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Forums: Index War Room Banning pony images from being uploaded to the wiki
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Well seeing at how many mlp images being uploaded everyday makes me want to facepalm.
We kinda got to remember that we're a Callofduty wikia not the w:c:mlp wikia.
By all means I think we should take this like we took Forum:Eliminating the upload of Pimp My Gun Images. So the question here is- Why do we need PMG images? This is certainly not the Gun Wiki. making them upload them somewhere else where we don't have to tell the users what to license them with and so on.
Remember the meme is just not worth it being uploaded to the callofduty wiki...
New people does not come here for my little pony they come here to look up how to do things and get help. And maybe help others.
If you find some type of error or something just fix it, I'm getting worse and worse everyday.

Discussion

First of all, why are we voting so early? Besides, the section is so generously titled 'Discussion', it's best if at this stage we leave it as a 'discussion'. Anyways, the reasoning behind the similarities with the PMG and MLP pictures is clear, but slightly misunderstood. PMG pictures were banned on the simple reason - players put PMG pictures of weapons instead of a real-life image or an in-game version, or made an entirely new (and erroneously bad) weapon that is either fictional or has not appeared in the CoD universe. Why? As you said, we are not the Gun Wiki. MLP pictures differ from PMG reasoning, however. MLP pictures are put on this wiki not because it is an attempt to replace or change the articles or mainspace in any way, but simply because it is being used as either an avatar or used as pictures/memes on forums, which is acceptable, considering memes and pictures of all sorts are used as... something on forums.

It's also not really the Wiki's (not the Wiki's users, the Wiki as a whole) fault that people who happen to like MLP are on this wiki. I've seen Fallout, Battlefield, everything that is not CoD on the off-mainspace, but it's just a coincidence that the MLP is considerably larger in terms of usage and the general size and life of the memes.

I personally neither hate nor like MLP pictures, but considering I find no problems with the MLP pictures, I'm afraid in terms of voting, I'm going to have to oppose this. We aren't the MLP wiki, yes, but neither are we that restrictive in terms of what content is not on our mainspace. Lightning bolt 2Tsunami VoltTalkLightning bolt 08:22, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Well the thing is that the wiki was made for cod users to be able to help other cod users, and I'm not talking about mainspace I'm talking about files. -- CakeMixPie. 08:30, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
Well then, based on that argument, why don't we just go all the way and ban all non-CoD relevant content from the wiki? 9G3sis0.pngRaven's wing Talk08:32, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
I wanted to do that but everyone would just whine about it. MLP is just getting out of hand when it comes to the images and people can use imgur, imageshack or another wiki to display them -- CakeMixPie. 08:33, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
First of all Tsunami, PMG's were banned because of the maintenance issues. Users were uploading improperly named PMG images with no license. Secondly, we have reached a consensus in the CODference that clean-sweep no more images in blogs. We also reached a consensus that any WR topics that were previously submitted and have failed are deleted straight away. I hardly doubt the reasoning here is different. Pony images don't hurt on Userpages, however, the only way we can ban them is if they walk in the PMG Images' footsteps: Improper Naming and no Licensing. — BlackoutI'm back!Medal, Six Month Good Conduct 08:57, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
IIRC, the immediate deletion of WR topics that have failed has not reached a consensus, not even a voting progress, unless it was on CoDference, which is unlikely though as Bovell just made the WR topic about it. Also, it's not about a topic that only failed, it's deleted on sight if it has failed massively, with the opposition of that topic being huge. Take this for example. Template:Sig/MLG 12:13, August 18, 2011 (UTC)
It's not "deleted on sight." Rather, the proposer would be directed to the PRP page, and the topic would simply be closed. I would also appreciate if continued discussion of this would move to its respective topic. Semtex HUD icon MW2 Bovell Talk | Contrib. 12:21, August 19, 2011 (UTC)
I actually didn't literally mean it should be deleted, but closed. Template:Sig/MLG 12:52, August 19, 2011 (UTC)

When I saw the enormous amount of MLP images being uploaded to this wiki, I also thought about the PMGs. They are both large groups of the same kind of images being uploaded, without any use in the mainspace. I know a lot of meme images are being uploaded, but this meme is so incredibly big here that it might just be better putting some structure in them, by naming them File:MLP_<name>, but still allowing new uploads, or by disallowing them at all, and renaming the remaining files to File:MLP_<name>. Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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10:00, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

I will say this once: Y U NO LEIK PONAYS? But really, It is the people's choice to upload them, and at the end of the day,they can do what ever they want. I am actually beginning to like MLP. Besides, some of them are funny. I see no problem in uploading them. Major Rank MarinesReznov115Talk30px 10:33, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

It's not an alarming thing, yet. Also, PMG images were being uploaded for a looong time, where as MLP goes with fashion. In the matter of time, I believe it's calmed down enough by the end of this year.

