I will just talk to another admin about the Honey Badger edit, and not bother you with this anymore. I really don't know what else to say, so I'll talk to you later.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 14:20, May 10, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

Question on a forum
So, the trivia discussion forum has seen no action since January. I was considering moving it into a vote, but did not know if that was allowable considering I did not write the post initially (in fact, you did). Will you, or can I, or does it need to sit for longer? SteveHeist (talk) 14:51, May 11, 2016 (UTC)

oi m8
Happy b-day bro. 17:04, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

ur a cheeky lil bugga 19:26, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding Forum:Regarding the For template
hi sam, i wanted to get some clarification about the "Regarding the For template" forum from you since you brought it up. in it, you say about using the for template to only link to articles with similar names, articles with the same name but that are about a different item, or that are from different universes. does this include or exclude no longer using it to link to weapons that are variants of the weapon? some users thought it included using it for this reason still, while others think it excludes using it for this reason.

p.s., i know im late, but happy birthday anyhow. 05:04, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

ok, thanks for the clarification. i might make a forum later then if i have time, but unfortunately itll likely have to wait till next week or the week after if i dont get to it today. in the meantime we'll consider using the for template for variants fine. 18:00, May 15, 2016 (UTC)

Edit
You asked for a source for the values of how I made the edit to "Astronut Zombie (Behavior)"

The source comes from a video YouTuber Glitching Queen did. She went into the games coding to find health of zombie bosses. I based my edit from this video and did the calculations by that.

https://youtu.be/t7YmtT0r-c4 Is the video and Astronut Zombie coding is between 3:45 and 3:55

I hope you accept this as a viable source. Queen contributes well in the Zombie community and I firmly believe this information was nessesary to make the correction to the page.

TheManCalled D (talk) 17:06, May 15, 2016 (UTC) TheManCalled_D

She actually displays the coding in her video. So it isn't a case of "claim". To add to this, she had collaberated with follow YouTuber SliqKiller for the video.

TheManCalled D (talk) 22:55, May 15, 2016 (UTC)TheManCalled_D

I respectfully understand why you would feel uncomfortable using the data from the video. I would of hoped Glitching Queen's status as an established contributer to the CoD Zombie Community would of been a deciding factor but apparently was not the case. I will not push the issue further. Thank you, however, for listening how I came about the reasoning for attempting to make the edit.

TheManCalled D (talk) 04:06, May 16, 2016 (UTC) TheManCalled_D

RE:Schemae
Got it, I will add it to future pages. 18:24, June 10, 2016 (UTC)

RE:
Sorry, but I don't have a clue. Outside of the wiki's facebook page, I don't have access to any of the off wiki accounts. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 16:25, June 15, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Language
Alright! I will remember about this. Místico Kane

new article
Can you delete this article at your earliest convenience, please? It's been flying under the radar for longer than what it deserves. Didikins (talk) 15:58, July 1, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much. Didikins (talk) 16:57, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Apology
Hey Sam I apologized if you got mad, I shut down FouroSeven, and I renamed this account, I didn't like Big Brudda it sounded gay for somewhat reason. Big Brother1 (Text/Pevert) 10:28, July 2, 2016 (UTC)Big Brother1

July 2016
Hey Sam can you block this accont for 2 days? Another user is threating me to hack into my account. Can you block me to prevent him from destroying stuff? Thanks. Big Brudda(Text/Pevert) 16:52, July 10, 2016 (UTC)Big Brother1

Checkuser help
These accounts started shit up in chat, with one claiming the other was an impostor after the so-called "impostor" posted a hit-and-run message. Both accounts were made today, both of the accounts join/leave spammed somewhat, and one of the accounts kept editing the talk page of the other account, with the second account continually wiping the content the other was posting, before starting shit in special chat. As it stands, the latter account that I hyperlinked has been banned by Wikia network, and the other account has been chat banned for a day for the issue that him/her started in chat above. I was wondering if you could checkuser the two accounts to confirm any violation of COD:SOCK or if I was wrong to suspect shenanigans and that there was a true impostor. The former told me on my talkpage that he contacted the Wikia network to shut down the latter's account, which seemed to be the case.

