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This idea was thrown around a few times. Basically, have a monthly, 30-minute or less audio program produced by local wikians about Call of Duty-related things. It could be fun, and would engage the community more. It would also add another medium for opinion and discussion, other than blogs and the oft-forgotten Watercooler. Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 17:56, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Discussion

Support — yes. N7 TC 18:18, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — All my yes. This would be great fun to do - however, how would we choose who gets to appear in the podcast? User:Sactage/s.js 18:49, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Me and Kat used to throw this idea around with each other. We were gonna suggest doing it, the only major roadblock we hit was figuring out how to record ourselves having a natural conversation. But with Skype now an option, whoever does this could just record the Skype conversation. http://i.imgur.com/KUDLq.png 19:27, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Some segments could be prerecorded. In theory, it could begin à la NPR or BBC news with a brief rundown of major stories, which can make part of the podcast be journalistic. Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 22:29, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

What you could do is load up a Skype conversation AND Audacity, that way both parties would have a recording of what they were saying, all that needs to be done then is have the files merged and it'll be completely natural. There may also be downloads specifically for recording Skype calls.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:14, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

With a quick google search I found this. It could likely work if people want to give it a test run.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:16, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Strong Support — ^fuq ya --http://i.imgur.com/vm7BQ.png 20:19, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — I like the idea, sounds really fun.      19:32, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — All my yes Fusion Enforcer DBD Abysshttp://i.imgur.com/xVfyPws.png 19:35, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support - Per all, great idea. Now all we need is a news room with N7 as the anchorman. --Bats a.k.a Rarity Filly  20:46, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Strong Support — Yes. Per all. http://i.imgur.com/VwuEI.pngSXe Fiend · talkhttp://i.imgur.com/VwuEI.png22:31, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Sounds like a good idea. As long as everybody who wants to participate can, I think it would be an excellent addition. The Antibrony (talk) 22:36, November 21, 2012 (UTC)The Antibrony

Comment — Would the podcast have to be strictly Call of Duty? I can understand news, but I can't see how one would stretch it to 30 mins, unless you want a recording of me on Black Ops II multiplayer and using Boris Johnson's thesaurus.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

23:08, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

...no?

It's meant to be fun; worry not. Although we are the Call of Duty Wiki, so we should at least try to keep some parts of it relevant. Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 01:47, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Just had to ask, given we get the odd user complaining whenever we do anything not CoD related. As long it's fun over pure Call of Duty natter I'm all for it.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

02:34, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Sounds like a good idea. Argorrath _{おしゃべり}23:50, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Sounds fun. I say yes. --Novafan365, master of scrap (talk) 00:18, November 21, 2012 (UTC)

Support — me gusta. Redskin-26 01:50, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Support — I wholly agree on the grounds that we set up an effective method for recording. I find Skype highly unreliable when it comes to any conversation whatsoever, especially when you have more than, like, 3 people in a group. Doing pre-recorded things beforehand would yeild better results. Joe Copp 01:51, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Support — It does sound fun. http://i.imgur.com/GhKJh.pngP90^Deathmanhttp://i.imgur.com/uceaHlB.png03:33, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Question — I kinda wanna hammer out some details, so who would be in the podcast (admins, trusted users, etc.) how many people would there be, and like Joe stated what would be our method of recording effectively? Redskin-26 01:58, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Skype is perfect. --KλT 10:43, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

I could also set up a Teamspeak server or something similar which we could use. User:Sactage/s.js 15:54, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Mumble would be easier (and we love open-source things, don't we?). Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 16:45, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Support — } - Would this be weekly or monthly? How many people would be in the podcast? I haz questions to ask later :) 08:04, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Weekly may be too ambitious. Monthly is easier to organize date(s) for recording. Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 15:43, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well it could depend how we separate everyone up, it could be possible to do weekly if it's a different group every week.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

07:51, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Every other week could work, gives us a little breathing room to plan. Redskin-26 22:33, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Per Red. Having it every other week could make the podcast more current, as in talking about a forum topic as it is going on rather than talking about it when it is finished. http://i.imgur.com/VwuEI.pngSXe Fiend · talkhttp://i.imgur.com/VwuEI.png23:21, November 23, 2012 (UTC)

Support C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER on not using {{Support}} - I like. --MLGisNot4Me ^talk 10:34, November 22, 2012 (UTC)

