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Community Newsletter


Wiki Community Newsletter for Saturday, March 1st

The newsletter will focus on changes to the wiki within the last month and a few notifications for users as well!

What happened last month?

  • Hyperborrean22 suggested we remove opinion blogs from the front page and allow anyone to create them, not just News Team members. After a very longwinded discussion between him and Sam, it was deemed the proposal was in bad faith. Forum:Opnion blogs (Opened 15:50, February 16, 2014; closed 17:39, February 20, 2014)
  • Kylet357 noticed that the wiki's official YouTube channel has been inactive and only lightly used, and suggested we put it to better use by asking for improvement ideas. Several good ideas were brought up, such as level walkthroughs and partnerships with existing YouTubers, but in the end it was decided that there exists too much competition for the channel to thrive and not enough user interest in putting effort into the videos. Forum:CoD Wiki YT Channel (Opened 02:15, December 1, 2013; closed 16:30, February 25, 2014)
  • Egon Eagle suggested a new section in mainspace articles for references to the CoD series in popular culture and cited a few examples. The forum received little attention, but after two weeks was closed with the unanimous dicision that those references should remain in the trivia section. Forum:Call of Duty in popular culture (Opened 16:07, February 13, 2014; closed 22:39, February 27, 2014)
  • Verantha was voted February's Featured User! She was previously Featured User in January of 2012. A warm congratulations and big thanks to her for her admirably consistent additions to mainspace articles.

What's happening this month?

  • Call of Duty Wiki:Articles for Deletion has several articles nominated, so please consider dropping by and providing some valuable feedback.
  • Call of Duty Wiki:Requested Improvement Drive Articles is an ongoing project to improve the articles that desperately need it. Argo and many other users put a lot of hard work into it and it would be greatly appreciated if you could help out!
  • Kat has suggested we change the skin of the wiki to something less dark, and has provided a mockup. Some other possible avenues of change have been brought up as well. Forum:Wiki skin revamp
  • Sam noticed a section at the bottom of some pages labeled "Must Watch Videos" that closely resembles the "Related Videos" feature we chose to disable some time ago. After the issue was raised, we all noticed that it only appears every so often. Forum:Must Watch Videos
  • Callofduty4 and Sam have together proposed that we do away with our leaked information policy on the grounds that: it severely limites our ability to post relevant information that would draw viewership; Activision has never asked any other large site to stop posting leaked info like we do, which is unfair and unwarranted; and since we have received no reply from Activision after repeated attempts to clear things up, it's about time we took things into our own hands. It has also been suggested by others that we contact Wikia staff for their take on the situation. Forum:Retiring COD:LEAK
  • AntiScootaTwo has suggested we either allow low-quality Ghosts images to be put into mainspace articles, or start a new image project to combat the amount of Ghosts weapon pages sorely in need of images. The main issue is the lack of editors that own the PC copy or a capture card. Forum:Ghosts Weapon images
  • Sam has lamented that the trivia sections of many articles have become long and filled with untrivial information, and some possible improvements are being discussed. Forum:Regarding trivia sections
  • Damac feels that the recent decline in the quality of news articles has led to decreased readership, and has asked for suggestions for improvement. Prominent ideas so far include more professionalism and a link to this forum. Forum:Quality of News
  • Kylet357 thought it might be necessary to have a new category for satire blogs, but after some reconsideration has changed his proposal to a "non-serious" category. Forum:Satire Category for Blogs

Other reminders

  • Be sure to keep an eye out for vandalism and speculation, especially now that information about the next Call of Duty is being revealed. Be kind and courteous to people who misunderstand things, and make sure to leave an edit summary when undoing an edit!
Comments? Questions?
Don't hesitate to leave a comment on this page and we'll do our best to see to it! Thanks for reading.
This month's newsletter was made by Joe Copp


Yeah, or at least it's supposed to be :P I can't always be active enough to do it, but when I am, I will. Joe Copp 00:33, March 2, 2014 (UTC)