As well, I can receive screenshots of the incident from chat if you so wish for them. Further evidence is on my talk page from the former account. Didikins (talk) 00:33, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * Disregard my demands. The situation has been taken care of by me and CoaZ. Didikins (talk) 04:11, July 13, 2016 (UTC)
 * My most sincere apologies, Sam. I have lost the ability to screenshot the conversation regarding C.Syde in chat that you may have been interested in viewing. I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may or will cause you. Didikins (talk) 14:38, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

'''My account was made on the 8th December 2013 thank you very much. That other account has been globally blocked for impersonating me. ―  C.Syde  ( talk &#124;  contribs ) 00:36, July 13, 2016 (UTC)'''

lol calm down gee,im taking the piss out of this page. i know how to edit btw

Mainpage Update
Hi Crazy sam10,

This is Nico from wikia's comdev team. I wanted to ask you if you or any other admins had planned on updating the wordmark or skin for the upcoming Call of Duty game for November. I can ask our design department to see if they could help out if you're interested at all.

Let me know and thanks for considering,

Knakveey (talk) 17:59, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Images
They were unused and sense the others were being used I decided to give them the torch. Sorry for any confusion. Also they were slightly different. 20:29, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Also the original images were taken from Counter Strike. 20:31, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for that, I should've thought about that before I carried out my actions. Also about the Counter Strike claims. Sorry about that too, I made a mistake and I don't play too much Counter Strike, so I should've taken a different course of action back there. Sorry for any trouble. 20:43, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

One last thing. I also should've done more research on the images that were uploaded, as I just found out they didn't meet our policies. I apologize. 20:50, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Regarding the problem with the MP5K Camouflages they're actually CSS Skins. Just look closely the hands are from CSS with an old 2010 reskin of the Ranger Hand texture. There is no rig in Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 that have that kind of hands. But hey if you're dumb I can't blame the universe for it.

Xanatos98 (talk) 23:43, July 30, 2016 (UTC) Cheers

oh look: http://css-pro.ru/_ld/73/7357.jpg

I wonder what is that.

"

Also the original images were taken from Counter Strike. Super GamerGhost 20:31, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

Apologies for that, I should've thought about that before I carried out my actions. Also about the Counter Strike claims. Sorry about that too, I made a mistake and I don't play too much Counter Strike, so I should've taken a different course of action back there. Sorry for any trouble. Super GamerGhost 20:43, July 29, 2016 (UTC)

"

What is that then ? also you should do more research and play more Call of Duty instead. But hey I'm out of the community. You just proved me a lot of things in this hours.

Xanatos98 (talk) 13:10, July 31, 2016 (UTC) Love you :'3

Wow you have issues. Banning me when you said you were just gonna ban the other account, liar.wtf is wrong with you? Your sadistic. Fucking cunt.

stormcaster of hurricanes

It's Been A Year. I Still Bring It Up.
COD:IAR is weird, do you know what I mean? It flings everything out the window to ensure the wiki to be better. Why is LG15's info the one that should be put, the one which goes through the door without questioning? How is mine the one stopping any improvements in the wiki? And if you ask, yes, I'm talking about Die Rise. Considering how little people go to the talk pages nowadays I rather bring it to someone. Whilst I can be doubted, the info should be doubted too. COD:IRL is as necessary in that situation as in mine. I know I sound like an idiot for bringing that discussion up, even after years, it just bugs me. Again, I understand why my info is doubted, but again, please, just remove the link to Jilin from the Province 22 line, it makes as much sense as mine. 23:00, August 9, 2016 (UTC)

Sorry if it sounded as a threat, that wasn't my intention. I was looking for a person who had any connection with the issue. I guess I was rather mad when saying it but just to be clear, I'm not mad at you. I could've gone to anyone and said the same thing. I'll just say this, sorry. I get mad easily and I can be dumb, if there's anything you want to do about my comment, you're free to do so.

Just a quick note or two
I get that you were tired and that Timeless's message to you was a bit aggressive and misdirected, but saying that he was attacking you was a bit of an overreaction, a little off base and a bit dickish, as was your edit summary when you removed the link.

Also, it's about time we close down the Overhauling Trivia forum, don't you think? It's been dead for several months now. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 06:42, August 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re:
Thanks for doing that, should of ran it by you first just to be sure. Capt. MillerTalk 09:43, August 23, 2016 (UTC)

RE: "Nice Work"
Yeah, I've been getting the notifications. They can be a little hard to spot, since they're a white block with grey text and blue hyperlinks that appears at the top of whatever page you're on. But the notification goes away as soon as you move to another page on the wiki. It seems like a good feature to me though, assuming the user notices. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 18:28, September 2, 2016 (UTC)

Cod4
hii sir,

i have cod4 mw full but its application is not opening and no icon is there on top of the application.

