Forum:Decratting Darkman 4

A Bureaucrat of this Wiki, Darkman 4, has been behaving unbefitting a sysop on this wiki. Most recently he supported the abuse of Imrlybord7's power in deleting many pages. His behavior has been crude and some of it, rude.

Evidence will be posted below.


 * Admitted so much as letting another admin abuse power and doing nothing.
 * Support of power abuse.
 * Crude comment
 * A rude and uncalled for comment.
 * Part of the "Blogging Ban" incident, conspired to implement this off-wiki, while a discussion about restricting blogs was in-progress.
 * Helped BigM block and then harass User:Callofduty4 (link needed)
 * User talk:Callofduty4/Archive 2
 * Evidence of the above
 * Other side of that conversation between BigM and Darkman
 * About ten down, the actual blocks discussed above with a reason of: "Got pissy with an admin after his vote to be an admin failed, is a whiny bitch, has contribued nothing of value the past few months, acts like a child, and is overall a pain in the as;need I say more?"

Darkman has not only abused his power, but has supported power abuse, he has also made several crude comments, he has not been a good example to the users, as the sysops should, he's been blunt to the point of being rude in the past. Because of this evidence, it is my firm opinion that Darkman is not fit to be an bureaucrat, as he has abused his power in the past, and has now not only allowed, but supported the abuse of power by another administrator. The evidence says it all, I propose that a vote be held to not only decrat Darkman, but desysop him as well.

Discussion below:

Support - per above

I dont know. Neutral, leaning towards support - I just read CoD4's talk page, and like Chia said, that was power abuse. The country thingy, I don't really know about that. He just gave his opinion. About his comments, I think he was just trying to make jokes, but he failed. Epicly. And I think admins shouldn't do jokes like that. About the blogging ban, I don't know, as I wasn't here. So, all in one, I think yes, he had a little of...unnaceptable behavior, but WE voted for him, WE saw he had great contributions, and WE trusted him. So, I am neutral, but leaning towards support. Just my two cents. P.S: I'd also like to see the good grammar come back...  Commander W567123daniel Wanna Talk? 02:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Comment I dont know what to say to this, I mean the COD4 stuff was a year ago, and they seem to be over it  T  C  E   B 02:21, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

In full support - Hes been in the three biggest scandals to ever happen on the wiki, has been very rude more-so lately that ever. Then this thing with Bord, he supported it, never told anyone, but didn't help him just because he didn't want to get into trubble? It's WAY TO FAR! 02:31, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment I'll say the same thing I said on Imrlybord's desysop proposition: I don't know enough of what happened to make an informed decision. Cpl. Wilding 02:32, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to support- this has gone waaayyyy to far, it is a sad day when a crat falls GenCain sig.jpg T  C  E   B 02:34, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to support - Now, that looking over it again, I see he has gone way too far. Such a behavior is unacceptable for an admin, much less for a 'crat. [[File:Anim-ac-130 emblem.gif]] Commander W567123daniel Wanna Talk? 02:39, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Support - Damn edit conflicts, you all summarized it up for me. --CodExpert 02:40, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Support -
 * Support - That's straight up BS! What he has been doing is just unfitting for an admin! Beretta92FS.jpgSgt.Safe-Sex Wrap itbefore you tap it!|undefined 02:52, J
 * Support -
 * Support - That's straight up BS! What he has been doing is just unfitting for an admin! Beretta92FS.jpgSgt.Safe-Sex Wrap itbefore you tap it!|undefined 02:52, J

une 10, 2010 (UTC)

Comment You guys really, really think that what I've been doing is "power abuse" lately? What aren't you going after CoD4? He said he was fine with the deletions and he's been in the latest scandal. Also, you're digging up old shit from a year ago that everybody has gotten over.

I DIDN'T HELP BORD WITH HIS SHIT.

Do you guys even know what "power abuser" is? Adding a few unpopular decisions is nothing compared what I've seen. I'm sure some other would agree. I mean, I've been banning vandals, reverting crap and other stuff.

If you guys are getting upset over a few rude comments, then I don't know what to say.

Sometimes, part of me thinks that people want to get rid of me as a fall guy for everything bad that has happened on this wiki. Darkman 4 03:04, June 10, 2010 (UTC)