Cheers, it's nice to be appreciated. :D A lot of fun getting all the models in the same "pose" so they all look somewhat professional. Amazing how much legacy content there is too... Thanks again Kylet, you lovely person, you. :P

22:56, March 14, 2014 (UTC)


Thanks a lot for the code Kylet! I'll try do something with it (pass it on or use it) over the weekend.  FANMADE_Animated_Derpy_Hooves_desktop_ponies_sprite.gif Sig1.png Sig2.png  08:34, March 19, 2014 (UTC)

File names

Hi. Looking over some of your recent removals, I believe they should stay. Firstly, the file names of weapons is quite an important fact, not something of trivial matter. And if a user got to said page because they were searching for a weapon by file name and got redirected, it flows a lot better by being placed in the main header. Secondly, citing "COD:NAME" doesn't really work for removing the information. Since the policy is for dictating the name of the article itself, not the names we put on the page itself.

Anyway, just thought I'd bring it up here, so we can talk about it here, as opposed to starting something in edit summaries or something.

03:43, March 21, 2014 (UTC)



Could you click on this link that is from Sam's page: Chat Family Tree

It comes up with a 404 for me, does this happen to you?

Thanks. Captain Emblem MW2.png Capt. Miller · talk 11:59, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

EDIT: Forget the message, he's already fixed it.


You know that RFA is April Fools right? -- awyman13 Talk Work 01:07, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

RE: Code

Thanks. I may give it a try. Joe Copp 21:40, April 7, 2014 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

i still remembered you saying on my easter blog that monday was your birthday. so, i wanted to be the first (on the cod wiki) to say that to you. RisingSun2013 (talk) 12:27, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Happy Birthday

Sup Kyle. Saw on RisingSun's blog that you said it was your birthday today. So Happy Birthday! Talk 15:14, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Hyvää syntymäpäivää (that's Finnish)

I made you a cake, but I got hungry and ate it. Sorry. But happy birthday regardless. -- laagone (talk)  16:06, April 21, 2014 (UTC)


I think it could be linked to your signature itself. As I've noticed when you use it it leaves behind a lot of code instead of as a template.

17:03, May 12, 2014 (UTC)


Happy Birthday!

Happy birthday Kyle! (For April 21st, sorry for being late) Captain Emblem MW2.png Capt. Miller · talk 16:33, June 1, 2014 (UTC)


And if you look at the MSBS and the normal PDW, "3 Round Burst" is yellow, too. So that doesn't prove anything, as both are burst fire weapons by default.

The difference is that a weapon having a different fire mode doesn't make it a weapon with an attachment, as the fire mode attachments in Ghosts have specific effects, unlike the other integrated "attachments" which are already part of the weapon instead of modifying it. -- 02:33, June 9, 2014 (UTC)

I already know that. There is no automatic fire attachment for the PDW (iw6_pdw_mp). The Gold PDW is a different weapon (iw6_pdwauto_mp). Anyone with the PC version of the game can easily check that, either by extracting the fast files or by looking through the game's memory with Cheat Engine. 03:18, June 9, 2014 (UTC)


Sorry, I didn't realise that we used the weapon stats from the website that anon stated. Thanks for reminding me. Captain Emblem MW2.png Capt. Miller · talk 07:55, July 2, 2014 (UTC)

спасибо (Thanks in Russian)

感謝 for that Kyle! You will become an admin someday, just keep it up! (You'll need a trillion editz though) Captain Emblem MW2.png Capt. Miller · talk 08:01, July 4, 2014 (UTC)

Your signature

Hi, your signature is substituted contains more characters that you signed it on my talk page (seen here). On your preferences, you should change it to {{SUBST:Nosubst|Signatures/Kylet357}} and it should replace the signature template after you sign it with four tildes, thank you. --Lt. Allen talk 18:54, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

Your Sig

Hey Kyle, I recall a while ago that you said your signature template wasn't working in vandalism/bad edit templates or something of the likewise. I looked over your signature, and noticed it was missing |{{PAGENAME}} in the category. I've added it, so I think it might work for you now. Talk 19:10, July 24, 2014 (UTC)