Infinite Warfare transparents
Hey, Sam. Less than a few weeks left until the IW beta, but still, I figured that I'd gift the wiki with some pics early. I know you're the transparency man, so I was wondering if you'd make some transparents from screenshots from a video showcasing the whole profiles of all the guns.

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVDxe5o4k8Q

Thanks so much. Louis Bancroft (talk) 03:13, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

Merging Airstrike
This thing has been up for a long time and it has a majority vote to accept it. Can you merge them? http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Airstrike

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty_Wiki:Articles_for_Deletion/Airstrike

Also, can we merge Helicopter (killstreak) with Attack Helicopter while we're at it. Reason: S.S.D.N (Same shit, different name)

03:13, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

Thank you :P

12:19, October 4, 2016 (UTC)

sorry to disrupt your activity, someone vandalize this page

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Call_of_Duty:_Advanced_Warfare

Hi, and what Call of Duty games do you play?
Hi sam! How are you? And what kind of Call of Duty games you play? Do you play them most of the time and the future Call of Duty games you have from the store? -- 01:01, October 12, 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh, so you're a councilor too? Good job for your promotion and welcome to Wikia Council, sam! -- 02:16, October 12, 2016 (UTC)

Template:Portals
Morning! Some of our staff noticed that the Portals template is now so wide that it is going under the ads on a number of pages (I've attached an image) for people with average resolutions (I, for instance, am on a MacBook). It also seems to go under the right column tables on the main page. Since the ads appear on top, it's not a Terms of Use violation, but obviously you might want to fix for your readers' sake. The issue simply seems to be that the images + pudding in each table row are simply making the table wider than initially intended - making a new row and moving some from the previous rows should do the trick. --DaNASCAT (help forum | blog) 12:17, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

What are your thoughts...
...on this edit? It's clearly a mick take but I don't know if it construes as vandalism or not. It's hardly a blockable offence but I'm unsure, what would you do? 18:27, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

I'm just saying here, but think of it like this: In the original Call of Duty 4, Griggs seemed to have been shot in what looked like the chest or the head as we saw, but we can deduce it may have been the head due to the partial brain matter (which may have been present). But then in Modern Warfare Remastered, they changed it deliberately so Griggs gets shot in the shoulder... But why change something that was so iconic and already established?

86.155.174.180 13:27, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, but all they needed to do (if it was a headshot) was emphasize it more through the graphical changes but instead they change it so he gets shot in the shoulder and it's been completely changed for some reason.

86.155.174.180 13:52, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

It could be a retcon for all we know.

86.155.174.180 14:54, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Uh... It isn't even confirmed who shot Griggs, it was off-screen. It could have been Zakhaev's henchman who would be carrying a weapon such as an AK-47 or M1911, which wouldn't kill him with one bullet.

86.155.174.180 16:03, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

pistol_shotgun_dw
pistol_shotgun stands for the Marshal 16, _dw stands for dual wield. In Zetsubou No Shima, the Marshal 16 is dual wielded. I guess anon changed it to represent Zombies more than Multiplayer. :P

Sorry about that, I guess I was up late and forgot to add it Yeebo (talk) 23:22, October 20, 2016 (UTC)

If you're talking about me editing the pages with the 'speculation', I was editing the Griggs page to show the change in Griggs' so-called death in the end of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfaee. It is a major change and I just felt the need to edit it!

86.175.205.107 20:17, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

So, I realize that it is just a theory but it doesn't really fall under the category of 'speculation', because I'm using actual evidence the player sees in the game.

86.175.205.107 20:25, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

It's not just the final stand on the Bridge: Look at the Newspaper Excerpt in Loose Ends, the one marked 'Makrov Vows Revenge in Taped Message' and take a look at the several points I made on CoaZ's talk page.

86.175.205.107 20:35, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Videos
Okay, but the reason I was uploading them was because if you go onto the page now, it's going to LAG like crazy. If they are in the gallery, it won't. 17:00, October 26, 2016 (UTC)

MW Remastered Campaign Question
So for Modern Warfare Remastered's campaign, are there going to be completely different pages for each of the campaign missions vs the original MW missions or will there just be another section added to the page? (If that doesn't make sense, I can rephrase that)

Specifically, I want to know about F.N.G, because there are several new things in the Remastered version that I would add into the page if that's the correct place to do it, but I'm not gonna add something into the incorrect spot.

