Talk:Moon

Scrapped Perk
Well, you say there will be a new perk. We may see the returning of the scrapped perk "Amm-o-Matic" or "Pronaide".high.quality.of.zombies 23:54, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

It is possible, but we will have to wait and see for ourselves. ImperialDragon 00:15, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Does this relate to richtofen taking over the world? he has everything so can you still play as him or his he evil. I think this because he's trying to conquer the world and the promotional image for Rezurecction. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 01:36, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

"Pronaide" was combined with "Tufbrew" to make PhD Flopper. Mezarool 18:45 August 5 2011 (GMT)

This perk might be able to give us a third weapon, Treyarch did say that it was "thrice" the fun
 * Except the game engine isn't built to handle more than two weapons/player. 21:29, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

End of plotline?
Who else thinks this'll be the end of the zombies plotline? "you'll have all the tools you need to turn back the undead tide once and for all" sounds like a closing line to me. And I think "an all-new perk for thrice the zombie-slaying fun" is hinting that the perk has something to do with the number 3... any guesses? Devilquak 04:56, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

It'll probably be the end. And "thrice" is refereing to the two new Wonder Weapons. CoaZ Talk  05:00, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think it will be the four original characters though. Unless they are in spacesuits. If I remember correctly, Richtofan was in a CCCP jumpsuit in Acension. Perhaps Nikolai and Richtofan is in one, and Takeo & Dempsey are in American ones?

It's not. This will be the final map FOR Black Ops. There is going to be a sequel to Black Ops, and that will most likely have zombies. Dr3adnaught 06:25, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I wonder who we're gonna have to free this time ;)Jprince1015 11:49, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Remember how they said it was going to be the end at der riese with the trailer. i dont think it will as zombies is too popular  KingoftheHi115  ·  Need a sig  11:56, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Just wait until BO2Jprince1015 12:04, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

Does anybody think that it wil be the character from 5 since richtofen got the focusing stone and he now invisible along with the wonder weapon. and I think treyarch would want us to anticipated black ops 2 by waiting to see what happen to them, and that why I say the people from 5 since USA is the only one to land on the moon and it probaly explain who is the pentagon theif is? Also no area 51 too all that said the are 51 was going to be the next map pack!! i think that this is the end to the plotline in zombies and something will happen to the original guys and then the leaders as in jfk will be the next zombies chararcters. Fryingpan57 17:48, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

remember Der Riese from World At War? It appeared as the last Map Pack for World At War, and it's single player description said: "This is where it all started. This is where the master shape took plan. Is this where it all ends?" it could be the same thing here.

"You know, Once upon a time they thought this would end......It never ends!" (  Mickzilla Talk  14:26, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

"In addition to the final chapter"-http://www.callofduty.com/intel/490 This is the end. Badbadbadry 00:29, August 6, 2011 (UTC)badbadbadbadry

It's obviously the last map pack for BO, but they'll undoubtedly continue the Zombies storyline one way or another, Treyarch will make sure of that. I'm just curious if they'll end the current storyline with the WWII characters, or if they'll keep using them. They're pretty popular, so I'm not really sure. They definitely won't re-use the "Five" characters though, for various reasons. The guy above me is totally right, the description for Der Riese hinted at an ending too, but we saw nothing of the like, only flying teddy bears and the Pack-A-Poke machine. Maybe the zombies will be defeated, but they come back later like in every transformers movie. Can't tell for sure yet, we've got nothing to back either side. Devilquak 04:15, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Der Riese said, "This is where it all began. Is this where it all ends?" On the announcment for this map, they said, "...climax for the zombies story..." The climax is the most exciting part of any game, movie, book, ect. and most of the time in games, the climax is the last part you see. You can't have anything more exciting then the climax after the climax is over. This is the end   CoaZ Talk    17:57, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

QED
it says that this can bless or curse you. this might mean that it gives you powerups or get aways, or more zombies. i dunno, im just throwing out my ideas.

