Forum:Wiki Achievements

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Hi, I'm Paweł from Wikia Gaming team. As you may have noticed on other wikis, such as Red Dead Wiki or SWTOR Wiki, Wikia has recently introduced an Achievement extension.

The goal of achievements is to help encourage people to make more edits and contribute to the wiki. They also help brand new people get a feel for what they can do on the wiki by showing them various challenges. Awards are only available for logged-in users, so they’ll help encourage people to log in when they’re making edits. You can see an achievement leaderboard here. Badges that you've earned and a list of the challenges that are available for you will also show up on your user page. Admins are able to customize the names and pictures used in the achievement awards so that they fit a given community.

Your wiki has been chosen by Wikia as one of the few wikis we would like to enable achievements on. Would you mind this extension being activated? Ausir^(talk) 01:03, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Comments

I dont see why not, sounds like a good idea. we too are about to enact an awards system of our own with the same intent. Lets see what others think. File:20PX SIG.gif Talk 01:10, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I wouldn't mind either. It'll probably attract a few edit whores, but their work can easily be undone. It would be nice to have a persistent award system that users can check up on at anytime. Darkman 4 01:19, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, there's bound to be some achievement boosting, but it won't be that much of a problem on a wiki with many active admins, like CoD, where any such users can be quickly blocked. Ausir^(talk) 01:23, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Good point. A long block should dissuade most from trying it. I'm guessing that's how the other wikis that have achievements have handled it, which is fine with me. Darkman 4 01:25, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Per Whiskey. This will probably bring more interest to the wiki. File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 01:24, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think it's a good idea. I'd love to have a new feature such as this, I think It'd be a fun thing that would attract more attention. Shotrocket6 01:25, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

If we were to go through with this, would we also enact the Medal System? Sactage^{TalkEditcountContribs} 01:27, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

This sounds a lot like the ranking system we had to scrap long ago. Rambo362 01:36, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

There are some similarities, but the achievement system is much more flexible and customizable than the old ranking one. Ausir^(talk) 01:41, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm liking this idea, it would bring some liveliness to the place and it also makes editting more fun, giving you goals and what not. (Though boosting will make it unfun, but that shouldn't be a problem with out admins.) Talk?01:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I am also in full support. It sounds like a great idea. Sgt. Guthix's mage2^{T C E}

Sounds excellent.nlmgr 02:55, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Would there be any other changes if this "Wiki Achievements" were to be implemented? And will the "Wiki Achievements" affect anything else while they are in use? --CodExpert 02:58, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

No! That would make old users such as Darkman4 start over, and I don't feel like starting over. I would just quit alltogether, in fact. It would just bring about more chaos with people being whores and uploading images, and making idiotic edits and making a bunch of small edits instead of one big one. I like the CoD Wiki the way it is, and I don't like change. TheManOfIron (Talk)

Personally I'd like Chiafriend's Medal system to be used on our wiki ands evervbody has seen what they look like. Chiafriend has put in hours of time and dedication in to making this system and I would not want to see his hard work go down the drain. I went to the Red Dead wiki looked around then left, didnt do any editing and got 10 points for that. Strange system to say the least. On top of that I got welcomed. Anyway, bottom line is, I want Chiafriend's system to be put in place. The wikis Awards commitee will be better suited to see who deserves what award. File:20PX SIG.gif Talk 03:11, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, Chia's awards system is great. Maybe we could use both? File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 03:17, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

They're not mutually exclusive. One is automatically awarded for certain things as an encouragement mainly for new users, while the other is a reward from the community itself. Ausir^(talk) 03:19, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yah, maybe we could use both. File:20PX SIG.gif Talk 03:22, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

As for getting an achievement for not doing anything, the very first achievement is just for visiting the wiki for the first time - its goal is to show users that there is such a thing as achievements on the wiki and to encourage them to contribute. Ausir^(talk) 03:23, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I can attest to the intro achievement being effective. On the RDR Wiki, I originally went over there to talk about a user from there that was bringing trouble here. However, once I was done, I stayed for a bit and added some categories to get the achievements for them, even though I don't own any of the RDR games. Darkman 4 04:12, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Chia's awards are given by fellow users and the system that Ausir proposed is an automatic system. File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 03:26, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