HQDominator (talk) 16:16, October 27, 2016 (UTC)HQDominator

Chat search script
On MediaWiki:Chat.js/searchbar.js, the image that the script uses (http://bits.wikimedia.org/skins-1.19/vector/images/search-ltr.png?303-4) does not exist anymore. --Sophie 18:54, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Removed my image ?
Why did you remove my new infobox picture for the Anderson page? It's a much clearer shot of Anderson's face which is the whole point of infobox pictures, no? What's more it looks like you deleted the picture entirely from the files of this website. Either that or someone else did. Grasscid (talk) 18:27, November 5, 2016 (UTC)

Logo Prototype
You said to add disruption. So I did. 19:03, November 7, 2016 (UTC)

The Current Logo
Do you know why there's the red blob with a black dot next to our logo? Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 05:47, November 8, 2016 (UTC)

New Policy for Discussions
Time to get it shut. Looks like we have a clear consensus. 11:29, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Little help
There is a small mistake on my part with the Ace Skelter page. I was supposed to rename it as the R-7 Skelter but I forgot that I was editing the former on another tab. The other edits are in said page. Sorry about the mistake. Plt. Pao Ayo (talk) 12:59, November 10, 2016 (UTC)

Testing
Just seeing if the message notification has changed or not. 15:04, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Xbox Ahoy
Thanks for the heads up, I wasn't aware of the policies, my bad. I originally added them because kevtivx/LeftyGamer's attachment videos are now private, I thought, you know, replace them with another guide? Spur of the moment thing, sorry about that D: Yeebo (talk) 23:23, November 16, 2016 (UTC)

COD:IRL
Hi! Noticed you reverted my edit referencing the SF-10 on the Special Air Service/Modern Warfare page. The masks worn by the SAS in the Modern Warfare series are clearly modelled on the SF-10, and hence I was under the impression that this would be acceptable, as per the naming policy.

If you choose to stand by the decision, I'll object no further. SubarrowEvelyn (talk) 16:02, November 22, 2016 (UTC)

Then why are Infiite Warfare and Modern Warfare's Timelines considered part of the same Timeline? Also, if it was a simple 'Easter Egg' as you say it was, then why is it made such a big deal out of in the Campaign?

165.120.132.161 20:20, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, but isn't that like saying Black Ops 3 isn't at all connected to the rest of the Black Ops Quadrilogy (if you also count WaW) just because they only mention Raul Menendez and Niva6 once in the whole Campaign? Same incentives can be applied to Infinite Warfare: A very subtle hint at how the Story is connected, and the Retribution is that subtle message that sticks with you throughout the whole storyline.

165.120.132.161 20:27, November 23, 2016 (UTC)

SetDef/Kotch info
How/Where did you get them? :P

Also, did you see my latest edit on the IW timeline forum? I'd like to hear your opinion about it.

Kalinine (talk) 23:51, November 24, 2016 (UTC)

Bravooooo
15:26, December 2, 2016 (UTC)

SOrry about that. Im kinda new to this whole thing. I feel obligded to tell you though that all images i posted today were original and were taken straight from my Xbox. I will be sure to review the policies, but if you wouldnt mind giving me the sparknotes version, I would apprecate it.

Hey, used the policy link to upload an image. I think it would be a lot easier for both of us if I get your feedback on it, because Im not interested in creating a mess that both of us are going to have to clean up.

Top Right Icons
Okay, I have an idea. While I was reverting the top right icons NotLessOrEqual changed, I took interest in the CoD4 one he did. I was think we could use that for the MWR top right icon. Though, I can't make changes to the "Game" template cause it's lock. Can you do that for me please? 11:13, December 16, 2016 (UTC)

The reason why I did this is because I realise the top right icon contained non-official immagery. This wikia is to include screenshot and other content which is provided by official sources such as Activision, Treyarch etc. and no fan made material. The icons such as the original CoD 4 one, if you look down the history section of the image page, was originally crudely cut from the image art of the game cover and then modified by a fan. The images I used are from official game icons used for the PC versions of the games provided directly from the game's distributor.

This is what I'm talking about: http://imgur.com/a/i4nr2

I left Modern Warfare 2, 3, Black Ops 2 and suchlike alone as they correctly re-used the manufacturer's icon provided by the distributor, making them official immagery. Same goes for Ghosts and the Advanced Warfare emblem.

Roach, the CoD4 icon I provided is from the original non-remastered version of CoD4 on the PC. I am not sure wha the icon for the remastered version of the PC is since I haven't pirated the game yet, so I wont know until I get it.

