Welcome to the wiki!Edit

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Welcome soldier ! Now go take the ACS for me will you ?

Hello DEFCON SHARK, and welcome to the Call of Duty Wiki! Thanks for your contributions. We hope you'll stick around to make even more!

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Question on Talk Page Edit

talk pages for articles are for discussing changing for the article, not questions about how to fix problems. please bring questions to the help desk. thank you. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 21:45, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

Image Naming Edit

when naming personal images, please put "Personal DEFCON SHARK" at the start of the image name. thank you. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 23:11, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

i apologize, i didnt know they were intended for article use. when naming images for articles, please put the game initials at the end of the file name, before the file extension (example: [File Name]_[Game Initials].[File Extension]). also, please give the images proper names based on what the subject in them is. thank you. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 23:21, February 24, 2016 (UTC)

your still naming them the same as you were. if theres something you didnt understand about what i said please read this policy, contact an active Custodian, or contact an active admin. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 00:54, February 25, 2016 (UTC)

I should have read that before... I love you Rising Sun.

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 22:53, May 9, 2016 (UTC)


Because the graffiti on the maps you're adding simply isn't trivial. It's very minor and doesn't really show off any interesting information. Much like Crash having graffiti on it saying "USA go home", it's simply map art, it's nothing special. Most of the trivial already mentioning graffiti should be removed, however as I am on my iPad editing pages that large are difficult. 15:28, May 9, 2016 (UTC)
Furthermore, as explained above, you are not naming your images correctly. 15:33, May 9, 2016 (UTC)
Call of Duty Wiki:Trivia. Also, they're generally not of trivial nature. 15:49, May 9, 2016 (UTC)
As long as you follow the naming convention for personal images then the only real place to have them is on your userpage. Personally, I do not think there is a high volume of people looking for these images. 17:05, May 9, 2016 (UTC)
The images are nothing more than bits of artwork that feature on the maps. They're nothing important, they're just generic bits of anti-America graffiti. MW2 has been out for 7 years, if these pictures were important in any way, we'd already be featuring them. They're not important, and don't need to be on the page. If you still disagree, I suggest you bring it up on the respected pages talk page. 20:23, May 9, 2016 (UTC)
Your argument is now just becoming Reductio ad absurdum. The images you are trying to add to the pages are little tiny tidbits that are in no way important. I'm not claiming to hate art, I'm just saying random images of in-game graffiti isn't a massively important addition. With the logic you're using, then we should also be adding road signs, brick textures and every other image one can find in the files. Furthermore, I dislike you insulting me to other users. I gave you the choice of opening a discussion to other users and you threw that back in my face, furthermore, I permitted you to use the images on your userpage if you really want to upload them. I have so far been incredibly lenient with you. But if you want to be rude to me, and start slandering me to other users, then I will just block you. So, if you want to add those images, then I suggest you bring up the discussion on a related talk page, instead of bitching about me. 21:56, May 9, 2016 (UTC)

Honey Badger/Crazy sam10Edit

Thanks man. I think he is still a little butt-hurt at what i did to him before my block, and he doesn't want me to do anything on the wiki. I am currently talking to other administrators about his behavior and will see what they say, and if there is some correctness in his arguements. Best we just sit tight, and my tip to you is that if Crazy sam10 offends you or is being, I don't know, bitchy,(oh dear, better report me), I think it best to just consult the other admins.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 23:45, May 9, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

What does being a Brony have todo with anything? So far you two are taking this way to heart and your comments/actions are starting to skirt into the rather dickish side. Twig (Talk) wNJ2zkL.png 01:48, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
Other than the fact that it's not bait and the name of the article as COD:DBAD stands for Don't Be A Dick. Twig (Talk) wNJ2zkL.png 21:51, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Your Behavior and Other Things Edit

If Sam were to block you, his reasons would be valid, as you have been displaying poor behavior, violated UTP. Not to mention that being able to edit the wiki is a privilege, not a right. Also, free speech (at least in the US) means that the government can't imprison you for saying slanderous things, not that you can say whatever you want without repercussions.

And no, the images do not belong where you want to place them, they belong in certain areas as guided by our policies.

And just because there's a chance that one person may want to see something is not a valid reason to include it on the article.