With luck, now it will work and you don't have to leave so much code behind! :D Talk 02:59, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Didn't look like it worked last time. I'm going to try one more time. Talk 17:17, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Testing. Zombie Rank 8 Icon BOII.png Kylet357 · talk Talk 17:25, July 25, 2014 (UTC)
Yep, looks like it works now. Talk 17:27, July 25, 2014 (UTC)


Here we go again I never said I get special treatment yes we are equal and like I said to miller stay out of something that has nothing to do with you please don't I have enough weight on my shoulders--Cod slayer134 (talk) 15:58, July 28, 2014 (UTC)(codslayer)

Just a tip

If there are multiple people vandalizing a page, you can go into the history of that page and edit an earlier change made before the vandalism to counteract both cases of vandalism at once., August 11, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Good to see ya

That's kewl. Just be careful lest Morgan Freeman turns you into gold. -- laagone (talk)  08:15, August 22, 2014 (UTC)


The best way to do it with GIMP is to use the lasso tool and draw around the image (generally with clicks, not actually holding it down and drawing around it). Once that's done you can copy the image and delete the background so all you have left is the image you cropped around and a transparent background. Also, its generally good to expand the canvas a bit so the image doesn't look to squashed once it's uploaded.

12:04, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

User:Smuff/Transparency Guide -- laagone (talk)  12:16, August 22, 2014 (UTC)


If you don't mind me asking, where do you get your images like the Skorpion EVO reload? -- laagone (talk)  14:22, August 22, 2014 (UTC)

I didn't even see the licensing, anyway just wanted to ask because of the lower quality settings than what I'm used to seeing on transparent images. I might also replace some of them with higher quality ones, JSYK. -- laagone (talk)  14:32, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
You use a PS3 right? -- laagone (talk)  14:51, August 22, 2014 (UTC)
PS3 uses a max resolution of 1280x720 whereas most images taken on a PC like mine are 1920x1080 (more is possible though if you have a monitor to support higher resolutions). 1080p is about two times higher quality. That and PC also has things like increased texture sizes and anti-aliasing available. -- laagone (talk)  15:21, August 22, 2014 (UTC)


Could you post on my talk apge, with nowik tags, what you currently have written in your "Custom Signature" section on your preferences page?

02:55, August 28, 2014 (UTC)

Try changing it to {{SUBST:Nosubst|Signatures/Kylet357}} and see what happens. 03:23, August 28, 2014 (UTC)


He left, simple as that. And I didn't want messages on my talk page saying that I suck dick, even as a metaphor. -- laagone (talk)  07:56, September 6, 2014 (UTC)

Almost 2000 Edits

8 more edits and youll have 2000. keep it up! youll be there in no time. RisingSun2013 00:23, September 7, 2014 (UTC)

At 2000 Edits

Congrats on obtaining 2000 edits Kyle! Keep up the good edits and blogs! Talk 19:19, September 7, 2014 (UTC)


Kudos on 2k edits Kyle. Capt. Miller 04:38, October 4, 2014 (UTC)

Over 2000 Edits

congatulations on getting over 2000 edits. sorry i didnt say something before, i forgot i was going to. RisingSun2013 01:38, October 5, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Your sig

I haven't actually thought about that. But still, to tell you the honest truth, I don't really like my signature anymore, and I have tried to change it to be what I want, but, being an amateur at coding, I just have been able to change it to my liking (I'm a perfectionist). Capt. Miller 01:39, October 19, 2014 (UTC)


tis the day of samhein/halloween/hallowe'en. let it be happy for thou. RisingSun2013 20:26, October 31, 2014 (UTC)


Hey, how come you aren't using your signature anymore? Talk 17:11, November 1, 2014 (UTC)


Likelihood is, your info is right, i used it earlier (in an online match) and the damage is just ridiculously low, so i just put low instead of a number, if you have a figure, go for it, i'd have no need to stop a correction, maybe i was just biased because it was such a shit gun...

Not sure, but have you tried using it yet?

