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While the idea of changing the news to biweekly is going on here I thought I might as well propose a few ideas I had.

1. Changing the News team again, Allowing in new members and changing out the older members if they so desire.

2. Updating the Community news to have the the active War Rooms and recent blog posts. Making that the more noticeable thing. I find the news to be more about the community and not really about the actual CoD news.

Well, Both are basic things and I would like to hear anything else that could be done!

Thank you. Twig (Talk) wNJ2zkL.png 00:01, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

DiscussionEdit

yeah, there should be some new news team members. as far as recent blog posts goes in the news blogs, if i become a member of the team then i will automatically put those in there since i was planning on doing so. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 00:05, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

With news team members, like I mentioned in my blog, it'd be best to have a rotation, schedule, all that. Its hard to keep sometimes, which is why the last one fell apart. I don't think trying again while adding in some dedicated (as of now) users. It's not that hard to make a news blog, so finding wiki members that have the ability and dedication to do so is the priority. I say this as, yes, most members of the team have been busy as of late, maybe even forgetful, or just have lost interest. They can't be blamed, since it's bound to happen to most. GhKJh.pngP90DeathmanuceaHlB.png01:02, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

if there does end up being a rotation on it though then i wouldnt always be able to do my part sometimes because im only on every other weekend. i still personally think it should be that people call dibs; and even moreso will it become a problem if news becomes biweekly. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 01:09, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
"most members of the team have been busy as of late, maybe even forgetful, or just have lost interest." That's pretty much what happened to me in 2013, and is why I don't feel I should even consider joining back in, because I'll just forget. Madnessfan34537 lL5xjBH.png 01:10, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
We tried a rota twice. On both occasions it failed. Unless we can guarantee the news team members are always free, and always able to alert us to last moment changes, a rota won't work. As proven in the last two attempts. 10:17, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

I agree. There are some older members that aren't so active, and there are newer users to the community that I feel would be a great addition (Sun, Didkins, and yourself, respectively.) There have been a couple times where Twig has needed to fill in, because certain members forgot. I almost filled in a couple weeks ago, but as soon as I was about to, Deathman did it. About what the news would feature, I personally find that it should be more about the community, as it is community news after all. Of course, I'm not saying the CoD news isn't important, just saying that at times, it seems it's more of a secondary task to put into the news (which I have no problem with.) Anyways, yeah, we should get something done about the lineup. Madnessfan34537 lL5xjBH.png 01:07, January 12, 2015 (UTC)

Something I believe is an issue is we forget that "community" expands to outside the chat. We've had multiple blogs in the past that seem to feature jokes, images and/or polls that only certain people understand. The current use of anime is very akin to all the MLP images we used a few years back, it only applies, and is relevant to a specific audience. And from a personal level, while I happily tolerate anyone that chooses to watch anime, or use it in a comment, when I see it plastered everywhere it's just annoying. We need to remember that the one thing the whole community has in common is Call of Duty, and not anything else. While it's fine to feature outside stuff, we need to ensure it's not getting to an overbearing level where it just alienates more people than anything else. 10:23, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
^This x1000. While I do think that we do need a new news team, or at least new members who are more active, this is so true. The news blogs have gotten increasingly boring for me with all of the inside jokes involved, especially with the polls. I always thought that if we do polls on the weekly news blogs, they should more akin to how the Fallout wiki does theirs more so than how we currently do ours. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 10:49, January 12, 2015 (UTC)
^As an avid anime fan, I agree that we need to make sure that the content we put on blogs should appeal to (or make sense to) all audiences on the wiki. It may be funny the first couple of times, but it does get annoying if you can't understand anything that's written on the blog.On the other hand, it seems that writing these kinds of jokes and whatnot on blogs has become a habit to some people, so I think it will be difficult to just stop doing it instantly. Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 04:17, January 13, 2015 (UTC)
although i dont like mlp or anime, i think the news team members should be able to put their own personal touches on the news blogs by adding some of those things, even if it does only apply to a certain audience. however i think they shouldnt overdo it, just have a gif or photo of whatever and if they wanna add more they can put them in the comments like username does. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 22:14, January 14, 2015 (UTC)
Perhaps it could be a rule somewhere? Capt. Miller 11:08, January 15, 2015 (UTC)
There's a fine line between putting your own personal touch and over doing it though. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 00:34, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