And claiming that if Sam doesn't allow the pictures it's because he doesn't like art is incorrect and not an intelligent (or relevant) arguments. Besides, there is little to no artistic value in the images of the graffiti and the maps will only receive superficial changes to their appearance. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 02:13, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

How is going on to someone else page and stating I'm abusing power just because I'm not allowing you put an image in a certain place is incredibly rude. I told you where you could put your images and why they were not allowed on the mainspace. But instead of placing them there, or starting the discussion I proposed, you instead starting claiming power abuse, and getting involved in other users that have nothing to do with yourself. If you really feel strongly about my behaviour, then feel free to create a forum about it. I'm certain all the other users will clearly see though the bias that you're only making it because you're not getting your own way. 13:48, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
Will you invite me to the wedding ?
DEFCON SHARK (talk) 14:44, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Being disrespectful to other users, saying you want to make a forum to ban Sam and claiming power abuse because you're not getting your way, ignoring users when they try to help you, claiming that another user hates free speech because he won't let you post whatever you wish, more or less admitting you're going to shit talk and gossip about another user outside of the wiki, saying that a user is somehow discredited because of something they like (you're way late to the party on the brony hate anyway) and refusing to attempt to create a civil discussion on the topic are all examples of poor behavior and violations of the UTP.

And yes, this is an encyclopedia of sorts, but that does not mean that we cover every little inconsequential thing that someone, somewhere might search. That's not what an encyclopedia does anyway. We also don't need images to illustrate every little detail present in the trivia section, especially for points that are questionable if they even belong in said sections.

No one forced you to make an account and no one is forcing you to stay here. If you don't want to learn and adapt to how the wiki works, you're free to leave. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 19:04, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

No, an encyclopedia does not cover every little inconsequential piece of information related to something. Here's why they don't belong, and here's how we reached those conclusions. And if no one can add value to information (which yes, you can) then does you wanting to add it mean we should add it? Just because you value it doesn't mean it's valuable. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 02:18, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

DEFCON,I actually invited you to go to the talk apge to ask if those images would be helpful. That's somrthing you didn't do. So far, the only person to exprese interest in adding those images is yourself, and without even attempting to get a consensus of other users there is no other users that feel those images belong, or evidence that there are. If you go on a talk page then you could at least hold a vote and get the consensus of many users as to if those images are needed rather than just the fat you feel they are needed. However as I've said before, MW2 has been out several years now, and the files are incredibly easy to access (as I have done so myself) and if those images were in any way notable, we'd be featuring them already. 12:15, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
In case you didn't know, Crazy10: repeating yourself isn't useful. 
" at least hold a vote"
1) You would be so satisfied to see no one replying
2) If someone searches them on a search engine, i don't think he will be redirected on the vote page / Take the time to create a Wikia account to vote for something that..... would, .... maybe, .... if .... the admins find that useful, ....  one day appear on the wikia map page.
" incredibly easy to access"
mmh ....
Ok, they aren't cripted or anything but to get them you have to :
- Have the game's file
- Find the location of the good file (requires learning where is the thing you search for)
- Have a software to browse the file(s)
- Use a software to browse inside the file(s) and find what you are looking for (takes some time, maybe hours)
- Have the right tool to convert what is inside the game's file (requires searching and downloading the tool)
I would call a 1 step process easy, but a process with a minimum of 5 steps that requires hours, i don't call that incredibly easy thing to do.
"Easy" would be making a search in Google image.
But to find the images, they should first be online and you don't allow me to post them here.
DEFCON SHARK (talk) 19:23, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
So, to be clear. You think these images are so important, that no one would vote on them being added? Because for someone that was holding the argument of "They must be important because this is an encyclopaedia" argument, that's sort of beaten your own argument. 19:43, May 14, 2016 (UTC)
If you're so sure that no one would join in the vote, than why add the pictures in the first place? Why should we post them if the guy who wants to add them doesn't even have faith in them? And you can post your images here, just call them personal images and post them on your user page. There ya go. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 19:49, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

I don't get what your problem is. The only edit of yours I've undone is when you posted all of the pictures to MW2's talk page, in which case it says at the top of the page that the talk is only for discussion on how to improve the article. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 19:49, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

" ....that's sort of beaten your own argument." -CS10 : No.