What the heck am I saying? :/ File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 03:28, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, the medals would be awarded for things that the automatic achievement system couldn't measure, like exceptionally dealing with vandals or "good conduct". So they would complement each other nicely, I think. Ausir^(talk) 03:35, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

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If we implement this now, what happens to the users that are already here? File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 03:53, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I think they automatically get the achievements. File:8-bit price r.jpgPoketape ^TalkFile:8-bit price.jpg 03:58, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Achievements are awarded only for new edits after the activation, not for any past ones, unfortunately. Ausir^(talk) 10:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

This might as well replace the medal system. File:8-bit price r.jpgPoketape ^TalkFile:8-bit price.jpg 03:58, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Like Austir said, we could still keep the medals for things that would be difficult to track with a program, like how long you've been here and anti-vandal work. Darkman 4 04:02, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Per Darkman. File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 04:04, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Yeah this would be cool. It would simply supplement the existing medal system, not replace it. I'll support it. I also support blocks for achievement boosters.      11:42, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't support this. I find it unneeded. Also, on the Red Dead wiki, I just found it annoying having a little thing popping down over the page every time you get an achievement. This system will basically replace Chiafriend's medal system, and I don't think we should do that. Chia has put a lot of hard work into that system, and we shouldn't just throw it away. Cpl. Dunn^(Talk)

If you don't like the popups, you can always turn them off in your preferences. And this will not replace the community-awarded medal system, but complement it. Ausir^(talk) 20:32, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have a Question. Do we automatically get the achievements that we should already have, like the join the wiki one? Sgt. Guthix's mage2^{T C E}14:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Hmm, read the line after Poketape says "I think they automatically get achievements." Munchable901|TaLk? 14:54, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sounds interesting, I support this. Bleep-bloop! Munchable901|TaLk? 15:14, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Achievement list and name ideas

These need military-sounding names and appropriate images:

Not in a track:

• Welcome to the Wiki - for joining the wiki
• Introduction - editing your user page for the first time
• Stopping By to Say Hi - leaving someone a message on their talk page
• Caffeinated - for making 100 edits on pages in a single day

Edit track:

• Making a Difference - 1 mainspace edit
• Just the Beginning - 5 edits
• Making Your Mark - 10 edits
• Friend of the Wiki - 25 edits
• Collaborator - 50 edits
• Wiki Builder - 100
• Wiki Leader - 250
• Wiki Expert - 500

Pictures track:

• Snapshot - adding 1 picture to an article
• Paparazzi - 5 pictures
• Illustrator - 10 pictures
• Collector - 25 pictures
• Art Lover - 50 pictures
• Decorator - 100 pictures
• Designer - 250 pictures
• Curator - 500 pictures

Categories track:

• Make a Connection - adding 1 article page to a category
• Trail Blazer - 5 pages
• Explorer - 10 pages
• Tour Guide - 25 pages
• Navigator - 50 pages
• Bridge Builder - 100 pages
• Wiki Planner - 250 pages

Blog post track:

• Something to Say - writing 1 blog post
• Five Things to Say - 5 posts
• Talk Show - 10 posts
• Life of the Party - 25 posts
• Public Speaker - 50 posts

Blog comment track:

• Opinionator - writing a comment on 3 different blog posts
• And One More Thing - writing a comment on 10 different blog posts

Wiki love track:

• Key to the Wiki! - Contribute to the wiki every day for 5 days in a row
• Two Weeks of Wiki - Contribute to the wiki every day for 14 days
• Devoted - Contribute to the wiki every day for 30 days
• Dedicated - Contribute to the wiki every day for 60 days
• Addicted - Contribute to the wiki every day for 100 days
• A Wiki Life - 200 days
• Wiki Hero! - 365 days

Any good ideas? Ausir^(talk) 03:46, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