Since I'm becoming more active, I guess I could join the news team. I have a tonne of free time in my week (Holidays and whatnot), and I won't be doing two sports in one week until April (Basketball starts up in February). Capt. Miller 11:08, January 15, 2015 (UTC)

I'm also actually interested in helping out in the news team, but due to my priorities IRL, I think that might be a little hard right now. Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 00:06, January 18, 2015 (UTC)
As am i, difference is, i never have ANYTHING going on, so i could be up to joining the news team, but i may need a couple of weeks to adjust to the norm. which i assume happened to every NT member up until now. Personal LazarouDave image LazarouDave  00:10, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

If updating the news team does become a possibility, I would be fine with somebody else taking my position. I feel that my overall activity on the wiki has been dropping, as well as the possibility of me getting a full time job soon would probably take up most of the time that I'm on here. 4XBy83R.pngAntiScootaTwotalk  00:19, January 18, 2015 (UTC)

I can be dropped out if needed, I'm not nearly active enough to qualify in my opinion. Also, as goes for the content, I agree with Sam, there is a bit too much unrelated stuff only some people would understand or like. -- laagone (talk)  10:36, January 19, 2015 (UTC)

I am also starting to become more active and I always check YouTube for the latest trailers and for any new news on the web. I would also like to join. RooTm3q.png Soap Shadow · Talk  20:22, January 23, 2015 (UTC)

Any users that want to join the news team will need to go though the trial period. 10:23, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
I would be happy to go through the trial period. RooTm3q.png Soap Shadow · Talk  13:29, January 25, 2015 (UTC)
Same Here. Also, should we make a forum for news team trial periods? Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 05:02, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
Trial periods already exist and are in use. Another forum is not necessary. 09:54, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, okay.Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 10:03, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
You can add yourself here. bionicle__unity_duty_destiny_by_cyberpictures-d6p3li2.pngLegos-Rule-15 Talk 03:42, January 29, 2015 (UTC)

I agree with trial periods for those wanting to contribute to the news project. I also agree with sam's point. We need to strive to be a tad more professional in the way we conduct ourselves on said blogs. Self referential humour is fine; but when it becomes so condensed that only 3 other people know the jokes, it creates a pretty shitty overall experience. I'm not saying we should get rid of joking around in general. We should just try to make our blogs and jokes less self referential more broad. I'd be fine with getting consulted by other news team members to make blogs less exclusive. Or a guide. I'd also like to stress that we should at least try to maintain some elements of quality in the news blogs. Grammar, Punctuation, Etc. I mean we are a wiki. (I'm guilty of n7 speeling 2 tho) vm7BQ.png 22:38, January 25, 2015 (UTC)

As a reference, I feel that the Fallout wiki's Saturday Poll blogs are an excellent example of what we should strive for. They're fun and entertaining to read, but still well done. And maybe we could have RisingSun's polls on the News Blogs as an interesting replacement to the pure injokes they currently are. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 05:33, January 28, 2015 (UTC)
Oh, these kinds of polls? I think that would be cool. Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 06:02, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah! I don't edit on that wiki much, but I visit almost every Saturday for the polls. I feel that we could probably do something like that and have the same effect. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 06:27, January 29, 2015 (UTC)
or we could start mentioning my polls in the news blogs again, because to be honest, id like the regularly scheduled polls to be something i do instead of having everyone do it on their news blogs (not that others cant do them, but i dont want them to be a small section on news blogs when i make them).
as far as the trial periods thing goes, i agree we should have people who wanna join the news team sign up for trial periods on the news team page. however, i need to know what happens with the rotation for making them before i join, because i honestly dont think a rotation would work well for me. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 22:27, February 4, 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I feel I need to let people know how the trial periods work. Firstly, you need to ask a b'crat first, since being on the trial lets you make news blogs, you can't just sign up or any user could just ruck up. Secondly, the trial is only for basic news, not the weekly news. Weekly news should only be done by a trial period user if it is running exceptional late, or if it has been discussed beforehand. Trial periods are just to test a user to see if they can become part of the team, they do not make you a fully fledged member. 10:27, February 8, 2015 (UTC)