Support; Sounds good to me. http://i.imgur.com/E2uiO5T.png Smilular^Talk http://i.imgur.com/KNXWYe1.png 03:52, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Oppose — I oppose on two grounds, although these are more concerns than anything. First, I'm concerned the podcasts will quickly be abandoned by those who are charged with working on it, seeing how far our YouTube and Social Network programs have gone. Secondly, if this is a strictly Call of Duty Podcast, we'll run out of any meaningful topics in a relatively short amount of time, and the podcast will be abandoned once again. Metl^Talk 08:05, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

"seeing how far our Social Network programs have gone." - Well um since me and Damac have been running our Twitter we've gone from 400 followers to 4,400 so to be honest I don't really know what you are talking about. N7 TC 10:13, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

You obviously have never heard me, damac, sactage, cod4, bovell, and madness ramble on for hours on end metl. we never run out of material yo. http://i.imgur.com/vm7BQ.png 10:16, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

If we're strictly talking about Call of Duty related material, and these are 30 minute podcasts, any topics on Call of Duty will be gone in several episodes. What would be the biggest priority topics of the show? Metl^Talk 20:18, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

For one thing, we wouldn't strictly talk about Call of Duty, as has been mentioned several times in this forum. For another, News about Call of Duty comes out almost every day. If this was a monthly, hell even weekly thing, we would have a ton of news to discuss from the past week. http://i.imgur.com/KUDLq.png 20:30, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

YouTube is for videos. Video editing requires talent which is not something every user has, so of course we haven't used the YouTube channel much. In fact we've only had a very small amount of videos made for the Wiki. Also adding on to the "needs talent", a video couldn't be uploaded every week or so, a podcast just needs people to be there.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

10:20, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

If you really want the YT channel to become active then get someone to learn how to use Flash, then animate each podcast. In a manner similar to The Ricky Gervais Show.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

10:23, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

Quick Question: What service would we use to broadcast these episodes? Metl^Talk 20:18, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Do you know how long it takes to animate content? There's a reason YT channels that publish animations only bring out one every couple of months. Smuff^{[citation provided]} 17:03, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Sort of proves my point on the reasoning why our YT channel isn't used much.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

20:56, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

We could just do stuff like this [1]. I know I made the video for comedic purposes and rushed it, but it actually shows how we could do a couple of things:

A) Talk about Multiple Topics

B) Use video as, if not anything else, a visual aid

C) Add comedy too the podcast

I think we should consider using Youtube as a host for our Podcast videos. http://i.imgur.com/KUDLq.png 01:07, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

So what if we only get the resources to do one or two. It'll be fun and interesting, I can't see why you're opposing on an assumption. As Statistics 1 taught me, correlation does not imply causation.      13:53, November 24, 2012 (UTC)

I wouldn't deny it would be a fun and interesting thing to try. If we don't limit ourselves to Call of Duty, and make it a general wiki community podcast, there could be many things the people could talk about. Metl^Talk 20:18, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Per N7 and Kat. http://i.imgur.com/KUDLq.png 18:54, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Question — Has anyone tried that Skype MP3 recorder yet? If it works then we may have all the stuff we need already.

Crazy sam10 • Talk

19:07, November 25, 2012 (UTC)

Support — Sounds good, do we have a way of choosing who gets to do a podcast? Smuff^{[citation provided]} 17:03, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

Question — This question has been asked numerous times, and yet it wasn't answered yet: Who will get to do the podcast, and who won't? My idea for this is to have something like a "Podcast Team", similar to the News Team. PotatOS^{Wanna Test?|My Own Test Chambers|Ohaithar} 19:27, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

I would like this question answered as well. I'm supporting this, but I can't help but wonder how this will be handled. I would love to be a part of the podcasts, I have Skype and everything, but what if there are too many people that want to come and there needs to be limits? Or is it just going to be certain administrators that get to do it? I'd like to know. Magma-Man 01:27, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Support — All the yes! PwnY x SN1P3R (talk) 01:48, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Comment — I think it would be best to leave the commentary to Highly Trusted Users and Admins. Gameplay could be open to anyone though. Redskin-26 02:58, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

Support — I'm in favour of a podcast. Its a refreshing way to engage with the community. However, it is on the basis that podcasts can be put out. We need the most reliable and suited people to run it. We also need to make sure that there is a big enough time period between podcasts to ensure that there is not a surplus or lack of them being put out. Once these issues are resolved, which shouldn't be too difficult, we're ready to roll! DrRichtofen (Talk) 20:39, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