You don't take it on the good angle. Not sure if you try to piss me or if you really don't get it.

But in any case i am tired and won't bother explain. If you don't get it, you will never, you may be a lost cause.

"I don't get what your problem is"- CoaZombies : That is your problem.

"than why add the pictures in the first place"-CoaZ : Looks like broken record . Scroll back i said it somewhere.

"Why should we post them if the guy who wants to add them doesn't even have faith in them?" -CoaZ : I have faith but am tired of admins telling me they don't belong here. Looks like an attempt to fuel the sort of debate.

"call them personal images"-CoaZ : #NotWhatIWantToDo #TooLong #TooHard #EasierSomewhereElse

PS: Good figurines don't make good photos

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 20:38, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Using talk pages as an image dump site does not aid in mainspace development. And no, you were not adding them in an attempt to improve the mainspace, as you made no mention of doing so in your post to the page. In fact, you only provided a passive aggressive message when you posted the images. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 00:50, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

"If i doesn't get deleted by any person with small knowledge or inteligence, here are the Graffiti seen in the game Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2"

Seems like a pretty passive aggressive message to Sam to me. I also have no idea what you're talking about with the whole "A dump site of image for a single image" thing. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 16:24, May 18, 2016 (UTC)


Also, all the images you just uploaded were named wrong. You were warned about image naming. Ignoring warnings will get you blocked. Read COD:FILE in regards to image naming before you attempt to upload anything. 13:51, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
During the upload of an image you have the option of naming an image. It can be seen in the uploading section of COD:FILE (right at the top). 14:01, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
Well firstly, I'd prefer if you out them on your own userpage rather than the talk page. At which point you can simply tell users to check your userpage should they wish to see them. For naming them you simply need to put "Personal DEFCON SHARK" at the beginning of each image. I'd also recommend giving a bit more of a descriptive name in them instead of keeping them as the file names (however if you have the "Personal" suffix then it's still fine). Also, please ensure you're adding licenses as these are images taken from a copyrighted game, and lack of licenses could get the Wiki in trouble. Just for an example, something like "Me graffiti07.png ‎" should be uploaded as "Personal DEFCON SHARK Me graffiti07.png", or to be slightly easier to locate as the description is a bit generic something more like "Personal DEFCON SHARK Al-Asad graffiti.png" would work much better. 14:16, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
I'd recommend you use Special:Upload and not the gallery maker. Unless you'll need to rename all the files on your computer. 14:18, May 10, 2016 (UTC)
As i said, I'd suggest using Special:Upload as that offers more options. Also, given your usage of them, they would be classed as personal images rather than anything else. If their usage changes later in the future, then we would rename them. But right now they serve their purpose as personal images. 14:34, May 10, 2016 (UTC)

Crazy sam10/Honey Badger/Your editEdit

Hey, also, not to be rude, but for each-other, I also think it best if we don't talk to each-other, since they will probably take what we say and use it against us, so unless you don't want to be a member, which I think you said you don't want to be anymore, maybe we should just either shut up and let them tell us what to post, or consult other admins and see if there is some truth in their arguements.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 13:59, May 10, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

Deleting messagesEdit

You might wanna know it's against the rules to delete past discussions. So don't do it. -- laagone (talk)  14:17, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

Why is there such a rule ?

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 14:24, May 13, 2016 (UTC)

You should probably read it to find out. -- laagone (talk)  14:43, May 13, 2016 (UTC)
I did it, still have no clue
DEFCON SHARK (talk) 21:40, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Other usersEdit

Could you please stop attacking users when another talks with them. You've done it with myself as well as CoaZ. These matters need not concern you, and constantly sticking your nose in where it does not belong is simply rude and unneeded. Just because you're getting told off for something and dislike that doesn't mean you have to get involved in every other matter on the wiki just to try and harrass the sysops. 19:45, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

What are you referencing to exactly ?

You never give me any exemple of what you are talking about, this is confusing....

