Forum:Discussion: Do we push new users away?

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Hey all, it's been a while since I've really involved myself in the community, but something I've been hearing more and more of is the bad way we treat new users which has become ingrained in the wiki. I think we should discuss this to find ways we can solve this problem (if it exists) and move forward with some new ideas or new ways to warn and (not) block users who make mistakes.

Keep it civil though - the forum on the current state of chat got super hot at some point. Naming and shaming anyone is nonconstructive - no problem on this wiki is ever one person's or a specific group of people's fault.      05:42, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

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I think we do, but in ways that it's difficult to explain. Per there was a recent discussion with on a blog of a new users where some of us voiced our opinion about how we all thought quick scoping was cheap/unfair/overpowered which was the complete opposite of his. While I'm not on chat so I can't speak for that, I haven't seen any interactions on blogs or talk pages that would scare off new users, so it could be minor stuff like that. Maybe users go here expecting the community to share many of the same ideas as them and feel a little shunned when we don't? Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 05:54, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

That seems possible, as some users join, make blogs, and either the blogs aren't interacted with, or things like the above with conflicting views happens. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 ^Talk 06:17, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I do remember one user who made a couple blogs that received very little attention and I don't think he's edited here since. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 06:38, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sadly. Sometimes it just goes under the radar due to wiki activity. I strongly believe and hope my monthly newsletters could help resolve this issue, as I could include them in the newsletter. That can be discussed here. http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/276/1/2/bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 ^Talk 06:45, November 12, 2014 (UTC)

I agree completely! I'm not sure where da fuq this xenophobia (for lack of a better term) came from but I've definitely seen it in chat as well. I mean I don't want to have to be this guy in front of some newbie - because that is awkward for me, but making users feel unwelcome is definitely a problem. I guess my suggestion would be relaxing some of the rules (like making a ban an absolute last resort) and/or just trying to be more conscious of new users, since this is kind of a tough issue to solve I can't really think of any other way to do it. --Azuris(talk) 07:01, November 12, 2014 (UTC)