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Completely unconfirmed. Plus, the picture of the soldier holding the 'Steyr ACR' is actually a Type 25.

Delete

Delete — As nominator. --AugFC ^{Talk Page} 07:17, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — It's unconfirmed information. We shouldn't make assumptions of what it is. Metl^Talk 07:18, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Unconfirmed info, per Aug and Metl. DarkMetroid567^okay 07:22, June 29, 2012 (UTC)}}

Delete — Per Aug and Metl. Madness fan 34537 http://i.imgur.com/lL5xjBH.png 08:23, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per all. --MLGisNot4Me ^talk 15:43, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Unconfirmed, leaked and speculation. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 17:08, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — Per all, it's an articel we could create again when/if we get some actual, solid information. http://i.imgur.com/E2uiO5T.png Smilular^Talk http://i.imgur.com/KNXWYe1.png 17:44, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Delete — I'll have to agree with the nomination. Joe Copp 19:14, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

Keep

Keep — I've seen quite a few images and sites linking to it being confirmed. here and here promanantly.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:29, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

The first link is just speculation, and the second is from an unofficial Youtube video. While it was me who first suggested that it may be a Steyr ACR (I think I was the first, anyway, cause beforehand everyone thought it was a KH2002), I do not work for 3arc and neither does anyone else who shares the view that it's a Steyr ACR. There is zero official evidence that it is a Steyr ACR. PLUS it most likely will not be called 'Steyr ACR' in-game if it does appear.

Sauce - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKJaAJPz6EU is the YT video that the image you linked came from. Note that it has nothing to do with 3arc.

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 07:34, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Since we can't call them "Unknown X" I think it's far better to house it on a speculative name, that most other people are using, then rename it later.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:38, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Still don't have any actual proof that it's a Steyr ACR. What's the harm in deleting the page until a confirmed name and some official screenshots emerge? At the minute we're going by a YT video and a few user's opinions as evidence. --

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 07:40, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

We have the concept art, so we know a gun is confirmed, so deleting it now seems out of place.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:43, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

I don't see the point in making a page with no information on and only one picture of a gun we don't even know the name of. And I still don't see why it's difficult to just wait until we get confirmation. The last thing I think any of us want is just more BOII speculation on this wiki. It's not very professional. --

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 07:47, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

As long as we have some info it's our job to display it. And I'm certain most people come here for the BOII speculation.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:49, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

My problem here is that there's a fair chance that the Steyr ACR may not appear in BOII. If that's the case, the wiki is going to look less professional and seem less reliable. Speculation should go elsewhere, like Talk:Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops_II.

Of course, there's always the issue of 'what appears to one person to be X appears to another person to be Y'. In this case, the weapon depicted in that piece of concept art has been said to resemble a KH2002, a Pancor Jackhammer and a Steyr ACR. Given that the image is so blurry and there's a blatant lack of detail gone into the weapon, it could be anything. It may not even be a real gun. The title 'Steyr ACR' is misleading and down to interpretation alone. Therefore, there is no real reason to keep the page and I still don't see the harm in waiting for confirmation. It's not like the wiki will suffer in any way by deleting this one page, which, I should add, is a page with almost nothing in the way of valuable information.

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 08:13, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Although this is subjected to change, with the info we have it is aleast some what better to keep this article, however, the naming of the article is some what lacking as most of it is on speculation, though I do stand by keeping it.Argorrath _{おしゃべり}11:13, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

"with the info we have it is aleast some what better to keep this article"

What evidence is that exactly? --

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 15:58, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

The fact that it exist do to a link http://www.charlieintel.com/bo2-intel/bo2-weapon-list-2/ , showing that it does exist within the CoD universe.

Argorrath _{おしゃべり}16:01, June 29, 2012 (UTC)~

Erm, a few issues here. First of all, Charlie Intel is unofficial. What goes on there is basically speculation. Just because Charlie Intel thinks X doesn't mean we should think X too. Secondly, they had the 'Steyr ACR' listed down as a KH2002 prior to a certain someone (me) noting that it resembled an ACR. I have reason to believe that they're going off what I noted out here, seeing as they had it listed down as a KH2002 and suddenly changed it to Steyr ACR literally about an day after that talk page post was made. --

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 16:07, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Although about how little, if per say it is speculation, with the unfortunate ban on "Unknown X" articles, it still provides a different weapon, at least shown in the CoD series. Although the info of it is short at said moments, my opinion is not changing as to why this article must be deleted as now.