Personal LazarouDave image.jpg LazarouDave  02:08, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

It's often because i died due to having to reload before they died...

Which is quite annoying, i can assure you, i hope it gets a buff soon, along with so many other weapons...

Personal LazarouDave image.jpg LazarouDave  09:32, November 6, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Help really needed

I looked at that forum, but I'm not very proficient in video editing, I can just barely use Windows Movie Maker to cut unnecessary parts (and WMM is like the video equivalent of MS Paint). I'd help in getting gameplay footage though, but I don't own AW at the moment and probably won't until it's on sale. -- laagone (talk)  18:46, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

RE:Speedy delete

I use the Gadget version, and for some reason it can be really buggy (only sometimes does it appear for me, I forget it's enabled). I'm not sure why it acts like this, and even Cod4 was stumped when I first told him some time back. Unfortunately best I can say is ignore it and delete comments the normal way until it works again.

19:13, November 14, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Custom sig

I'm not the most creative type when it comes to making signatures, but I came up with this, which I tried to make look Skyrim-ish. I can create that, or if you want it improved just tell me what to do. I tried getting the font used in Skyrim UI, but Windows doesn't support it in HTML it seems. -- laagone (talk)  00:20, November 17, 2014 (UTC)

Here's one with the links as requested. If you think the right side is a little empty I can throw an image up there or whatever. -- laagone (talk)  06:18, November 17, 2014 (UTC)
No problem. It's at Template:Signatures/DremYolLok, feel free to change it if you want. Also, if you're interested, I have a quick and easy way of using it via JavaScript, different to using Nosubst. And about the font, I could make an image out of the font and use that instead of actual text but that's slightly more limiting (and less awesome), not to mention a pain to edit. -- laagone (talk)  10:39, November 17, 2014 (UTC)
Alright. I inserted the code at your JS page, just refresh your cache (Ctrl+F5 should work), and you'll have a button on your edit bar you can press and it'll summon the signature and timestamp. It's the right-most one. Just poke at me if it doesn't work. -- laagone (talk)  17:35, November 17, 2014 (UTC)


Hey Kyle, thanks for the support you gave in my RFA! It really means a lot! Hopefully you can become an admin soon too! Talk 23:43, November 24, 2014 (UTC)

Weapon guide question

Its been a month since the forum for the weapon guides was created, and I was just wondering if you wanted me to start getting gameplay clips for it. If so, just leave me a message saying what weapon to use and I'll try my best to get good gameplay.  23:15, December 7, 2014 (UTC)


Maybe going though blogs may be hard, but the point of the pages is to give up to date information on the weapons. It looks far more tidy to have the up to date information in the respected sections, as opposed to writing it once for the vanilla game and then just lobbing on "as of patch X" at the end of the section for every update that comes out. 09:53, December 10, 2014 (UTC)

Merry X-mas!

Higaboi21talk 20:27, December 24, 2014 (UTC)

dude the patch is out for playstaion as well 

Hacking 4 Life (talk) 00:24, February 4, 2015 (UTC)


dude the patch is out for playstaion as well 

Hacking 4 Life (talk) 00:24, February 4, 2015 (UTC)

Damage profiles on AW weapons

Do excuse the delayed response. I've noticed that you've been adding in the D2 damage of weapons. I did do this at first, but U94N told me that per COD:DAMAGE, only the maximum and minimum damage values should be displayed for weapon damage. I assume this was also discussed in Black Ops 2, and all the weapon pages for Black Ops 2 weaponry state only the maximum and minimum damage values. This is because that all other non-BO2 and Advanced Warfare games have linear damage drop-offs. Hence why I undid your edit to the damage chart on multiple pages. Didikins (talk) 01:04, March 11, 2015 (UTC)


Kyle whyyyyyyyyy did you change your naaaaaaaaaame.
Also, i am surprised you did not catch seasickness nvm yer BP, that is even worse xD (sorry for late reply) --Cataphract_%28Civ5%29.png SlavByzantine_%28Civ5%29.pngTalkDromon_%28Civ5%29.png 18:37, March 17, 2015 (UTC)


Okay... Intel model BOII.pngRoachTheIntelCollector Talk

Here You might want to upload it and put it on. Intel model BOII.pngRoachTheIntelCollector Talk

Happy B-Day

Conglaturations! Everybody is super impressed and everyone is watching! Especially those who don't, have fun and have a great day.