94.15.9.115 15:14, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think you might plant the QED like a clamore or camera spike and when a group of zombies runs up to you it could either A bless you and open a wormhole and suck all of the zombies in, or B curse you and take the zombies and double them in some way whether it be size or amount just a thought

Special Zombies
Does anyone think there will be special zombies like Shangri-La? Personally I hope to fight the Cosmic Silverback. Dead Ops doesn't do it justice. Oh, and if there is what do you want?BeatOli 15:23, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I think they should use the cosmic silverback since he already has a spacesuit on. and he should rush toward you like he does in dead ops

you fools, there is only one enemy for a level set on the moon......

ALIENS!

Original Characters
I'm pretty sure the Original Characters are the characters in Moon, but just for proof: http://www.callofduty.com/blackops/dlc

Read where Rezurrection is: our heroes, reffering to the characters.

I don't see what you taking about

Hopefully you're right

Yes that is what I think also remember to sign your posts. (Jererulz 21:16, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

Xbox vs PS3
XBL has gotten every map pack first so far, u think one time theyll release them at the same time for all the psn users  savageporkchops talk  18:44, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think Microsoft's contract is up w/Activision, so XBOX still gets it first. 18:49, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I dont think they are releasing the map packs for xbox first on purpose, i just think that they finish making the xbox version faster than the ps3 one.

No, Microsoft signed a contract with Activision, allowing Microsoft to get Map Packs from Treyarch-created games first. Jerry Wiffle  Waffle  02:52, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * nvm, they announced that its gonna be xbox first, dammit, i just didnt read the entire article
 * this wont get as much ps3 support just cuz itll be too close to mw3 releaseRaygunprofile.png savageporkchops talk Raygunprofile.png 02:59, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * I just hope they drop it at the begining of september for PS3 and not the end because if it does
 * I not going to buy it it only give me one month to play it and 2 week before MW3 come out are going to go back to MW2 to get ready for MW3. also I notice the on the playstation store the mappack for W.A.W cost $29 dollar as a bundle package but yet they give us the same package plus a new map for 15 dollar who come up with these prices?


 * What if they bring it out a week after xbox then a month...I hope so althought for me I would take zombies over MW3 anyday so... ( Bo-STG_2.PNG Mickzilla Talk Augmenu.png 15:19, August 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * if it come a week after I will definitly get it. IT wil then give me the time to play the maps from W.A.W. that i never play but if it don't I will just go to my cousin and play the new map there instead of purchasing the mappack.

'''The contract states that Xbox 360 must receive the map packs for CoD before any other system. Activision is not going to violate a profitable contract just because some whiney PS3 gamers want them too.  Poketape'''  Talk 06:24, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Enviroment
It is strange how the zombies are outside and on the surface of the moon and it looks like their walking fine. KingoftheHi115 ·  Need a sig  19:35, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking the samething that why I asked below what are you thought. other the setion not the moon

NOT REALLY THE MOON
I was just thinking that how about these maps don't really take place on the moon but a training facility that has moon seeting around so that astrounat could train that reason I say these is because on the pictures it show the zombie runing and walking on the moon surface now that imposible so i think its a nasa facility or something like that it could be area 51 anybody think I'm on to something it also could explain why Richtofen was wearing a spacesuit in assecion but then it would mess the timeline.

If it's not on the moon, then why can you see earth? CoaZ Talk  21:34, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

the earth could be a picture in the background to make it feel more real.

You make a good point, but if you look at one of the pictures, you can see a zombie that seems to be "flying". 3arc would have to explain how the characters can breath/walk on the surface/outside as most of the pictures show. <--- This can lead to the new perk which could enable you to breath/walk on the outside. Idk, just a thought. Plz excuse me if i fail at signing this, I'm new at this :P <--- N3WB IizinurURLaddrezsteelinurbandwith 03:10, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

/\ that bee cool if there is a perk that let you breath. also the zombie don't have spacesuit if they were working in space they would have spacesuit and how many people could live on the moon there too many zombie to be on the moon and that why I say it's a facility that have moon setting.

there could be a facility on the moon that makes an area of oxygen and regular gravity around the facility like they do on space ships

Okay so these map really take place on the moon I just found the below statement from tryarch This all-Zombies content pack hurls players into orbit with “Moon,” the climax to the Zombies saga, as well as the most challenging and thrilling adventure yet. The undead shift in and out of sight, waiting for the perfect opportunity to strike. Undead astronauts easily shamble toward their next meal, unaffected by the base’s fluctuating gravity.

