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I thought of making a page, where people can submit requests for tasks that only admins can do (and possibly tasks only 'crats can do), similar to CVU, without having to look for an admin that's online. These tasks include protecting, deleting or editing fully protected pages, and more.

As I don't know how to do it nice and clean and I'm not hundred-sure if BB covers this, so I ask whether other people like the idea or not. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] -

Discussion Edit

I think this is a pretty good idea. USAM170TalkUSA 17:20, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

Try COD:IRC. ;-) 1358 (Talk) 17:40, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

  1. "without having to look for an admin that's online".
  2. Not everyone knows there's such a thing
  3. People can leave it there as it can wait
  4. Not everyone uses IRC instead of Quick CVU Adder, eh? - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 17:48, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

I understand what you're getting at but most of the time if it's brought up in IRC, an admin/crat normally tends to it since there's usually like 4 or more in there and you can explain what you want in real time: call in blocks, article deletions, etc. Carbonite 0 17:44, August 15, 2011 (UTC)

It can be an alternative. You can also use IRC if you want. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 17:48, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
But there's always an admin on IRC, and I'm usually editing the mainspace. It's not that hard to find an admin. Personal Conqueror of all Zombies Ireland flagCoaZTalkPersonal Conqueror of all Zombies Ireland flag 01:31, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
I'm not saying that there's no admins online. Then again, why do we have CVU if there's IRC? Not to mention any names, some people don't like going on IRC and would leave a message on an admin's talk, and though there may be other admins online, that one may not be and it could take even hours. This would be an alternative to IRC, but not a replacement (duh), and I don't see that it would be a bad decision to make this. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 06:02, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
What if you need for example an abusefilter modification, and there is no admin available who knows enough about that, or need a .js or .css change, and no admins who know enough about that are available? Then such page would be very useful. Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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10:02, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
Do I look like I know how to modify that kinda sorcery? O.o Smuff[citation provided] 10:09, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
^^ That's one good example. Give me a bad side on having this feature that would rule out the good sides. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 16:05, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

I'd like this because I almost never go on the IRC. Black Ops Official logoPoketape Talk 21:21, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Or even better as an idea, a page with online admins/crats so that we know who to talk to, besides I need to do a lot of reporting, and the admins aren't always on IRC, usually away, then there's the IRCban factor. We need to get around that. YELLOWLUCARIO TALK  11:03, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

You don't need to bring your IRC ban into every conversation. -________- Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 11:13, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
Proves to be a help though YELLOWLUCARIO TALK  11:17, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
No, it doesn't. If you keep bringing it up, we can just block you on-wiki too. -- sactage (talk) 16:02, August 25, 2011 (UTC)

Its not that difficult to go to the RC, find the green name nearest the top, and leave them a message. For a wiki our size, this isn't something we really need. elmo's Elmo 150px ramblings 11:11, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

^ This. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 11:13, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
Some people are too stupid to do that YELLOWLUCARIO TALK  11:17, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
I still don't mean there are no active admins. Also, I have done that, but almost every time I do it, I find the first green/cyan name in 3 hours or so. While there are always admins on IRC, they also may be away for long times. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 11:37, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
If there is a vandal on the loose, and there is no-one there to help, contact VSTF or wikia staff. 9/10 times an admin is needed is for blocking vandals. The only use I see for this now is to request page protections, .js/.css changes and to edit sysop-only pages; all of which are usually not important, save for the protections. elmo's Elmo 150px ramblings 11:45, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
Still, I don't see a bad side on having this that would be good enough to rule out the positive sides. Page protections, deletions and all those are not so high-priority, but it would be good to have a feature like this. And I'm not talking about vandal reports here. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 11:50, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

I don't see this as a bad idea and the IRC point is also good as you can find an admin on there most of the time. And the point of admins being away for long periods of time is also a valid point. The page is a good idea for all non-emergency type requests that only admins can do. For image/page deletion requests and all other admin only requests this "to do" list, I think is a good idea. There is no harm in making a page for that purpose, and if it doesn't work out then we can just delete it, simple.Personal WHISKEY35 signature Talk 20:53, August 24, 2011 (UTC)

Voting Edit

Vote on whether this feature should be made or not.