(talk) 02:26, December 17, 2016 (UTC)

A Zakhaev Origins Game
Hey, so... I've been discussing a potential CoD 2019 Game with one of the other users called RoachTheIntelCollector and I just wanted to get your thoughts on it: Do you think it should be a game about Imran Zakhaev during the Soviet Union Era, perhaps during World War II? If you want to see more of the points I've made and leave your thoughts about it, you can check Roach's Talk Page.

109.156.139.143 11:42, December 23, 2016 (UTC)

RE: warning
Severe ban for what, an inline alert? How laughable. But anyway I won't judge your way of doing things since I know what it's like to be an admin on a big wiki myself. Maybe you should fix your chat bugs in the first place. — Ozank 13:24, December 27, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Video
They are so cute. Also. I notice you are not a Scoots any more. And I noticed you told me a while ago. But you're still Scoots so it's okay. 14:24, December 31, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Discussions and check user
We took and look and Sactage set some blocks, as you can see. At this time, the CheckUser-analogous tool we have for Discussions gives global results only, so only VSTF, staff and helpers have access. Please alert staff and VSTF as needed for similar issues! Thanks. -BertH (help forum | blog) 19:47, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Also, I can confirm that block reasons do show for users in the apps. -BertH (help forum | blog) 19:51, January 6, 2017 (UTC)

Re: First
See! There's a real picture of you. 16:09, January 16, 2017 (UTC)

Temporary wordmark
Hi Crazy sam10! I'm Mike with the Community Development Team at Fandom. We are wondering if Call of Duty Wiki would be open to the possibility of having a temporary wordmark for the weekend of Feb 10 to Feb 12. The wordmark will incorporate the branding of Mega Construx which produces official Call of Duty merchandise. Currently, this is only a possibility and we are trying to gauge interest. If you agree, the wordmark will be designed by Fandom, and you will get the chance to approve any design before it gets uploaded. Let me know what you think! - Cavalier One Talk
 * Ideally, by the end of the week if possible. Thanks! Cavalier One Talk
 * Hi Sam! I've updated the forum with the proposed wordmark mock-up. Let me know what you think! Cavalier One Talk 14:58, February 7, 2017 (UTC)

Hi Crazy sam10! Here's the updated logo for the wiki, per the chat at http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Mega_Construx_wordmark_between_Feb_10-12?t=20170207182408

Do you have time to update today? If not, I'll update it before I leave the office today. Thanks!



I need your help badly
So, someone had the guts to make an account with the same avatar and pretty much the same username as me and started to re-upload NotLessOrEqual's modded campaign gameplay. I'm thinking it's either NotLessOrEqual or this guy. Can you please help me sort this out? 13:05, February 10th, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. It gets old, having to fix all those videos. 13:16, February 10th, 2017 (UTC)

Re:
Thank you, I'll take the appropriate actions. -- 22:58, February 11, 2017 (UTC)

Other wiki discussion
Look I get that other wiki discussion is not allowed but I don't have a single contact detail for the guy and only needed him to acknowledge the message once before you deleted it.  Toon Ganondorf    (t    c)  20:31, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm in agreement with Toon, it's not needed to always go for "no off-wiki allowed". In events like harassment or begging for block removal fair enough, but in a reasonable case like this I'm pretty sure it was fine. 21:21, February 14, 2017 (UTC)
 * Nothing stopping you from asking for contact details on your own wiki. Also just because the message was not malicious doesn't make it exempt from the no off-wiki rule. I check all edits by users I don't know, I don't need to waste extra time by having to check a discussion between 2 users that won't even benefit this wiki. 22:10, February 14, 2017 (UTC)

hi how r u ples

New Call of Duty Game (2017)
Hey mate. You've warned me about the talk page on Kahn's talk page. I understand, you got the bad news about that Bill Paxton. The New Call of Duty game (2017) is unknown this time, i wounder if the new game is called Call of Duty Advanced Warfare 2. It's just a idea my friend. New Exo Zombies and new characters anyway, i just say that. Sorry again, about the Kahn's talk page. Thanks for warned me again!

