Forum:Remove all the tips/tactics sections

Since many users (including me) don't like having tips or tactics on mainspace articles, as it makes the wiki look less professional and more like a tip site, I think we should remove them from every article.

While they may be valuable (for example, how to beat Heart of the Reich on Veteran, how to kill George Romero etc.), I still follow these two quotes:

"Guides are, by in large, opinionated. We are an encyclopaedia on Call of Duty, not GameFAQs."

- User:Eltomo85

"We're a wiki, not a tip site."

- User:Conqueror of all Zombies

They also are very largely written in second person (thus violating COD:IY, which is a policy and should be followed) and are opinionated.

So, I think we should go through every article we see to clear out the tips, tactics, hints and whatever relates to them. I may repeat myself, but they make the page look bad. 21:12, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

As has been mentioned before, we are an encyclopedia on Call of Duty. An encyclopedia contains credible information, which tips are not. What may work for one person may not for another. While they are occasionally useful, the vast majority of "tips" are badly written, in second person, and in some cases blatantly wrong. I say we cut out the "tips" from articles because of this. 21:26, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

I second this motion, as tips are a pain in the arse to deal with. Users are always adding some pointless tips into these sections, and I believe we should cut them out full stop. However I'm not ruling out the chance that we could have heavily regulated tip sections, which could work. 21:30, July 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with the "heavily regulated tips", they could work since they're pretty much not opinionated, but they're a bit risky, since there's not a clear line between them and "normal" tips. 21:57, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

I have been removing all tips/tactics on pages when I come across them. While doing so, I have read some of them. There are many highly opinonated, poorly writen and many have horrible grammer. Removing them may make many pages smaller, but doing so makes the wiki look a lot cleaner and more organized. I 100% agree with this motion. CoaZ Talk  02:09, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Poor writing can be improved and bad grammar can be fixed. It's okay to remove these sections on the basis of their opinionated nature, but not because they're badly written. --Scottie theNerd 10:04, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Per AdvancedRookie, they can be a pain in the backside to deal with. Then answer me this: If the tips and tricks section goes, then will the Zombie stategy articles go? Because they are more-or-less tips and tricks. If people come for tips, they should go to NextGenTatics or some gaming forum, NOT to an encyclopaedia. I said this is a previous forum, I'll say it again. We are a Call of Duty ENCYCLOPAEDIA, NOT a Call of Duty Gaming tips forum. Reznov115 Talk  14:41, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * The Zombie strategy articles have been gone for quite a while now Reznov. Ireland_flag.gif  CoaZ Talk Ireland_flag.gif  17:33, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Per all. I thought tactics/tips were in the COD:NOT policy?.-14:59, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, the closest to it I can see there is the "general gaming news site" which isn't the same. It's not forbidden to add tips (yet), so people exploit it. 15:07, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Would this also cover walkthroughs for levels and such or just stuff like "make sure the claymore is not facing the wall" stuff? I've been removing tips/tactics since when they're left alone things get repeated and it turns into a mini walkthrough section all its own. Carbonite 0 23:53, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * In the walkthrough sections I've met recently, I've tried to remove the "Now take the Barrett and camp in this spot" things. The rest should and must stay, otherwise we would have information about, for example Loose Ends, but not what happens in the level. This is a good example of what should be removed and what not (I think). 00:59, July 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've raised the issue of articles vs walkthroughs many times in the past with no contribution from the community. The current problem, especially, is that the newer games are written in article format whereas older games are written as walkthroughs, completely with image references. --Scottie theNerd 07:16, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * As long as tips and tactics are completely gone, I'm happy. They make the wiki look very biased, opinonated and unprofessional. Ireland_flag.gif  CoaZ Talk Ireland_flag.gif  23:30, July 21, 2011 (UTC)
 * Per CoaZ. 00:02, July 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * I agree with CoaZ, instead we could provide links to sites that provide tips and tactics e.g. ngt, or, maybe, someone could create a new site for tips and tactics and have it managed by this wiki. Also, i think that a majority of pages have bad grammar and spelling, we could somehow introduce a spell check feature. Anyway, i'll leave it upto people that know how to manage things. IamAwawGOD 14:55, July 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Bots can deal with the spelling, but links to tips sites are a big no. Users could add links to promote their site, and unless the site was credible (Gamespot, GameFAQs, etc) they could host anything other than tips.  15:02, July 25, 2011 (UTC)

I personally condone removing all info/tactics sections and leaving no links to outside sites regarding said tips. Shotrocket6 01:40, July 26, 2011 (UTC)

I feel that we should keep them there useful and weve become more than a encyclopedia were a community we should be able to share tricks to improve others 14:02, July 27, 2011 (UTC)

Voting
Simply vote on whether you think the tips/tactics should be removed or not.

Support

 * 1) Opinionated, biased and make the rest look unprofessional. Nuff said.  10:35, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Per MLG. Nuff said. 10:50, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Shotrocket6 18:31, July 28, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) I can't really decide just yet, but I think it'll be a good idea.  14:24, July 28, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) There are definitely general tips that we can issue to our readers. Not every tip is opinionated.  16:27, July 28, 2011 (UTC)