Support Edit

  1. Pictogram voting support Strong Support — It would be a good place to ask admins to do task only they can do. While there is IRC, some people and most newbs don't either know about it or just don't like to go there, and I have also noticed that often the four most regular admins there are often away despite being on the channel. I don't see any major bad sides in this, and as WHISK said, if it turns out to not work, it can be deleted, easy as that. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 12:45, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    All four of those admins are British. How odd. Perhaps it's because they don't have school. Maybe.Personal AdvancedRookie Sig2 13:44, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    Which makes it even better to create a page like this. Only british admins means there are no admins (or not many) while it's night there. Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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    14:57, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    Also now that we recently lost an American admin. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 12:26, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
    I'm an "american admin" by the way. Carbonite 0 12:31, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Pictogram voting support Strong Support — This would make it easier to handle requests that can't be completed by the admins in the IRC then (for example when mr. Smuf is the only admin there and you need something involving code :> ) Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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    14:57, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Pictogram voting support Support — I'm liking this idea, and if it turns out bad, we can always delete it like WHISKEY35 said.Personal Drkdragonz66 Admincrown DrkDragonz66 Personal Drkdragonz66 Garintina  Talk  Contribs  Combat Arms   14:58, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  4. Pictogram voting support Support — A good backup to have, even if not used majorly or as primary resort. TheDocRichtofen (Talk) 18:53, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  5. Pictogram voting support Support — I do not see any harm in creating this so called "admin todo list". It won't affect anything wiki wise and it will give the admins some where to look instead of individual admins being contacted which can be a slow process especially if they dont get on regularly. I think this would be a way to let ALL admins know what needs to be done instead of a select few.Personal WHISKEY35 signature Talk 22:36, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  6. Pictogram voting support Support — Per doc. PierogiTalk 22:46, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  7. Pictogram voting support Strong Support — Per all--Thundergun 3rd Person BOGuitar t-boneTalk!Wunderwaffe DG-2 3rd Person WaW 08:48, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
  8. Pictogram voting support Support — I like the idea. Black Ops Official logoPoketape Talk 21:12, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
  9. Pictogram voting support Support — I don't see any harm with it being added to the wiki. Consider it an expansion of the CVU. --ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 12:42, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Neutral Edit

  1. Pictogram voting neutral Neutral leaning towards Support — Its a nice idea, but I don't really see the difference to IRC atm. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 12:49, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  2. Pictogram voting neutral Neutral leaning towards Support — Good idea, but a lot of the admins are on IRC because they have no life and at least one in available at all times.Personal AdvancedRookie Sig2 12:55, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
  3. Pictogram voting neutral Neutral leaning towards Support — It's a good idea, but we all know I'm a fucking lazy sod who won't check it. Smuff[citation provided] 12:33, August 29, 2011 (UTC)
    Remember, there are other admins that are not fucking lazy sods. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 12:53, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose Edit

  1. Pictogram voting oppose Oppose — Two words - Talk pages.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  13:42, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    One word - WhatIfYouWantToAskAllAdminsInGeneral. Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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    14:57, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    No one has ever wanted to do that, it seems, because we've been getting along fine without such a page for as long as this wiki has existed.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  15:01, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    It's not that necessary, but it would be a good plus. Just because Thing A can do well without Thing B, doesn't mean B wouldn't be more beneficial. And I honestly don't give a fuck on who will do the task, as long as someone does. And also for example, I've left many messages on admins' talks, including yours, regarding an admin task, yet they haven't done anything to it. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 15:07, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    And once I asked Smuff to do something with CSS for me, and I had to explain carefully what he was supposed to do. As it would be easier/better just to let someone who does know something about it do it, it would be better to have such page. And I ask you: what harm is it doing? Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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    18:34, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    Love you too :3 Smuff[citation provided] 22:51, August 25, 2011 (UTC)
    Wath I just sed dat cus u sed "Do I look like I know how to modify that kinda sorcery? O.o" above :3 Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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    08:43, August 26, 2011 (UTC)
    wath, kai them /me is sowwy. u want clopfic to maek up for it? Smuff[citation provided] 12:31, August 29, 2011 (UTC)
    ew ponies. nty, it's ok already :3 Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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    13:43, August 29, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting oppose Strong Oppose — What about the admins (like myself) that don't go on IRC often? They'd be left out. Personal Conqueror of all Zombies Ireland flagCoaZTalkPersonal Conqueror of all Zombies Ireland flag 03:35, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

No, the opposite would happen. Requests to admins who don't come on IRC often like you could get things requested on that page, while they users can't do that easily now. I don't get how you could be left out by making it easier to request things to admins like you... Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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06:25, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Kind of Related, but in the opposite directionEdit

Can we make a page where admins can suggest things users can do to improve the wiki? Black Ops Official logoPoketape Talk 23:53, August 30, 2011 (UTC)

Why only admins? Why not make a page like runescape:RS:UH, where anyone can request things to be done or request help. I think having a page for both of these things would be good btw. One page for general help and requests, and one page for requests for things that require admin tools. Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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06:25, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

I don't get it. - Spetsnaz Logo MW2 MLGISNOT4ME [Talk] - 13:36, August 31, 2011 (UTC)

It's the opposite of the proposed page for admins. Admins could put things that can be done by editors like:

  1. Make a template for COD4 vehicles.
  2. Remove the speculation from the moon page.
  3. Go praise Smuff.

I've done something similar in special chat especially before codferences to help editors get 50 edits. Carbonite 0 04:28, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

Closed -- The page will be created at Call of Duty Wiki:Administrator Requests. The discussion for the user help page above will be moved to a new forum discussion. -- sactage (talk) 10:53, September 1, 2011 (UTC)

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