Arm yourself with a space-age arsenal of epic proportions, including the Wave Gun, capable of cooking zombies from the inside out, as well as the Quantum Entanglement Device, which taps into the theories of quantum mechanics to bless (or curse!) your battle against the undead. Along with new equipment and an all-new Perk for thrice the zombie-slaying fun, you’ll have the tools you need to turn back the undead tide once and for all.

Group 935 involved
Did anybody notice the crane?



Does this mean that 935 is still functioning after WW2? In WW2, space tech wouldn't have exsisted. Reznov115 Talk  21:25, August 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * There are severals conspiracy theories that say the Nazis built a base in the moon, and then used Die Glocke to teleport. I still suspect Ascension comes right after this.-21:29, August 4, 2011 (UTC)

WOW! i cant belive it happened

Treyarch I Freakin love you

This is my sci fi fantasy come true

but im 50% perscent possitive its not going to end here

Note
THE TALK PAGE IS FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ARTICLE ONLY Shotrocket6 (T/C/E) 19:10, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

that what eveyone is doing talking about the moon what are you talking about
 * He means that the talk page is for discussing changes to the article, edits, etc. The talk page isn't to be used as a place for discussion about the article's subject, just the article itself. Sgt. S.S. 10:17, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

5 Playable Characters?
Well we have our four heroes in the moon, that's ok (I think so).

BUT in Kino Der Toten every people know abot the 5 pictures in the wall, there you can see de four heroes and the mystery man.

I think that Gresch helps the crew to go to the moon. Probably Gresch can be with them. Is it possible? Can Gresch be the mystery man?

I believe it. 88.19.245.199 20:05, August 5, 2011 (UTC)

No zombies is a 4 player co-op survival game. Gresch if you remember from Ascension is more or less dead. Whilst you free him he is just a ball of light. (Jererulz 21:20, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

There's little reason why Zombies couldn't be made to support five individual players. I don't know how difficult it would be to code it, but they have variable player limits in the Multiplayer component of the game, and it's not like having an extra player ruins gameplay. Cool fool 05:17, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

The fifth picture could be the dead Mexican test subject that Richtofen mentioned in Call of the Dead. Poketape Talk 06:20, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

He is, but they need to explain why he is important and stuff like that. Tyler D&#39;Ambrosio 06:24, August 6, 2011 (UTC) Remember what takeo says maybe what was will be again. Fryingpan57 23:36, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

How did they get here?
Ok so does anyone know how Treyarch is going to say how they got here? E.g. Teleporter at Der Rise to get to Kino. (Jererulz 21:22, August 5, 2011 (UTC))

Explanations for Z and QED?
Ok first the guys at 3arc said that the z may not have been a typo. Now most people just assume the Z is for Zombies but that isn't the case. Z is there in place of S, but Z is just a backwards S really. BACKWARDS. Now Quantum entanglement can cause time travel (theoretically). IF it can use time travel then the element 115 that supposedly crashed into the moon is sent back in time to World War II and setting a chain reaction that causes the Zombies Storyline.

Now for the QED. Quantum Entanglement can cause some things other than time travel and occurs "occurs when electrons, molecules even as large as buckyballs, photons, etc., interact physically and then become separated (from wikipedia). Key word: SEPERATED. The QED acts like the Gersch Device but can instantly kill all the zombies on the map because there molecules are seperated. This is for being "blessed". Being cursed is that you get automaticly downed or that the zombies have more/unlimited health (more zombies cannot appear for space issues). I think it is the more /unlimited health idea personally.

What do you guys think?

