Forum:Message Wall

Seeing as it is inevitable we are going to have to use the new Message Wall feature (How ever much we try to stop it), I don't see why we should enable it early and try to get used to it. Let me know what you think. 18:57, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Discussion
I fucking hate the fact that we HAVE to make this change, but I would like to enjoy the old fashion talk page as long as we can. 18:58, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * ^ 1358  (Talk)  18:58, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, this had the new editing version first (The current one) so that prepared me for the update when it hit Vault, I'm all for getting used to it early (Stop editing when I do D:<). - Crazy Sam10 Talk Poll[[File:ShadowAttackSmallAni.gif]] 18:59, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Per Squirtle. And Sam, I know the feel about the edit conflict. 19:00, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Y'all should just copy your text like I do. Then, if you get into an edit conflict, you just have to paste it instead of typing it all out again. Sgt. S.S. 20:47, October 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not saying I like it, but I'm saying we should get used to a change that will become inevitable. Maybe we will like it and praise wikia. wat 19:06, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * How do you know it's inevitable? Did they confirm that they're not gonna make it optional (which would be the first thing they could do before anything else)? 19:08, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Per N7, we should get this over and done with on our terms, rather than coming on one day and it's changed/date's been set. - Crazy Sam10 Talk Poll[[File:ShadowAttackSmallAni.gif]] 19:09, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * @MLG: They haven't said anything to suggest that it won't be permanent and mandatory after the test period; because "only" 300 people objected to it, this means that everyone else is obviously good with it. 19:12, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Its Wikia MLG it'll happen and it won't be optional. and per ravens wing 19:13, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * N7 likes the wall lol 1358  (Talk)  19:14, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * nou 19:17, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

Two sides to the coin (fucking edit conflicts) Here me out here, whilst I hate the new update (Wikia should be fixing all the half broken shit they've made like Chat and the *shudders* Admin Dashboard imo), there's more logic in changing to the new layout as opposed to staying with the old one. 19:19, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * "There's more logic in changing to the new layout as opposed to staying with the old one." This. 19:22, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * To be fair, this isn't the first time we've had to do this; the new skin and new editing layout were both forced on us with little or no choice; I think the hope is at the minute that if we raise enough of a shitstorm about it it'll at least become optional like Oasis is. 19:23, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * One of those heres should be a hear. Can you guess which one? But in all seriousness I oppose the new layout and will stick with monobook until the day it's removed or something better shows up. The same goes for any of Wikia's new features. BOofficialicon.jpg Poketape Talk 20:26, October 6, 2011 (UTC)
 * Poketape, its for both monobook and Oasis. Nice, huh? 10:58, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

If this feature is an inevitable change for all of wikia, there is no sense in not implementing it now. I give my full support for this topic which really shouldn't be met by much opposition. Shotrocket6 20:38, October 6, 2011 (UTC)

I approve. No matter what we do, Wikia will end up adapting it anyways, so we better get used to it now. While I honestly don't care about Message Wall (don't like it, don't hate it), Wikia should have fixed Chat. srsly DarkMetroid567 01:18, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Just FYI staff haven't yet decided whether they make it optional or not. 1358 (Talk)  12:50, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

I've seen Message Wall in action. It's like the blog comments only you can add subjects and it just looks cooler. It's brilliant. 10:58, October 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * No, not brilliant. It kinda sucks worse than our Talk Pages, but I don't see why there is so many complaints. It's just a new graphical change, nothing more. DarkMetroid567 14:13, October 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh well, I still like it. And I'm sure that most people just don't understand how to use it yet, but that will change eventually. 16:54, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

I would just like to point out that we are one of the most active wikis on wikia; that said, we cannot pass up this chance to offer our feedback to Wikia about this new feature, as it would help them refine and perfect this new tool before it goes global. Shotrocket6 10:30, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * ^ 16:54, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Support