UsersEdit

The trial users currently seem to be doing well. But another side of this I think we need to look at is the users currently in the News Team, including myself. I feel as if had been mentioned that some of the blogs are getting very inner circle focused we need to assess the users we currently have, and dictate if we still feel they can make news blogs. 10:35, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
^ Agreed. Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 09:53, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
Agreed 100% Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 16:20, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
The first user that comes to mind is This Username Better Work. While the blogs he produces are of good quality, and of a timely fashion, I feel they are the main contributor towards inner-cicrcle blogs. Since this forum has been made he made a weekly news blog which also featured many in-jokes, as well as being told on blog comments in the past that the jokes are simply going over users heads. From this, I am unsure of his continued production of weekly news blogs. 17:55, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
I don't know about thim. As far as inside/fandom jokes go, his last weekly news blog wasn't that bad; there were at least things I could guess at what them funny/entertaining and a few things that I did understand. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 18:41, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
It may not ahve been as bad as prior blogs, but there was still a lot of speculation. And I can quote yourself in stating that many of the polls were complete gibberish. 20:51, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Not trying to slow the momentum of the forum at all, but I think we just need a simple, working definition of an "Inner circle" blog before we go any further with this. KUDLq.png 18:45, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Namely blogs that feature jokes only a minority will understand. So far to date, all of Usernames blogs have featured jokes that only seem to be relevant ton one community, which is not the CoD community. I don't want to give a bullshit reason of "No non-CoD related jokes" because we all do jokes like that, but many of these blogs follow that fashion, and it makes them feel like they only cater to certain people instead of the community as whole. 20:51, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

"Because they made inside jokes" on its own isn't a good enough excuse to demote someone from the News Team, it's unfair, especially if, like TUBW, the blogs are good quality. However, from Sunday's news blog if we decided "no more inside jokes" then it's much more fair to remove them from the News Team because they didn't adhere to instructions. IMO, the inside jokes need to stop, but why fix what isn't broken? If any News Team members do want to resign, of course they can and that, but it won't exactly do morale good by canning the News Team members. I'll be starting a trial period soon I hope, so I'll be keeping to these standards, if I get onto the weekly blogs that is. YELLOWLUCARIO TALK  20:10, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

