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After looking at how we currently have the weapon variant differences in Advanced Warfare (example here), I personally think that a table would be a better way to sort them. Here is a mock-up of a table to organize the weapon variants, which also provides space for the rarity of the drop and whatever integrated attachments there may be. I feel that the current bullet point list will get cluttered if we try to put that much information in, as certain weapons were shown to have around 10 different variants. I'm looking for input on the table as, in all honesty, I made it in a relatively short amount of time. If you have any suggestions to improve it, feel free to leave those below. Finally, if there is a general consensus approval of it, then I could potentially move into making it into a template. http://i.imgur.com/4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  20:49, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

Discussion[]

I see nothing wrong with this; it's definitely more clean and more professional than what we have now. Perhaps, in time, we could also include pictures of the varients in this table too. http://i.imgur.com/TLfINDf.gif This username better work http://i.imgur.com/TLfINDf.gif 21:03, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

I agree. It looks neat, professional and it's easy to read. I'm not so sure we should add pictures though; don't the varients all look basically the same? Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 21:57, October 2, 2014 (UTC)

That's where the issue comes into place. From what I saw so far, the weapon variants have both different "camo" finishes and slightly varying models (different front ends, grips, etc). A small side view of the weapon would be nice for the table, but I think that later down the road we will have to make subpages similar to the camo ones for first person views of the different variants. http://i.imgur.com/4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  22:30, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
What if we did like what the Fallout wiki does, with the pictures of the varients as the only pictures of the gun in the gallery? It seems that most of the pictures of guns in the gallery are just in-game screenshots of characters holding the weapon, so this could keep the gallery section a little more neat too. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 17:39, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
I certainly don't see any harm in making a neat little table, but I agree more with subpages like you said. Gives it a more formal expansion.Louis Bancroft (talk) 22:32, October 2, 2014 (UTC)
So have an image of that variant in the table, you're saying then? If so, I agree, it would look better and keep the gallery to reasonable sizes. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 Talk 19:55, October 5, 2014 (UTC)
The table does look neater, and is much more functional. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 Talk 01:54, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

The table is a good idea. However, I'm thinking of having each subpage as a collapsible table that is visible in the weapon page itself, in a similar manner to the Extended Mags page (and not like Attachments/Camouflage images for weapons, which have to be opened to see them). --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 08:33, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

seems good to me. RisingSun2013 21:50, October 3, 2014 (UTC)

@Ultimate94ninja So what you're saying is incorporate both the table and the subpages into one? http://i.imgur.com/TLfINDf.gif This username better work http://i.imgur.com/TLfINDf.gif 17:32, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
94ninjas idea sounds better to me. RisingSun2013 22:11, October 19, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, that is what I intended when I made the mockup table. Due to the size of it, it would probably be best to have it autocollapse on page load. http://i.imgur.com/4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  23:43, October 20, 2014 (UTC)

I've just created a table example (without autocollapse):

Increases Decreases Extras
Goliath [Elite] Accuracy (+3) Handling (-3)
Squeaker [Elite] Fire Rate (+2) Accuracy (-2) Integrated Red Dot Sight
Savior [Professional] Fire Rate (+1) Accuracy (-1) Integrated Laser Sight
Toxic [Professional] Fire Rate (+1)
Handling (+1)
Damage (-1)
Accuracy (-1)
Plunderer [Professional] Mobility (+2) Accuracy (-2)
Devourer Range (+2) Fire Rate (-2)
Airborne [Enlisted] Accuracy (+1) Handling (-1)
Scout [Enlisted] Mobility (+1) Fire Rate (-1)

--Ultimate94ninja (talk) 13:20, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

Looks very good. Will there be another column later on for images of the weapon? http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 Talk 14:53, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
Images are better on galleires, which belong better on subpages. Also, autocollapse is preferred since it allows the page to not take up too much room. I'm going to push this in to a vote now since the game is out and we need to get this implemented. 16:49, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

If nobody minds, whichever tables passes I'm going to modify it a bit to keep up with the wiki's theme. KλT 22:46, November 7, 2014 (UTC)

I'm certain this forum is more for utility. So I doubt anyone will mind if you change the aesthetics. 00:36, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

This is only a somewhat different note, but will we have images of weapon variants+different camouflages, or just the standalone variants and camos on the regular variant? http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 Talk 21:33, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

I'd say just the standalone variants with the camos on the base variant. 350 variants with 19 camos each would be way too many images to do, and they wouldn't even be that beneficial. http://i.imgur.com/4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  22:28, November 9, 2014 (UTC)

Vote[]

Option 1 is we use AntiScootaTwo's proposed version (possibly with some added tweaks given the age of this forum). Option 2 is we maintain just using lists.

Option 1[]

  1. It should make the pages look more appealing. 16:49, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
  2. Looks good Fusion Enforcer DBD Abysshttp://i.imgur.com/xVfyPws.png 16:54, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
  3. Clearer representation of information http://i.imgur.com/TLfINDf.gif This username better work http://i.imgur.com/TLfINDf.gif 16:58, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
  4. Definitely better option. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:00, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
  5. Its an overall better way of displaying the information than how it currently is. With the stuff in the final release, Ultimate94Ninja's table looks like it would be better than mine http://i.imgur.com/4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  17:10, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
    You might want to incorporate your initial design though, since that one uses transparency rather than block white. 17:30, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
    Yeah, right; it should have the rarity column as well. --Ultimate94ninja (talk) 17:44, November 7, 2014 (UTC)
  6. Agreed. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 Talk 00:41, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
  7. Easier to read, looks better. Why the hell not? Madnessfan34537 http://i.imgur.com/lL5xjBH.png 08:58, November 8, 2014 (UTC)
  8. Looks much clearer and better to understand, no bad things to be seen. 132527029757.gifArgorrath おしゃべり%E7%95%B0%E8%AD%B0%E3%81%82%E3%82%8A.jpg15:08, November 8, 2014 (UTC)

Option 2[]

Comments[]

Closed - General consensus is in favor of the table, which will be implemented soon. http://i.imgur.com/4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  20:41, November 11, 2014 (UTC)

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