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Forgive me if this hasn't been brought up before or if this doesn't really matter.

Recently, with the release of Black Ops, users have posted videos of the aforementioned game in our mainspace articles. These videos usually contain copyrighted music and/or bad quality video, which is not enough for my high-quality standards.

What I'd like to discuss is the possibility that users put up the videos for the sole purpose of advertisement, not to help the wiki by contributing. This bothers me, because users should not use the popularity of this site in order to gain views for their video montages. However, for some videos I will still assume good faith. Want proof that some videos are posted for the purpose of getting views and ratings? Here's a few selections of videos I collected from articles.

Video 1

I saw a comment reading "awesome i just posted this on cod wiki" and I asked that commenter if the video was posted for the sole reason of advertisement. My comment was later removed by the author of the video. While it's not a bad video about Valkyrie Rockets, it bugs me that he put it up here for the views.

Video 2

The comments speak for themselves.

"thumbs up if wiki brought you here"
— FunnyGuy5051


"Haha came here through wiki"
— nextgenvids


"Thumbs this comment up if CODwiki brought you here"
— ligerx45


"Subscribe if wiki brougth you here :)"
— EctopicMike (the author of the video)


The video isn't great itself, either.

So that's it. I'm not proposing anything, just sharing my thoughts on the matter. What do you think?

--ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 13:01, December 29, 2010 (UTC)


Remove such videos on sight. This isn't some sort of advertising site, for anything. We block for site advertising, so we can remove videos which are for the sole purpose of advertising.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  13:12, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

I completely agree. --ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 13:18, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
Per CoD4 Cpl.Bohater 02:37, January 8, 2011 (UTC)

Videos are meant to be a more visual way of getting the information in an article better understood to the reader. A video that depicts the effectiveness of Flak Jacket is fine (ex., despite the name); what is not supposed to be in an article is a commentated video of someone going 23-5 with Flak Jacket. Semtex HUD icon MW2 Bovell Talk | Contrib. 13:32, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Per Bovell. We shouldn't have a video called, "Amazing 360 No-Scope w/ L96A1" we should have a QUICK video showcasing the attachments. We don't need more than that. Flag of Germany (state)Sp3cSprechenFlag of Germany (state) 14:24, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

I agree. This is a site for info, not showcasing what someone did. I've dealt with someone many times, but they don't stop, even with multiple warnings.Menu mp weapons coltSgt.Sandwich | Talk shop | Combat record Burger Town Emblem MW2 14:33, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah we should be banning users who upload videos which are purely uploaded as an advertisement. I'm surprised we even allow montages in general. Smuff [The cake is a lie.] 14:56, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

I totally agree about this, I hate crappy videos uploaded by new users or IP's. Doctor Richtoffee Userpage · User Talk 19:08, January 2, 2011 (UTC)

Bring down the banhammer. One good example of blatant advertising is Teb1996. All of his contributions are uploading his own videos to articles. A Lonely Nomad 18:56, December 29, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, he's always advertising. As seen here, they are all his videos.Menu mp weapons coltSgt.Sandwich | Talk shop | Combat record Burger Town Emblem MW2 19:03, December 29, 2010 (UTC)
The banhammer has been brought down upon him. He's blocked for a month. Personal Poketape 8-bit Price Emblem flippedPoketape Talk8-bit Price Emblem MW2 03:15, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

I've found another user, Dill-Mac all his last 25+ edits have been uploads from the same dude on youtube. I'm fairly sure they're the same guy. Shaniqua69 14:51, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Banned. Personal Poketape 8-bit Price Emblem flippedPoketape Talk8-bit Price Emblem MW2 00:43, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

I would like the possible connection between Dill-Mac and Teb1996 to be confirmed. If they are indeed the same user, then a permablock is warranted. Personal Poketape 8-bit Price Emblem flippedPoketape Talk8-bit Price Emblem MW2 01:10, January 12, 2011 (UTC)

SuggestionEdit

Joeyaa can create a new abusefilter filter which will prevent new users from uploading videos. Since this is the main source of video advertisements, having this filter will stop a lot of them.