 * 1) As nom.  06:15, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you saying Wikia is skynet?! :O 15:05, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * No! Wikia is worse, much worse... :3 22:50, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * What's worse then Skynet!? Ireland_flag.gif  CoaZ Talk Ireland_flag.gif   22:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Wikia, duh. 13:44, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * If Wikia keeps making crappy moves like this they are gonna run themselfs into the toilet. 16:23, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Well seeing that the chat doesn't always work, and I can't get on it, but instead of fixing it, they make another new feature, I'd say they're almost there. Ireland_flag.gif  CoaZ Talk Ireland_flag.gif   16:59, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Per comments above. - Crazy Sam10 Talk Poll[[File:ShadowAttackSmallAni.gif]] 15:07, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) I don't see any reason why we shouldn't have it.  15:14, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Let's just sock it and get this over and done with. Besides I kinda like the idea.  15:39, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 4) Best to limit the damage done by this new update by switching early I guess.  20:54, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 5) To be honest I feel apathy towards the transition, but it does seem more efficient, who knows maybe N7 will find a way to abuse this new feature, show its flaws, and get globally banned again. :) 22:50, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 6) I don't care about Message Wall, but it doesn't hurt at all to switch now. We're going to be forced to have it, so we might as well get used to it. DarkMetroid567 03:04, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * 7) I think that the backlash for this new Message Wall is that people don't like any change that much, and this is a huge change. I never really had that much experience with Talk Pages (like the noob that I am), so I really don't care about the switch. Might as well get it over with, I suppose.  Ice Water Fearlessly Trained Walruses  741|< |*463 20:32, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 8) Sadly, i agree... Most of us seem to dislike the Message wall, but we should change it and try to get used to it as quickly as possible. We can't avoid the change, it's kinda pointless to resist.  20:53, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 9) Per Firebird. --21:26, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 10) Why not? The change is inevitable - so why don't we take it on early? --  16:10, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Sadly, i agree... Most of us seem to dislike the Message wall, but we should change it and try to get used to it as quickly as possible. We can't avoid the change, it's kinda pointless to resist.  20:53, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) Per Firebird. --21:26, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 3) Why not? The change is inevitable - so why don't we take it on early? --  16:10, October 17, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral

 * 1) W/e, the Message Wall will be coming sooner or later, so it's pointless trying to delay the inevitable. Sgt. S.S. 20:49, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)   ♥   [M1k3y]   ★  Rouge-3.gif 21:50, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1)   ♥   [M1k3y]   ★  Rouge-3.gif 21:50, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

 * Nou 22:51, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats an invalid reason Xd1358. 12:33, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * This cat is pushing a watermelon from a lake. Your argument is invalid. 1358  (Talk)  12:48, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * What does a cat pushing a watermelon have to do with anything in this discussion? lrn2on-topic Xd. 20:09, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * It has EVERYTHING to do with the topic. 20:58, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Totally per ^. Poor MLG nub. 1358  (Talk)  08:56, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1)  Ireland_flag.gif  CoaZ Talk Ireland_flag.gif   21:21, October 7, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2) I think we should wait until other wikis give feedback, then base our decision off their impressions. Ph illy cj  12:39, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter what the other wikis say; it will be a wikia-wide change at some point. Everybody will have to do it. Shotrocket6 12:52, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Look at it this way. If it's bad and we enable it, we have to live with something we don't like. If it's bad and we don't enable it, we can wait until it's good, or put it off for as long as possible. If it's good and we enable it, most of us are happy. If it's good and we disable it, we can enable it when we are ready. No matter what way you look at it, it's better to disable it for the time being. It works out better if we have it disabled. Ph illy cj 13:39, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * So this is more of a neutral vote then philly. 13:43, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Not really. It's a 50/50 working out for the better in the enable option, but it's a near 100% chance of it working in the disable. <font style="color:black;background:#3dba2d;">Ph <font style="color:black;background:white;">illy <font style="color:Black;background:Orange;">cj 13:55, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Nice try N7 1358  <sup style="color:#336600;">(Talk)  09:01, October 9, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) BOofficialicon.jpg  Poketape Talk 20:56, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * We know that, but we're going to have to use it soon. 21:01, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * We don't know if it's going to suck. Let's just carry on because we're going to HAVE to use it. DarkMetroid567 21:27, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes we do. 21:30, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't really suck. Like I said, too bad, so sad. DarkMetroid567 21:33, October 8, 2011 (UTC)
 * After reading through the link Smuff sent, it really does look like it sucks. It also seems like this feature is still being developed, so we should give it more time. BOofficialicon.jpg Poketape Talk 02:12, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) --Azuris( talk ) 17:12, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)  23:15, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) --Azuris( talk ) 17:12, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
 * 2)  23:15, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hang on a minute.
I'm presuming that by the time we've finally closed this WR, the changes will have already been made globally across Wikia. So really we should get this decision made quickly, and possibly take into account what Shottie said in the discussion area. Just my two cents. 18:50, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * What? There is no decision. It will happen, it's just a matter of whether we agree or not. 22:40, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what I said, essentially. So let's just hurry up and end this WR. 14:58, October 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * Votes are still being cast, though. If a new vote hasn't been posted in a bit, then the thread can be closed. BOofficialicon.jpg Poketape Talk 22:44, October 18, 2011 (UTC)