I'm somewhat confused in what your saying. "Why fix what isn't broken" is sort of defeated by the fact that this forum was made for the very reason that the blogs were broken. I've not seen Username make many normal news blogs, so I can't give any real opinion on how those are made, from what I've seen from the weekly news blogs, inside jokes seem to be a major part of the blogs. And if we have users consistently making jokes that the community in whole do not understand, and in thus alienates them, I do not feel comfortable in allowing that user to make future blogs of that nature. 20:51, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
before removing anyone from the news team I suggest giving them warnings about not adding inside jokes first, as they could either have not seen this forum or could maybe just not understand that they're making inside jokes. when you get used to making jokes like that you might not understand that they're inside jokes and that people don't understand them. all-in-all though I think the thing of the polls not making sense that username makes is a bigger issue than the inside jokes (which, I know the polls make inside jokes, but I mean the polls seem to be a more important issue than the inside jokes he makes as a whole). War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 21:33, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
Username has been told before though the comments of his earlier blogs. And since this forum covers the news team, then we would have a serious problem if the news team members were not aware of it. 05:36, February 26, 2015 (UTC)
A message on my userpage would have been an appropriate way to bring this to my attention, seeing as I don't read any of the comments on my blogs. But in keeping with the issue, I feel a warning is all that's needed here -- it's not like I don't know how to make a blog more or less CoD or community oriented. Implying I get a say in this matter, enforcing the rule to keep news blogs more open is as simple as letting all the members of the news team know that we need to keep content consistent. The inside-y content that I (and some others I guess) am responsible for in the blogs don't take into account the fact that other people outside of the chat actually read the weekly news -- whether semi-regular, new, or anonymous. In my personal opinion, the issue at hand could be handled through mentioning it in chat. Digressing from my opinion; if we were to create some rules pertaining to weekly news blogs then we these rules could be carried onward if there's ever a need to replace a news team member some time soon or in the future. TLfINDf.gif This username better work TLfINDf.gif 21:13, February 27, 2015 (UTC)
I like RisingSun's point about how they become "normal" to us in a sense. Most of our jokes did come from chat, since chat's usually so relaxed, which ends up with us feeling like it'd be normal to include said jokes, forgetting not everyone goes on chat. I do know that this holds true, and if we were to stop, it'd be less alienated for users, but also more dull of a blog. Even though, in its purest form, all a weekly news blog does is link and state news. I'm not sure how we'd go about this, but we could make ourselves appear more professional. We'd have to find new jokes to make, or perhaps we could make some kind of Saturday blog where the jokes could go. So, we have to find new fun that everyone could get a kick out of, while keeping professionalism. I think it'd be pretty easy to simply stop including our inner-circle type jokes, but it'd be harder to come up with new stuff, to keep entertainment. GhKJh.pngP90DeathmanuceaHlB.png21:40, February 27, 2015 (UTC)
When we first started doing the weekly news blogs, they were professional and also had jokes that were pretty easily understood by a large chunk of the community. I would not say that any news blog in recent memory has been anything but incredibly dull. The comments on the weekly news are almost always more entertaining than the actual blog itself. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 21:46, February 27, 2015 (UTC)
The thing is P90, it's not even chat related jokes as much anymore. I mean I'm in chat quite frequently, and I still don't understand any of the jokes that are done. The only people that seem to be getting these jokes are the ones on the anime community, which is about as alienating as doing an MLP themed weekly blog. Also Username, to be completely honest, I didn't think you'd need to see something on your Userpage when the comments have been left somewhere where they can be publicly seen multiple times, I also had believed you'd been spoke to in PM by another user, however I can only assume he had not got round to it. But either way, these comments were in no way hidden away so missing them should not of been an issue. 04:58, February 28, 2015 (UTC)
i kind of like stratos' idea of keeping the news blogs professional but having a separate blog for the jokes. we could call it "Weekly Scheduled Jokes" (yes like "regularly scheduled polls"), and have the user who does it put whatever jokes they want in (as long as they dont go against policies), and allow them to be more inside-ish then maybe also still have the users be able to add jokes to the news blogs as long as theyre not inside jokes. i also think these joke blogs should be something anyone who signs up for it (like the news team blogs) can do, and we should do a "dibs" thing or something for who does it each week. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 22:32, March 4, 2015 (UTC)
If users want to do that, then it's not going on the news categories. 04:37, March 5, 2015 (UTC)
oh, yeah, definitely not. we might have to make a new category for it or put it into the opinion blogs category. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 21:48, March 6, 2015 (UTC)
(Reset indent) Blogs like that shouldn't have any categories that put it on the main page at all. The main page is the face of the wiki, so we can't be putting blogs that only appeal to certain people on it. 09:53, March 7, 2015 (UTC)
Besides, didn't we already discuss adding a new category to the blogs, but the idea was shot down? Not to mention that the main page is pretty full, so I don't think there'll be any room to add something new in. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 21:48, March 8, 2015 (UTC)
However, back to my original point. Looking at quality of blogs, I beleive that Username's slot should be replaced by Twig. Over the course of time Twig's weekly news' have been good quality and have no real inside jokes, whereas a good majority of Username's have. 17:13, March 9, 2015 (UTC)
theres a limited number of slots in the news team? War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 21:09, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
No. However given my previous points I feel there should be a swap. Also, as this forum is dying, if no consensus is reached I will make the change as there is no real opposition. 21:24, March 18, 2015 (UTC)
I'm fine with the swap as long as TUBW is ok with it. Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 06:06, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
I don't think you understand my point. I'm suggesting the swap because one user makes better quality blogs than the other. This isn't a voluntary swap. 09:11, March 19, 2015 (UTC)
I understand that you want to swap Username with Twigy because he makes better quality blogs. I just wanted to state the obvious and let Username know that he is getting replaced by another user. Higaboi21talkKI7e8hQ.png 04:45, March 20, 2015 (UTC)
Like I said earlier. As this is a forum regarding the news team I expect them to be watching it. If they're not its really their own fault. 09:07, March 20, 2015 (UTC)

ClosingEdit

I have spoken with Sam on chat regarding the closing this forum, and he has stated he wishes to speak more users. Since he hasn't actually done this, I'm assuming he has forgotten or decided against it. I will close this forum soon if Sam doesn't bring up the users he wishes to discuss. Capt. MillerTalk 11:53, April 23, 2015 (UTC)

I don't always talk to people on wiki. But I wanted to leave the above section in case there were any users any one else wanted to bring, but it seemed only I wanted to bring up a user. 18:13, April 28, 2015 (UTC)

Before I close this forum, could the users wishing to join the news team list their names below:

Yeah. I stated ages ago about how trial periods have to be done. so this list isn't going to be considered for trial periods at all. 17:11, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

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