Marec2 (talk) 20:42, February 26, 2017 (UTC)

Can you help explain some things
So, there's this guy here that's saying all of MWR is taking place in an alternate timeline in which Price kills Makarov during One Shot, One Kill. Apparently, he doesn't get the concept of a small easter egg that's no to be considered canon. He also claims that because Makarov looks like Yuri in, it's Yuri. So, can you explain some things to him? 9:15, March 30th, 2017 (UTC)

Inactivity
While you're at it, these two users also need to have their rights removed. 17:41, March 30, 2017 (UTC)
 * we don't remove people's rights for inactivity. KλT 00:58, April 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Not that I necessarily agree with such a demotion process either, but this was the topic in question, regarding custodians only. 10:47, April 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Wonderful, I see we're just making up rules now. No consensus. Sick. KλT 18:46, April 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems more like an issue with this "inactivity" note that was very old, and on which we should have done a cleanup. I mean, inactive custodians have been retaining their rights for years, and were only demoted now. So yeah, I do believe that this should have been settled in the war room or something before removing the rights. Maybe we can fix this now and set up a forum? 19:00, April 6, 2017 (UTC)
 * I feel like that should've been done originally, but better now than never I suppose. I don't feel comfortable removing legacy users' rights because people tend to pop in every now and again. KλT 20:28, April 6, 2017 (UTC)

RE:Extended mags
What I actually did is remove the reserve ammo values, as the attachment always increases maximum ammunition since MW3 by having the same number of magazines in reserve. But now that you mention it, I noticed that some pages didn't have the extended mag value in the magazine size parameter, so I'm gonna fix them. 16:18, April 8, 2017 (UTC)

You've passed your archive size
Just feel like shitposting  19:56, April 9, 2017 (UTC)

Navigation Bar
Hey Sam can i have a copy of the new navigigation bar used here on the Cod Wiki. I really like the modern design compared to the current Wiki default and would like to implent something like it on the BF Wiki. -- 09:33, April 22, 2017 (UTC)


 * Great thanks. -- 19:47, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

WWII Top Right
Hey Sam, I decided to go out and find a top right icon for CoD: WWII. It can be used as a placeholder until we get an official one. If you want to use it, just message me back and I'll upload it to the images. Then, can you edit the template since it's locked? 3:32, April 26, 2017 (UTC)

Moving forward with Discussions
Hey Sam,

With regard to the conversation in progress here, I would like to present a plan to you.

Discussions will not be a success if it’s left alone, ignored and not moderated. I understand that most of the admins and editors here don’t feel moved to take the time to moderate, be involved and foster a higher quality of conversation there. You need to first see that there can be some results, that it’s worth the tine. But it’s a bit “chicken and egg” — it won’t start to provide value unless someone puts in some time. After Discussions was activated I had some conversations with Kat and I had the impression that he saw the potential for community growth and would be taking some steps, but I imagine real life got in the way.

I am working with a couple of users who are enthusiastic about Discussions and have helped get things going well on other communities. I would like to have them come in to moderate and create a better culture there. This would be for about 2-3 months, and ideally after that we’ll have identified some people from Discussions who are interested in being part of the wiki community as well, and can take over as mods.

These two users are Speedit and TheOriginalDoctor, and they have the full confidence of Fandom in taking on these roles. They would become members of the Discussions Moderator group here, which is currently not being used. Technically this would also give them some moderation options on blog comments, but that’s not an area where they would be doing any moderation.

I would also like to assign the “block” permission to that user group so that they can quickly deal with problem users in Discussions, without having to contact an admin to set the block. They both have good instincts and I am certain they will follow all guidelines with regard to setting blocks. In the unlikely event that an admin disagreed with a specific block, they would of course defer to the admin. This permission adjustment is optional, pending the approval of you and other admins, but if you’re not going to be involved with Discussions right now I think it’s the best option. If other users are going to be added to the Discussions Moderator group in the future, we can remove the block permission from the group.

Let me know what you think. I’m happy to present this idea on the forum conversation if you like, but it seemed best to reach out this way first. With WWII coming later this year and the ongoing talk of movies, there’s still great potential for community growth and getting new editors on board via Discussions and the app. It just takes a little effort, and we’d really like to prove to you that it’s possible. Let me know what you think. -BertH (help forum | blog) 17:03, May 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the response. We'll probably see about making some posts and replies in the meantime. Moderation isn't just about answering questions and enforcing the rules, it's about building and reinforcing a culture. And it does take sustained work. One example -- it really seems like this person could have taken a stab at editing, with a little more guidance. Not saying it's only you that could have done more, my colleague could have as well. Other communities have found success in making the wiki be the focus of the Discussions area. Posting links to articles, talking about subject areas where more wiki content growth is needed. To-do lists, etc. And following up. That's the kind of sustained effort I am proposing, which has not really been tried yet. I think I am the Falcon's reply here is accurate, that with this style of game there's not always much "meta" stuff to discuss, and you can just end up with lots of "looking for players" posts. So shifting the focus to be about the wiki and its content can have bring some benefit. It's a way to hear from engaged readers. Getting tangible feedback about the wiki content, and making it a place for potential editors to connect with the community and get started. As much as we wish it was different, posting on an article talk page or wiki-style forum is intimidating if it's your first edit. To get that next generation of editors on board, we have to meet them halfway, in places where they're more comfortable. -BertH (help forum | blog) 19:27, May 19, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hey Sam, I have added a comment on the Forum. -BertH (help forum | blog) 07:20, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