DEFCON SHARK (talk) 21:39, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Also, while blocked, I'd like to ask you not send messages like these to em on other websites. It's the greatest extent of harassment. 21:57, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
1) WTH is that ?
2) When is what "you'd like" entering in my life ?
3) Why don't you 1st answer the question of the previous message ? (unless you already made your answer above)
DEFCON SHARK (talk) 22:33, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
I doubt admins should take things too personally and let their feelings hamper their judgement and the way they take decisions.
Why do you keep acting like the behaviour you do isn't done by you? You left messages on other users talk pages, you shouldn't need evidence for something you've done for everyone to see just by looking at another users talk page. And that image clearly shows yourself sending me messages on another website insulting me. Also, even if I wasn't "taking this personally" you'd still get a block for insulting users and harassing others. Anyway, this will be my last message to you since you seem to want nothing more than to torment me and then feign ignorance. 22:38, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
"I doubt admins should take things too personally" says the guy who's taking things so personally he feels the need to go to other websites to attack the admins. You've also been told what behavior of yours was wrong, I don't see why you constantly feel the need for "proof" when it's already been provided.. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 22:40, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
- " you shouldn't need evidence" So now you decide for that too ?
- " that image clearly shows yourself sending me messages" oh really ? for you it is a proof ?
- " insulting me" I don't know why you think the message of the picture insulted you, apart from the "ridiculous" thing, the message don't say your name anywhere. You clearly take things personally again.
- " you seem to want nothing more than to torment me" Oh .... I am the big bad bully huh ? And would that make of you a little harmless creature ?
If you want to block me for 1 reason, then tell me what that 1 reason is, because i haven't send only one message here. When you talk about a subject don't expect the other person to automatically know what you are currently renferencing to, this is basic logic.
 So you still have to define "you'd still get a block for insulting users and harassing others" what you are referencing.
- "says the guy who's"-CoalZ Yes. I have to confess that i do take that to a personal level when a person tells me that my content isn't interesting. I confess, i am not perfect but i am not an admin so taking things personally doesn't lead me to remove the liberty or rights of other users. Admins have responsabilities. Btw how do you call someone who takes care of another person's problem but isn't part of its family ?
- i think you don't have the PoV to understand it, but: "when it's already been provided"-CoalZ. Where ?
There is a lack of logic on your side you know guys ?
DEFCON SHARK (talk) 23:25, May 17, 2016 (UTC)
"this will be my last message to you" Hard to believe but i wish
DEFCON SHARK (talk) 23:37, May 17, 2016 (UTC)

Block Edit

Due to your unacceptable behavior, you have been blocked for 3 days for poor behaviour. You are welcome to come back and edit sensibly after the block is up, however it is very strongly advised that you read and review our policies thoroughly before you start to edit again. If you believe your block is unfair you can leave a message on this page and an administrator will consider it.

Any more unacceptable behavior and another block will be issued. Thank you.

I'm completely fed up of your behaviour. Since coming here all you've tried to do is get our own way, and then insult us when that didn't happen. And because that wasn't enough you've also interfered with matters that don't concern you, and tried to convince those users to talk behind our backs. As you have no intent of listening to us, I feel this is the only course of action left. If your attitude stays the same I will also revoke your ability to edit your own talk page. 20:45, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Discussion DeletionsEdit

deleting whole, or parts of, text on talk pages is generally not allowed. the discussions you have deleted are ones that are not allowed to be deleted. please discontinue removing the discussions from your talk page. thank you. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 21:57, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

I've removed your talk page editing rights due to your removal of the block notice. You have been warned about COD:DDD before. 22:22, May 14, 2016 (UTC)

Reply to message on CoaZ's wall: "aid in mainspace development" Edit

This is almost facepalm-worthy, only not because I have done this in the past. Items in a talk page, like the one you uploaded to, need to assist in the development of the page (planting an image in the talk page does NOT count as assisting in the development of the page). Furthermore, Personal images DO NOT go on mainspace pages, talk or otherwise. Hope this clears a few things up. SteveHeist (talk) 14:58, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

You must have missed this guy correcting the anon.

"This is the discussion board for improvement of the article, NOT a forum. Take it up there please."
Smuff 19:58, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, as a wiki, we cannot account for every anon reading through the rules, but rather instead rely on registered users, such as you, me, CoaZ, or Sam, to correct the anons, as well as users whom are new.