Also, may I suggest that we don't allow montages of any sort on any article. A classic CoD montage with a well-known montage song and the type of kills you're bound to see in a montage doesn't help anyone.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  12:38, December 30, 2010 (UTC)

That'd be a great idea. --ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 13:10, December 30, 2010 (UTC)
I agree, but the problem is that... well, let's say that a new user actually has a good video to upload. Not allowing him to upload it would be unfair. Also, any users that do advertise should be banned after a warning.
Just a suggestion. Megahobo99 02:28, January 1, 2011 (UTC)
Make it so you have to post it on the talk page first?AdvancedRookie 19:12, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
And how would that work if they can't upload them in the first place?  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  19:40, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
How about they just make an account instead, then? Smuff [The cake is a lie.] 20:38, January 2, 2011 (UTC)
I agree with the abusefilter. It sounds like a great idea to me. Shotrocket6 Talk 17:37, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, we could make a limit of 100-ish edits before they can upload vids? ToShootToKillTalk
And how could we enforce this, exactly? Smuff [The cake is a lie.] 20:26, January 4, 2011 (UTC)
The abuse filter might be able to do it automatically.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  22:52, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Question Edit

Why in the hell can't people just embed the video instead of uploading it? Just a thought. Hud commando CoD addict - 01:09, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

The problem is the uploading of it, only admins can remove the video. Smuff [The cake is a lie.] 11:22, January 5, 2011 (UTC)
Uploaded videos behave like files in the page code, and embedded videos work like HTML tags, which are probably more complex for some people. <youtube> has several parameters to change the size, so something like <youtube width="200" height="25"> would make a video with those dimensions.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  14:09, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

New Idea Edit

I had an idea after looking through Callofduty4's forum on an image usergroup and this one subsequently: why not make a usergroup for a few users that would take it into their own hands to make CoDWiki specific demonstration videos for each article that needs one? Each video would be guaranteed to not be advertising, would be short and to the point, and would demonstrate whatever need be demonstrated aptly. Thoughts? Shotrocket6 Talk 16:42, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

*May also have the clearance to delete videos. Shotrocket6 Talk 23:51, January 7, 2011 (UTC)

I think this is a good idea. I could be a good judge. A Lonely Nomad 17:06, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

I was thinking of that possibility. It's a good idea, someone with an HD PVR or something along the lines of that with good editing software could make it happen. Theater mode's quality just doesn't cut it. --ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 17:47, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

FRAPS or similar programs record at fairly high resolutions. PC players should be consulted. Shotrocket6 Talk 17:59, January 6, 2011 (UTC)
I have both editing software and a HD PVR. A Lonely Nomad 18:45, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

Advertising templateEdit

I thought up a template to use on the offender's talk page, similarly to that of the vandalism template:

AdvertisingEdit

"The act or practice of calling public attention to one's product, service, need, etc."
Dictionary.com

Welcome to the Call of Duty Wiki. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions here, at least one of your uploaded files or recent edits did not appear to be beneficial to the wiki, and has been removed. Advertising includes, but is not limited to:

Call of Duty Wiki logo warning template
  • Uploading non-official videos which do not clarify the article in question, such as machinimas made by fans.
  • Uploading files ridden with logos from outside sources.
  • Uploading montages or gameplay videos which may glorify the uploader and do not contribute to the subject.
  • Making comments, edits, blogs or pages which promote any kind of service, product or 3rd party opinion.

Please do not use the wiki as a form of advertising, it is an encyclopedia, not a video sharing site. I strongly urge you to read the policy page to learn more about contributing constructively to this wiki. If you continue to advertise on the wiki, you will be subject to a block. Thank you.

{{{2}}}


It's abit rough, namely it's hard to actually make a link to file pages since the file actually shows, so it has to link to the contributions page. Anyways, it could essentially be used as an official warning template. Smuff [The cake is a lie.] 19:01, January 6, 2011 (UTC)

The template looks great, it should be brought into play. --ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 11:47, January 7, 2011 (UTC)
Per Ukimies. It sounds like a great idea. But, would it be, one posting after warning equals a block, or would it be less strict. Flag of Germany (state)Sp3cSprechenFlag of Germany (state) 03:45, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
It's up to the admins to judge the strictness of the block. --ukimies {talk | irc | administration} 11:42, January 8, 2011 (UTC)
I've blocked two known video advertisers for a month. Personal Poketape 8-bit Price Emblem flippedPoketape Talk8-bit Price Emblem MW2 00:45, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
That's probably a suitable block length.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  19:22, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Closed - advertisement has been/currently is/will be dealt with. -- 22px-1888721.png Azuristalk 19:25, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

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