World at War Upgraded Weapons images from 2011
I can't believe that your images for some of the Upgraded Weapons haven't been replaced until now.

No seriously, how?

Yeebo (talk) 08:01, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

I'm more than happy to replace old images. I was just suprised that they were still being used.

Yeebo (talk) 13:03, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Regarding a recent user
Hi Sam. I must say, I was a little puzzled at the harsh tone of your responses to Christopher, as well as your statements in your message to me. You’re not ready to read someone’s general suggestions regarding Discussions, because you’re in the midst of having a conversation about that very same thing?

I did not ask Christopher to do anything, he decided to do that of his own free will. He is part of a group of users who are enthusiastic about Discussions, and it was there that I was discussing this community’s situation with Speedit and TheOriginalDoctor. He took it upon himself to make suggestions. He was just trying to have a conversation. Putting a big wall of text on a "proper" forum conversation when you’re not even a member of the community is intimidating. That’s the same reason I first reached out on your talk page rather than posting there. And when Christopher gets open hostility as a reply, I can’t say I blame him for not stepping into the forum for more of that. It’s nice to see your fellow admin setting such a great example and following the policy you mentioned. So shocking that new people are not sticking around.

Perhaps the statement (and I’ll quote it fully here, for the benefit of anyone else reading this) “The wiki will die unless people open themselves up to different methods and techniques” is slightly melodramatic. But the sentiment is the same as what I said in the forum — if you want this community to grow in the future, you will need to change how you do things and have an open mind about new tools that become available.

There won’t be any changes to wiki-style forums. Christopher misspoke, due to the fact that there’s anxiety on other communities about the eventual retirement of the Special:Forum feature and he talks with other users about that. -BertH (help forum | blog) 07:25, May 24, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Forum outcome
Hi Sam,

We will be moving forward with the plan I outlined, to have some enthusiastic users help out in Discussions and create a culture there to foster more interest in the wiki and editing. It's my hope and belief that we can get it to a place where there will be a clear benefit to the wiki, by generating actionable feedback about the wiki content and motivating users to start editing. Such a sustained effort has not yet taken place. By saying that, I am not suggesting that you (or any community member) should have been doing anything different. Indeed, I absolutely acknowledge that you made plenty of effort early on. And I also acknowledge that I promised we'd look after things and didn't properly follow through on that.

Some clearly feel that the only proper recompense from Fandom is to disable the feature, and voted accordingly. Others voted to disable it but their reasoning boiled down to basically "meh, who cares?" Hyperbolic "trainwreck" comments aside, it's clear most people really just don't see any benefit, which is understandable. It's not a hot mess, but it's not been very impressive either. I believe the best option is to put in the effort to really try and make some benefits materialize.

I don't ask for enthusiasm or support from those who voted against keeping Discussions active, just acceptance. And if possible, open minds. If a specific person does not wish to participate in Discussions, there is nothing that is compelling them to do so. It's easy enough to simply ignore it and go about normal business.

However, other users (like Joe Copp) who do see some potential may wish to contribute. Having members of the editing community involved can only help the benefit materialize faster. It would be very unfortunate if such people were ostracized for wanting to be involved. So my only request to you is that you keep that from happening.

You've made several mentions of seeing staff comments that Discussions can be disabled in extreme circumstances. This is true, but such a situation has yet to come up. We'd need to see that the presence of Discussions was somehow disrupting normal operations on the entire community, and then determine that disabling it really is the best (and possibly only) solution. That is not the situation here.

It remains a personal regret of mine that we were not able to present the potential benefits of Discussions to the community properly last year, with a good amount of lead time, conversation and preparation before it was enabled. Setting off on the wrong foot never makes things easier.