What comes with blog-related MLP madness, any blog comments relating only to ponies and not the blog can and will be deleted for off-topicness. If the blog itself has ponies, I'm sure the major blogs won't have almost anything MLP-related, as N7 and many others are moving away from bronyness, and the minor blogs of someone admiring ponies can be ignored, easy as that.

Also, if users like them, they are free to do (almost) anything with them, and to compare to PMGs, they are more varying. If a wave of BF3 files and stuff starts to take over the wiki later this year, should we ban them from being uploaded? Yes, when it comes a serious thing and them images flood the recently uploaded images. No, if it only stays as a common subject between users, and are a little more over occasionally uploaded.

tl;dr? In a nutshell: "let it be, at least for now". Template:Sig/MLG 12:09, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Per MLG. 30pxCoaZTalk30px 01:09, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

It's not like MLP images are used on articles. They're solely personal images. There's no reason to ban them, the reason we banned PMGs is because most of the PMG uploaders did not know how to name or license them properly. That's not a problem with any other personal images.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  12:31, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

This proposal is far too late now to even be worth considering.160px 12:32, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Wat is this i don't even know... *facehoof*Personal Drkdragonz66 Admincrown DrkDragonz66 Personal Drkdragonz66 Garintina  Talk  Contribs  Combat Arms   13:29, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

You forgot the h in as in "Wath" :3 PierogiTalk 14:21, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Imo we should get rid of all personal images. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 16:54, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

lrn2use imgur people.-Diegox223 Zed's dead, baby.Personal Diegox223 Deadpool logo23:13, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

REQUEST OVERRULED, COURT DISMISSED. But in all seriousness, this would have been considered, like, a month ago. Sig dr feelgood

This will never pass Megan. If you don't like pony pictures go to your little Runescape wiki or whatever it is you do. --85pxAJ.BialkeTalk!90px 10:47, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Not on topic. -- CakeMixPie. 01:28, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

DBAD AJ. elmo's Elmo 150px ramblings 10:54, August 21, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment Comment — If you got an image you want to use on the wiki, but it is too big, you might think using the wiki as host is the only solution to keeping the full size and still having it resized on your userpage. Currently this is indeed the case, but not if the following is added to the MediaWiki:Common.css and MediaWiki:Wikia.css pages:

.resizeimg img {width:inherit;height:inherit;}

That would make putting <span class="resizeimg" style="width:50px">http://i.imgur.com/1337ABC.png</span> resize i.imgur.com/1337ABC.png to 50px wide, and automatically fixing the height that fits with it. If you define width and height, the image might be stretched (could be funny for userpages too or something, while this was not possible before) Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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09:24, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Voting

Support

Pictogram voting support Support — As the nominator I support this -- CakeMixPie. 07:04, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — They were funny at first, but then everyone starting using them and it's gotten out of hand.Pancake301 23:19, August 18, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — PMG images were banned from uploading to the wiki. At least guns are relatively related to Call of Duty. If you want to upload images of ponies, go elsewhere. That is all. - CoD addict (talk) 01:19, August 20, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — Personal images like these can easily go somewhere else, which I've stated many, many times. --Azuris(talk) 02:10, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — Pony images aren't relevant whatsoever to the wiki, and personally, I feel like if someone came here, saw all the most recently uploaded images were ponies, and everyone that they could see on the chat had a pony avatar, they would think we either don't take the wiki seriously, or it's a wiki made up of little kids. It seems very unprofessional. --With care and happiness, Supermutantslayer450' You will know the truth... And the truth will set you free.. 02:15, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — I don't even get it. My Little Pony is just a toy line here in America, is it something bigger in the U.K.? I don't even see commercials for the toys anymore. 30pxPoketape Talk 06:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — Since this is only the images being uploaded to the wiki itself, and not a ban on pony images I will support this.160px 07:38, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — There's nothing stopping people from hosting these images on an external source. Case in point: With the exception of the userboxes, all of the images on my userpage are linked from an external source.9G3sis0.pngRaven's wing Talk07:57, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — Per all. The next step is getting rid of personal images completely. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 08:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment Comment — In what sense?9G3sis0.pngRaven's wing Talk10:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment Comment — Using external image sites to host images instead of uploading them to the wiki. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 10:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — Per all. TheDocRichtofen (Talk) 08:43, August 22, 2011 (UTC)