Argorrath _{おしゃべり}16:16, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

The only 'evidence' is a piece of concept art. The weapon is not detailed and may not appear in the game whatsoever, it could be made-up for concept art purposes. Why we actually need this page has yet to be explained to me, or why removing it would be a disadvantage. --

AugFC ^{Talk Page} 16:21, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Looking through on what MLG, the article itself would be recreated, when sufficient info is surfaced.

Argorrath _{おしゃべり}16:26, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — due to the ban against "Unknown X" Articles, it would be better to keep it incase any future infomation is released via Treyarch or Trailers. Shadowking58 (talk) 15:39, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

In that case we could recreate it. --MLGisNot4Me ^talk 15:44, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Great idea. Shadowking58 (talk) 16:19, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Keep — Per the above points. Red skin -26 15:41, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Split/Merge

Comments/Questions

Guys, here's a tip, add {{delete}} before you start complaining out of AFD.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:23, June 29, 2012 (UTC)

Closed - Confirmations of the gun being in the game have been proven false, and some opposers (or keepers in this case) seem to agree with my idea of creating it again once there is enough information. Article will deleted shortly. --MLGisNot4Me ^talk 19:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)

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 Completely unconfirmed. Plus, the picture of the soldier holding the 'Steyr ACR' is actually a [[Type 25]].
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 {{DeleteArticle}} It's unconfirmed information. We shouldn't make assumptions of what it is. {{Signatures/Metlman13}} 07:18, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{DeleteArticle}} Unconfirmed info, per Aug and Metl. {{Sig/DarkMetroid567}} 07:22, June 29, 2012 (UTC)}}
+{{DeleteArticle}} Per Aug and Metl. {{sig/Madnessfan34537}} ''08:23, June 29, 2012 (UTC)''
+{{DeleteArticle}} Per all. --[[User:MLGisNot4Me|MLGisNot4Me]] <sup>[[User talk:MLGisNot4Me|talk]]</sup> 15:43, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{DeleteArticle}} Unconfirmed, leaked and speculation. [[User:Conqueror of all Zombies|Conqueror of all Zombies]] ([[User talk:Conqueror of all Zombies|talk]]) 17:08, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{DeleteArticle}} Per all, it's an articel we could create again when/if we get some actual, solid information. {{Signatures/Smilular}} 17:44, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{DeleteArticle}} I'll have to agree with the nomination. [[User:Joe Copp|Joe Copp]] 19:14, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
 === Keep ===
+{{Keep}} I've seen quite a few images and sites linking to it being confirmed. [http://www.charlieintel.com/bo2-intel/bo2-weapon-list-2/ here] and [http://i.ytimg.com/vi/XKJaAJPz6EU/0.jpg here] promanantly. {{Signatures/Crazy sam10}} 07:29, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+:The first link is just speculation, and the second is from an unofficial Youtube video. While it was me who first suggested that it may be a Steyr ACR (I think I was the first, anyway, cause beforehand everyone thought it was a KH2002), I do not work for 3arc and neither does anyone else who shares the view that it's a Steyr ACR. There is zero official evidence that it is a Steyr ACR. PLUS it most likely will not be called 'Steyr ACR' in-game if it does appear.
+:Sauce - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKJaAJPz6EU is the YT video that the image you linked came from. Note that it has nothing to do with 3arc. {{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 07:34, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::Since we can't call them "Unknown X" I think it's far better to house it on a speculative name, that most other people are using, then rename it later. {{Signatures/Crazy sam10}} 07:38, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::Still don't have any actual proof that it's a Steyr ACR. What's the harm in deleting the page until a confirmed name and some official screenshots emerge? At the minute we're going by a YT video and a few user's opinions as evidence. --{{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 07:40, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+:::We have the concept art, so we know ''a'' gun is confirmed, so deleting it now seems out of place. {{Signatures/Crazy sam10}} 07:43, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::::I don't see the point in making a page with no information on and only one picture of a gun we don't even know the name of. And I still don't see why it's difficult to just wait until we get confirmation. The last thing I think any of us want is just more BOII speculation on this wiki. It's not very professional. --{{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 07:47, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+:::::As long as we have some info it's our job to display it. And I'm certain most people come here for the BOII speculation. {{Signatures/Crazy sam10}} 07:49, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::::::My problem here is that there's a fair chance that the Steyr ACR may not appear in BOII. If that's the case, the wiki is going to look less professional and seem less reliable. Speculation should go elsewhere, like [[Talk:Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops_II]].