I am happy to discuss things in more detail, such as further unpacking my "fear of change" comments and my related observations, since I fear those came off wrong. They were not meant as insults in the slightest. But that's drifting from the purpose of this response. Let me know if you want to talk more about that or anything else. But on the question of disabling Discussions, there is not anything further to talk about. Thank you for your clear and civil conversation over the past few days. -BertH (help forum | blog) 19:39, May 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Sam. Put simply, the Fandom platform is continually evolving and the addition of some features is not subject to community consensus. That is the case here. It was always the case. I regret not having more time to talk with the community last year to get ready for the enablement of Discussions. But there was no question of whether or not it would be enabled at that time, just as there was no question of whether or not it would be disabled now.


 * Discussions is gradually being rolled out across the platform. We are developing new features and tools and some of them, like Discussions, the Community App and the Community Page are focused on community growth. These features are here, and only need a few interested people to make use of them so the community can begin to derive benefit.


 * You said "If they had been a complete outturn of support coming from the Discussions app, then I would of happily agreed to keep the app. But that did not happen." This is where my comment from the forum is really relevant: "if you want this community to grow in the future, you will need to change how you do things and have an open mind about new tools that become available." The users in the app are a different type of user, and require a different type of approach if your desire to involve them is real. Their awareness of wiki community varies greatly (as you saw from the post you made earlier today). And the one user (I am the Falcon) who did comment actually agreed that they should be disabled. But you told him that he could only give input on the forum. He replied "I'll try to use the right forums. It's just inconvenient that's all." And he didn't post anything. You know why? Because it is inconvenient for a new person, who's never edited a wiki page and is using their phone.


 * And where exactly in COD:CON does it say that only input on the wiki-style forum thread is to be considered valid? You told Christopher "If you want to make your point, it has to go on that linked forum. If it doesn't, it doesn't get considered in the vote." But where is that policy? If you were really making an genuine effort to reach out to the users there and get their input, you would have done more than just post links to he forum without any context. Even a few sentences of context would have been much more clear. For example "Some people are voting on whether or not to disable the feature that you are using to read this very message. If you would like to keep this feature then..." And, since it's not forbidden by any policy, you could have had TWO places for people to vote and give feedback. The forum and the post. And cross-linked them prominently.


 * THAT is what I mean by changing the way you do things if you want the community to grow. It would not have even been in violation of any current policy. It just means waking up and realizing that there are not any more people who are going to show up pre-loaded with knowledge of wikitext editing, sitting at their desktop computer, and ready to operate at the same level as most of you. Things like indenting with colons and signing your name with four tildes are super weird and not intuitive. And even this conversation is split across two different URLs. Someone has to have two separate web pages open to read over the entirety of this conversation we are having right now. How is that supposed to make sense to a new person? These conventions that everyone takes for granted are simply not welcoming to new people. It is a fact.


 * So we are going to move forward with the plan I outlined, and hopefully be delivering some feedback about the wiki content to the editing community. And maybe even delivering some excited novice editors ready to help out. This is about growing the community and improving the content. Not about capitalizing on something or abusing power. Like I said, we are all working toward the same goals here. I encourage you and anyone else reading this to move past being frustrated about not being asked, or about having long-followed conventions criticized. If you really do want to revitalize this community, be bold and try some new things. -BertH (help forum | blog) 20:55, May 25, 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi Sam, you can send a message via Special:Contact and request that it go to Jen Burton, Vice President of Community, who is my manager. -BertH (help forum | blog) 21:47, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

Off on the wrong foot
I feel that we got off to a poor start, primarily because of misunderstandings due to my use of specific words and or idioms. For the record, I don't use subversive and/or passive aggressive tactics. I'm generally very direct and mean what I say without implying something extra.

I have no doubt that you encounter plenty of the opposite. I know I do. So I understand why you interpreted my words as such. I hold myself responsible and appoligize.

I never posted on your forums, nor did I vote because I didn't feel that it was my place to do so.

The reactions that I witnessed, especially from YellowWhatsHisName, made me step back. The last thing I wanted to get involved in was a flame war.

All I wanted to do was engage. To better understand your situation and to offer my advice and experiences so that MAYBE a solution could be found for your predicament.

I'm not about to force anything on you, including my perspectives or words. If you want to engage in a discussion, I will do so. But if you are not interested, no hard feelings. I wish you the best. ChristopherLeeGallant (talk) 22:18, May 25, 2017 (UTC)