Forum:Raptor and HVI

Seems like the hunt for Raptor and the HVI is the "big thing" right now. I know we've cluttered the MW2 talk page just from discussing it. So I decided to just migrate everything from there here and use this page from now on.

Raptor - Wolverines! VIP
There seems to be a heap of confusion over who this codename "Raptor" is. Some are saying he's the president, some say he's a Russian from "No Russians", and on the whole people are saying he could be part of the senate, a member of cabinet, a commando solider or a general.

There seems to be a vibe that he's an important guy, with him becoming the teams primary objective. So obviously he isn't a random civvie or something. What is the verdict of Russian/American/British? Could someone post a picture of him? [Play out Wolverines! for five minutes to reach him in the meat locker.

Finally, his helicopter has the insignia of the 23rd Infantry, so maybe that is a clue?

I don't think we can use the chopper for any evidence, as it also has the Air Combat Command insignia and says US Air Force on the side. The only thing that indicates any sort of affiliation is that you find and AK-47 next to him. I've done some CSIing in the game, and here's what I found:

AK-47 next to Raptor Chief z 11:41, November 16, 2009 (UTC)
 * HVI in "Exodus" seems to have been killed by someone he trusted ("No signs of forced entry"). *Russian troop in the hallway has same tattoos as Makarov's men in "No Russian." There's also *bloody footprints leading away from the panic room and the troop.
 * Shepherd wants both men secured; they possibly have evidence of his scheme.
 * Briefcase in "Exodus" contains unknown contents, possibly evidence.
 * Raptor can't be the prez: when Foley's squad reaches the bunker in "Second Sun" Dunn says "I hope they got out in time." Surely he would have not have mentioned them if Raptor was the prez. (If Raptor was the prez, Dunn would have recognized him since Foley ordered him to check Raptor.)

Cheers Chief, if you have it on PC could you get a screenshot of his face? Would help his page and can easily be taken when prone and in his lap lol.

Your ideas makes sense mate, but does the presence of an AK-47 mean anything? Just wondering to be honest, and also going by what you're saying, do you think he's an American that knows too much and a target from Shepard, someone who could have been killed like the bloke in Exodus?

Unfortunatley, I use the Xbox and I don't have a capture card (but going prone is how I got a closeup of the tattoos, hehe). However, I'll ask some people on the site to get some pics. As far as Raptor and the unnamed VIP go, I'm thinking they're Russian informants with connections to Makarov. If Makarov knew who this unnamed VIP is, it would explain how one of his men knew where to find him. Raptor, on the other hand, has much less evidence going for him. If he is Russian, it would explain the presence of the AK-47 next to him. It could have been picked up from the battlefield (Take this! Defend yourself! etc.), but I have a theory: when you start in Wolverines!, paratroopers are just beginning to land. There wouldn't have been enough time for them to regroup and converge on the Burger Town, much less with Rangers defending it (When you turn into the alley after you smoke the BTR, Russians seem to be regrouping). Instead of going out looking for a gun, it would have made much more sense for the Rangers who secured him to give Raptor their sidearm, unless he already had a gun with him. As far targets for Shepherd, I'm certain about it ("Then that's just one more loose end" and Shepherd personally assigns you to secure the VIP in "Exodus"). Also, the fact that Raptor has a codename calls his identity into question: why is he so important that he must keep his identity secret? It brings to mind Gone in Sixty Seconds where instead of calling the car by it's name, you say its codename so that anyone listening in hasn't got a clue who or what you're talking about. Man, I didn't realize how much I wrote. Anyhow, I'll continually look into this. Chief z 14:40, November 16, 2009 (UTC)

I've also done the mission again, and it seems as though when Foley names him, it's a little informal? Like simply saying 'Raptor has gone there' leads me to believe that the other Rangers would know who Raptor is.

I went to look up the 23rd on Wikipedia, apparently both Colin Powell and Norman Schwarzkopf and Homeland Security Secretary Tom Ridge served in that unit as well. I'm thinking it's a code in game for a Cabinet Secretary either Defense Secretary of Homeland Secretary, besides we see the Defense Secretary with Shepherd later as well. Anybody know if anybody important lives in King George County? PhantBat 15:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC)

I found a couple of things on the HVI in "Exodus": Also interesting to note, with the amount of blood around him, he's managed to keep his white shirt clean. Chief z 13:13, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
 * He has a cell phone in his hand (possibly calling someone?)
 * He has a black eye. The only signs of injury I found on him was blunt force trauma. No bullet wound (then again, no NPCs have bullet wounds).