Katia wishes it.
132527029757.gifArgorrath おしゃべり%E7%95%B0%E8%AD%B0%E3%81%82%E3%82%8A.jpg20:18, April 21, 2015 (UTC)

Happy Late B-Day

Hey Kyle, happy late birthday! Sorry I'm late to the party. Talk 06:04, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Happy birthday Kyle! Sorry for being late as well. Capt. MillerTalk 06:06, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
dang it, i was late too. happy birthday anyhow, kylet. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army.svg RisingSun2021 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg.png (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 20:41, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

RE:Damage values

In the case of the MK14 in Advanced Warfare, it lacks variants that impact the damage profile. So it's more accurate to list it simply as 34-33, as it will always deal either 34 or 33 damage without multipliers or wall penetration being a factor. The fact that none of its variants change the damage profile, and that two of the damage values are the same, prompted me to make the switch. Didikins (talk) 02:07, May 9, 2015 (UTC)

Could I get your response to this? Didikins (talk) 04:14, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Chat Lagging

Actually...i can control it by not letting my tablet screen turn off - no idea why it causes me to leave and join, i try not to let it happen, but yesterday i was in a 4 hour strong game on Infection, so i was concentrating on not dying - which was a mistake on my part. Point is, that is why i don't join the hat on my tablet when at home too often - it should be fine when i get my monitors in a few days - when i join on PC i get no issues. Personal LazarouDave image.jpg LazarouDave  11:13, June 6, 2015 (UTC)


m888888888888 Imrlybord7 (talk) 18:02, June 17, 2015 (UTC)


It's not confirmed until Activision actually announce that it's going to be the DLC weapon. Raven's wing Talk16:58, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

That is proof that it is a possible DLC gun, not the next DLC gun. You have no evidence that the files tagged with that name are going to be used, and all the name itself means is that it was the fourth DLC gun created. Raven's wing Talk22:44, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Stat images

If you see any BO sat bar images, feel free to just remove them. They're made redundant by our infobox anyway, and I think most were just uploaded before the release of the game.

09:13, July 21, 2015 (UTC)

Blog comments

Just a casual reminder that even though the anon in the recent blog comments wasn't being very kind and small insults would be morally justifiable, telling another user to fuck off in a hostile tone is still a violation of UTP. -- laagone (talk)  11:51, July 27, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Alternate Facebook Page

I haven't updated the page in a few years, but whats up? MetlTalk 20:21, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I don't think I control the page or am its admin anymore. IIRC, me and CoaZ abandoned the page after we were told several years back that there was already an official facebook page and they only wanted one so there would be no confusion. I thought CoaZ had deleted it, I vaguely remember terminating my adminship for the page. Maybe he knows whats going on, I didn't know anyone had started updating the page since my last posts back around Black Ops II's release. I apologize, I'm not sure how to help. MetlTalk 20:57, August 6, 2015 (UTC)
I decided to look through some of the Talk Page archives to jog my memory. Not long after I was made admin by CoaZ, Callofduty4 told us to shut the page down. I shut it down, but CoaZ told me to reopen it as the official page had not been updated in a few months. I posted a few news and general posts until the end of 2012 when I gave up on it or was further told to stop. CoaZ may stil run the page, or he may have just rediscovered the page's existence and posted a few things to it because the official facebook is once again inactive. So yeah, it might be a good idea to talk to him about it, he could still be in control of it, especially since he created it. MetlTalk 21:14, August 6, 2015 (UTC)

Blog patrol page deletions

Seeing as the AfD page where it was discussed is now archived, just wanted to confirm that while blog patrollers (and I believe custodians as well?) can delete pages from the mainspace, this wasn't deliberate and should not be done - as I recall - under any circumstances, as if the ability didn't exist. If you see a page created out of vandalism, just tag it to speedy deletion or notify an admin. -- laagone (talk)  04:59, August 13, 2015 (UTC)