+::::::Of course, there's always the issue of 'what appears to one person to be X appears to another person to be Y'. In this case, the weapon depicted in that piece of concept art has been said to resemble a KH2002, a Pancor Jackhammer and a Steyr ACR. Given that the image is so blurry and there's a blatant lack of detail gone into the weapon, it could be anything. It may not even be a real gun. The title 'Steyr ACR' is misleading and down to interpretation alone. Therefore, there is no real reason to keep the page and I still don't see the harm in waiting for confirmation. It's not like the wiki will suffer in any way by deleting this one page, which, I should add, is a page with almost nothing in the way of valuable information. {{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 08:13, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{Keep|Although this is subjected to change, with the info we have it is aleast some what better to keep this article, however, the naming of the article is some what lacking as most of it is on speculation, though I do stand by keeping it.{{Signatures/Argorrath}}11:13, June 29, 2012 (UTC)}}
+:''"with the info we have it is aleast some what better to keep this article"''
+:What evidence is that exactly? --{{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 15:58, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::The fact that it exist do to a link http://www.charlieintel.com/bo2-intel/bo2-weapon-list-2/ , showing that it does exist within the CoD universe.{{Signatures/Argorrath}}16:01, June 29, 2012 (UTC)~
+:::Erm, a few issues here. First of all, Charlie Intel is unofficial. What goes on there is basically speculation. Just because Charlie Intel thinks X doesn't mean we should think X too. Secondly, they had the 'Steyr ACR' listed down as a KH2002 prior to a certain someone (me) noting that it resembled an ACR. I have reason to believe that they're going off what I noted out [[Talk:Call_of_Duty:_Black_Ops_II|here]], seeing as they had it listed down as a KH2002 and suddenly changed it to Steyr ACR literally about an day after that talk page post was made. --{{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 16:07, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::::Although about how little, if per say it is speculation, with the unfortunate ban on "Unknown X" articles, it still provides a different weapon, at least shown in the CoD series. Although the info of it is short at said moments, my opinion is not changing as to why this article must be deleted as now.{{Signatures/Argorrath}}16:16, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+:::::The only 'evidence' is a piece of concept art. The weapon is not detailed and may not appear in the game whatsoever, it could be made-up for concept art purposes. Why we actually need this page has yet to be explained to me, or why removing it would be a disadvantage. --{{Signatures/(AugFC)}} 16:21, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+::::::Looking through on what MLG, the article itself would be recreated, when sufficient info is surfaced.{{Signatures/Argorrath}}16:26, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{Keep}} due to the ban against "Unknown X" Articles, it would be better to keep it incase any future infomation is released via Treyarch or Trailers. [[User:Shadowking58|Shadowking58]] ([[User talk:Shadowking58|talk]]) 15:39, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+:In that case we could recreate it. --[[User:MLGisNot4Me|MLGisNot4Me]] <sup>[[User talk:MLGisNot4Me|talk]]</sup> 15:44, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+:Great idea. [[User:Shadowking58|Shadowking58]] ([[User talk:Shadowking58|talk]]) 16:19, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+{{Keep}} Per the above points. {{Sig/Redskin-26}} 15:41, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
 === Split/Merge ===
 === Comments/Questions ===
+Guys, here's a tip, add <nowiki>{{delete}}</nowiki> before you start complaining out of AFD. {{Signatures/Crazy sam10}} 07:23, June 29, 2012 (UTC)
+'''Closed''' - Confirmations of the gun being in the game have been proven false, and some opposers (or keepers in this case) seem to agree with my idea of creating it again once there is enough information. Article will deleted shortly. --[[User:MLGisNot4Me|MLGisNot4Me]] <sup>[[User talk:MLGisNot4Me|talk]]</sup> 19:37, June 30, 2012 (UTC)
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