-ActionFilmsFan

it might not just include that quantum physics is alot more than that so it could mean even more effects

possible the characters traveled back in time and to 1943 to the moon base

in shangri la they traveled back in time to help gary and brock

Story ending?
If the Zombie story actually ends here, how would it end, with the crew dying 'cos the four-some know the zombie plague has infected most of the world (as of Shangri-La) so how would the story work from here? 14:00, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

it would end with them stopping zombies from ever existing by getting rid of that element 115 meteor. i think that the element 115 meteor might have passed the moon and there is something on their that can destroy it

Guide?
Dont you guys think it would be really cool if you had gersch guiding you or a ghost doing a running comentary. Someone like the dead meican or samantha(-possible boss battle). I also think they should have a cutscene like every 10 rounds or something like when you complete the easter egg-there will have to be one.

most of this is gueswork but it would be kindof cool.

New Perk
Any chance it is some form of Overkill? (Overquila) It refers to three, which is what overkill would have to do in Zombies, give you three weapon slots. Just a guess. Also if this really is on the moon, then there should be craters that are perfect for making trains >.> Firefunbro 20:55, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

overkill might give you 2 weapons out the mystery box!

Some theories
I have a couple of ideas on how the crew got there, and what we might see.

Richtofen, now with both the Golden Rod and the Focusing Stone, once again prepares to teleport. My theory as to why he needs it is to control where you would like to teleport to, and what date it will be. Because the teleporter is capable of time travel, Richtofen teleports to the Moon in the future, or the past, I don't know. But because there is currently no base on the Moon, it must be in the future.

The people on the base discovered the 115 meteor and brought it to the base. Someone working there must have come in contact with it, and became infected, thus infecting everyone there.

Going back to Ascension, specifically the Kassimir Mechanism. The 4th node in the easter egg requires the players to use the Lunar Landers to spell out 'Luna', which in English means Moon. It's been proven that the Mechanism overloaded the teleported, causing the crew to become trapped behind a door. It might be possible that the overload it caused could've teleported the Mechanism to the Moon, so we might see it on the Moon, most likely part of an easter egg.

So going to the weapons now. The Wave Gun, which is supposed to "burn the zombies from the inside-out" might be similar to the Flamethrower or Thundergun. I'm leaning more towards the Flamethrower. I think when its fired at a zombie, that zombie will begin to glow a orange-red color. The inside of there body melts, thus all the bones and internal organs are gone, and the zombies will either melt or explode when they are hit by the Wave Guns blast.

The Quantum Entanglement Device is supposed to "bless or curse the player". I think this. If you are blessed, you might get a power-up or a free perk. If you are cursed, you could lose all your ammo instantly, lose a perk, or get downed instantly.

Again, these are just my theories as to what we might see when we begin fighting the zombies on Moon. Dr3adnaught 00:11, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

First Setting?
It indead is the first setting on the moon but not in space, Second Sun.

What Conspiracies?
This is what it says on their website:

Old school Zombie strategies get blown out of the airlock in "Moon," where armed with new perks and a space-age arsenal of weapons, our heroes must overcome undead astronauts and fluctuating gravity as they unearth conspiracies that began in 1943.

What conspiracies in 1943? This could lead to something...Wasthereonce 02:31, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Nacht der Untoten takes place in 1943. That's what they're talking about. CoaZ Talk  17:58, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

Maybe but you know in transformers 3 the americans got to the moon first because there was something there and the RUSSIANS were trying to get to it first? Well maybe Russia had got there first(Ascension) and found fragments of the 115 meotor (forgot how to spell it) and the people got infected. My next theory is that there is a satelite on the moon and the golden rod is like a transmiter and the focusing stone could focus the transmition via the satelite and perhaps ever spread a cure or put them under Richtofens control!

All of the is theory and might be wrong(lets face it, it probably is) but this is mearly speculation and no-one knows what the EASTER EGG is and if you will meet SAMANTHA, i know completly off topic but there are allways possibilities! BLOODWILLFALL

115 uses
i think your all forgetting that on der reise, and ascencion, and shangri la, that on the MOON there is a spot of 115, now seeing that from the earth means the lump must be HUGE. therefore richtofen uses the huge 115 meteor to control the earth (from the moon), just a thought SUPERIORsausage 12:19, August 7, 2011 (UTC)

i think the page should be updated, since there are new screenshots for moon at

http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.251607584860243.63502.113143338706669&type=1