 * As I've said, doing nothing, as a crat, is just as bad as helping. And this is a repeat, we have evidence of prior power abuse Darkman...
 * Might as well get CoD and Pokertape; they were on and didn't revert any of it as well.
 * Repeat offense Darkman...
 * SO why are you doing this Darth? You got something against me? Darkman 4 03:09, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * No I don't, I may not like you, but I used to respect you.
 * I still can't beleive that people thing the "delete irl" crap is "power abuse". If I really were power abusing, I'd ban everyone that voted for me. Darkman 4 03:13, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * He did it without the consent of any admin other than you. He didn't make an official proposal.
 * Oh so now you're going to use this against me? Come on. Darkman 4 03:16, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I won't, i can see that as something you needed to say. Doltensig.jpeg 03:19, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Neutral - A decision on this is hard to make. One desysoping him has been brought up before so it is obivious that this is not the first time that people feel he has abused power. And looking at the block log some of his comments are in blatant violation of the treat other users properly section in the user treatment policy. "is a whiny bitch" sounds like a personal attack and if anyone else had done so they would be banned. But for supporting Bord is he really at fault blaming the follower is not a great thing Darkman agreed with the deletion which probably should have been done differently but did not start it. And besides from the offensive comments and like material he has helped by blocking vandals while he may have been more rude than needed he has done a damn good job. So where are we without him if we are going to desysop him the question is can we find someone who is nicer to replace him? If not then we may hurt ourseleves. Darkman has told other users like CoD4 that he willl give them another chance is that needed here? Because while he may not be the best of people he does a good job if you look at him you will see negatives that might deserve a block but if you look at bans and reverted edits I see one thing. Results.
 * Foxtrot12 03:20, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Strong oppose For the same reasons as Bord's, most of the stuff on there is ages old and no longer relevant (particularly the Cod4 incident, Darkman was strongly warned at that point, and the main person responsible was de-sysopped). The deletions are covered by policy, no RL articles. I don't necessarily agree with the policy (personally I think a little RL info is okay, but that's neither here nor there), but both Bord and Darkman were well within their rights to do this, as it is covered by policy. As for the blogging ban incident, if we're going to be dragging that incident out of the proverbial muck again, then, according to that logic, I, and several other admins who I will not name also deserve to be de-sysopped, I thought that we had made it clear we had made a mistake with that, and we worked to implement a less-restrictive policy, which we did.--WouldYouKindly 03:21, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Time doesn't make it any less relevant.
 * So we should dig up everything on every user and hold it against them for life then? Sometimes, you need to forgive and forget, which is what happened earlier. Darkman 4 03:27, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Per Darth, it doesn't matter how long ago it was, that was a major offence. Doltensig.jpeg 03:30, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * It was, but we've made up. I admitted I was wrong and now CoD4 is one of our best users. Do things like "apologies" mean nothing these days? Darkman 4 03:32, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Especially since Darkman has not blocked anyone who didn't have it coming (IE vandals) since then. Give him a break, it happened several months ago. If we're going to drag stuff like this up, why not bring up my less-than-friendly comments to Williamstrother on the Gary Sanderson talk page and try to de-sysop me?--WouldYouKindly 03:29, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * As I said, repeat offense WYK.
 * I apologied on both counts and realized that we did bad things and I haven't done them since. Like I said, all that matters is that I did something bad and that my apologies don't matter. Darkman 4 03:35, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please point me to where he blocked someone else who didn't deserve it. Deleting the RL articles was NOT power abuse. It was following the new policies of no RL info (which again, I don't necessarily agree with, but rules are rules, this is the Call of Duty Wiki, not Wikipedia). Saying it repeatedly does not make it so.--WouldYouKindly 03:36, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not on that scale it's not, Bord was going to delete whole catagorize without anyones thoughts. And Darkman went with it, without telling anyone. Doltensig.jpeg 03:38, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Those articles could have been improved to be CoD canon only. And they were not his to decide to delete. This is about Darkman, not Bord anyway. Why are you bringing Bord's actions up? I'm tired of people trying to change the subject, it's ridiculous.
 * Because Bord was the one that started it up, Darkman just went along with it.--WouldYouKindly 03:42, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Doing nothing is just as bad, sometimes worse, than doing something bad. Doltensig.jpeg 03:44, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * So I'm just as guilty as the guy deleted all of them? that's like saying a cop is guilty of murder if he got pushed out of the way by a suspect while he was trying to chase him. Darkman 4 03:48, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * It's like a cop seeing a murder, but not doing anything at all about it. Doltensig.jpeg 03:49, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Comments - With the comments, I didn't expect people to be so offended by them. They're supposed to be humorous in a "shocking" way. I was bored and thought I'd spice up the blogs with a little edgy humor. Darkman 4 03:27, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Very Strong Oppose - What is this? Anarchy? Why De-sysop an excellent user? His contributions are some of few that dramitically changed this wiki. Maj.Gage Talk. 03:34, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Strong support - "I want it to give me a blowjob" -- Darkman 4. Are you aware there are some "younger" users on this wiki? If an unregistered user came here, and saw tht comment and was offended, we could have lost a potentially great user. "Spicing up a blog with humor" is different than vulgarities. And what he said on my talk page was pure idiocy. I cannot believe he said that. Him along with a few other admins, have been getting a little power hungy... His intent upon my talk page of flaming me to keep my block longer was obvious, and I didn't fall for it that time.--TMOI 03:39, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * We don't have any rules against vulgar language like that. The only thing we punish for bad language is excessive cussing and usage of derogatory terms like "fag". Darkman 4 03:39, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm with Darkman on this one, thats nothing to worry about. Doltensig.jpeg 03:40, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to flamebait you with those comments. I was just trying to let you know so that you wouldn't fall for his flamebait. hell, you you started your latest communist blog, I was the one that prohibited trolling on it. If I was just a meanie, then I would've engaged in the trolling and not tried to protect you. Darkman 4 03:42, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Any Sysop could have posted "No trolling" and it would have had the same effect. There was nothing special about what you said, however I do thank you for that protection from vandals, but I could have simply removed the comments.--TMOI 03:44, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Change to support - Look Darkman you are a damn good sysop and if only judging your work well then I would say that you deserve a fucking statue. But your comments on the blogs was just immature and something to be expected from a 9 year old kid.  Plus your comments especially the "whiny bitch" one are in violation of the user treatment policy and could be considered flame bait and definitely a personal attack.  I don't really know the policy on what power abuse is so I can't really go there.  But everybody knows that if some non admin user had posted an offensive comment like that than he/she would have been banned and the offensive comments go on and on I can list more if needed.  And if a non admin would have been banned then per All editors equal you should have been to.  While your contributions have been great and you are an example of a good sysop if you look at your coments and statements then you are the example of an immature 9 year old kid.  Any other editor would have been blocked and while you are a good sysop that cannot be an excuse for terrible behavior.  It fails to matter how long ago it was if you kill somebody then does that mean that if you are not caught in twenty years you should not be charged? You were a great sysop but your behavior was not. After looking at your past and the policys then it is right that you are desysoped.
 * Foxtrot12 03:54, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * So apologies and changing my behavior means nothing. Good to know. Darkman 4 04:03, June 10, 2010 (UTC)