FB Page

If you want admin rights, yeah, you probably should. Conqueror of all Zombies (talk) 18:39, August 15, 2015 (UTC)

Re:, November 3, 2015 (UTC)

MX Garand

That's what I meant by it, yes. I've seen people post on reddit that it can't be reloaded mid-magazine on PS4 and XB1 anymore, but apparently PC hasn't got that fix(?) yet. I *could* be wrong, but this is as much as I've gathered. -- laagone (talk)  07:41, February 11, 2016 (UTC)

"It's a glitch that doesn't even affect gameplay. i don't know why this bothers you so much."

well... it's not exactly a glitch, it's a programming bug to be honest, but no idea why it bothers me, maybe it's because i don't like seeing the same scope overlay or... it's because i don't completely like it. i would reply earlier that question, but i was not thinking to do it. Fotis.salonikios1 (talk) 11:03, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Happy Early Birthday

hi drem, i thought id wish you a happy birthday early, since i wont be on when it actually is your birthday. War flag of the Imperial Japanese Army.svg RisingSun2021 Personal RisingSun2013 2000px-Flag of JSDF.svg.png (RisingSun's Talk Page Blog Posts Contributions) 23:57, April 20, 2016 (UTC)

Name sounds familiar...

I think I know you... aren't you the one from ElderScrolls Wikia? I think I have heard your name before... ah, well, nice to meet another Dovahkiin :)

Anywho, just thought your name sound familiar, and just stop to say hi :)



ArgonianLover (talk) 15:40, May 8, 2016 (UTC)ArgonianLover

My Honey Badger Comparison

Okay, could you please tell me what was wrong with my Honey Badger-ARX-160 comparison? It was no different than the ones on many other weapons from Ghosts and MW3. "Not enough similar attributes"? Really? These weapons share quite a few sililar attributes. Iron Sights, ROF, Reload Speed, Damage, Damage Multipliers, and that's about it. Even if that's not enough attributes, some of the pages with similar comparisons, such as the Remington R5, Ak-12, and Scar-L have EVEN LESS attributes, and they still have a comparison. You taka a look at my comparison, and give me a reason(please) why it's not good enough, or "not needed"

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 14:34, May 10, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112

Oh, okay. I get what you are saying now, and Multipliers and ROF is not good enough for a comparison, now that you mention it. I'm assuming that you are saying that I need to compare weapons that have more similar attributes(example, the Type 95/M16 from MW3). I'm sorry about this incident, I'll look into better weapons to compare. Have a good day.

Deathstrike2112 (talk) 18:19, May 10, 2016 (UTC)Deathstrike2112


You're a day early. Now wait 1 year and try again.

18:55, May 12, 2016 (UTC)

In Depth Guide Videos

You reverted my edits in regards to the video on the basis of "as it defeats the purpose of the article."

I disagreed due to some reasons,

1. Some readers may not be bothered reading so much, i.e its faster and easier to translate the article's content through a short video which compiles all the information, so it actually assists enhance an article, rather than detract from it. i,e the Video provides a quick and short summary guide of the article, whilst the article provides intricate details, such as statistics.

2. I check the Call of Duty Wikia policy again in regards to this decision, and it does not appear to be violating any aforementioned policy.

3. I have been doing this to enhance articles for some time, and the other editors seem to be fine with it and we never have had any issues, you are the first person who actually came up with a complaint, which I find surprising.

If you have any other disagreements, go ahead and talk about it here. Ill be reverting things back in the meantime.

Prestige 8 multiplayer icon BOII.png NotLessOrEqual Prestige 8 multiplayer icon BOII.png


Hello. I wanted to apologize for my behavior on Discord a week ago. I should have stopped the moment you said to change the topic. I am hoping you could give me a second chance on Discord and lift the ban. Emen383 (talk) 00:19, January 28, 2020 (UTC)

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