Furthermore, we have this which prevents most users from out and out deleting discussions on talk pages, so those "thousands of examples" linger. SteveHeist (talk) 15:54, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

The graffiti, at the end of the day, doesn't really help much with the article in general. If it meant something, it could be helpful. But it's just graffiti, probably made simply for aesthetic effect. SteveHeist (talk) 17:01, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Argh... you just do not get it, do you? Alright, I'll explain why your graffiti cannot be helpful to ANY article with an example from another game.

This image is of CSGO's Mirage after a very recent update. On first glance, this image is little more than a winged AWP with some skulls where the scope should be. However, there is a meaning to this artwork. During a recent Major (tournament), a CSGO player by the name of coldzera gained a quad-feed through jumping shots, including a double kill via jumping noscope. So Valve implemented this in commemoration.

Would any of the graffiti that IS NOT the Al-Asad graffiti fit something like this? Do any of them have a story to them, or are they just random art thrown in for aesthetic appeal? Didn't think so.

On your whole thing where the system here needs reworked, I fail to see why. I see one, potentially two angered default members whom want to take their frustration out on sysops, admins, bureaucrats, custodians, or members because they did not get what they wanted. CS10 and CoaZ are both rather respected people around here, and got there not through whining, but through dedication to the upkeep of this site. So if you have a problem with them being in control of whether or not something is allowed on a page, there's the door. Don't let it hit you in the butt on the way out. Good day, and goodbye. SteveHeist (talk) 21:50, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Look, I cannot state that this wiki is the most democratic thing on the face of the planet, because it's not; it's an internet-based wiki where each and every person is allowed to put their can in the ring. Your's has been defeated, three or four times now.

In the case of my image, or even the Al-Asad image, there is something worth noting about the image. But most of the graffiti is just general "fluff" added to the game to fill in otherwise empty-looking space. Therefore, there is no reason to implement it. There is NO REASON FOR IT TO BE ON THE WIKI! It is not a rule, at least not in the traditional sense, however, it should be common sense. And hell, you want a rule? COD:NOTABILITY. Now that I have blown EVERY ARGUMENT out of the water for you, how about you READ SOMETHING, you ignorant little pain in my ass. The first thing on this talk page, in the fucking black box, at the bottom:

"The Call of Duty Wiki's policies and guidelines are some rules for you to follow, and will also help you make better contributions."

And before you go using the whole circular logic of COD:IAR, I'm going to ding you with this ahead of time.

Moral of the story? I've been around this block a time or two. Please, read what is being said to you. I don't want to have to tell you this again.SteveHeist (talk) 01:18, May 19, 2016 (UTC)

Adding onto Steve's comments about democracy, this wiki is not run democratically. Didikins (talk) 20:09, May 20, 2016 (UTC)

RE:Hello Edit

as long as its not personal questions. you can either have me get on chat whenever i get the chance to see if we can happen to be on there at the same time, or we can just talk on a wiki i edit on that doesnt have much traffic anymore, here. its likely that the latter will have to happen, because im not on all that often and i dont know if youll get to be on at the same time as me. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army RisingSun2020 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 20:30, May 18, 2016 (UTC)

Bad Image Edit

An image you recently uploaded was considered to violate the image policy as it was one or more of the following:
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  • Low quality
  • Contained a banned image effect
  • Concerned real life info, which is not generally allowed
  • Poorly named
  • Incorrect/lack of license
  • Duplicate file/superseded
  • Tampered with a photo-editing program

Please make sure you read the image policy to be sure of the protocols in place for uploading images.
You are still free to upload images; however, please make sure they are up to standards! Continued uploads that do not comply with the policy may result in a block.

Remember that EACH image needs to be correctly licensed and named. As you are just putting them on your page, They need PERSONAL_DEFCON_SHARK in them. Twig (Talk) wNJ2zkL.png 20:22, November 20, 2017 (UTC)
("Personal" doesn't need to be in full caps tho) Kilo 141 Beta menu icon MW Ultimate94ninja talk · contribs 20:29, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

Re:Talk Page messageEdit

Remember to sign with ~~~~ and to follow proper image naming and licensing. Yes, There is a tool for it, simply known as MultipleUpload. Twig (Talk) wNJ2zkL.png 21:59, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

RE:User pageEdit

I removed images from your page as they were renamed and no longer existed under those names, thus creating redlinks. As such they were removed from your user page. 22:07, March 6, 2018 (UTC)
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