I think 2 or 3 weeks between Podcasts sounds reasonable to prevent a lack of content or a surplus of it. Redskin-26 22:12, November 27, 2012 (UTC)

One per month should be pretty good. Then we can make a monthly blog about it, have a main page thing, etc. Joe Copp 11:53, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

One per month doesn't sound frequent enough to keep people interested, and it wouldn't take an entire month to plan these things. We can do more. Redskin-26 00:17, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Red, twice a month would be better, three week gap at the most. http://i.imgur.com/KUDLq.png 17:17, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

I definitely agree that the more regular the podcasts, the better. However, it is also important to stay on the side of caution when being bold and making a schedule. This wiki, along with the rest of the world, is not immune to freak events which change the original plans we have in place. You need to factor in a few days so that even if these events occur, podcasts will still be put out on time. Whats also important is that you don't "overkill" the podcasts. If they're a bi or tri-weekly thing, those responsible for putting them together will undoubtedly get tired of doing. Putting out 30 minutes of footage every few weeks will be a great strain on those peoples lives. DrRichtofen (Talk) 18:53, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Nah, 30 minutes ain't nothing major. I highly doubt that they will get sick of it just like that. I mean, it's not like it's a job, we want to do this and are motivated to do it. The schedule can be a tad flexible to fit the podcasters needs (like pushing it back a day or 2 or whatever is needed) I don't see how it can be taken as a "strain". Plus getting footage would be easy, we have an entire community of gamers to get footage from, I think it would be a bigger problem to pick which footage we want to use. Redskin-26 22:30, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Question - Who will host/edit/record the podcast? 23:46, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Brainstorming segment format

• Initial, quick rundown of news or stories.
• "Thumbs-up/Thumbs-down" - Commentate the stories, recent developments in Call of Duty, or gaming in general, prefaced with a "thumbs-up" or "thumbs-down." (Ex: "Thumbs down for Activision for eating my children last weekend. This did not go far enough, and I would have rather seen them incinerated. I really think they need to rethink their business strategy.")
• Rundown/discussion of wiki events, war room, or other community features
• Miscellaneous banter

All I can think of for the moment... Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 00:19, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

I would think it would be better if the conversation was more natural, unscheduled if you will. We'd have a list of topics we would have to talk about, but not specifically in any order. The only thing I would agree on, ordering wise, is too keep the miscellaneous banter at the end of the podcast, but maybe allow it too be peppered into to other parts as well. http://i.imgur.com/KUDLq.png

Per Damac. Having it Unscheduled but having a topic list does seem better with the banter would be at the end of it all. http://i.imgur.com/VwuEI.pngSXe Fiend · talkhttp://i.imgur.com/VwuEI.png18:00, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

So, something like the RT podcast? (have list of several topics, discussion about them, etc).-Diegox223 ^{Zed's dead, baby.}23:32, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Per Damac, you should have a topic list, but don't plan out your discussion about the topics. It works somewhat(?) well for the Roosterteeth podcast, should work great here. 22:31, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, this wasn't so much as to make it formulaic and boring, but rather to have a method of discussion to lean on for proper flow. All of these would be represented as just topic lists without any "scheduled" or "scripted" dialogue, but discussion does need to have some structure to an extent, mostly for a) preventing people from talking over one another, and b) streamlining that natural conversation so it can make sense within the context of an audio program.

"Thumbs-up/Thumbs-down" is just what you are talking about with a name and some minor detail given to it. There is a mediator and a panel, and the panel gives their opinions prefaced in short form, and then explained more naturally. It's still very informal, even for the most professional radio broadcasters. Bovell ^{Talk | Contrib.} 00:12, November 30, 2012 (UTC)

I think we should go about it as radio shows do, where they have a list of things to talk about, but they don't go about it in a business-type way. It's a very natural and humorous conversation, that kidna just flows, and generally isn't structured other than the list of topics. Joe Copp 21:45, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

^ This, I think the podcast should have a very laid back flow to it, but could still have a list of topics to reference whenever. Redskin-26 22:34, November 29, 2012 (UTC)

Per Joe Copp and Redskin. Reznov115^Talk

Per Joe and Redskin. I would have said pretty much the same thing if you didn't beat me to it. Sounds perfect to me. Magma-Man 07:27, December 1, 2012 (UTC)

Support - Per Red and Joey. --Bats a.k.a Rarity Filly  16:18, December 1, 2012 (UTC)