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Should the edit track include higher edit amounts? File:20755-Clipart-Illustration-Of-A-Happy-Boy-In-Uniform-Holding-A-Basketball-On-His-Hip.jpgHappy Boy ^{T M E} 03:56, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

FNG should be fore joinin the wiki!!!!!!!!!! —Unsigned comment was added by Ssgt.Griggs

OHEMGEE! I just thought that there should be like, this award for contributing to a bunch of pages with weapon caegoryies called "weapun expert" or seomthine —Unsigned comment was added by Ssgt.Griggs

That would be impossible to track. Darkman 4 04:09, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Actually, you can set up new achievements for individual categories (not subcategories, though). Ausir^(talk) 10:03, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

NO ACHIEVEMENTS FOR BLOGGING. PLEASE. Can we make more awards ourselves?      11:42, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

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How about "Wikian of the Month" too? DevilWarrior112 ^{Talk Edits}13:44, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

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For the "Introduction" Achievement, should it be "edit someone else's talk page not yours? Munchable901|TaLk? 14:41, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Never mind that. As for Military-sounding names, what should we name them? I think the welcome is like "Welcome Recruit" or something. Munchable901|TaLk? 14:49, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I have an idea for award names:

Not in a track:

• Joining the fight - for joining the wiki
• FNG - editing your user page for the first time
• Radio Op - leaving someone a message on their talk page
• Fully loaded - for making 100 edits on pages in a single day

Edit track:

• Training - 1 mainspace edit
• The first fight - 5 edits
• Changing history - 10 edits
• Finished training - 25 edits
• Promotion - 50 edits
• Marksmain n - 100
• SSDD - 250
• Warfighter - 500

Pictures track:

• Camera Operator I - adding 1 picture to an article
• Camera Operator II - 5 pictures
• Camera Operator III - 10 pictures
• Camera Operator IV - 25 pictures
• Camera Operator V - 50 pictures
• Camera Operator VI - 100 pictures
• Camera Operator VII - 250 pictures
• Camera Operator VIII - 500 pictures

Categories track:

• Making contact - adding 1 article page to a category
• Finding a trail - 5 pages
• Scout - 10 pages
• Spotter - 25 pages
• Overwatch - 50 pages
• Runner - 100 pages
• Lead the way - 250 pages

Blog post track:

• War journal I - writing 1 blog post
• War journal II - 5 posts
• War journal III - 10 posts
• War journal IV - 25 posts
• War journal V - 50 posts

Blog comment track:

• Battleplan I - writing a comment on 3 different blog posts
• Battleplan II- writing a comment on 10 different blog posts

Wiki love track:

• Newbie - Contribute to the wiki every day for 5 days in a row
• Replacement - Contribute to the wiki every day for 14 days
• Rookie - Contribute to the wiki every day for 30 days
• Purple Heart - Contribute to the wiki every day for 60 days
• Medal of Honor - Contribute to the wiki every day for 100 days
• Veteran - 200 days
• Prestige - 365 days

Just some ideas. --CodExpert 20:51, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Very Nice CE, very nice! File:20PX SIG.gif Talk 20:54, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Well, I think some more unique names for the picture track would be better than just 8 levels of Camera Operator. :) Aside from that, nice. Ausir^(talk) 21:13, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

It's rather hard thinking of something like that. :P And thank you. --CodExpert 21:18, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Examples

look at the resistance,Dead Rising, or naughty bear wiki, those are the achievments. ŖЁĠͧŤ3ŔẼĎ ₵ΘИ†®|฿ŪŢÖṜ^Hi 04:09, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

Concern - say I've got 500 mainspace edits. Then achievements are activated and one achievment is: Get 500 Mainspace Edits. Would I unlock it immediately, or would I have to make an additional number of edits? —Unsigned comment was added by Juan Jose Rodriguez

You'd have to make additional edits. Edits before activation of this extension won't be counted. Ausir^(talk) 21:14, July 28, 2010 (UTC)

I don't like the sound of that - that means that people will not exactly be rewarded for any past actions at all. Can edits before activation be counted? —Unsigned comment was added by Juan Jose Rodriguez