Pictogram voting support Support — per all and per what I said in the discussion section. Also Pictogram voting support Support renaming current MLP images to File:MLP_<filename> like with PMGs Joeytje50talk i is gud admin
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09:05, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — I misinterpreted the forum discussion. As long as this forum does not prevent us from having externally hosted mlp pictures, then it is fine with me. --85pxAJ.BialkeTalk!90px 09:21, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — I suppose there is no balanced argument. Shotrocket6 (T/C/E) 10:27, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting support Support — Per Joey. Keep the existing ones but rename them, but ban other ones from being uploaded. USAM170TalkUSA 12:19, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose

Pictogram voting oppose Oppose — Per Raven's Wing. DJ-2Metlman TalkDJ-2 09:29, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

So you oppose because you want everything gone or leave everything and get back all pmgs? -- CakeMixPie. 10:41, August 21, 2011 (UTC)
Fix your sig Metl. PierogiTalk 01:55, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
No, I'm just saying that with this kind of mindset, why not just ban all Non COD relevent imagery? DJ-2Metlman TalkDJ-2 09:37, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah why not? There are plenty of external image hosting sites. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 09:59, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting oppose Vehement Oppose — the first ammendment contains freedom of expression and if people want to express themselves through my little pony, I say let them--85pxAJ.BialkeTalk!90px 05:28, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

The hell? Not everyone is American so we don't have to all follow the amendments.160px 07:36, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
You out of your mind?? If you think only Americans have freedom of expression, then you are a total {insert word that does not violate COD:DBAD here}!--85pxAJ.BialkeTalk!90px 07:56, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
No I'm saying don't bring up laws which would only apply to one country. Talking about the first amendment is going to mean jack-all to a non American, simply talk about freedom of speech.160px 08:03, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
I don't even know what the amendments are... Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 08:40, August 22, 2011 (UTC)
What AR means, is that this is the internet. The internet is not the US, which means US rules or rules from any other country are not applicable here, unless made specifically. TheDocRichtofen (Talk) 08:43, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting oppose Strong Oppose — I'm playing a wild card here. If they want to upload their humor here, I say let them. I don't see what is wrong with MLP, so I say the pony avatars and images stay. And if you don't like them, why not just upload your own humor? This is a COD Wiki, but when not editing mainspace we need something else to do (Like on IRC it is like an episode of Assasin's Creed). I don't see what harm Pony images are doing, (As I said before) upload your own humor if you hate them. I mean, on IRC and talk pages, we can't just nag on about call of duty all the time. We need things like Ponies and Assasin's Creed to have something else to talk about. And I am sure that there are more bronys (Bronies?) on the wiki that will agree with me. Major Rank MarinesReznov115TalkTactical Nuke inventory icon MW2

Pictogram voting comment Comment — I (and others) have no problem with the pony images, I just don't see why they should be uploaded to the wiki instead of being externally hosted. Iw5 cardicon soapN7 TC 10:45, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

Pictogram voting comment Comment — I think people need to take a step back and think before spouting the "OMG NO 3DOM OF SPECH" argument. This is just about stopping the images in question being hosted on the wiki server. It is not about banning them outright.9G3sis0.pngRaven's wing Talk08:42, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

Pictogram voting comment Comment — per raven even though I rarely contribute on this wiki,If they like my little pony. they can do it to show dedication,however this is a wiki dedicated to call of duty franchise not my little pony wiki. but I'm neutral -Slopijoe.akaM14 user of death 09:08, August 22, 2011 (UTC)

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